This is what happens when the city votes on something like mass surveillance at 11am on a random Thursday with the announcement board showing some random code phrase for what’s on the docket for the day.
People rebel.
“We gave you a chance to voice your opinion about is spending $10M on Flock Cameras at the meeting on Thursday at 11am. It was labeled, discussion about increasing squirrel count in Minecraft, but no one showed up. So we voted without you.”
Gotta pour cement or something down the pipe. Just cutting it down is an easy replacement. By making the underground conduit useless the whole thing needs to get dug up and redone.
they have similar shit in the UK; heros in teams of four arrive at an intesection in balaclavas, cut down the cameras, then scatter. Make it too expensive to keep repairing them, and make sure you get the cables when you cut them down. make it hard or impossible to repair them until the replacement budget is gone and they stop putting them back up
Yes! The UK Blade Runners. Recently saw some videos about them. Supposedly,at any given time, half the cameras in London have been cut down by them. We need a US chapter.
Anyone else remember Republicans crying and screaming about the nanny state, and how in the UK they have cameras everywhere and it's what the communists and democrats want to do to the US. I swear hypocrisy is a virtue to these people.
Fuck, I just got an irrational urge to do a huge media buyout (that I, obviously, cannot remotely afford) with that slogan. I want to see that plastered over the trains and on the fences of every construction site.
That poor innocent license plate reader. How will the police state recover? Let's send out the county APCs and riot geared SWAT members to protect these gilded surveyors. /s TOTALLY INNOCENT - Nothing nefarious going on with these cameras. It's not like they connect to bluetooth devices and listen in, to the point where you're constantly being monitored. No warrant needed. It's like Americans completely gave up on the 4th amendment.
We did. Read the 'Patriot' act of 2001. It had been written up as a fascist wet dream even before the airliners hit the towers so it was all ready to be voted on. It's used to seize drug money or just 'money' from immigrants with no bank accounts. It doesn't catch terrorists - foreign or domestic.
Might be the European in me but that just feels like a fucking waste of resources investigating that when they could go after drug pushers, drunk drivers or whatever instead.
I was curious and checked deflock.org about my area. Seems there's a lot of single cameras for the most part, but one intersection has like 6 cameras with 3 overlapping and 1 pointing to the other three. It's ridic.
That's the point. They want a mesh that will track anyone's movement in the network and send all that data to a datacenter to build a profile about you.
Is it a thing? Yes. Is it very useful as evidence? Not really. Several studies have indicated that it's not very reliable as evidence, since a person's gait can vary by a fair amount in slightly different circumstances (which is why something as small as a rock in your shoe can alter your gait substantially).
It's also only considered supportive evidence with low evidential value, so the only way it would likely make a difference is if there was already a fair bit of evidence against you. 1/2
I'd say you're more likely to be hindered by the discomfort of a rock in your shoe if you needed to flee on foot than you would be helped by the altered gait if you wound up on trial.
If you really want to go that route, go to a discount shoe store and get two identical pairs of shoes, with one that's a size or two bigger. Put a bulky insole pad or lift in one of the larger shoes, then wear that one and the normal shoe. Throws off the gait, probably to a larger degree, but isn't uncomfortable.
I appreciate that you're trying to be non-destructive and still get the job done, but I think this makes it far more likely to get yourself shot. Doubly so if you're not white. Most paintball guns don't look much like proper firearms, but then again, neither does a cell phone or a wallet. Some cops act in bad faith when they have any excuse to do so.
I'm in Texas. I think a white guy could probably take a bunch out, one at a time, slowly over months with long breaks between. Two could help break any patterns. Also our cops are really really dumb.
To further illustrate the point, you don’t even need to be holding something vaguely gun-shaped. Cops will shoot you because an acorn fell onto a car, for example.
And those cameras have GPS transmitters on battery, but a faraday cage is REALLY easy to make. Chop it down, chuck it in your cage, drive away. Wait a few days, salvage the parts, profit!
To be fair, they got him cause the same vehicle got seen *by all the cameras* in and around all the sites where one was cut down. The fact he took solar panels is just furthering evidence to be used against him.
And I say this to point out they have programs and models that can accurately show where you have been throughout their entire network and that the same car was seen close enough to each site was enough.
Which is terrifying cause they don't need a warrant for any of that info.
I think we’ll see some progress on this front. Supreme Court recently ruled that a warrant was needed to use gps tracking and fell under certain protections. It’s an interesting listen/read on the SCOTUS website.
They have trackers in a lot of their stuff, they can be removed and disabled, but it's kind of a pain, so it's better to just break as much as you can as fast as you can and move on.
Whatever you do, do not go and dump them in a dumpster, lake, or something, making it even more expensive for flock to repair and replace its equipment...
TotallyNotASerialKiller
I didn’t see a thing.
REOJackwagon
I'll be sure to reach out right away if I hear anything
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Iplaybadguys
Wish I had a cool hand luke gif of him taking down all the parking meters lol
SelfProclaimedExpertOfMostThings
Aren't all county sheriffs and their deputies craven?
kimwimgoddess
I think I saw Charlie Kirk in the area that day.
VindictiveBathToaster
This is what happens when the city votes on something like mass surveillance at 11am on a random Thursday with the announcement board showing some random code phrase for what’s on the docket for the day.
People rebel.
“We gave you a chance to voice your opinion about is spending $10M on Flock Cameras at the meeting on Thursday at 11am. It was labeled, discussion about increasing squirrel count in Minecraft, but no one showed up. So we voted without you.”
hotaru251
would be a shame if the camera was tied up in a faraday bag so no matter what no wireless connections function until its batteries died
NeverTrustThisNewInternetThingy
If you see a Flock in a hot car in summer please do not disturb as it needs the heat to regenerate it's energy to survive!
77hnx994wv10
I love how it’s called a “safety” camera. It should be called the flock municipal money maker and privacy invasion camera
sacrosanctt
Yeah but that's a mouthful. And their mouths are already full
CrisprCAS
DefinitelyaHumanNotanAlien
The fuckable man speaks the truth.
OliverClothesoff70
I will never not upvote this. Perfectly executed.
SeeJenJen
Nobody should do lots of things in this country right now.
slopwizard
Is that the name of the county or just a description of the deputies
butcherfan0301
Gotta pour cement or something down the pipe. Just cutting it down is an easy replacement. By making the underground conduit useless the whole thing needs to get dug up and redone.
straycatstrut
I'm guessing that's why they stole the camera
Ikwilstroopwaffels
In the words of Saruman; "Rip them all down!"
bad1080
it's resting!
PTKrieg
It's probably... pining for the fjords!
throwaway12345432
"Cost of the damage is still being determined" It's a fucking pole, you can get a price in under a minute.
Clockworkdancerobot
Nah, they just do that sometimes.
DasBeaker
It’s just taking a little nap.
GrimleyGraves
He's just pining for the fjords.
ananfro
Beautiful plumage
necessity
Flocks migrate South people, this is normal behavior for them. This is what happens when you stop funding the schools.
samanthadlcruz
looks like beaver damage to me...
BeTheMirage
The Canadians send their regards
samanthadlcruz
just take yer dang geese back!!!
BeTheMirage
We could air drop some wolves to get rid of them, but that might just feed the geese.
DrKonrad
Totally agree. Source: I am an expert.
williamtowel
Sometimes they take naps in special bags while they go on vacation. Kinda rude to not respect their privacy.
4Astaroth
The camera was just a bit tired and had to lay down. Nothing special.
OuchYoureonmyhair
It was very hot out and I understand the poles are made of wax and sometimes chocolate!
ispendtomuchtimehere
fuck you, flock
PunnyTiger
they have similar shit in the UK; heros in teams of four arrive at an intesection in balaclavas, cut down the cameras, then scatter. Make it too expensive to keep repairing them, and make sure you get the cables when you cut them down. make it hard or impossible to repair them until the replacement budget is gone and they stop putting them back up
theoxfordcomma
Good shout
JanglesPrime
Yes! The UK Blade Runners. Recently saw some videos about them. Supposedly,at any given time, half the cameras in London have been cut down by them. We need a US chapter.
OuchYoureonmyhair
Get them Deflock (.com) out of here!
likuidlightning
THEmichaelscarn12
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Currahee63
AdmiralButtStuff
Remember, Craven County residents: nobody likes a snitch.
lunasworld20185
Good. We don’t need constant monitoring, this is the United States not the CCP of china
cjandstuff
Anyone else remember Republicans crying and screaming about the nanny state, and how in the UK they have cameras everywhere and it's what the communists and democrats want to do to the US.
I swear hypocrisy is a virtue to these people.
spattr
Nobody sawed anything
SalmonTheWise
clonedeeznuts
Yup. Stop snitching.
gronzilla
"See something? Saw something."
dragoonwraith
Fuck, I just got an irrational urge to do a huge media buyout (that I, obviously, cannot remotely afford) with that slogan. I want to see that plastered over the trains and on the fences of every construction site.
spattr
RaVeNrcft
That poor innocent license plate reader. How will the police state recover? Let's send out the county APCs and riot geared SWAT members to protect these gilded surveyors. /s TOTALLY INNOCENT - Nothing nefarious going on with these cameras. It's not like they connect to bluetooth devices and listen in, to the point where you're constantly being monitored. No warrant needed. It's like Americans completely gave up on the 4th amendment.
sowhat4
We did. Read the 'Patriot' act of 2001. It had been written up as a fascist wet dream even before the airliners hit the towers so it was all ready to be voted on. It's used to seize drug money or just 'money' from immigrants with no bank accounts. It doesn't catch terrorists - foreign or domestic.
swedeonamoose
Might be the European in me but that just feels like a fucking waste of resources investigating that when they could go after drug pushers, drunk drivers or whatever instead.
RexFury
more pimps, more pushers
IlluminaBlade
It's mass surveillance, not crime prevention.
lonosham
The culture war/revenue opportunity is the actual reason
somebackup
welcome to acab, it's worldwide
samanthadlcruz
the CEO of flock said that "deflockme" was a "terrorist organization"... because apparently it's "Terrorism" when THEY are the ones being surveilled
MoopsyLD
these cameras are used under the guise of plate readers but are mostly used as spying tools and law enforcement have used them as stalking tools.
EndlingGer
Soon they put up Flock cameras to surveil the Flock cameras…
Rakoth
I was curious and checked deflock.org about my area. Seems there's a lot of single cameras for the most part, but one intersection has like 6 cameras with 3 overlapping and 1 pointing to the other three. It's ridic.
EndlingGer
Sorry, my mind blanked out for a moment at the “lot of single cameras in the area.”
RaVeNrcft
That's the point. They want a mesh that will track anyone's movement in the network and send all that data to a datacenter to build a profile about you.
Omnimorph2112
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
vurcease
Ah yes: the DoubleFlock.
thedtp
furrnandovalenzuela
MrNardtastic
Aim small, miss small.
jfalconic0
More historically accurate than The Patriot
Affray
He really did a lot of stuff that farted in the face of history to make cool action movies.
do7rkb5n
Shouldn't he be wearing a mask? You never know what you might catch
RatsLiveOnNoEvilStar
and put a rock in your shoe to throw of gait detectors
do7rkb5n
Uh, is that a thing???
Badprenup
Is it a thing? Yes. Is it very useful as evidence? Not really. Several studies have indicated that it's not very reliable as evidence, since a person's gait can vary by a fair amount in slightly different circumstances (which is why something as small as a rock in your shoe can alter your gait substantially).
It's also only considered supportive evidence with low evidential value, so the only way it would likely make a difference is if there was already a fair bit of evidence against you. 1/2
Badprenup
I'd say you're more likely to be hindered by the discomfort of a rock in your shoe if you needed to flee on foot than you would be helped by the altered gait if you wound up on trial.
If you really want to go that route, go to a discount shoe store and get two identical pairs of shoes, with one that's a size or two bigger. Put a bulky insole pad or lift in one of the larger shoes, then wear that one and the normal shoe. Throws off the gait, probably to a larger degree, but isn't uncomfortable.
UnprunedSynapses
I've been thinking about paint ball guns....
JonnyHeat
I appreciate that you're trying to be non-destructive and still get the job done, but I think this makes it far more likely to get yourself shot. Doubly so if you're not white. Most paintball guns don't look much like proper firearms, but then again, neither does a cell phone or a wallet. Some cops act in bad faith when they have any excuse to do so.
UnprunedSynapses
I'm in Texas. I think a white guy could probably take a bunch out, one at a time, slowly over months with long breaks between. Two could help break any patterns. Also our cops are really really dumb.
SomethingHorriblyInappropriate
To further illustrate the point, you don’t even need to be holding something vaguely gun-shaped. Cops will shoot you because an acorn fell onto a car, for example.
thedtp
foxpotate
I'm surprised nobody has started stealing the solar panels yet.
CelestialSea
And those cameras have GPS transmitters on battery, but a faraday cage is REALLY easy to make. Chop it down, chuck it in your cage, drive away. Wait a few days, salvage the parts, profit!
timbazi
it aint much but its honest work
Keenwa
Well that one air force guy did, to power his camping stuff. That's how they got him.
Lynkfox
To be fair, they got him cause the same vehicle got seen *by all the cameras* in and around all the sites where one was cut down. The fact he took solar panels is just furthering evidence to be used against him.
And I say this to point out they have programs and models that can accurately show where you have been throughout their entire network and that the same car was seen close enough to each site was enough.
Which is terrifying cause they don't need a warrant for any of that info.
amaihai
I think we’ll see some progress on this front. Supreme Court recently ruled that a warrant was needed to use gps tracking and fell under certain protections. It’s an interesting listen/read on the SCOTUS website.
somebackup
They have trackers in a lot of their stuff, they can be removed and disabled, but it's kind of a pain, so it's better to just break as much as you can as fast as you can and move on.
GeneralApathy
I think the people doing this want to send a message and make it clear that it's not about personal gain.
gearsmith
While I am in no means suggesting anything it should be noted that solar panels are easily damaged. Who knows, maybe the... impact... damaged them?
mjperk
Any idea what kind of power/current production ratings they have?
Halfwise
Take anything with you, then you have evidence they can find.
Sironagold
Hmm... Throw it through a recycling center?
JustAPileOfCats
Take only a sigh of relief, leave only wreckage.
MaterialisticWorm
Apparently they have limited battery life, so if you stick it ina. Faraday bag so it can't track you until its dead...
DrBlackJack
Whatever you do, do not go and dump them in a dumpster, lake, or something, making it even more expensive for flock to repair and replace its equipment...
DocWats
Fuck the government...but seriously dont dump stuff in streams or lakes. Its not fair to the environment that we're a police state
gronzilla
It's also extremely short-sighted if you are defending the rights of your local population
WhoDoesntLikeTacos
Please don't dump things in the lake.
BarryTheCyborg
Unless they have car batteries. Those get tossed in the ocean
gronzilla
No they don't. Behave.