Dec 28, 2016 1:05 PM
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BeverleyMacker
Pearl Harbor ACTUALLY COULD HAVE melted steel beams.
Demauscian
Bitch, have you never played Pac-Man? When you reach the edge of the world you teleport to the other side.
PeopleSeemToHaveLongNamesOnImgur
I was gonna say the same thing. Pac Man goes all the way right he ends up left. Same with Japanese Planes.
RileyBanned
1931
dolphindreamsandsatan
Hey... What's ten years give or take
jelliclescanandjelliclesdo
1931... a year that will live in infamy.
HunteramongPrey
Someone out there actually believes this.
GeorgeGrimaldo
I do, they are sneakybastards them Nazis, they found a way!
ArtArchive
For every single idea, there's someone out there that actually believes it.
Stache13081
Some ONE??!! There are TWO's of us! TWO's I say!
harbingerjo
This confirms it. A future traveler went back to 1931 Japan and gave them portal technology so they can...wait whuuutt???
stabbedintheface
You forgot the obligatory "Educate yourself" comment
BlownByTheMonsignor
http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/wake_up_sheeple.png
Drosophilamelanobastard
Sake can't steel boats.
Fropps
Melt
points
GET. OUT.
TheRedBaKon
HelpMeAnakinTheJediAreTakingOUVAH
It can steel the resolve of the men on those boats though
WhiterunWarriorProject
And lead men to steal boats.
slagath0r
Hahahaahhaaa
iamatiger
The word retard makes me laugh.
SharkyTheDog
Ken M? Is that you?
CaptainGoomba
Lol +1
MrsQuill
That one person who starts 10 years early so they don't have to ask for directions.
Evaldas
You've the wrong map
noodlemcb
Love!!
derringermeryl
This is stressing me out.
PastureofMuppets
thats neat.
basketball523
I may be high, but that looks like Phil from Hercules giving em the bird
bbbenni
Bush did Pearl Harbor!
tippytruck
Prescott Bush probably did do Pearl Harbor. It's obviously a family tradition.
yellowtechno
MrtheOffender
guys Guys GUYS, what if they government conspiracy about 9 11..... IS a government conspiracy! dun dun duuunnnnnn
diontheunstable
Honestly? That one I'd believe. Good misdirection tactic, making "nutters" look even nuttier.
ExcuseMe2
Got some facts, then?
Nope, just a south park episode
PutrescentTumescence
This nonsense brought to you by Ken M.
TheOfficialHillaryClinton
Japanese planes made in 1941 couldn't have been flown in 1931
killswich7277
Even though this is a joke (I hope!) I feel my brain cells just quitting life
If your hoping it its a joke ur brains cells r dead
Tribalflex
I love when someone insults me just before trying to explain something
jjakubik11
Why did you bring this cancer here?
MizKriss
They did, but it took them 10 years to get there.
mossysabertoothtiger
It was Chicken and Cow
HechoInYaBootyco
Fuck you wharue anda fuck you dolpheen!
HapilyDamaged
or was it dorphin and awhale?
angiemorris
nah dog and cat
Corgilicioussterlingarcher
Thanks Obama
twfeline
Too soon, man.
GeorgeOHagan
There must be a position for Caleb in the trump administration!
Lungsforsale
Soon as I see the word sheeple I know I'm about too gain some serious factual knowledge
There are better ways to get your point seen/heard and believed than insulting your target audience. Why has nobody realized this?
Genini
I was doubtful, but you used the word sheeple so it's a fact.
gostoso666
In 1931 they probably couldn't have.
IJustLikeToArgue
It took them 10 years to reach Hawaii.
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HottRod
That's the kicker!
CyborgScribe
The whistling sound just now was the joke flying by.
CatBlaster5000
I know what you meant, I'm trying to help you out here.
Are you referring particularly to aircrafts, or boats? Because if it's boats, it doesn't apply. Pearl Harbor, as you know, was an air raid.
ItzPerfection
Yeah look at you trying to do it right now
And the implication the man made, that your implying is pompous, is that planes weren't operable.
Potatopinup
It took your comment for me to realise he'd put 1931... this joke has so many layers!
focusundrunkes
So in ten years things changed to where we thought hey let's obliterate for that and 4 years later we did.
DrunkGermanGuy
This also obviously isn't a 1930's/1940's map.
hardytardigrade
And it took your reply for me to realize it. My brain has so many stupids
RockTheCatBox
"So many stupids"....I love this and I am going to use it.
DrunkSnowWhite
And I still don't get it
SoDaSexy
Pearl Harbor happened December 7, 1941 ;)
This is why I should have taken history. Stay in school kids.
BritishApe
Tbf I think a modern plane nowadays would struggle to fly that distance in one go
shinagami091
There was a solar plane that flew around the world non stop wasn't there? It was unmanned I think though
CorgisAreMyThing
Amelia Airheart tried but we see how that ended(she made pit stops)
blunte
Without mid air refueling or a specially built systems, no. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rutan_Voyager this plane did it though.
downvotersarejusthipsterswhoneedahug
What a great read! Thank you:)
ErinFromTheOffice
That flew along a great circle which is likely a lot shorter than this distance.
DeathStarWasAnInsideJob
In all seriousness it was pretty impressive that Japan managed to sneak a whole carrier strike fleet within 300 miles of Hawaii
SeattleSurfEscapes
Limited radar technology, the Army only operating the radar stations for two hours a day, + a storm front moving toward Hawaii def helped
JessieJanson
They didn't sneak it, our govt was told in advance but chose to let it happen because the US citizens didn't think it was their fight. 1/2
as a result of the attack the us citizens demanded the war rather then having to be convinced(which wasn't working). There is also rumor 2/3
that the radar station was down for maintenance or that the warning/fax wasn't seen.
wabash9000
I've heard theories that we knew about it but needed a reason to get into war in Europe, so we just let it happen.
HereToKickAssAndChewGum
The American involvement in Europe was because Hitler declared war on the US. German and American ships had been sinking each other b4 then.
Yes, but our involvement was limited to supplies and defending supplies. We needed a push to sway public opinion away from isolationism.
But declaring war on Japan didn't change that. But Hitler honoured the Axis treaty and that got the US into Europe. Youdonefuckedupnow.gif
Hitler that is, not you specifically
IAmHollyw00d
They knew the fleet had been deployed, just thought the target was the Dutch East Indies
Taihennami
To be fair, that was *also* true.
KerbalSlamIntoTheGroundProgram
which is why the dutch built the vessel Tromp
rrlyrae
and japan did, in fact, attack the phillipines a few hours later.
aboxacaraflatafan
IMB4 ninja jokes?
krenshala
How do you know the ninja jokes aren't here already?!
Feanor19
IIRC the guy that planned the attack was the same one who warned his government about 'waking the sleeping beast'. He was anti war with US
Lasre15
Don't forget Billy Mitchell. He predicted the attack in the 1930's
Yamamoto. Fascinating guy and a brilliant military tactician
JoeinCanada
RADAR was in its early stages and nobody was expecting it so no patrols. Frankly the Japanese were surprised themselves at their success.
DavidBrooker
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEjgqJzCzK0
"It actually worked? IMPOSSIBRU"
saccharin
bombers coming in because they were expected at some point. I forgot the details, but they thought it was US planes, basically 2/2.
I was at Pearl Harbor earlier this year. Apparently someone did see the squadron of planes, but they thought it was some American 1/2
GuardsmanMiku
I was gonna correct you and say radar didn't exist at all at the start of the war, but I forgot how late America actually joined
There was RADAR at Pearl Harbour, but the size of the fleet indicated by the signal made the operators think the equipment was not working.
They basically went "that can't be right" and ignored what they were seeing on the scope and didn't report it to the base commander.
The British began the CHAIN home RADAR system in 1936 and covered all of the UK by 1940. Gave them the big edge in the Battle of Britain.
ahh, well i just got schooled i guess
RockerFoxes
I think the "Oh god, we fucked up" moment came when they realized just how fast the US got their fleet back together afterwards.
Frankly Japan was hoping that the strong isolationist movement in the US would keep the US from retaliating; that proved to be very wrong.
malachitedragon
It didn't help them any that they were hoping to fuck up some of our carriers, NONE of which were in port at the time.
squirrelfartsy
Part of that happened to be the luck that the US carriers were all at sea at the time, rather than destroyed at Pearl.
PwnageHobo
Well it makes about as much sense as any other conspiracy theory I've heard
GuyFieriIsMySpiritAnimal
911 WAS AN INSIDE JOB WAKE UP PEOPLE
MouseTheFooDog
Bro I need to tell you about a real suspicious pizza place
escalinci
And her charity took donations from qatar something something clinton founded ISIS?
putinmybutt
You'd be surprised how many of these theory turn out to be true after many years of speculation.
andyonetime
I wouldn't be suprised. The number is very low. Especially considering how many truly outlandish theories there are.
NotWhatYouPlanted
But you do get that they could have just flown toward the east, right? The joke is that they're circumnavigating the globe for no reason.
In the same way that jet fuel wouldn't need to actually melt steel beams to bring down a skyscraper.
ravenforthekell
The thing about conspiracy theories is that they're happening all the time. The water you drink is being made a commercial commodity was 1/?
once a conspiracy theory and is being attempted by Nestle. The US going into Iraq for shady shit was a conspiracy and is now considered 2/?
a fact by most. Something being labeled a conspiracy doesn't make it a crackpot theory, even though politicians spout it when talking 3/4
altfiction
that's because the word "conspiracy" has been associated with "wearing tin foil hats" and such by many people, taking it's power away. 1/2
..use the word "conspire", sits better with sheeple.
about global warming. 4/4
AmazinglyCoolNameHere
Even a broken clock is right twice a day. The latter is still a lot of guesswork. And what are you talking about with Nestle?
You don't get any marks if you don't show your work. You may end up being correct, but you're never actually right.
Wimpymind
http://www.businessinsider.com/5-conspiracy-theories-that-turned-out-to-be-true-2015-6?r=US&IR=T&IR=T
FajitaPrinceofAllMexicans
Business Insider I get that you don't like me using adblocker but this is kind of information you shouldn't block over it.
TheDarkLordOfTrees
It's a conspiracy
xzhous
What if this BI article is created by a conspiracy theorist who wanted to legitimize conspiracy theories? Where is your god now?
serious answer to your unserious question: Plenty of other sources for those. Such as declassified docs released under foia requests.
Lefty2k59
But jet fuel can't melt steel beams.
Jet beams can't melt steel fuel
Polarisesque
Jet fuel can make dank meme!
SchrodingerMil
"No but it can severely weaken them" - tour guide at the 9-11 museum.
kamosey
And yet some turn out to be true.
Even a broken clock is right twice a day.
TimTheEnchanter01
Generally not the ones that violate basic scientific principles though.
Like religion.
DynamoGurkin
Like lizard people
polymetricr
It sounds like you meant the lizard people is a scientific principle
MyRabbitIsAVegan
@JenniferLawrenceIsALizardPerson
DustyBin
...and they couldn't have gone the other way 'cause they'd have fallen off the edge of the world.
TacticalSergeant
Trassation
They could if you turn on the "donut world" setting.
JustHereForTopComment
That's the joke.
PietroAretino
that doesn't make sense, they could have just flown around the big gap
oxca182
But they would've been discovered
Theres no sattelites orbiting the nothingness after the edge of the flat planet. They could have flown beneath, you know like paper.
NobodyExpectsTheSpanishInquistion
No cause planes fly so they would have just flown into space and got lost.
I was thinking more about the use of aircraft carriers!
No cause they can just put the aircraft carrier on top of the planes and then have a aircraft carrier carrier.
Digicat
Duh
ImAFoxButNotReally
Japan was an advanced country that discovered how to fold time and space. The didn't have to travel.
Zcarsnarl
Flat Earth best Earth
manupug
flat earth?
StunnedGoofy
offendineveryway
Yep its flat and enclosed in a dome--YouTube told me so
There's also a hole in the middle where the nazis and dinosaurs live.
TorchicTheCanibalHobo
Yeah we at the flat earth society have members all around the globe
.... Wait
dante1120
Say that again... slowly.
cousteau
Those people say it's a disc with the North pole in the middle though, so the left/right edges wouldn't exist.
Ishouldhavecalledinsicktoday
I thought this was a joke, but someone over the holidays spent an hour trying to get me to see how the earth is flat... I was shocked.
Teatimebeforecolonizetime
ah happend to me, i just laughing, when she ask what so funny i said nothing and just listening with confused smile.
welp never ask for advice to her.
ArvisJaggamar
Was it someone you formerly respected? I had that happen. Really messed me up for several weeks.
No thank goodness. There's always some kind of hope someone's not a complete idiot though, there isn't any way to come back from that one.
Xhael
This happened to me recently also. Spent weeks showing my friend how mathematically and physically impossible it is. wound up 1/
ruining the friendship....
Grudgebearingmidget
Trust me, if you trying to prove a fact mankind has established for over 2000 years, ruined the friendship, you're better off without 'm.
peridotstar
Man that is utterly fucked.
tootiredtosleeptootiredtonotsleep
Offcourse, since the earth is flat
privatepublic
I actually have a cousin who is a flat earther. He also believes zika was developed by bill gates and that Sandy Hook vics were child actors
oBusk
Flat earthers actually think the earth is a disc with the north pole in the center. That way you can go 'around'. It's retarded
and sits on the back of 4 elephants who stand on a giant turtle
KLUSTENATOR
Turtles all the way down!
Smallbritguy
I came down here expecting this n found it. Yay. +1
LadyWidebottom
This was my favourite cartoon as a kid.
Keibrina
That rests on top of another earth that's round that's held by Atlas, as Apollo drags Sol around behind his chariot.
CorgiFloofs
The flat earth society has members all across the globe
BendyDicksCumOnMyBaps
You read my mind.
sideswipeBL
Say that again. Slowly.
WalkenComma
I especially like how this shows that Japanese planes couldn't have flown over land either.
KCMOFO
v
bkeljda
Ive watched this at least 6 times now .....thanks i guess
Stelmacki
In attempt to be funny, everyone forgets they had to use carriers.
FellhuhnCom
"flown". It is right there in the description.
Lemonsandwichs
Do you really want to fly over Africa with all of those diseases over there?
Tamaril
Better than going anywhere near australia
bumhand
There are tons of flatearthers all around the globe
Gormy0
Hehe xd
Incantanto
Great circles dude. The equator is loooooing vs the poles
alsoAzrael
That's not actually the reason for great circles.
Even though the shown one isn't the shortest, a straight line also isn't.
ThatgifwithaCat
Wake up PEOPLE!
DiceyBusiness
Or that the carriers they were based off couldn't sail around.
Tekhead
Or that aircraft carriers didn't exist.
BurnsDream
planes dont fly straight on a mercator projection, because its a globe, flying in a big ol curve makes for a straight flight in real life
although maybe not that big of a curve, but he has the right idea
Koolala
A fully armed fleet of bombers flying over your country tends to raise some eyebrows.
Capeetain
No bombers just attack planes with torpedos on the bottom
purpledevil2203
Or in the other direction.
reesareesa
Or stopped for fuel anywhere along the way
xDerfelCadarn
Aircraft carriers can't cross land... that's the only thing right in that theory.
Slartibartfast75
Well, I mean, they had no landing gear
laps22
Thats....thats the joke
spacerocks
Why do you think they call them flying fish?
YeetPirate
The flat Earth society has members around the globe
Peryton
Because if they flew over land we would have been warned about it. We were not warned, they couldn't fly over the sea only, ergo inside job.
SuperSaiyanEngineer
It's a shorter distance though? For real...
Snooj
They're planes, not cars.
Idiotcommentsforidiotpeopleaboutidiottasksonidiotthreadidiot
the earth is round, so i will overlook that in a sea of stupidity
LiterallyYourMom
Ahh yes, the fabled Japanese planeboat.
FirstDagger
Might want to try another joke next time, H8K flying boat
Yeah, but that one can fly over land.
... any aircraft can fly 'over' land.
Clearly you didn't see the picture above.
justadude41123
The floor is lava
grid10ck
Or the fact that they were carried on ships the majority of the way.
Orangeracecar
It saws a sneak attack..
GreenFox
not that far. that's why they have aircraft carriers. clearly!
Proboscidea4815162342
The line goes over land...
Textuality
That's because the Japaense are terraphobic. That's why the live on a small island!
CaptSheffield
Well Christmas, they would have been seen and it wouldn't have been a surprise attack. I swear, please or so dense sometimes.
Christ
And please is people. Love auto correct.
AutisticCat
. for later laughs
ARandomUsernameForSure
If they were trying to go unseen its semi logical
rouletto
I think it did fly over parts of Indonesia
ibespacejockey
They can't the land is blocking them..
iluvbunbuns
Yes, the land is very high and they can't fly on top of it.
eric42724
You can't in 1930 all countries signed the no fly zone treaty, meaning any plane caught flying over land was shot down
BloodmoneNL
I give you that.
Ssssssssssss
Hey, that technology wasn't made available until the 1960s and you know it. Stop bullying Japan's Airplanes D====
Briomancer
Well yeah, that's just science.
r0b0tc0rpse
It was a SNEAK attack, jack ass... flying over land would have given it away!
IHaveAPhrasalUserNameLikeThisOneCauseTheyAlwaysGetTheTopComment
I think that's the joke.
notthat1982
(The joke is that they just fly east a very short distance)
WurstKaeseSzenario
That was too risky because of the mine fields.
JetSetGo
wtfamIdoinghere000
The roads weren't paved for landing either
DavidCarrico1234567890
I hate you all.. +1
TheC0mpleteP0ems
I love you all +2
YouCaIIed
Hey how do you give 2 upvotes?
ghsdkgb
What do your fields have to do with it?
greylo
Technology has come so far...
ThrillNyeScienceGuy
Cursed with the Zoolander plague, can't go East
mrcalifornian
I'm not an ambi-turner :(
ggggggggkkkkkk
They'd fall right off the face of the earth
Damn solid logic sir, no wonder they didn't do that!
777Permission
Japanese planes are not ambiturners
It's because of that reason they lost the war, it's a misconception it was the atomic bomb. Little known fact.
ThyDevilsAdvocate
They would've violated air space and ruined their surprise attack. Had to be over ocean. Duh
kibateo
also like 20 countries would have shot it down assuming it was an enemy attack
See someone is thinking! Good job man!
LordoftheLulz
Damn you and your logic!
It's like a lot of people don't even think!
mailman7777777
Well they didn't have to paint red meatballs on their planes.
Bitchnom
Akchualy those weren't meatballs, they were rice balls known as dongos that were dipped in the blood of American virgins
taimaster
Thats because the blue stuff is the sky.
Cereaza
No No, guys. The blue part is obviously the land.
AManWoman
I don't think ppl realize this is a reference?
The number of times I've been downvoted because people don't get very obvious references is killing my soul.
DemandtoSeeLifesManager
Gave you a couple of lifeline upvotes for the solid Buster reference. Just started showing the series to my wife yesterday!
frassep
Comment of the day
One of the best comments I've seen on Imgur this year.
Thank you
killrbee
The yellow ones the sun!!
imwithcayde6andproud
Frederf
Rammer1813
*crippling panic attack*
LemonStarbursts
I love you
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
I love you too
EasilyButthurtCitizen
This is so beautiful.
TumblrFeminist
You are
now kith
Mariostar7
Fight fight fight! Kiss kiss kiss!
BeverleyMacker
Pearl Harbor ACTUALLY COULD HAVE melted steel beams.
Demauscian
Bitch, have you never played Pac-Man? When you reach the edge of the world you teleport to the other side.
PeopleSeemToHaveLongNamesOnImgur
I was gonna say the same thing. Pac Man goes all the way right he ends up left. Same with Japanese Planes.
RileyBanned
1931
dolphindreamsandsatan
Hey... What's ten years give or take
jelliclescanandjelliclesdo
1931... a year that will live in infamy.
HunteramongPrey
Someone out there actually believes this.
GeorgeGrimaldo
I do, they are sneakybastards them Nazis, they found a way!
ArtArchive
For every single idea, there's someone out there that actually believes it.
Stache13081
Some ONE??!! There are TWO's of us! TWO's I say!
harbingerjo
This confirms it. A future traveler went back to 1931 Japan and gave them portal technology so they can...wait whuuutt???
stabbedintheface
You forgot the obligatory "Educate yourself" comment
BlownByTheMonsignor
http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/wake_up_sheeple.png
Drosophilamelanobastard
Sake can't steel boats.
Fropps
Melt
points
GET. OUT.
TheRedBaKon
HelpMeAnakinTheJediAreTakingOUVAH
It can steel the resolve of the men on those boats though
WhiterunWarriorProject
And lead men to steal boats.
slagath0r
Hahahaahhaaa
iamatiger
The word retard makes me laugh.
SharkyTheDog
Ken M? Is that you?
CaptainGoomba
Lol +1
MrsQuill
That one person who starts 10 years early so they don't have to ask for directions.
Evaldas
You've the wrong map
noodlemcb
Love!!
derringermeryl
This is stressing me out.
PastureofMuppets
thats neat.
basketball523
I may be high, but that looks like Phil from Hercules giving em the bird
bbbenni
Bush did Pearl Harbor!
tippytruck
Prescott Bush probably did do Pearl Harbor. It's obviously a family tradition.
yellowtechno
MrtheOffender
guys Guys GUYS, what if they government conspiracy about 9 11..... IS a government conspiracy! dun dun duuunnnnnn
diontheunstable
Honestly? That one I'd believe. Good misdirection tactic, making "nutters" look even nuttier.
ExcuseMe2
Got some facts, then?
MrtheOffender
Nope, just a south park episode
PutrescentTumescence
This nonsense brought to you by Ken M.
TheOfficialHillaryClinton
Japanese planes made in 1941 couldn't have been flown in 1931
killswich7277
Even though this is a joke (I hope!) I feel my brain cells just quitting life
GeorgeGrimaldo
If your hoping it its a joke ur brains cells r dead
Tribalflex
I love when someone insults me just before trying to explain something
jjakubik11
Why did you bring this cancer here?
MizKriss
They did, but it took them 10 years to get there.
mossysabertoothtiger
It was Chicken and Cow
HechoInYaBootyco
Fuck you wharue anda fuck you dolpheen!
HapilyDamaged
or was it dorphin and awhale?
angiemorris
nah dog and cat
Corgilicioussterlingarcher
Thanks Obama
twfeline
Too soon, man.
GeorgeOHagan
There must be a position for Caleb in the trump administration!
Lungsforsale
Soon as I see the word sheeple I know I'm about too gain some serious factual knowledge
diontheunstable
There are better ways to get your point seen/heard and believed than insulting your target audience. Why has nobody realized this?
Genini
I was doubtful, but you used the word sheeple so it's a fact.
gostoso666
In 1931 they probably couldn't have.
IJustLikeToArgue
It took them 10 years to reach Hawaii.
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HottRod
That's the kicker!
CyborgScribe
The whistling sound just now was the joke flying by.
[deleted]
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CatBlaster5000
I know what you meant, I'm trying to help you out here.
CatBlaster5000
Are you referring particularly to aircrafts, or boats? Because if it's boats, it doesn't apply. Pearl Harbor, as you know, was an air raid.
ItzPerfection
Yeah look at you trying to do it right now
CatBlaster5000
And the implication the man made, that your implying is pompous, is that planes weren't operable.
Potatopinup
It took your comment for me to realise he'd put 1931... this joke has so many layers!
focusundrunkes
So in ten years things changed to where we thought hey let's obliterate for that and 4 years later we did.
DrunkGermanGuy
This also obviously isn't a 1930's/1940's map.
hardytardigrade
And it took your reply for me to realize it. My brain has so many stupids
RockTheCatBox
"So many stupids"....I love this and I am going to use it.
DrunkSnowWhite
And I still don't get it
SoDaSexy
Pearl Harbor happened December 7, 1941 ;)
DrunkSnowWhite
This is why I should have taken history. Stay in school kids.
BritishApe
Tbf I think a modern plane nowadays would struggle to fly that distance in one go
shinagami091
There was a solar plane that flew around the world non stop wasn't there? It was unmanned I think though
CorgisAreMyThing
Amelia Airheart tried but we see how that ended(she made pit stops)
blunte
Without mid air refueling or a specially built systems, no. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rutan_Voyager this plane did it though.
downvotersarejusthipsterswhoneedahug
What a great read! Thank you:)
ErinFromTheOffice
That flew along a great circle which is likely a lot shorter than this distance.
DeathStarWasAnInsideJob
In all seriousness it was pretty impressive that Japan managed to sneak a whole carrier strike fleet within 300 miles of Hawaii
SeattleSurfEscapes
Limited radar technology, the Army only operating the radar stations for two hours a day, + a storm front moving toward Hawaii def helped
JessieJanson
They didn't sneak it, our govt was told in advance but chose to let it happen because the US citizens didn't think it was their fight. 1/2
JessieJanson
as a result of the attack the us citizens demanded the war rather then having to be convinced(which wasn't working). There is also rumor 2/3
JessieJanson
that the radar station was down for maintenance or that the warning/fax wasn't seen.
wabash9000
I've heard theories that we knew about it but needed a reason to get into war in Europe, so we just let it happen.
HereToKickAssAndChewGum
The American involvement in Europe was because Hitler declared war on the US. German and American ships had been sinking each other b4 then.
wabash9000
Yes, but our involvement was limited to supplies and defending supplies. We needed a push to sway public opinion away from isolationism.
HereToKickAssAndChewGum
But declaring war on Japan didn't change that. But Hitler honoured the Axis treaty and that got the US into Europe. Youdonefuckedupnow.gif
HereToKickAssAndChewGum
Hitler that is, not you specifically
IAmHollyw00d
They knew the fleet had been deployed, just thought the target was the Dutch East Indies
Taihennami
To be fair, that was *also* true.
KerbalSlamIntoTheGroundProgram
which is why the dutch built the vessel Tromp
rrlyrae
and japan did, in fact, attack the phillipines a few hours later.
aboxacaraflatafan
IMB4 ninja jokes?
krenshala
How do you know the ninja jokes aren't here already?!
krenshala
How do you know the ninja jokes aren't here already?!
Feanor19
IIRC the guy that planned the attack was the same one who warned his government about 'waking the sleeping beast'. He was anti war with US
Lasre15
Don't forget Billy Mitchell. He predicted the attack in the 1930's
Feanor19
Yamamoto. Fascinating guy and a brilliant military tactician
JoeinCanada
RADAR was in its early stages and nobody was expecting it so no patrols. Frankly the Japanese were surprised themselves at their success.
DavidBrooker
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEjgqJzCzK0
ErinFromTheOffice
"It actually worked? IMPOSSIBRU"
saccharin
bombers coming in because they were expected at some point. I forgot the details, but they thought it was US planes, basically 2/2.
saccharin
I was at Pearl Harbor earlier this year. Apparently someone did see the squadron of planes, but they thought it was some American 1/2
GuardsmanMiku
I was gonna correct you and say radar didn't exist at all at the start of the war, but I forgot how late America actually joined
JoeinCanada
There was RADAR at Pearl Harbour, but the size of the fleet indicated by the signal made the operators think the equipment was not working.
JoeinCanada
They basically went "that can't be right" and ignored what they were seeing on the scope and didn't report it to the base commander.
JoeinCanada
The British began the CHAIN home RADAR system in 1936 and covered all of the UK by 1940. Gave them the big edge in the Battle of Britain.
GuardsmanMiku
ahh, well i just got schooled i guess
RockerFoxes
I think the "Oh god, we fucked up" moment came when they realized just how fast the US got their fleet back together afterwards.
JoeinCanada
Frankly Japan was hoping that the strong isolationist movement in the US would keep the US from retaliating; that proved to be very wrong.
malachitedragon
It didn't help them any that they were hoping to fuck up some of our carriers, NONE of which were in port at the time.
squirrelfartsy
Part of that happened to be the luck that the US carriers were all at sea at the time, rather than destroyed at Pearl.
PwnageHobo
Well it makes about as much sense as any other conspiracy theory I've heard
GuyFieriIsMySpiritAnimal
911 WAS AN INSIDE JOB WAKE UP PEOPLE
MouseTheFooDog
Bro I need to tell you about a real suspicious pizza place
escalinci
And her charity took donations from qatar something something clinton founded ISIS?
putinmybutt
You'd be surprised how many of these theory turn out to be true after many years of speculation.
andyonetime
I wouldn't be suprised. The number is very low. Especially considering how many truly outlandish theories there are.
NotWhatYouPlanted
But you do get that they could have just flown toward the east, right? The joke is that they're circumnavigating the globe for no reason.
PwnageHobo
In the same way that jet fuel wouldn't need to actually melt steel beams to bring down a skyscraper.
ravenforthekell
The thing about conspiracy theories is that they're happening all the time. The water you drink is being made a commercial commodity was 1/?
ravenforthekell
once a conspiracy theory and is being attempted by Nestle. The US going into Iraq for shady shit was a conspiracy and is now considered 2/?
ravenforthekell
a fact by most. Something being labeled a conspiracy doesn't make it a crackpot theory, even though politicians spout it when talking 3/4
altfiction
that's because the word "conspiracy" has been associated with "wearing tin foil hats" and such by many people, taking it's power away. 1/2
altfiction
..use the word "conspire", sits better with sheeple.
ravenforthekell
about global warming. 4/4
AmazinglyCoolNameHere
Even a broken clock is right twice a day. The latter is still a lot of guesswork. And what are you talking about with Nestle?
PwnageHobo
You don't get any marks if you don't show your work. You may end up being correct, but you're never actually right.
Wimpymind
http://www.businessinsider.com/5-conspiracy-theories-that-turned-out-to-be-true-2015-6?r=US&IR=T&IR=T
FajitaPrinceofAllMexicans
Business Insider I get that you don't like me using adblocker but this is kind of information you shouldn't block over it.
TheDarkLordOfTrees
It's a conspiracy
xzhous
What if this BI article is created by a conspiracy theorist who wanted to legitimize conspiracy theories? Where is your god now?
Wimpymind
serious answer to your unserious question: Plenty of other sources for those. Such as declassified docs released under foia requests.
Lefty2k59
But jet fuel can't melt steel beams.
PiffTheMagicDildo
Jet beams can't melt steel fuel
Polarisesque
Jet fuel can make dank meme!
SchrodingerMil
"No but it can severely weaken them" - tour guide at the 9-11 museum.
kamosey
And yet some turn out to be true.
AmazinglyCoolNameHere
Even a broken clock is right twice a day.
TimTheEnchanter01
Generally not the ones that violate basic scientific principles though.
kamosey
Like religion.
DynamoGurkin
Like lizard people
polymetricr
It sounds like you meant the lizard people is a scientific principle
MyRabbitIsAVegan
@JenniferLawrenceIsALizardPerson
DustyBin
...and they couldn't have gone the other way 'cause they'd have fallen off the edge of the world.
TacticalSergeant
Trassation
They could if you turn on the "donut world" setting.
JustHereForTopComment
That's the joke.
PietroAretino
that doesn't make sense, they could have just flown around the big gap
oxca182
But they would've been discovered
PietroAretino
Theres no sattelites orbiting the nothingness after the edge of the flat planet. They could have flown beneath, you know like paper.
NobodyExpectsTheSpanishInquistion
No cause planes fly so they would have just flown into space and got lost.
DustyBin
I was thinking more about the use of aircraft carriers!
NobodyExpectsTheSpanishInquistion
No cause they can just put the aircraft carrier on top of the planes and then have a aircraft carrier carrier.
Digicat
Duh
ImAFoxButNotReally
Japan was an advanced country that discovered how to fold time and space. The didn't have to travel.
Zcarsnarl
Flat Earth best Earth
manupug
flat earth?
StunnedGoofy
offendineveryway
Yep its flat and enclosed in a dome--YouTube told me so
Polarisesque
There's also a hole in the middle where the nazis and dinosaurs live.
TorchicTheCanibalHobo
Yeah we at the flat earth society have members all around the globe
TorchicTheCanibalHobo
.... Wait
dante1120
Say that again... slowly.
cousteau
Those people say it's a disc with the North pole in the middle though, so the left/right edges wouldn't exist.
Ishouldhavecalledinsicktoday
I thought this was a joke, but someone over the holidays spent an hour trying to get me to see how the earth is flat... I was shocked.
Teatimebeforecolonizetime
ah happend to me, i just laughing, when she ask what so funny i said nothing and just listening with confused smile.
Teatimebeforecolonizetime
welp never ask for advice to her.
ArvisJaggamar
Was it someone you formerly respected? I had that happen. Really messed me up for several weeks.
Ishouldhavecalledinsicktoday
No thank goodness. There's always some kind of hope someone's not a complete idiot though, there isn't any way to come back from that one.
Xhael
This happened to me recently also. Spent weeks showing my friend how mathematically and physically impossible it is. wound up 1/
Xhael
ruining the friendship....
Grudgebearingmidget
Trust me, if you trying to prove a fact mankind has established for over 2000 years, ruined the friendship, you're better off without 'm.
peridotstar
Man that is utterly fucked.
tootiredtosleeptootiredtonotsleep
Offcourse, since the earth is flat
privatepublic
I actually have a cousin who is a flat earther. He also believes zika was developed by bill gates and that Sandy Hook vics were child actors
oBusk
Flat earthers actually think the earth is a disc with the north pole in the center. That way you can go 'around'. It's retarded
DustyBin
and sits on the back of 4 elephants who stand on a giant turtle
KLUSTENATOR
Turtles all the way down!
Smallbritguy
I came down here expecting this n found it. Yay. +1
LadyWidebottom
This was my favourite cartoon as a kid.
Keibrina
That rests on top of another earth that's round that's held by Atlas, as Apollo drags Sol around behind his chariot.
CorgiFloofs
The flat earth society has members all across the globe
BendyDicksCumOnMyBaps
You read my mind.
sideswipeBL
Say that again. Slowly.
WalkenComma
I especially like how this shows that Japanese planes couldn't have flown over land either.
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KCMOFO
bkeljda
Ive watched this at least 6 times now .....thanks i guess
Stelmacki
In attempt to be funny, everyone forgets they had to use carriers.
FellhuhnCom
"flown". It is right there in the description.
Lemonsandwichs
Do you really want to fly over Africa with all of those diseases over there?
Tamaril
Better than going anywhere near australia
bumhand
There are tons of flatearthers all around the globe
Gormy0
Hehe xd
Incantanto
Great circles dude. The equator is loooooing vs the poles
alsoAzrael
That's not actually the reason for great circles.
FellhuhnCom
Even though the shown one isn't the shortest, a straight line also isn't.
ThatgifwithaCat
Wake up PEOPLE!
DiceyBusiness
Or that the carriers they were based off couldn't sail around.
Tekhead
Or that aircraft carriers didn't exist.
BurnsDream
planes dont fly straight on a mercator projection, because its a globe, flying in a big ol curve makes for a straight flight in real life
BurnsDream
although maybe not that big of a curve, but he has the right idea
Koolala
A fully armed fleet of bombers flying over your country tends to raise some eyebrows.
Capeetain
No bombers just attack planes with torpedos on the bottom
purpledevil2203
Or in the other direction.
reesareesa
Or stopped for fuel anywhere along the way
xDerfelCadarn
Aircraft carriers can't cross land... that's the only thing right in that theory.
Slartibartfast75
Well, I mean, they had no landing gear
laps22
Thats....thats the joke
spacerocks
Why do you think they call them flying fish?
YeetPirate
The flat Earth society has members around the globe
Peryton
Because if they flew over land we would have been warned about it. We were not warned, they couldn't fly over the sea only, ergo inside job.
SuperSaiyanEngineer
It's a shorter distance though? For real...
Snooj
They're planes, not cars.
Idiotcommentsforidiotpeopleaboutidiottasksonidiotthreadidiot
the earth is round, so i will overlook that in a sea of stupidity
LiterallyYourMom
Ahh yes, the fabled Japanese planeboat.
FirstDagger
Might want to try another joke next time, H8K flying boat
LiterallyYourMom
Yeah, but that one can fly over land.
FirstDagger
... any aircraft can fly 'over' land.
LiterallyYourMom
Clearly you didn't see the picture above.
justadude41123
The floor is lava
grid10ck
Or the fact that they were carried on ships the majority of the way.
Orangeracecar
It saws a sneak attack..
GreenFox
not that far. that's why they have aircraft carriers. clearly!
Proboscidea4815162342
The line goes over land...
Textuality
That's because the Japaense are terraphobic. That's why the live on a small island!
CaptSheffield
Well Christmas, they would have been seen and it wouldn't have been a surprise attack. I swear, please or so dense sometimes.
CaptSheffield
Christ
CaptSheffield
And please is people. Love auto correct.
AutisticCat
. for later laughs
ARandomUsernameForSure
If they were trying to go unseen its semi logical
rouletto
I think it did fly over parts of Indonesia
ibespacejockey
They can't the land is blocking them..
iluvbunbuns
Yes, the land is very high and they can't fly on top of it.
eric42724
You can't in 1930 all countries signed the no fly zone treaty, meaning any plane caught flying over land was shot down
BloodmoneNL
I give you that.
Ssssssssssss
Hey, that technology wasn't made available until the 1960s and you know it. Stop bullying Japan's Airplanes D====
Briomancer
Well yeah, that's just science.
r0b0tc0rpse
It was a SNEAK attack, jack ass... flying over land would have given it away!
IHaveAPhrasalUserNameLikeThisOneCauseTheyAlwaysGetTheTopComment
I think that's the joke.
notthat1982
(The joke is that they just fly east a very short distance)
WurstKaeseSzenario
That was too risky because of the mine fields.
JetSetGo
wtfamIdoinghere000
The roads weren't paved for landing either
DavidCarrico1234567890
I hate you all.. +1
TheC0mpleteP0ems
I love you all +2
YouCaIIed
Hey how do you give 2 upvotes?
ghsdkgb
What do your fields have to do with it?
greylo
Technology has come so far...
ThrillNyeScienceGuy
Cursed with the Zoolander plague, can't go East
mrcalifornian
I'm not an ambi-turner :(
ggggggggkkkkkk
They'd fall right off the face of the earth
ThrillNyeScienceGuy
Damn solid logic sir, no wonder they didn't do that!
mrcalifornian
I'm not an ambi-turner :(
777Permission
Japanese planes are not ambiturners
ThrillNyeScienceGuy
It's because of that reason they lost the war, it's a misconception it was the atomic bomb. Little known fact.
ThyDevilsAdvocate
They would've violated air space and ruined their surprise attack. Had to be over ocean. Duh
kibateo
also like 20 countries would have shot it down assuming it was an enemy attack
ThyDevilsAdvocate
See someone is thinking! Good job man!
LordoftheLulz
Damn you and your logic!
ThyDevilsAdvocate
It's like a lot of people don't even think!
mailman7777777
Well they didn't have to paint red meatballs on their planes.
Bitchnom
Akchualy those weren't meatballs, they were rice balls known as dongos that were dipped in the blood of American virgins
taimaster
Thats because the blue stuff is the sky.
Cereaza
No No, guys. The blue part is obviously the land.
AManWoman
I don't think ppl realize this is a reference?
Cereaza
The number of times I've been downvoted because people don't get very obvious references is killing my soul.
DemandtoSeeLifesManager
Gave you a couple of lifeline upvotes for the solid Buster reference. Just started showing the series to my wife yesterday!
frassep
Comment of the day
iluvbunbuns
One of the best comments I've seen on Imgur this year.
taimaster
Thank you
killrbee
The yellow ones the sun!!
imwithcayde6andproud
Frederf
Rammer1813
*crippling panic attack*
LemonStarbursts
I love you
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taimaster
I love you too
EasilyButthurtCitizen
This is so beautiful.
TumblrFeminist
You are
GuardsmanMiku
now kith
Mariostar7
Fight fight fight! Kiss kiss kiss!