Consumer apple stuff is overpriced, but (while still pricey) the pro stuff is brutal. People will tell you an equivalent windows machine costs £x but the actual windows machine you'd need to do the same job would be from disguise and cost 3x the mac pro
nah, they'll remove it on the next 2 versions, then re-introduce it on the 3rd next version and make it a huge marketing element how super brilliant and practical the design is, with an added 200$ for the groundbreaking, new design. I mean.. have you seen how they (or beats, their daughter company) are advertising USB-C cables now? like its a big, new innovation, its ridiculous!
Protip, Apple intentionally created an ecosystem to trap you, its hard to get out of by design, everything is easy if you just buy more and new apple stuff, if you want to change to something different its hard...again by design, I suggest you put in the effort and get out sooner rather then later because it will only get harder.
Shortest of those cables (that I've seen) is 3' which is usually plenty long enough to reach the floor with some slack if there isn't a table or counter or chair nearby.
introducing the iTable? Space to wirelessly charge your phone and Applewatch. Featuring a Convex slope to ensure that you won't be able to use the table for anything else.
Samsung isn't much better. When I bought the Note 20 five years ago, it no longer had a 3.5mm audio jack, so I bought an adapter for the charger port to use my plug-in earbuds. If they ever go to full wireless charging, I'm going to revive my Note 20.
I enjoy Apple devices, mostly because of familiarity. My first phone was an iPhone, and so it kinda stuck like that. I know the UI, I know how to navigate and troubleshoot, etc.
That being said, my past two phones have been the SE series, and the next time I have to upgrade, it’ll be the next generation of SE phones. If you don’t know, the SE is the budget model.
You can reskin android with an iOS app from the app store and then you could get a more consumer friendly device from a less shitty company potentially for a better price. Not trying to be an ass but if you wanna distance yourself from apple for their behavior, this is a great option.
Not a fake either: the $299 USD stands so your Mac Pro collects less dust, and the $699 wheels that are literally inferior to $20 USD products from your hardware store of choice (because the hardware store version has breaks lol).
To be fair, many put these on desk mounts but not including it is insane. Keep the arm for storage or resell, both things Apple wants to hinder. "Upgrades on a Mac are super simple. When it's time to upgrade, just pick it up, throw it away, and go buy another one. It's that simple" -drunkgamers
What?! No! If course not! Not at all! They never said anything to suggest that creating a failure-prone product was an intentional ploy to generate revenue! Never in front of a live mic, anyway.
Since the iPod, Apple's marketing has really appealed to normies that their products are premium, like jewelry, a status symbol. Can you get something better for a cheaper price? Yes, but you don't get bragging rights.
You're talking to the wrong people. These things are for the ultra rich who have unlimited disposable income where the only thing that they can brag to each other about is how many prestige items they have.
While I agree, that watch has really helped me focus on, and improve, my health. And I love the nav buzzing me when my podcast focused brain is about to miss my turn.
If you can afford it and you like it. It's a good product for you. I shit on Apple, but i have also owned and used their stuff. I get the appeal and well understand the upsides. I like the design and branding in a couple of ways. I just don't buy their stuff right now because i can get much cheaper options that much better serve my needs and last longer.
many moons ago, a US Sen said he thought lower taxes for US citizens would mean more money in their pockets. & he trusted that it'd be better spent from their hands than if the US Government used it. this was during the time a blanket w/arm holes was the rage, while public schooling was being shorted. there has to be a connection. then & now.
The trick is that their products are generally designed to make you buy the whole ecosystem koolaid by intentionally working badly with anything not in the ecosystem but working really well with other Apple products. End result is lots of people swearing that Apple products "just work" while everything else is a pain to work with.
At this point that's basically just avoid all technology. Like how cell phones got rid of their headphone jack ports to force people to buy expensive Bluetooth headphones
Like an automatic mechanical watch from Seiko, which is about 200$, runs precisely enough to be only a few minutes off per month and needs norhing but the movement of my arm to rewind the spring. Also I like the real tick-tack sound of an actual watch.
I bought a timex solar Explorer around 4 years ago and only just now do I need to change the battery for it ( at a cost of about $90) it cost about 180 to begin with, bot AMAZING but so very very far from terrible
Instead of shitting on the person who bought an overpriced product, maybe we should go after the company pricing their products in such an outrageous way.
Your response is a nice boilerplate of fundamental misunderstanding, where you'd rather mock than sympathize and band together with your fellow man to stop this price gouging. The person who spent the money is not going to care what you think. They'll have that money again. But they will care that you mocked them and turn their back on you, as you just did. And the company will just do it again because they know they can get away with it.
You and the people who agree with you just can't help tearing others down to make yourselves feel good.
"Haha, iFag". "Haha found on road dead" "haha, you're poor" "haha gm sucks" "haha I'm too smart, too moral, too virtuous to do that dumb thing" "haha PC luser" "Haha mac luser".
Making the world worse by belittling others shouldn't have been in any ones to-do list.
Neither are Blameless!?!? Wtf you talking about. Just buy shit you want and don’t bother about others. We’re not talking about individuals spending $100M on yachts here.
Going after people who buy overpriced products is essentially crabs-in-a-bucket thinking. They may not think it's a lot of money, but you do. Tearing them down based on your sentiments may feel good, but it doesn't win you any favours. The people you want to save end up tuning you out. Louis Rossmann goes in depth on this on his YouTube channel.
Telling people not to buy overpriced products is not tearing them down, and if you think it is then you really have no concept of the world around you.
If there's a Hot surface, you tell people not to touch it or they'll get burned. Just because there is someone else holding the blowtorch making it hot doesn't mean you only focus on that person. You still tell people not to touch.
If that is crab bucket mentality, then you go ahead and keep watching people burn themselves.
No it's not at all crabsinabucket, we aren't stopping you from getting out of the bucket, we are telling you to do it. Apple is a scummy soulless corpo that doesn't care about anything except draining everyone of money.The EU is trying hard to curb their scummy practices and they keep trying to weasel out of regulations.If you support this level of scumminess then you deserve to be mocked. And we are doing both, we are allowed to do both. Don't like it? Tough luck.
And neither I nor the person who bought the item will care because instead of banding together to fight the companies, you'd rather get that undeserved dopamine hit by mocking. They also won't care because they can make that money again, but they will turn their back on you, as you just did to them.
So no, I don't support the scumminess, and now I don't care if you get gouged, because you and the people who agree with you made the world a bit worse.
ReleaseTheBeeees
Consumer apple stuff is overpriced, but (while still pricey) the pro stuff is brutal. People will tell you an equivalent windows machine costs £x but the actual windows machine you'd need to do the same job would be from disguise and cost 3x the mac pro
Nalianna
Australian power socket.. upside down?
RPCharImages
I dont get it.... I also dont own any apple tech, so that may be why
KAPTKipper
Apple will take it out, sell the PRO watch strap with the hole as an accessory.
GuyFromDeathValley
nah, they'll remove it on the next 2 versions, then re-introduce it on the 3rd next version and make it a huge marketing element how super brilliant and practical the design is, with an added 200$ for the groundbreaking, new design.
I mean.. have you seen how they (or beats, their daughter company) are advertising USB-C cables now? like its a big, new innovation, its ridiculous!
lueven118
They already have removed the hole in the strap, the new ones are called a loop and they’re just one continuous piece.
moonweasel
Why is the power point upside down?
MrSatisify
Apple sucks
ongabonga
https://media3.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPWE1NzM3M2U1bWNleWxqbG90ZWl3OWtlbDR1bmJ3NXZqeHAxYXNibXZqaDI0MDBzZyZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/SgwPtMD47PV04/200w.webp
awesomeoldguy
Quick to the front page!!! Let everyone know!!
ketchapOnHotdogs
Or they will claim it as a new feature.
ZeroclockGaming
Protip, Apple intentionally created an ecosystem to trap you, its hard to get out of by design, everything is easy if you just buy more and new apple stuff, if you want to change to something different its hard...again by design, I suggest you put in the effort and get out sooner rather then later because it will only get harder.
frozenorbit
Not sure what he "fix" is here..
theshinobi23
Why does the watch need to hang up while charging? Can it not just sit on a table or something while it's plugged up?
RestlessVagabond
There may not be a table nearby.
JustANerdInTheWorld
It can. But that wouldn’t create pointless Imgur Apple ragebait.
yaddiex3
I would feel the need to balance the watch atop the charger. But, that's just me.
Detoc
Who are we to demand justification for the needs of the watch?
Xenarion
I'm guessing the cable is too short and it would dangle, which breaks the cable faster than that.
theshinobi23
Shortest of those cables (that I've seen) is 3' which is usually plenty long enough to reach the floor with some slack if there isn't a table or counter or chair nearby.
integral338
Apple does not sell a table.
W15hvern
introducing the iTable? Space to wirelessly charge your phone and Applewatch. Featuring a Convex slope to ensure that you won't be able to use the table for anything else.
lovehandlesmessiah
The iRail which installs on the edge of the table to keep things from falling off is a $90 add-on.
mmontour
artsales
Watt?
wabitgirl
Ooooh, what an electrifying idea! I'm shocked no one has thought of it, especially in the current times.
nurmich
I thought paying stupid prices for accessories (that probably should be baseline) is all part of the Apple experience that the fandom really enjoys?
OuchYoureonmyhair
Samsung isn't much better. When I bought the Note 20 five years ago, it no longer had a 3.5mm audio jack, so I bought an adapter for the charger port to use my plug-in earbuds. If they ever go to full wireless charging, I'm going to revive my Note 20.
BenYourFriend
I enjoy Apple devices, mostly because of familiarity. My first phone was an iPhone, and so it kinda stuck like that. I know the UI, I know how to navigate and troubleshoot, etc.
That being said, my past two phones have been the SE series, and the next time I have to upgrade, it’ll be the next generation of SE phones. If you don’t know, the SE is the budget model.
destroyer1125470
You can reskin android with an iOS app from the app store and then you could get a more consumer friendly device from a less shitty company potentially for a better price. Not trying to be an ass but if you wanna distance yourself from apple for their behavior, this is a great option.
LetsEatGrandpaCommasSaveLives
Makes me miss my android
TwiH
generic apple fandom comment in 2025, daring 🙌
GuyFromDeathValley
well, not our fault that apple seems not to really improve on that front, is it?
TwiH
look mam i wrote it again in 2025
donorkort
Does that say '$1000 stand' in the image description?
PocketCleric
it sure does.......
ParaspriteHugger
Hell if I know.
Pieccentric
Not a fake either: the $299 USD stands so your Mac Pro collects less dust, and the $699 wheels that are literally inferior to $20 USD products from your hardware store of choice (because the hardware store version has breaks lol).
Aurentis
Brakes*
Pieccentric
True. I blame german autocorrect, though. It learned "breaks" by now but it was my first time talking about brakes in English.
Tiammut
Yep. Massive controversy because the monitor it was specifically made for was $5k. You required the stand if you wanted the monitor.
Toqom
To be fair, many put these on desk mounts but not including it is insane. Keep the arm for storage or resell, both things Apple wants to hinder. "Upgrades on a Mac are super simple. When it's time to upgrade, just pick it up, throw it away, and go buy another one. It's that simple" -drunkgamers
Minoes
If I remember correctly, if you wanted to use a VESA mount you still had to buy an adaptor or somthing for that monitor
Xenarion
Yup. Its only gimmick is that it's magnetic, so you can easily remove the screen for... whatever, I don't know.
Aurentis
I'm sure that won't lead to accidentally dislodging the screen and causing it to crack or shatter and have to be replaced, definitely not.
shorey66
So part of the design.
Aurentis
What?! No! If course not! Not at all! They never said anything to suggest that creating a failure-prone product was an intentional ploy to generate revenue! Never in front of a live mic, anyway.
TiredBanana
I know it's a wild concept, but just hear me out. What if... what. IF. Just you know. What if. i know this is hard to imagine, but stay with me here.
Just don't buy shit overpriced products thhwt are designed to milk you for More money. https://media2.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPWE1NzM3M2U1dGV0dWZ4NDhra3BkazMycWx0bnJoNWpsbmEwYms4OGE3N3hkZTZueCZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/NbgeJftsErO5q/200w.webp
permissiontolosedenied
https://media3.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPWE1NzM3M2U1ZmxsNjYyOWY4YTFqZ3BkaDg4bTduaGEyYTRyYnV4ZWkyam4zMGY4dSZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/VzkTZ1DFYeBY5ZId6j/200w.webp
imtiredboss
Since the iPod, Apple's marketing has really appealed to normies that their products are premium, like jewelry, a status symbol. Can you get something better for a cheaper price? Yes, but you don't get bragging rights.
kurvarVillain
You won't find an Apple logo on such a thing. Ah, capitalism
RollToSaveAgainst
Yeah but, how will people know I'm better than them if I don't?
Jagernott
You're talking to the wrong people. These things are for the ultra rich who have unlimited disposable income where the only thing that they can brag to each other about is how many prestige items they have.
innerwrathchild
While I agree, that watch has really helped me focus on, and improve, my health. And I love the nav buzzing me when my podcast focused brain is about to miss my turn.
TiredBanana
If you can afford it and you like it. It's a good product for you. I shit on Apple, but i have also owned and used their stuff. I get the appeal and well understand the upsides. I like the design and branding in a couple of ways. I just don't buy their stuff right now because i can get much cheaper options that much better serve my needs and last longer.
GitchyGitchyOohLaLa
many moons ago, a US Sen said he thought lower taxes for US citizens would mean more money in their pockets. & he trusted that it'd be better spent from their hands than if the US Government used it. this was during the time a blanket w/arm holes was the rage, while public schooling was being shorted. there has to be a connection. then & now.
MaleProstateMilker88
People worked to death in countries like Congo would appreciate it if people would stopping buying new tech constantly.
n3rdsquared
that apple monitor stand with monitor sold separately is probably satire but I wouldnt be surprised if it was legit.
G0MeatCube
But if we don't buy those dumb shit over priced products my friends and family will make fun of me.
DocNitro
The products are not always shabby. The main issue is fully buying the ecosystem koolaid at full price.
Colopty
The trick is that their products are generally designed to make you buy the whole ecosystem koolaid by intentionally working badly with anything not in the ecosystem but working really well with other Apple products. End result is lots of people swearing that Apple products "just work" while everything else is a pain to work with.
Poppypoppoppop
But it's so... Apple!
Amomani
Especially ones that are going to tell the government your autistic.
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Amomani
You're autistic.
JT1984
At this point that's basically just avoid all technology. Like how cell phones got rid of their headphone jack ports to force people to buy expensive Bluetooth headphones
Lexgeddon
Mine cost $12. I got them at the grocery store.
threeverse
Like an automatic mechanical watch from Seiko, which is about 200$, runs precisely enough to be only a few minutes off per month and needs norhing but the movement of my arm to rewind the spring. Also I like the real tick-tack sound of an actual watch.
Blimjoe
I bought a timex solar Explorer around 4 years ago and only just now do I need to change the battery for it ( at a cost of about $90) it cost about 180 to begin with, bot AMAZING but so very very far from terrible
Muffyns
But how will i an an average millionaire ever prove to my millionaire friends that i actually do have disposable income
Muffyns
I forgot the /s
imtiredboss
A Rolex.
ballsoutflyer
Instead of shitting on the person who bought an overpriced product, maybe we should go after the company pricing their products in such an outrageous way.
thirdlittilbird
Isnt that essentially the same thing?
ballsoutflyer
No.
TiredBanana
Are you an idiot?
ballsoutflyer
We're all idiots, but not in this case.
Your response is a nice boilerplate of fundamental misunderstanding, where you'd rather mock than sympathize and band together with your fellow man to stop this price gouging. The person who spent the money is not going to care what you think. They'll have that money again. But they will care that you mocked them and turn their back on you, as you just did. And the company will just do it again because they know they can get away with it.
TiredBanana
You could have just said yes...
ballsoutflyer
You and the people who agree with you just can't help tearing others down to make yourselves feel good.
"Haha, iFag". "Haha found on road dead" "haha, you're poor" "haha gm sucks" "haha I'm too smart, too moral, too virtuous to do that dumb thing" "haha PC luser" "Haha mac luser".
Making the world worse by belittling others shouldn't have been in any ones to-do list.
NinjablazerZero
You are allowed to go after both. Both are a problem. Sure one more so than the other, but one is not entirely blameless.
LabsAreGoobers
Neither are Blameless!?!? Wtf you talking about. Just buy shit you want and don’t bother about others. We’re not talking about individuals spending $100M on yachts here.
ballsoutflyer
Going after people who buy overpriced products is essentially crabs-in-a-bucket thinking. They may not think it's a lot of money, but you do. Tearing them down based on your sentiments may feel good, but it doesn't win you any favours. The people you want to save end up tuning you out. Louis Rossmann goes in depth on this on his YouTube channel.
NinjablazerZero
Telling people not to buy overpriced products is not tearing them down, and if you think it is then you really have no concept of the world around you.
If there's a Hot surface, you tell people not to touch it or they'll get burned. Just because there is someone else holding the blowtorch making it hot doesn't mean you only focus on that person. You still tell people not to touch.
If that is crab bucket mentality, then you go ahead and keep watching people burn themselves.
ballsoutflyer
You're one of the people laughing at others, tearing them down and generally making the world a worse place.
Instead of being a crab, be a helper.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RcVI-OziU28&t=106
Shovi
No it's not at all crabsinabucket, we aren't stopping you from getting out of the bucket, we are telling you to do it. Apple is a scummy soulless corpo that doesn't care about anything except draining everyone of money.The EU is trying hard to curb their scummy practices and they keep trying to weasel out of regulations.If you support this level of scumminess then you deserve to be mocked. And we are doing both, we are allowed to do both. Don't like it? Tough luck.
ballsoutflyer
And neither I nor the person who bought the item will care because instead of banding together to fight the companies, you'd rather get that undeserved dopamine hit by mocking. They also won't care because they can make that money again, but they will turn their back on you, as you just did to them.
So no, I don't support the scumminess, and now I don't care if you get gouged, because you and the people who agree with you made the world a bit worse.
Go EU and screw you.