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Funkman418
voters pick insanity over our future
VindictiveBathToaster
The next 4+ years are going to be a dumpster fire.
SpanishLisp
I've been trying to keep from vomiting since 5 or so this morning. I genuinely can't believe the level of self involvement and stupid shortsightedness Americans have shown. Do these morons seriously think Trump is going to lower prices?! Do they still not know how capitalism works?! What's worse, Trump is now without the people who kept him in check last time, often at great personal expense, and on top of that he has immunity from prosecution. Well done, America. Great job. 💔🤮
StarmineRendezvous
Unfortunately nowhere is safe now. The dangerous balance in the world was just handed to the worst side of it. The world is fucked.
pibyte
We are not all fucked!
If you are a rich white guy - you gonna be doing great!
p7zjnq9gei9000
“I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo.
"So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us.”
― J.R.R. Tolkien, The Fellowship of the Ring
dumbledong69
I don’t know what to do, done with living here and I’m afraid my state will flip red but I don’t have the resources to move my wife and kid to another country.
damnitall365
It’s crazy cause republicans have control over the senate and house. I don’t foresee this as going very well.
Helpfullifetips
They did in 2016 too, literally the only thing of consequence they did was lower taxes on the wealthy
RelartOfGivia
I have dual citizenship in Europe. But I'm worried about an emboldened Russia and a weakened NATO.
MapleSyrupMafia
As an outsider, what's bothering me the most is seeing the right with zero empathy laughing at the concerns of people... He openly talked about a lot of bad shit and he's surrounding himself with yes men... You didn't "own the libs", you've fucked your own country. Tariffs will hurt the average American because they're the one paying that fucking tax... and as Jon Stewart said, his deportation bs won't be a fine tooth comb... Anyway, we'll see what his first fuckery will be...
Allrighty
Yup, people will literally die over this and here they are, gloating over it. Not even pretending it was for the "economy" or whatever. "Evil" hardly seems to cover it.
777mermaid777
They were shooting beer cans with a trans person on it before this election.
People glorified it.
Now this is happening.
MissChickle
Yeah the response from conservatives winning is always insane to me. They seem gleeful - like weird little goblins - to see liberals upset . When Democrats have won in the past, my thoughts are relief followed by wanting ALL Americans to benefit from sound policy, not just "my side."
veronicablood
Hope you enjoyed voting for the last time.
KiruNYC
Check back in 4 years to remind yourself how wrong you were.
veronicablood
I'll check back in three months to see the Mass Deportation Camps that have been promised.
chaosundivided
UpwardFacingKnight
SwampApe75
DrKonrad
I am not an American citizen and I also want to vomit
IOftenDeleteCommentsCauseISuckAtTyping
Yeah. I appreciate you all, but I'm deleting this app for a while. This rapid-fire reminder of how fucked we are is compounding my rage.
InconspicuousLampshade
"Bad times friend ahead. Maybe no computer. Maybe no home. I will go away but we are two of soul. I will return."
Winman9000
Now that the election is basically over, I now vote for solar flare 2025
IndigoThursday
I'm hoping that in 4 years time everyone will realise their mistake and have learned from it
Lampmonster
Global plague is becoming a viable option with brain worm looking to take control of our healtcare system.
NotTheDevilYouKnow
Supposedly the gulf stream is set to collapse in 2025
Racealistic
You can blow up America for all i care leave the rest of us out of it :D
TetraNordeh
America isn't the only country that's supported fascism in recent years.
Akistos
there should have been a penalty for not voting- or maybe a tax credit to reduce your tax burden if you *did* vote.
Now, unfortunately, there won't be any more votes.
3dartwork
I'm a bit scared shitless for the first time ever in my life just because I think this is going to be way worse than 2016.
But I'm also disappointed in Democratic for how their candidate was handled. I don't like how Harris suddenly got to vault her way to presidential candidacy at the VERY last minute (August?) which gave little time to really know her like a typical running candidate.
llabar1
STOP THIS. A majority of voters chose fascism. This is not about Harris or handling or any of that other whiny crap. This is about a majority being evil. Stop blaming those who actually did something to stop this, however ineffectual. Recognize that we are up against an enemy that is about to strangle humanity. TIme to fight or flee. Choose. We have 2 months and then that's it.
3dartwork
I have never supported having a candidate suddenly "show up" last minute that forced me into making a decision between someone I barely have heard of and an evil tyrant. I don't want to just cast my vote against him and pick a candidate I want. There is no "stop this". It's never happened before. Candidates don't just back out 3 months before election so their VP can be forced to be a candidate. I chose neither her nor him.
tzahtman
I knew there was a chance but it boggles my mind that he won every single swing state.
hnngh
ChromePlatedEquator
I can't take 4 more years of this shit. The daily outrages, the corruption, the dismantling of our government...I don't think I can take it TBH.
WalkersNonsuchToffees
It will be a lot more than four years.
Clara93
Yup. If they get their way, they’ll make sure this was the last free election
RetiredLaserMan
I'm 64 and was planning on retiring next March. Not sure what will happen now... I can't even imagine what the future holds. I'm not as worried about the next 4 years as I am about the next 40, the next cheeto in chief can really fuck things up for a long time going forward. Imagine a supreme court that is 100% conservative - pretty likely all things considered. We're definitely fucked.
jonlykkeDK
So, realistically (in no specific order):
- The climate is fucked.
- Ukraine is fucked.
- Palestine is fucked.
- Women are fucked (some twice).
- Minorites are fucked.
- NATO is fucked.
- The poor, the lower middle class and the middle class are fucked.
By the grace of the almighty, the Top 1% and the Nazis are doing OK though, otherwise this would be a shit show.
jette37
Nazis aren't doing okay. They're just so full of hate they'd cut off their nose just to spite their face. I think that's what a lot of this is about. "I know he's bad for me, but he'll be even worse for the people I hate."
Except the rich nazis, obviously; but that's a function of their being rich, not their being nazis.
psmith00
that's what the MAGATS didn't, and won't until it hits them hard, understand. What Trump has promised to do will destroy the America they think they were preserving and they will not get any special treatment just for being Trump supporters.
2dollars15cents
My wife is trans. I am terrified right now.
777mermaid777
They were shooting beer cans with a trans person on it before this election.
Obsessing over children's genitals and allowing them to be targeted for abuse has become normalized.
People refused to boycott a game, simply to stand in solidarity against a billionaire who is funneling money into hate groups to revoke our human rights.
Bigcurly2000
You can apply this sentiment to the whole world. Because, and this may be catastrophising a bit but fuck it, this win has put a nail in the coffin of the future of our entire species. Goodbye environmental protections, goodbye any chance of world stability.
AeonQuasars
This is even making me go into depression. There are so many despicable morons in your country. At least it's visably obvious we can't rely on US anymore.
Freak0zoid
Yup. As a non-USAsian, I'm getting migraine and depression at the same time. Awesome
psmith00
this isn't a time for depression. this is a time for extreme self preservation. you and whomever you can trust are going to have to work together, covertly, waving the Trump flag so you don't become a target and play the long game. he's the oldest president ever elected and the job, especially as he's laid it out, is going to take its toll. you have to outlast him and his successor and win back control when the MAGATS realize they've screwed themselves with this play.
AeonQuasars
He's gonna make SCOTUS republican majority for 30-40 years.
michiyl
Only if they live that long ...
AeonQuasars
3 scotus member are going to retire soon and he will pick them with 25-30 y old.
bvbowalrus
Never been more embarrassed or ashamed to be a part of this country. 🤦♀️🤦♀️🤮
MissChickle
Only thing that makes me feel slightly better is I live in a blue state (and yes I still voted), but even here there are dumbasses voting against common sense.
MostlyAngryButNiceAboutIt
So many family and neighbors loudly celebrating. I want to wake up. I honestly think I might be in shock. So far he's even ahead in the popular vote by 6M. Over 70M people thought that douchebag would be a better choice to hold the highest office. I'm so distraught and in denial.
MissChickle
I'm right there with you. I think the most painful part is the pandemic taught me how selfish and stupid people are, but this has cemented how racists and sexist they are - when not just completely oblivious and/or apathetic. We gotta take things one day at a time, and try and act with courage for what's to come. Focus on your physical and mental health first.
MostlyAngryButNiceAboutIt
<3<3<3 Thank you, friend. If it's any consolation I feel like the biggest reason the "middle voters" were swayed was because of high grocery prices. I believe that voters all over the world punished the incumbents because of inflation. The nuances, unfortunately, meant nothing.
djevelen
Right there with you, but the fear and rage i am feeling for my female, trans, and gay friends who dont? I am more scared for what might happen to them than what could happen to me.
ExecutiveProducerWolfDyck
On an entirely unrelated note, it's still pretty easy to buy a gun in this country.
ispentwaytoolongthinkingaboutthis
Ya but for a country that has so many guns you guys are not the best shot…maybe you will be now. Good luck.
SofaH3ro
BlueDsc
In the one hand, I feel like having one would be handy since I love in an area where I am legitimately fearful for my life. In the other hand, my mental state has been spiraling so much these last few months, I think having one would also be a horrible idea.
YouNoDaTheRulesandSoDoI
89% of firearm deaths is the US are self inflicted. Good call not having a gun until you are mentally ready.
johnvictor
It's not just owning it, you need to become familiar with it. Go the range, keep a low profile while doing so. Don't mention politics. Learn how to field strip it, reload more effectively. As much as I hate it the right wingers have videos on how to be more effective with your armaments. Might as well use that information yourself.
PorneliusHubertII
I am actually contemplating buying a handgun and a rifle.
Dimestream
Welcome to my world. My job is definitely going to be secure for the next few months. Get your ammo from Freedom Munitions. The X-Def pistol ammo is really good, and I've heard good things about the 300 Blackout platform. We sell subsonic ammo for that too, so with a suppressor it's exceptionally quiet for a gunshot, and it still hits like a truck.
PorneliusHubertII
Funny that you mention that, I plan on buying a gun that's good with subsonic rounds.
Dimestream
Try our "HUSH" line then. My brother likes it in 300 blackout, and that is a pretty common AR platform.
spookyfckr
I plan on it in the next few days
IamnotEggman
That's the new Health Care plan, bullet $$ < ambulance $$.
MadameTiffany
My husband and I already started looking at guns as soon as we saw the news. In my state you only need a permit for concealed carry. No license or other permit needed.
TehWolfs
Normally is would despise this type of comment. But it’s clear all other avenues have failed.
SubTrout
I won't lie, the paranoia had me making sure my guns were loaded last night as the counts were coming in, as I've got a pride flag and Harris sign on my yard and a house a few doors down has a Trump flag. It's a quiet neighborhood but who the hell knows what these people are prone to do anymore.
hyptosis
Same here, just like back in Germany, your neighbor might be your enemy now. Be careful.
spookyfckr
I would take those flags down for a few months...
SubTrout
I sadly took the Kamala sign to the trash today, but the pride flag stays up. I at least have the luxury of being a very large tall white guy, so I at least don't "present" as an easy target, but if so trying to hold onto the "do no harm but take no shit" mantra.
Clara93
Thankfully not american (but terrified af for all my queer siblings there especially), but if I was there I’d be arming up (even being vehemently anti-guns), hiding any pride symbols and flags, and planning a way out ASAP. Honestly, I’ve been saying it was time to get out since Jan6, before it was too late
SubTrout
Don't have any real plans for leaving the country, no idea where I'd go, but we do have a "bug out bag" full of basic supplies and clothes and such. Made it more for emergencies where you might have to evacuate due to weather like tornadoes, but... yeah it's multi purpose at this point.
xedd82
It’ll be even easier soon enough.
theworldcouldbeflat
Guns aren't going to help stop your impending nuclear doom.
ExecutiveProducerWolfDyck
All of a sudden, it's "MY" impending nuclear doom? No no, it's "OUR" impending nuclear doom.
LeftRightThere
NATO spec would be the practical choice, just saying
MenloPart
I spent eight years in the Army and we spent far too much time dealing with m4 and m16 malfunctions on weapons we couldn't turn in until they passed inspections.
relsky
I fear my .38 revolver won't cut it in the coming years...
PetricusGaming
9mm is the most common ammo type, just in case you need a backup
ZooseKatz
Dependable and doesn’t jam, no?
relsky
Oh it's ultra reliable. But .38 is less common than 9mm or .45 for pistol rounds. And 6 shots may not suffice for what might come.
HighSorcerer
For home defense, experts recommend a shotgun, as you're less likely to shoot yourself than with a pistol. Don't forget to get proper firearm training, no matter what you choose.
RacecarIsRacecarBackwards
Also, you're not as likely to shoot someone in the next room or one house over.
chaosundivided
plus shotties get the most fun ammo
HighSorcerer
Yeah while you're defending your home don't forget to set everything on fire lmao
chaosundivided
it's like the ultimate defense. how often to you see people robbing something that's on fire?
tilerd
Well hang on.. I get a weird vibe their comment was hinting at something nefarious. Maybe a shotgun and training is the wrong approach.
LeftRightThere
https://www.targetbarn.com/broad-side/what-is-nato-ammunition/
HighSorcerer
Nah, it's legitimate advice. I'm not an expert, but what experts have told me is that you are less likely to accidentally injure yourself with a shotgun, and they are more recommended for home defense than a pistol. And, always -always- -ALWAYS- get proper firearm training regardless of the weapon you choose.
tilerd
I was being vague I guess. I was implying it sounded like they were suggesting that someone should shoot Trump. I was then suggesting that they should shoot themselves instead.
GoddessPurpleFrost
Full sweep too. House, senate, everything. Full red government. The only thing to stop what's coming is Biden using his immunity to blackbag these terrorists, something he has said he won't do. So, Dems just sitting back and letting it happen without a fight. Our democracy is done for and if not at the very least we won't have any control of our government for at least 50 years. We're toast.
captainfakeypants
Biden's biggest mistake is not enforcing a death-row sentence for the numerous insurrection and treason crimes he's been tied to.
DarkParn
Won't use the power that will be used on them the moment it can be done.
trayal
We all know that, if Biden tried to actually make use of any of those extended powers, the SC would just step in and officially clarify that they only apply to Republicans...
SwiftyGuy
Exactly! It’s a total trap
slothgrenade1979
🤣🤣🤣 cope and seethe, idiot.
encrypteddecryption
I am sorry for your personal loss, but please do not let despair turn to violence. This is how Jan 6ers were talking before storming the capital. It's time to accept that this result was democracy in action, not stoke fears or radicalize.
OuchYoureonmyhair
There would be an epic political uprising if he did that. And not in a good way
Djones06236
This is why I'm terrified. And I keep seeing friends on Facebook acting like things are going to get better. It's going to be a cascade of massive personnel changes with unqualified idiots, policy that harms minorities, and then a huge hit to our economy which won't be fixed. Within 6-12 months I expect a massive recession.
NervousAstronaut
Democracy dies... right in front of our fucking faces, in broad daylight.
SwiftyGuy
Killed by the very people it was supposed to protect :(
xj4low
And bidens DOJ for slow walking investigations on trump. Jack Smith will be out of the job come day one.
brainkandle1
I'm afraid Jack Smith is going to be thrown in a gulag somewhere
veedubfreak
He deserves it too for letting trump get away with his crimes
SonderingStrike
Well, obviously. The wealthy who support the democrats still stand to gain from the Kleptocracy that will come from Trump. Moderates have, as always, sold the future down the river for a chance at the golden goose the right promises
ichangedmynamejustnow
If our government goes full red, so will our streets with our loved ones after they get their way.
fartser
How much you want to bet the old fuckers on the Supreme Court decide to retire next year.
Sildroni
I wish Ruth would have done that, tho I’m not sure she would have been replaced by another like minded judge with all the shenanigans being pulled by the Rs in the Senate/House.
I believe you are right tho. If those sitting can be convinced to step down. Still have to deal with those egos.
M4UsedRollout
If she had done it in 2013 when Obama begged her to, the Democrats were in control of the Senate and would have had no problem replacing her.
They lost control of the Senate in the 2014 election, yet another election the democrats slept through.
M4UsedRollout
Thomas already said he plans to
mibd
You're right, you get what you deserve
Weblord
The irony here is that the Dems must sit back without a fight to honor democracy.
greentights
I'm surprised we don't have the internal terrorist bells screaming. A way to neutralize the efforts. But IDK, genuinely, if Vance would do something different than trump or if it's all the same with less temper tantrums
SwampApe75
migratingotter
This country has put democracy on the back burner many times in the interest of protecting our country. Biden needs to step up and do what’s necessary.
fnoigy
Because they're secretly all on the same team, the corporate lobbying team
CallThisAUsername
Yeah yeah go fuck yourself though. One bunch ia literally nazis, the others are too close friends with Wall Street for comfort... If you claim they're just as bad, congrats, genius - you're a part of the fucking problem.
wheredidwegonow
Biden using his Trump issued immunity to finally put the fucker down/away would be so so beautiful
RelartOfGivia
Are all the numbers in for the house?
ilovetraveler
As of now the republicunts gained a seat and Dems lost a seat.
ICantThinkOfAUsernameWhilePooping
Nope. Right now dems are tracking to hold the house by exactly 218.
https://abcnews.go.com/Elections/2024-us-house-election-results-live-map
GoddessPurpleFrost
Not yet but the numbers available are basically the same as the house/senate. 60% of the way there and heavily skewed Republican. Based on popular vote, there's virtually no chance the remaining 40% are Dem leaning.
Delta357j
Our democracy is done for😂😂 comedy hour on this app and Im eating it up
DrBlackJack
dudedude09
It’s true. Country is over 👋🏼
PosthumousExile
Hope you like the taste when it's your turn
Delta357j
When trump lost in 2020 I understood that probably some shit I didnt like would happen, and over the course of the last 4 years that was definitely the case. Nevertheless, I just went to work. Didn’t go crying on social media. I am getting a kick out of what Im seeing today though
MadamPuddifoot
You're a priveleged piece of shit then. Only care about yourself.
Delta357j
Hahah whys that? I’m supposed to take responsibility for your feelings about an election?😭Get over yourself you big baby
trisexualgardengnome
Calling for Biden to order the killing of the incoming, duly elected government, followed immediately by the claim “our democracy is done for” is wildly ironic stuff. Glad to see y’all in this echo chamber are properly managing this news like mature adults. God, the next 4 years are going to be amazing. Be sure to hydrate. I want those tears lasting all 4 majestic years.
GoddessPurpleFrost
From the party that threw a literal coup, ladies and gentlemen!
trisexualgardengnome
“Literal”. You keep using that word. I don’t think it means what you think it means. And “ladies and gentlemen”? Kinda transphobic, ngl. From the party of “tolerance and acceptance”, everyone.
GoddessPurpleFrost
Awww look, it's trying to use words it thinks it understands.
trisexualgardengnome
It? Bold of you to assume my pronouns. Or was your goal to disenfranchise and mock those with “it” pronouns? Either way, do better.
philmoregraves
Yeah it's quite the surprise to me, and does seem a bit suspicious as well, but I won't resort to conspiracy theories nor committing an insurrection. I will simply accept things as they are, and if it comes down to those needing help that worked towards these results, I'll leave them behind. Actions meet consequences, they are no longer my concern, and they get to live with what they did
MAN9000
Let's remember that Al Gore won but stepped down prematurely because he didn't demand a recount.
JosephSelah
I'm in the same boat as you. Republicans were desperate to cheat. Infiltrated our ballot counting process with 70+ personnel, and Trump repeatedly said that votes didn't matter. I don't trust he won anything.
arumunus
Honestly I'm thinking recounts need to be demanded.
philmoregraves
I have to imagine they are being demanded as well as major audits. I doubt kamala threw up her hands and said "oh well what can we do" bc the current numbers are outside of your typical margin of error. But even if it were to overturn your gonna see political violence from the right bc of it and say it's rigged, even if Republicans do the audits. Doesn't matter it's fucked now.
Virus322
Throwing up her hands and saying "Oh well what can we do" would be the Democrat way of handling it. I doubt they'll push it too hard. They think they'll just pivot farther right and try again in 4 years.
SideBoobsWillGetYouBanned
What's blackbag?
GoddessPurpleFrost
Exactly what @wherewehavebeen said. Blackbagging is a group of people show up in the night and put a black bag over your head and you're never heard from again.
SJSHARPei
I feel like there’s going to be a lot of black bags in project 2025.
GoddessPurpleFrost
And Trump specifically said he will go after ANYONE who disagrees with him. Black bags are coming. Maybe not in Jan after being sworn in, but once the takeover is complete, the purges begin. Every single time.
wherewehavebeen
Where a group of seal like soldiers show up in the middle of the night rip you out of bed , throw a black bag over your head. Then you are taken to a black site or killed but never heard from again.
slidesxls
Pretty sure it's a body bag? That was my impression anyway
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6Xero9
You sound like a fascist.
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peveay
Your race omg ..... do you know we are all homo sapience ?
Kreviathan
This is why we call conservatives fascists and suckers. You're more interested in maintaining your spot on the hierarchy instead of trying to dismantle it. And yet you support a party only interested in securing their own wealth and suppressing marginalized groups.
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BrockEffingSamson
Is the voice that told you to feel guilty about your race here in the room with us now?
CallThisAUsername
A fascist AND an intellectual coward. Not much better.
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Frostedjakes
Don't forget racist.
jaguar5hark
It's almost like the majority of this country doesn't like that left wing direction. How can that be?
DrBlackJack
ReaperCDN
You don't even have a left wing. The majority of your country just openly embraced fascism, an even more right wing direction. This is what people are pissed about. Ask a democrat if they would prefer George Bush over this and see what the response is.
GeneralNoise
Ill take george bush every time, even with all the patriot act stuff
ReaperCDN
Right? Did you ever think you'd miss Bush? I know I sure as hell didn't. But at the same time he wasn't a fucking fascist and wasn't pushing the USA into being a fascist dictatorship.
Frostedjakes
Majority of votes does not equal majority of the country. What we do know is at least 66 million Americans either haven't been paying attention or fully embrace a rapist, racist, felon of a coward.
johnvictor
The Democrats aren't left wing you knucklehead, they're conservative.
jaguar5hark
We are all conservative now
Dracon27
No, Dems are conservative, Republicans are Fascist.
jaguar5hark
72 million fascists, gotta catch em all!
pareidoliaperson
Demolish the education system, student debts, low income, min wage, no healthcare, spread fear and misinformation, appoint a minority group as the problem, demonize the opponent, appoint politically involved judges, vete good policies from the sitting party...I mean do you mean something entirely different than the above or...?
jaguar5hark
Honestly if the DNC just gave us a better candidate it would be nice.
Virus322
The candidate was fine, the VP was great, but they keep moving right thinking they'll steal voters from the Republicans. It doesn't work, it's never worked, but they'll keep trying because the Dems are a right wing party, no matter how much Trumpers say they're socialist/communist.
schalk31415
Yes the people have voted
JosephSelah
I question that. Republicans absolutely planned to cheat.
Ularsawa
Even if 5% of their votes were gathered by cheating in one or the other way - still, *millions and millions* of Americans voted for trump! Just unbelievable
JosephSelah
The people who rejected him last election decided after jan 6th and his indictments that he was now presidential.
MoxieMonster
Currently 15 million less votes for Harris than what Biden got 4 years ago. People didn't show up and do their part.
PoopSammich
MapleSyrupMafia
Or the people who showed up last time said: Oh look, lots of people are voting, so I don't have to!!!
UprootedGrunt
Anecdotally, that surprises me. My *usual* vote process is an in-and-out in about 5 minutes. Longest I've spent before was waiting behind 4 people, took about 15 minutes total. This year I was there for 3 hours.
Granted, some of that was the new technology (new machines that took my individual voting from 45 seconds to about 4 minutes), but that didn't feel like enough to make the lines THAT long.
xizar
I don't know your area, but I saw reports about inadequate voting stations given population sizes.
UprootedGrunt
We had the same number of machines as usual...but when the voting time quadruples, maybe the number of machines should have too?
hellospacemonkey
The country is full of racists and misogynists. And hypocrites.
OneCraftyHooker
Which is weird because what i saw of early reporting was that she was plus 12 in some places that she lost
sankay369
This country will not elect a woman for president. Very sad.
mabusmordana7
No one wanted her.
WorkSnakes
I did
mabusmordana7
You shouldn't have thought. We should have candidates worth voting for and since we didn't the idiots came out in droves to pick the funny rapist.
L4dead2
I did too. And I am a former Republican
WorkSnakes
That's what kills me.
Leading up to the election i heard story after story about Repubs voting blue, women voting blue, latinos offended by that comedian voting blue, that Dems had a superior ground game. How attendance massively dwindled for trump rallies and were overcrowded at harris rallies.
All lies?
L4dead2
I wanna say foul play but I have no evidence so I’d just look stupid
fallenpenguin82
I feel like something else is at play here. We had double the people show up in my town, yet 15 million fewer people voted?! Should have been total record numbers.
ATLandNerdy
I did my part. We're fucked.
AtmaDarkwolf
Just goes to show, that as a country, the USA prefers a rapist, racist, convicted felon, who is known to have assaulted and raped both women(adults) and children(possibly even his OWN child), is a serial liar, who has proven he can lie non stop for hours on end, over a woman and/or a person of color. This includes those who sat at home because 'both are the same' who actively (by staying home) choose the side who would make life extremely difficult for anyone not male or white. USA = Anti-Woman
gobblinal
33M people voted for her in early/mail-in voting. I can't find numbers on how many people voted day-of but I would've expected it to be a hell of a lot more than 83M so where did everyone go? Red state voter suppression anyone?
mrsparkle001
Shows you how uninspiring a candidate she was. She had a lot going against her, including a party that ignored her until they realized their preferred candidate wasn't electable. If the country wants its first woman president it has to do better than Hillary and Kamala.
PastureofMuppets
Youre saying Trump is more inspiring? With rape, felony charges, failed casinos, referring to a female candidate as a bitch, mocking a reporter with Cerebral Palsy, and refusing to ever release a healthcare plan? Defrauding a childrens' cancer charity???
mrsparkle001
To a majority of the voters this time yes Trump was more inspiring. She lost the popular vote. She should not have been the candidate. Look at what she managed to do:
StOfKillers
Well maybe Ivanka will run or MTG? Those the kind of women you’re looking for?
JoeSlice
They should have had a real democratic convention. If they would have addressed the Biden problem earlier and got behind a better candidate they would have won. In a landslide.
Margrave9000
This candidate was better. The fucking idiots not voting for her for whatever damn 'reason' their rotten brains came up with will regret it.
People should have understood that a chipped mug half full of boiled piss would have been an objectively better candidate. That the motto 'vote Blue no matter who' is wisdom passed down by generations who fought hard for the freedoms this electorate is throwing away.
WorkSnakes
I dunno about that. I think this was in the cards the whole time
FetteredJuvenescence
Y'all are too optimistic. 15 million people who were willing to vote for a white man weren't willing to vote for a black woman. That's the real, hard truth nobody wants to face.
Margrave9000
It's a clear decision. People took the side of fascism. There's no way back from here. America doesn't deserve progress, democracy & human rights. This society has become unworthy to carry the torch of freedom and thus it must be passed on to a new, vigorous and determined vanguard.
cuckatruck
Misogyny and racism is alive and well in America.
SamaelQliphoth
It's one of the things I was worried about when Harris took the reins. Everyone was looking at the poll numbers, and logically she was more than qualified, but I kept having gnawing anxiety about how things worked with Hilary repeating themselves.
notyoubizness
Yup. It's that simple.
limbodog
Yeah. I hope they live forever
jacquelinedilmore86
In my town (red state) they told us they ran out of ballots to come back at 6. Of course that didn't go over well. I had a blank sheet of paper and some weird machine and then the regular machine it was such a messed up bunch of shit, on the news and everything. I waited 6 hours to vote. It did no good and this shit with the ballots was allowed. What the hell, I will never vote again, never. It dosent matter anymore I am convinced it's all right and our vote DOES NOT MATTER.
B0ardski
knew the oligarcs were going to install him, now all of a sudden the magats will start buying cybertrucks and electric cars will be ok
mrsparkle001
No it does matter. Look at New York. Trump went from losing by 23 points in 2020 to just by 10 points in 2024. That's a huge swing. If you don't vote and others don't vote, it can tip the scales.
Bigcurly2000
"I will never vote again, never." Great, you've given up. Well done. Now you're part of the problem.
SuperPickle17
it's ok. trump said we'll never have to vote again.
jacquelinedilmore86
I waited in line over 6 hours, was told several times to come back because they ran out of ballots, was given a blank sheet of paper to put into some machine, then into the voting machine ? And nothing was done about it? Now tell me why I don't think my vote mattered.
Bigcurly2000
So all the strategies they used to get you to give up and never vote again...worked. You're letting them win. Now and forever.
jacquelinedilmore86
Well your right. Fuck them. I'm just so upset.
Bigcurly2000
Look I'm not unsympathetic, it absolutely sucks that you went through that, voting should never be that hard and I get that it's disheartening. But...who does you giving up benefit? The ones who have tried so hard to get you to give up. The ones who have made it harder to vote. The ones who are going to stay in power forever if regular people give up.
jonnnney
The democratic party didn't do their part either. Nor did Kamala. 5 texts a day and courting right wing voters doesn't get the left out to vote.
CelestialSea
Voter turnout overall is way lower which I just don't get. Makes me wonder if it's voter suppression, axing people from the rolls, or some other shenanigans. The Seltzer poll in Iowa has never been more than 5 points out in the past and it was 16 points off. Doesn't make sense.
Fairemont
Most sexist and racist country in the world. Why would anyone expect a big turnout for a black woman?
PickleForBreakfast
Taliban reading this comment: "really? After all the effort we put in?"
HeywouldJablowme
This was my fear all along. A woman maybe, but a black woman? No. We also know how conservatives completely lost their minds when we elected a black president. And it's not just White people. It's everybody.
TakeAChillPill16
Nope. Hillary should have been the canary in the coal mine about Dems nominating ANY woman for president.
HeywouldJablowme
I'm ashamed to admit that it didn't even occur to me that Kamala was a woman. And the American people are so misogynistic they will choose a psychopath over a woman to be president. Make no mistake. I'm no Hillary lover. I can't stand the Clinton family. But I forgot that Trump has only been beaten by another man. I expected Kamala to win, but I forgot, just like hillary, that she was a woman running against a trump.
TheGrubinator
Saudi Arabia would like a word. As would Qatar, etc.
Raziel420
Not really, because they don't claim to be anything other than the repressive monarchies they claim to be, while we claim to be the most democratic anti facist anti racist country in the world, while electing a racist fascist dictator.
SuperPickle17
you mean the one funding supreme Cheeto?
Fairemont
Just hold that thought for a few years.
Selfawerewolf
Okay sorry so right up there with the most sexist and racist countries in the world. What a weird thing to have to qualify.
snapperwhip
I think misogyny has something to do with it, unfortunately
ExecutiveProducerWolfDyck
The misogynists votes for trump last time. The new votes are from fraud. The animals didn't stop trying to cheat at any point.
HomeDepotAisle15
I live in California but the most red section of cali where most of the people here are of Hispanic origin and boy they would rather take this goon over a woman any day.
Raziel420
I think rampant racism, intimidation at and near polling places, and blatant ignorance of law and order pretty much sums up all that had to with it
Fanner50
Why did the majority of white women vote for Trump?
Misogyny?
Whether it’s a man or woman on the top of the ticket, the last 5 elections, women have voted 54-55% for democrats. You’d think it would jump up when it’s a woman, it doesn’t.
ComradeBinch
Oh jesus christ. Theres always a race/sex factor but there wasnt enough on a statistical level to make a difference. The current administration with her in it is widely unpopular, her campaign was shit as the polls correctly showed and she never changed course. She fucked it, not the voters
michiyl
Trump is a populist. Easy answers for complex problems. Apparently more than enough Americans loved to not having to think for themselves, so now they won't ever have to again ...
ontheotherone
Welcome to Costco, I love you!
michiyl
Spoken like a true patriot, here's some American social credit for you! /s
neospor1n
Agreed, but also the second time the dems put up a woman who didn’t go through ‘normal’ primaries. Hillary picked up hundreds of superdelegates really early and skewed the 2016 primaries very hard
Zega000
That's definitely a factor. Racism too.
vnqx
I've been thinking this too. Trump was the constant, Clinton lost, Biden won, Harris lost. Should probably just stop taking the risk..
Margrave9000
It's not a risk. It was a test - one that American society failed and doubled down on its failure. Progress cannot stop, new milestones were needed.
The progress of humanity will inevitably continue, but perhaps another country should take the helm. Transitioning all the institutions, the collected wisdom etc. will take decades and there will be setbacks and tragedies. But a new, reinvigorated population will take up the mantle eventually and disperse tRump's lingering, long shadow.
soepie7
Or at least not take the risk when so much is put on the line.
vnqx
I don't think this problem is going away
Humputse
I think you won't have to worry about that in the future. Unfortunately.
michiyl
Trump will create, and use, an executive dictatorship (bundling all the available power to the president). Say goodbye to the current US democracy.
Jsupes
Yes, I hate to say it but this country is just not progressive enough to have a woman president yet. Until that time I’d rather end up with a male Democrat president than a disgusting piece of shit, which is any Republican
HavetsHerren
I think that's one of the root problems. With all the very personal freedoms the US are fighting for (LGBT+, minorities etc), they (you?) tend to see yourself as more liberal/progressist than you actually are. I think Europe clearly has the edge when it comes to accepting women in positions of power... I'm so sorry for you. I was just watching Will & Harper yesterday evening, thinking that there were good people worth fighting for in the US... Today I want to vomit too.
vnqx
That's the other thing, I think a lot of it is backlash over LGBT issues. They didn't like gay marriage, but trans issues really pissed them off
HavetsHerren
They don't like that the government and city people display so much support when people struggle so much and have to buy iphones & opioids to sedate themselves and class progress has been dropped as a cause by democrats. It's always a problem of "me first".
pvtsquirel
What's confusing the shit out of me is Clinton won the popular vote with plenty of scandals (whether or not they were valid), it's hard to blame this purely on sexism. I can understand that we lost the election, but how the fuck did Kamala lose the popular vote? I just don't understand what happened
snapperwhip
Hatred is so engrained in American culture that it still can’t be changed. Hate of any skin color other than white and women.
FML
snapperwhip
Hatred is so engrained in American culture that it still can’t be changed. Hate of any skin color other than white and women.
FML
pvtsquirel
I mean, we had Obama for two terms, so that doesn't make a lot of sense either. Also, your comment is posted three times, just fyi
snapperwhip
Hatred is so engrained in American culture that it still can’t be changed. Hate of any skin color other than white and women.
FML
Eldis
Harris is a black woman. People are racist and misogynist, but some people aren't both.
ilovetraveler
Racism. Kamala had both misogyny and racism going against her and ultimately, I think that's what got her. They were counting on Latinos showing up and a decent amount of Latino men refused to vote for a woman. A decent amount of young men also wouldn't vote for her. Lots of bitter incels. They were counting on white women to show up and vote for her because of abortion rights, and those women either wouldn't vote for a black woman or were stupid enough to think trump is better for the economy.
DaveSamsonite
Probably a lot of voter suppression but also there was so much completely deceitful negative advertising on how "bad" the economy is, plus very very bad lack of messaging deom the White House condemning Israel.
I know a LOT of young eligible voters that decided to stay home, and its really frustrating to see that voter turnout was so poor.
I am 60 and this was literally the most important election of my lifetime.
Every young person had a HUGE stake in the outcome. I am very disappointed.
whoatherebigfella
I personally think she lost because she really didn’t have any substantial country running experience. Her record just didn’t say presidential material to me. Trump had his base and I’d imagine that very few of them came to Harris’s side. I didn’t vote for Trump either but enough did.
You’re correct on the young voters who were the biggest talkers, not showing up. They get to reap what their reward is, whatever it may be.
As far as the economy, it sucked under Biden and continues to. I’m 63
DaveSamsonite
My wife is and I am not joking, suicidal. Things are going to get unbelievably bad.