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The top one is fake, the bottom one is real. (At least it better be, my husband gave it to me for groceries.)
I work in the liquor store in a tiny town in Missouri. When I came in this morning, the fake one was tacked to the office bulletin board. Which means someone tried to use it to buy liquor.
#nicetry #sortofinteresting #counterfeit
As you can see, the fake one says "Motion Picture Use Only". Since no one in their right mind films motion pictures anywhere near Missouri, it's odd to me that it made it's way here. This thing has had a long journey.
There's that disapproving, slightly judgmental frown I've grown to love! The one that says "you really shouldn't be rolling me up to sniff a line with." Thanks, Ben! Good advice.
i336
Stared at the first picture to figure it out... noticed the signatures are different! I'm guessing as a deliberate flaw?
Trifone48
OR, they were trying to show their artistic side and you need to give them a chance, Op.
bunnyrut
someone once tried to give me a photocopy of a 20 dollar bill.
128butts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFfG0hlA0FU
PhillipBee
So this is what a lot of rappers use to look more well off than they actually are.
WhiteLily928
According to TMZ, totally true :)
Lebim
I also work in a liquor store in a tiny town in Missouri ???? I'm in Warrensburg, where art thou?
Vitrum
Only about 45 minutes West.
cominginhot
dat clip-art 100
Lvl1dad
100% illegal to use. Had one come through my store last year.
ThatOneGuyOP
Is that a sassy Ben Franklin in the counterfeit?
wwny
You can buy movie tickets with it, right?
Whiachy
I feel like Ben would be more disappointed that you aren't sharing the line with him. The man was a party animal.
404NameN0tF0und
I love how they used a bill tester on it anyways.
Munchman347
Should have coated it with hair spray...My friend told me that...
TheZade
Money travels around quite a bit. There (used to be?) websites where you could enter the serial number and see where that bill had been.
TheZade
I've seen a few bills stamped with the website address, but it's been a few years, not sure it's still a thing
conroyfan22
"Where's George?" is still a thing! http://www.wheresgeorge.com
napsmear
Entered some bills there way back in 2003, took me forever to find the password to login :)
voxOpprimo
As a LEO in Florida, I've been seeing these a lot
rickeyspanish
as a Taurus in Texas, I have never seen one
voxOpprimo
Let me clarify: **As a cancer LEO in Florida...
rickeyspanish
I googled it. I have no idea what a LEO is. let's hear it pls.
voxOpprimo
Law Enforcement Officer lol
boopmonger
What if I told you all paper money is fake and holds no real value?
128butts
RON PAUL 2012
froudi
They really had to use a marker? It wasn't obvious enough?
NotWalterWhite
I too live in Missouri
mostlyh2o
actually, IIRC, Missouri a few years ago was offering movie studios incentives to film there -- like tax breaks and such
raggedrabbit
The top image of Franklin simply says, "I've just swallowed an entire tube on Bengay, and I'm not even sorry about it."
Vitrum
Right?!?
KCBeard
I've worked on several films in KC; people film in MO. Christina Grimmie's only feature film was made all around KC.
PhillipBee
WhiteLily928
There are so many subtle differences. Everytime I look at it I find something else! The artist clearly made an effort while designing it.
GoochoLibre
I mark bills with twirly mustaches so if they're counterfeit, they look like a real bill's evil twin. :D
UltraLegoGamer
Considering this is my first and likely last time I've seen a $100 bill, I couldn't tell.
WhiteLily928
That's who are counting on in smaller towns. Honestly, I though the new design looked fake when the bills were first circulated.
hyperspacehost
One rap fuck drove down the Glasgow lane by the bar I worked at throwing fake £20s out his door. Anyone who took one that night got sacked:(
GolFoehammer
Aside from the fact that the top one Franklin looks like he's sucking on a lemon...
Foreverbanned223
Where in Missouri? I live just outside the city
Vitrum
Appleton City. I'm from Kansas City myself.
Foreverbanned223
Thank you. I'll be keeping an eye out for this tom foolery
Vitrum
What city are you just out of?
Foreverbanned223
St. Louis. Just moved out this way not too long ago. Came from Boston. Moved around for 6 years before that.
Vitrum
Boston seems like a neat city, I'd love to visit it to see the historical sites.
iantollewellyn
This happened in my town in West Kentucky recently.
ThanksForNothing
Where? I live in Murray!
bellaluna
From the thumbnail I could tell something about the top Ben's face was wrong. His eyebrow raised like "You gonna let me get away with this?"
Rivalyn
Honestly I wouldn't be surprised if that was some movie magnate with a resemblance to ol' Benjy. Nose, mouth, and head shape- all different.
bellaluna
Yeah, everything is just a little tweaked.
Vitrum
I didn't notice that until you pointed it out, that's hilarious! Sassy Ben for the win!
WhatKindOfBeesMakeMilk
His perm is starting to fall out. I think that's what it is...
cosinewave
To be fair, It is clearly marked as fake.
Corrodias
And someone still had to use the marker on it, JUST to make sure!
eion85
Doesn't matter as far as the law is concerned. It could be in crayon and it's still illegal. https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/472
cosinewave
That is the point. The person trying to pass it has no excuse. Nor does the person who tested it with a pen.
Steelballsofstill
As someone who has never seen a real $100 i will never notice.
Lykus12
I would hope you would at least realize it's not supposed to say 'For motion picture use only' on it!
Steelballsofstill
I dont think i will ever notice, sure i check how much it is, but will never bother reading whats on it
WhiteLily928
Agreed. The mind takes shortcuts & fills in common stuff to save time, it's why we can read those silly FB posts with the letters messed up
WhiteLily928
Only if you are looking closely would you notice it. Numerous studies have proven how easily our minds can be tricked, by our own minds.
jiminibillybob
Mindception
10mm404
Case I'm point, ghosts.
Swolebunnymen
I guess he was counting on someone not noticing. Some people just take a bill without looking at it.
AnExpertInThisField
1s 5s and 10s, sure. 100s? Fuck no, you better believe I'm calling the FBI to make sure it's legit.
whiskeyzombie
Yeah but they never feel right, unless they bleach a smaller bill and re-print it
skelitor120
If you're a cashier and you don't look twice at 50 and 100 bills then you deserve to lose your job lol
Negnarholf
You're getting downvoted, but it's true. It's part of your job to check that shit, man.
skelitor120
Ironically, I was saying that having been a cashier all my life. I work at a place where the standard total is over 100$ and i still check.
unsmith
If it's declared as prop money, is it really counterfeit? I'm legit curious if it's more the note production or the note passing that's bad.
DumbBr0ad
I tried to buy liquor with monopoly money and they said, get out of here you dumb broad!!!
kingofthediamond
I have a huge stack of prop money at home. Poker nights are fun at my house. Its not illegal unless you try to pass it off as real
redredgreengreen
Pretty sure that would be fraud, as you are misrepresenting something for personal gain to the detriment of others.
license2kilt
Not "technically" counterfeit but still a crime to attempt to pass it off as real for payment.
WhiteLily928
Secret Service says otherwise. I'll stick with their definition.
license2kilt
Secret Service has specific rules regarding production, use, and handling of prop money.
actry
There's an artist who deals with this question, very interesting stuff. Look up Boggs Bills.
TormentedPenguin
only if they declare it. If trying to use it as legal tender, it's counterfeit.
PhilthyPollock
What if you try and pass it off as real but never knew yourself it was fake?
dursland
This happened to a friend of mine. Tried to pay $100 worth of groceries at a walmart. Had to talk to police and explain where bill came 1/2
dursland
from. No charges as they genuinely didn't know it was counterfeit. Only bad thing was them being out 100 bucks.
BigAdam
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHFVJaT35D4 - Its legally very tricky and only a few film folks do it.
Swolebunnymen
I once had a guy try to pay me at work with a fake $10 that had a caricature of Hamilton on it.
skelitor120
It is "counterfeit", meaning that it's a lookalike fake, but it's not illegal to make or have-- just to attempt to use as tender.
ShwagMaster150
I think it's like robbing someone with a toy gun. The gun is fake, but the robbery happened.
oldskoolzeldafan
which is still 'armed robbery' and that is what they would get charged with. (1)
oldskoolzeldafan
even if you were to have your hand in your pocket and pointed the pocket as if you were hiding a gun (finger gun in pocket) it's still (2)
oldskoolzeldafan
armed robbery. (source: LA County Sheriff, when why store got robbed) (3)
Cereaza
Yeah, it's clearly marked as fake, so it's not strictly counterfeit.
WhiteLily928
Cereaza
It says "Not real money" on it. It's not counterfeit. It's still fraud if you try to use it, at the very least. But it's not counterfeit.
WhiteLily928
Secret Service: "It is counterfeit...it is not considered prop money because the look, shape & feel resemble genuine money".
Vitrum
I'm so glad you're on Imgur now! Welcome!
rubbarz
Prop money is used because destroying a federal note is a felony. Trying to use it as real is like using a fake id.
WhiteLily928
Despite its name, 'motion picture' money is not used as props in movies or television shows.
rubbarz
Not illegal to have but illegal to use.
Flyndaran
It is not illegal to destroy currency. That is not what deface means in context. It means to alter to assist counterfeiting.
rubbarz
Defacing is just one of the few things that is illegal... http://www.bankrate.com/financing/banking/destroying-money-may-be-a-crime/
Flyndaran
Donkeys can't sleep in bathtubs in New York. Laws that are never prosecuted are meaningless.
rubbarz
And yes, destroying a bank note is illegal. So if a production company destroyed actual money, they would be in trouble. A lot of trouble.
FernandoRumdebum
Anything you try to use as legal tender is technically illegal. I wonder if I wrote £10 on a burger and tried it they'd still prosecute..
SuperCynic
Yet you can write a cheque on anything.
nesurame
They'd probably just give you strange looks.
Vitrum
I'm assuming the attempt to pass it off as real is the illegal part. No one printed it intending to use it as real cash.
Wubalubadubdub7
Some late info: there is around 2 companies in USA that the federal gov allows to print money for movies
BitchButcher
That's the illegal part even if I write "100 bucks" on a blank piece of paper? Trying to pass it off as real makes it become counterfeit?
UncivilizedEngie
Yeah, but I bet at that level of trying the cashier would probably just laugh at you for a bit. Unless you started getting annoying.
NotACop1515IsMyAgeNotACop
So basically, monopoly money is counterfeit?
ConvenientTruth
It only becomes counterfeit if you try to use it as legal tender
NotACop1515IsMyAgeNotACop
So my shoe can be counterfeit?
ConvenientTruth
You dense motherfucker
DocNefario
No, it has to be similar to the actual thing.
eion85
'tis https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/472
MrNohbdy
Attempting to pass prop money as real is illegal, prop money existing isn't.
KanzenChowa
Whats the rule for hash coins?
XanderCorsaj
That man's eyes have got to be ruined beyond all hope from wearing those fishbowls. Top commitment to the bit though.
unsmith
That's what I thought, so this isn't a counterfeit $100. What do we call the act of trying to pass it?
WhiteLily928
It is absolutely counterfeit, not prop money. 20 years prison if caught.
eion85
It's still uttering https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/472
apercent
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Tripleoseven
I had a fake 100 . i was like real deal shit , same paper , blue strip , gold bell , no water mark though . i gave it to my ex
WhiteLily928
Out of curiosity, is it your autocorrect that added the extra spaces? And did you know it was fake before you gave it away?
ihatewarmpickles
Reading your comment with the spaces between commas and periods makes me irrationally angry.
lncorrectGrammerNazi
It makes me want to shoot myself in the head.
WhiteLily928
Counterfeits that are so good they pass for real money are called Superdollars. About $3 per $100,000 currently exists.
AyAyRonn
A Fed employee in the counterfeit division told me they haven't found any super $100s since the new ones came out too.
ihatewarmpickles
Wait, $3 counterfeit ones for every $100,000 real ones exists?
MrNohbdy
I believe it's charged as fraud.
Gizmodian
What if he got it legally and legitimately didn't pay enough attention to look at it? How do they deal with that? Is it still fraud?
lncorrectGrammerNazi
Pretty sure that depends on whether the store wants to press charges.
MrNohbdy
Apparently, intent is almost always required for that kind of charge.
Tinkerbellatrix
You can buy prop money on amazon, or ebay. Like $20 per $10k.
metalfoto
Big deal
WhiteLily928
'Motion Picture' money is not considered prop money by the Secret Service because it looks too real. It is contraband if purchased.
beerlady
Get rich quick and cheap
WhiteLily928
Or 20 years in prison, it's crap shoot.
DotSlashNatalie
Banks hate this one get rich quick trick!
Whoamioooooo
^ Can confirm. I work in a bank and have seen a few of these, its sad that people wouldn't notice the obvious fake bills.
Vitrum
The texture is way too smooth because it's printed on paper and not linen. So it should be blatantly obvious as soon as they touch it.
Whoamioooooo
Not to mention even at a quick glance it's visually obvious that none of the security features are right.
Corrodias
So many clues, yeah. And yet, someone still had to use the marker on it, JUST to make sure. :)
WhiteLily928
Just an automated process nowadays. Anything 20 and higher requires the marker use. I bet the person marked it before registering the feel.
WhiteLily928
For those of us that don't handle large bills often, or ever, the real bills look just as fake as fake ones at first glance.
Whoamioooooo
Then I would suggest getting to know the money you handle a little better. The security strip, color changing ink in the bell, and 100
Whoamioooooo
Are all dead giveaways and a closer look at the watermark and tiny blue/red threads in the paper can help to tell as well.