Jul 26, 2020 2:01 PM
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complimentpin
Honestly I'd be unsurprised if the elected officlals are just kept alive forever from the blood of the young.
TheFrenchHenchman
We don't have any millennials articles stuff in france. Is it hence again another typically American bullshit?
idontknowmaybeno
Boomers running for offices in the year 2030.
LovesToSpooge517
There will almost certainly be boomer pols till 2040. Neil Gorsuch was 49 when appointed, looks like he could work another 30-40 years.
darkklad2000
"linear time" *laughs in timelord*
turnbud
wibbly wobbly timey wimey
WeatherWiz
Well there’s still baby boomers alive today who can run for Congress haha.
FlippingWhat
Term limits please.
AndyGlastonbury
Elect people based upon their education, moral compass, honestly, ability to express themselves, ideals, flexibility. Not on age, sex or etc
whatdidyoureallyexpect
Speaking strictly as a Boomer, YES!!!! More Millennials! As fucking many as possible! ALLLLL Millennials! Let’s barbecue all the incumbents!
Quomp
OK Boomer. I'm with you.
SpammaJamma
Nah, keep the guys who don't even understand how to use their phone. That makes more sense.
JoeSlice
But didn't they kind of invent the phones we have now?
ChimeraGryph01
Also don't understand digital storefronts or online data policiies
CurbYourClassWar
I dunno about you, but when I think futuristic utopia with Ubi, I think geriatric, selfish,bitter fuckwads with dementia is the way to go...
benjamindco24
My conservative friend hates millennials, immigrants, liberals, Muslims, Mexicans, gays, blacks. Pretty much everybody
DownvotesRmyBadgeUvadge
Somehow I think your conservative friend might disagree. I'm conservative, and while I hate SOME people who fall into those categories...
...I don't hate them BECAUSE of their category. I hate them because they are assholes.
theresgarlicinthatnebula
But does your hatred of individuals in these categories inspire you to punish the group they happen to belong to?
OGshogun
How long is the god damn bracket for millennials? Did we run out of nick names for newer generations?
People don't seem to know the distinction between Gen X, Millennial, or Gen Z
tarkus10
The big label I'd like to see is Honest. Republican, Democrat or Independent - we need to get money out of our political system.
getridofTheSeaword
Then you need to support candidate who want to overturn Citizens United.
Seanspeed
Well you're *definitely* never going to get that if you keep letting Republicans win.
rando84
Agree, though Republicans are the main impediment to overturning Citizens United.
kyle2086
I think registering to a party as a voter should be abolished.
Treblaine
It's not done in other democracies as far as I know, except for official paid party members.
Things change. I think we need an honest 2 party system. Agree that that is a long ways off...but...
lazysombrero
Yes.
agentcase
Yes, we need the old guard out and new, fresh ideas in touch with the world today to take charge.
SciFiGuy2018
Yes, these positions were not designed as careers.
Fokker45
So vote for the other guy.
Every time
Musamura0987
Considering some are getting into the thirties, and late 30's, I think it's time we started getting treated like adults already lol.
Maybe if you'd stop killing industries you might get a little respect!
Why are people calling for term limits? We have them. It is called VOTING. Vote for the other guy. Work for and support the other guy.
lostwalllet
the boomers aren't done ruining it yet.
ochermes28
Not like AOC.
EvilDeadTed
Too brown and female for you, hunh?
humaneffigy
She's really not that bad.
wadatahmydamie
She’s actually pretty good. There’s a reason she won her primary challenge by a landslide
mickison
SleepyFourEyes
It's like saying, 'this is a picture of me when I was younger'...
All pictures of you are when you were younger. You want to impress me, show me a picture of you when you're older.
JCBalance
Man lemme see that camera
nuajzeerp
Wrong question
deaddogsmuggler
Should we have more zoomer teenagers?
cyberghduck
Homer Simpson is 39, and that makes him a millenial.
Eleshar24
Jesus fuck :´-(
He’s 36. He was in 1989 and still is today.
Actually we are both wrong: «he was 34 in the early episodes, 36 in season four, 38 and 39 in season eight, and 40 in the eighteenth season»
I stopped at season 10, had a ridiculous obsession up to that point but I guess you are probably right.
sureasyourebornyourenevergoingtoseenounicorn
We need term limits, it’s nonsense that we have so many people who are so out of touch making all these big decisions
AskingTheRealQuestions
Or you know, just elect people who aren't out of touch. There are people who are out of touch in every age group. Term limits won't fix shit
No we need a better informed electorate and vote out some of the old drones. Don't blame them, blame us for keeping them.
Malsbury
What if people are doing a good job? Issue is people doing a bad job keep getting reelected. Elections are meant to cut out the bad people.
LawmanLata
They'll just cycle through the offices and get to lobbying faster.
IHuggedaCorgiToday
juts like senile 70+ presidents are put of touch
FetaForMoses
At least the current one is hiring his children /s
cormone
I think you just made the point!
Vivoloko
Whoever creates the rule for congress where we have no terms actually realize who the real people in control is.
We have voters to stupid or too lazy to vote them out. We have the power but don't use it properly.
Correct everyone is sitting there thinking electing a president changes anything but the real change comes within the fuckers in congress
RoombaTheAssaultVacuum
We HAVE congressional term limits. They are not enforced because of loopholes.
trapperjohnmd
Don’t worry they don’t make decisions. They just listen to their corporate sponsors and do whatever they’re told.
MendaxsTruth
Listen, they only just got their 8th heart replacement their still so full of life. They have easily another decade before they
Need their full body on hundred thousand dollar per day paid by taxpayer life saving equipment, how could you seriously think they dont have
Their youth still about them? Im sure by the time they are ready to leave they can just be heads in jars and keep ruling! /s i hope obvious
anotherhippynamedcosmicsomethingoranother
Carlin pretty much sums up the flawed reality of term limits. https://youtu.be/9etoocgcWm8
SooperStanky
Agreed.Maybe if term limited,the elected might make decisions based on what’s best for country rather than re-election and maintaining power
Dankking
But how will companies be able to not get caught paying off politicians if they keep changing
Alfadorfox
More than that, greater amount of time in office gives more time for young idealistic sorts to get swayed into corporate interests
You might start your career thinking yourself incorruptible, and twenty years later take lobbyist bribes without batting an eye.
DLTBGYDCU
AOC needs a term limit. Please!
superdupertrooper
Dont throw the good ones out though. Make elections more competitive and you get a better result
ShruggingAtlas
Pass. If you have a problem with the people that are actually up for reelection, wait until they don't even have to fake giving a shit.
shawnemack
How does term limits solve that issue? Constantly turning over congress only keeps inexperienced people in power and I’m not sure that helps
Younger people with a variety of jobs and backgrounds would help reflect more accurately on the population they’re making laws for. Remember
When all the old folk were doing a hearing with Zuckerberg and they didn’t understand anything about what he did or how to regulate it?
Term limits doesn’t guarantee you’ll get a younger person in office
BichesLoveMy120mmSabotPracticeRound
Or the Google guy. That was painful to watch.
atomiccheesegod
Yep McConnell has been in since 83, Feinstein is pushing 90 years old
JT1984
Didn't McConnell just finally get voted out though?
MyReferencesAreOutOfControl
Oh my God don't tease me. I must look into this.
OneBucPerson
No? He's up for re-election in November and his now opponent just won her primary somewhat recently to clinch the D nomination.
itsnotaraisin
Amy McGrath. She's badass.
daanibf79
Repeal the Permanent Apportionment Act if 1929. Drastically changes representation in Congress.
professionalConfirmologist
What's the TL;DR of this?
It capped house representation to 435 and increased Congress district size, and enabled gerrymandering. Smaller districts=more reps for
WalrusPhone
I thought I knew a fair amount about American politics but I'm amazed that Congress is so small.
Big states and cities with massive population. Our population keeps going up but we somehow have the same number of representatives.
With more urbanization, bigger congressional districts enables the minority to stifle progress and keeps misrepresentation alive.
nonCanadianGoose
The whole lobbying system is more of the problem. Cut the profits and ppl won’t camp so much
CoarseAndSalty
Removing the politicians corporations pay to build relationships with makes it much harder to lobby.
I agree it’s a huge issue, but it’s unlikely that career politicians who have been making millions off of lobbying will change the laws.
The right to petition the government is in the Constitution. It isn't all evil (though a lot is)
There’s a very big difference between petitioning the government and paying politicians to make laws
The definition of a circle jerk
Blimymyhat
Term limits are a sensible sounding but nonsense solution. Voting, we need citizens voting in primaries.
VinchVolt
Also ex post facto laws would exempt everyone who is currently in congress at the time a term limit law is established.
After all, Harry Truman in theory could’ve run for a third term because he was president when term limits for his position were established.
Term limits just increase campaigning, make voting records meaningless could strengthen to power of parties.
Strengthens lobbyists
godzilladc
Term limits were ruled unconstitutional by SCOTUS. An amendment is required.
Newlyof
People still keep think millennials are really young. A lot of them are in their late 30s and are considered old by Gen Z.
fraxinusoleaceae
People still talk about millennials like they're in uni. I'm not an old millennial and I *teach* uni.
Zoeofdoom
me too, but i’m 37. And my students totally make fun of me for being a Millenial, so got that going for me
bogus1983
A lot of millennials still feel like the 90's and 00's were ten years ago. Time is weird.
SisyphusLivinLife
Stop it.
Stop... time? That'd be a neat trick.
MarcusRiedner
Watching dementia set in right here in this thread. Both of you are too old for politics.
Err obviously they were only 8 years ago. I also know they weren't, but it makes me sad that they aren't. I'm a Gen X so easily hated
CandleToad
A lot of people mistake Gen Z for Millennials (Gen Y), and many complaining about millennials are probably millennials themselves.
linearcore
It doesn't help that the "millennial" label applies to people who grew up before computers had hard drives AND people who had iPhones in HS.
Yup. Quite a broad brush.
tinyfootprints
I'm completely confused. I know I'm a Boomer myself (1950) but I have no idea what other generations' date ranges are.
Each cohort tends to last ~15-20 years, but the dates aren't exact. Rough overview: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generation#Western_world
I *remember* the Soviet Union, and my colleagues in the "same generation" had Wikipedia in elementary school. TOTALLY the same childhood....
SmokyDoggg
Yeah well these stuffy old assholes obviously aren't getting the job done for me because I'm not a multimillion dollar pharmaceutical so...
SirBobby98121
Wrong - they ARE getting it done ... featherbedding their nest. You were expecting something else ?
macthelost
Andrew Yang. Don’t know why I said lee. That was a fuck up. My bad. And it was just a working title lol. He did say he was open to others.
This is why Lee’s “freedom dollars” plan was such a great idea. Every citizen gets like 100 of them to spend on whatever campaign or bill >
w0ntoan
Sounds great, but we'll get back to a different problem very quickly, judging by how its so easy to convince with some pandering to idiots.
Lobby they like. But as corps are “people” too each company only gets 100 to spend as well. So they can’t overwhelm even one citizen >
Just because they have more money to burn.
HorriblyPositive
Couldn't they just buy my freedom dollars, or run massive ad campaigns telling me how to spend them?
Nope. You only get what you get. It’s not even real money. Just a way to lobby and show support fairly
Can’t edit comments, but i meant Andrew Yang. My bad.
Variadicism
Yes! And he called those political funding $100's "Democracy Dollars"; the Freedom Dividend was his $1,000/mo UBI plan. #yanggang
There ya go. That’s what it actually is. Thanks for the fact check! It’s shit he didn’t keep running
I know, right? His is the only campaign I ever contributed to. It shut down a few days later. ?
RosencrantzNGuildensternNeverLived
Can we please, pleeeeease not call them freedom dollars? Aside from that, not a bad plan. Lee who is this?
Also they were called democracy dollars. I messed that up to. I’m messing up a lot today ?♂️
Lol. S’ok. Good correction.
Yang, Andrew yang. I fucked that up. Sorry guys.
Thank god, I found Lee. I mostly (but not entirely) hate him. I thought you might mean Yang.
It is yang. Thought it’s a moot point. He quit running
BanderasForScale
People will forever think millennial = young person in their early 20s
Vaanhalen
Just like anyone over 30 is derisively called a "boomer"
nosaucesbutapplesauces
For YEARS I thought millennials were those born in the new millennium and didn’t think of myself as one.
runscar
That's literally how it was first used when I heard it.
I graduated high school in 2000 and got a Millennial scholarship. So even back then, people used it for my generation.
ChaoZer0
I'm 20, I feel too old to classify with zoomers and too young to classify as millenial, it depends on what people's definitions are
Browsing4stuff
Aren’t the youngest millennials like 26 now?
Illsaysomethingjusttomakeyoumad
Millenials ruining the blame game! Taking tabloid journalism market to the brink!
shakeyerbonbonshakeyerbonbon
Right? People need to quit it...I'm old enough that I need to wake up and Bengay my entire body if I fall sleep in a funny position
RideTheStimutacs
Honestly though, it's a silly name for a generation that ended a few years before the actual millennium.
joca852
The idea is that we came of age around the turn of the millennium
aface62
Soon enough the saying will be "maybe not millennial", so watch your mouth!
StephenDaniels
Yes older people; but they are gonna die. To a 7 year old AOC is really, really old.
srsgiraffe
Hi, millenial here. I turned 30 in January.
PuncturedBag
Oh not forever, Hippie
TheYoungJaywalker
I’m gen Z and I’m turning 20 this tear
Year*
Golfbob
Gen Z! I’m 22.
mastodonj
I'm 36 and a millenial!
gregbillsy86
Fuckin millennial
AltF4EwingsSarcoma
At least in 5-10 years we can all start complaining about the covid generation. They're all socially inept and germiphobes.
BlancheTuttle
Damn Coronials
RedRumRex
“Generation SARS-CoV-2-D-19” ...catchy.
vingtvingt
Rona Babies
crann
Quarinteens
Which reminds me if you want a chuckle, check out the song “Quarantined” by Old Crow Medicine Show.
Tomadzo
Hard to think of myself as a Gen X at 50
OriginalSyn
Being GenX you should be used to people not thinking of you as anything.
Ouch...true, but ouch
Kind of goes with the territory when your whole thing is being disaffected and apathetic.
Being a latch key kid will do that to a person
Textuality
comacomacomacomachameleon
The oldest Millennials will be 40 soon. Even the youngest ones will be 30 in a few years.
Smartlinkseo
31 year old reporting for duty
Kalimitous
Millennial here ? 39 this year!
davehaze
NO!
Humanfrenchfry
Stop that
BrugerNavnHer
Yeah my thought.. 28 soon. Let me die or be rich!
No... Just die.
Frogchildren
*are 40 now
in70x
I’m 31
xJustAGuy
Shut up don't remind me
Imadethisaccounttopost
I just turned 40and am considered both a millenail and gen x. The dates are usually between 77 and 82 but always ends in 97
TheSiskoIsOfBajor
30 in less than a year!
DrunkenMarineBiologist
XdashXexclamationVapostropheapostrpheQ
I feel attacked.
TheAlbatrossFromTheMoon
STOP REMINDING ME THAT
FairColleen
A “young” millennial, reporting for duty. *salute*
GRA2itous
I’ll be 29 in October, thanks for reminding me.
Good month tho.. 28 for me.
nlghtmancometh
September here. 30 is so close. Fuck me I've gotta get my shit together.
Oh yeah, that thing.
dragonfliet
Stop calling me old.
Elcarsh
Okay gramps!
Old AND invalid for politics.
kwyjiboner
No, no that can't be right. *cries in 35*
CrazyBodyPilot
Yup - 32
milkmyrod
Quick, a millennial, get him!
NotaCPA
36 - yeah, it's right.
JanglesPrime
26 - I'm looking to destroy a few more industries before I get into politics. Practice makes perfect.
36 - Damn these lazy fingers!
speakeasiez
Almost 37 - who's cutting onions?
Fadetoblack021
......38, not feelin' great
*sobs in 38*
CarlosGonzales
Crying in 39 in two weeks
soon
There should be a mandatory retirement age for Congress. Corporations have them. That would ensure some fresh blood seeps in.
Popspoppingit
WTB congressional term limits
SamArt53
The oldest current Senator, Dianne Feinstein was 53 yo (in 1986) when she said Sen Alan Cranston, 72, a fit runner was TOO OLD to run again
for office. The hypocrite was the oldest sitting senator when she ran for office in 2018. She was 85. Reminds me of “Weekends at Bernies”
MrRandom314159
Actually they don't. It was sorta made illegal to force someone out due to their age a bit ago.
audioCandyMonster
Mitch McConnell and Nancy Pelosi do not approve this message
MaterNyx
I guess term limits more than retirement age. As long as you got, no problem. But term limits to help move out corrupted regularly and also>
Maybe limits for election campaign donations/lobbying would be cool.
dumberthanyouraveragebear
Given the Bernie sanders of the world vs the Tomi Lahrens...the fact that this comment got as much upvotes time downvoted, disturbs me.
ImADouchebag
The true solution to a corrupt congress is to reintroduce the FCC cross ownership rules of 1975 and repeal the Telecommunications Act of 96.
kruug
And a maximum election age. Can't be voted in unless you're over 35 and under 60 (or something like that).
TheBurritoConfederacy
Do this instead of retirement ages, that way a term doesn't get cut short and require a special (out-of-season) election for a successor.
theFinks
Seriously. How many congressmen do you think are as senile as the president? Memorizing 5 nouns doesn’t make you qualified either.
Bowjohbs
Yeah because we want our government to be just like a large corporation ?
sc363
Visceral description.
JamesSidhe
I’d love to see congressmen have to excuse themselves from voting on laws that affect large campaign donors(right now they are being bribed)
Vysard
Hah, assuming the elite will give up their positions of power and wealth willingly because of a little thing like age or dementia.
TheotherBudwhite
term limits is right
NateintheNorth
The corporations wanna get the most use out of their purchases, though.
RPCd
There are term limits just voters repeat their fails over and over again because they love familiar things.
NightfallEverdark
Term limits would accomplish much the same thing.
spermulator
60 and get the fuck out.
dougsfriendskeeter
Flesh blood of newly exploitable interests.
LazyBuddha
I would hope my generation would do a better job. Many people in Congress grew up in a very different world they millennials.
jinbee
Some of the best most honest people in politics are cantankerous old bastards who give zero shits about the party line...
...there's a few brilliant ones in the House of Lords who have graduated to elder statesmen & women and give their own party hell regularly.
dylanamanhouilhan
If anything I would require all politicians to already be retired. 65+. Leaves them a bit detached from everyday concerns like money
You arent going to be a lobbyist after 8 years ( a short career) if that means you are 73 min
SomeDetroitGuy
In the US, companies do NOT have mandatory retirement ages. That's been illegal since the 80s.
greentights
Maybe not on paper, but they are the first to go in a layoff cuz they cost too much. And it's hardest to find a job when you're 50+
https://strategichrinc.com/mandatory-retirement-guidelines/
https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2016/12/13/exxonmobil-weighs-ceo-transition-after-trumps-rex-tillerson-nomination/95367822/
FortressCraft
The phrase 'mandatory guideline' is a fascinating oxymoron.
ProfessorPritt
Options: term limits, reset the government every 250 years with civil war, elect people as they come of age for public service
WaxDragon
Or y'know, just a term limit
JaxJamesTheTenaciousTurtle
I dunno man, since when is old = corrupt/bad leader/whatever? Isn't wisdom acquired by age etc.
legup2p
term limits, indeed ... and a mandatory retirement age for the supreme court!
Why? That assumes age equates incompetence. The problem in US politics is not age. It is a refusal to abandon 2 party voting and lobbyists.
Armored0Titan0
It equates to disconnection from the needs of the general populace.
PastureofMuppets
I think a bigger disconnect is wealth and wealth security, not age.
And which age bracket is wealth concentrated in?
EyeSpyABreathtakingPerson
Sometimes. There are old people in the general populace though. Most of the politicians any more were never part of it to begin with.
Lynkfox
What would work is a statistical analysis of the population and the need for the same ratio in Congress (at least the house)
20% 18-25. 35%25-35 in your state? Then as close as possible you should have 1/5th of your reps be 18-25 and about a 3rd be 25-35
Old people are part of the general population
Bmxrider70763
The world has changed so much in even the last 20 years. The older you are the harder it is to keep up with those changes.
Pancakes9000
That hysteresis isn’t necessarily a bad thing.
Representation is supposed to be the best of us---so, people who aren't out of touch. That comes down to the voter's responsibility.
ORLY? I am into the 40+ age group and am starting a graduate degree with plans to move to a doctorate. I have a solid grasp of tech and
OhNoDontTouch
there is BIG difference between 40+ and 65+
I had a 104 year old great great aunt learn page layout and online research. But she doesn't count because she was old.
social issues, and find it is no trouble to adjust to new tools and knowledge. But I guess because I hot an age bracket I am invalid.
nothingIsSomethingBecauseItCantBeNothingSoItHasToBeSomething
Congrats on being an outlier. This is anecdotal, one data point, not a good sample size. I'm proud of you for being aware and capable though
montyman185
The problem is though, the current leadership isn't the 40+ age bracket, it's the 70+. At the very least, forcing the old out would cycle in
drunkpanther
The longer you hold the seat, the more statistically likely you are to become corrupt. It’s also a matter of representation.
twelveythesecond
Couldn’t agree more. I’d like to think that at least a few current “career politicians” started out with good intentions, gave in over time
Fargus57
Could you please post a source or corroborating study for your claim regarding corruption. I couldn't find anything confirming it.
I am unsure if there was a study, but it is a matter of probability. If everyday there is, let’s say, a 1/100 chance of a seat holder 1/?
Perfoming an act of corruption (as small as a favor, or as big as a bribe); the probability that it won’t happen decreases every day. 2/?
allmostthere1234
It's all over Facebook I'm sure so it HAS to be true. /s
manofthewest1993
Eat ass retard.
Oddly the GOP is on average younger than the DEMs. But the DEMs have a wider age gap (more young, more old).
OtterlyMagnificent
And on average the GOP is less corrupt too.
Nobody7713
The GOP have a huge cohort in their 40s and 50s. Think like Paul Ryan clones.
Exactly. And a lot of that younger cohort are batshit crazy in my opinion. But I guess they are younger, so better?
swellerelk
The only way to solve it is to make it illegal to recieve any contributions and make their pay equal the median of the area they represent.
How would pay make a difference? Many Senators and quite a few Reps are privately wealthy. Pay isn't a motivator for them.
That plus ranked choice, but it'll never happen. We can't even get half the population to vote.
Senators make less than new grads from top law schools. Their staffs are paid at a fixed % and it is so low only rich kids & new grads do it
Staff members are supposed to be experts in their field but get paid a fraction of what they can make elsewhere. Rich kids are everywhere
But then the politicians get bribe-money from lobbyists that makes up for it.
The lobbyist money is for campaigns. Fix financing and you remove that incentive. Still need to stop sketchy investment loopholes though...
Also...look at how well societies do when it’s mainly youth running them (pro tip...not well at all)
deekermans31415
Which ones are you talking about? There's a couple rather young PM's currently doing rather well by most accounts.
Politics is a game of time. Most politicians are praised in their beginnings, only to have problems in the future or uncovered. All babies
Are innocent until they start living
Also I refer to countless Roman historical cases, Khmer Rouge, the Chinese revolution, Iranian revolution, countless African countries
Cautionary tales from Roman and greek examples among several absolute monarchs would have stood out for founding fathers when they put min
Age for positions.
There a difference between wanting youth politicians and wanting politicians who aren't geriatric.
Unfortunately this is part and parcel with democracy and a large demographic that’s getting older. But fret not, they’ll die within a ...
Generation and others will take over. This is the natural ebb and flow of democracy, sometimes you get people you don’t want. If we always
Got who we wanted, we’d be in a dictatorship and we’d be the oppressors. Back and forth is good.
There is value in age and wisdom. You become an expert over time and practice.
And calm emotions. There is a place for both. Youth and age.
Totes ma goats.
FlyingButtPliers
If politicians couldn't work past age 65, no Biden, no Trump, no Barr, no Pelosi, no McConnell.
DeepBeyondBelief
Amen to that brother
Neotrup
Why would that stop Trump? Has he worked yet?
maracucho
Also no Bernie Sanders. Everybody wins. Then we can start disliking new politicians
Anikanje
No problem!
Kimona007
Goosebumps-- the idea is so simple and cold. I love it
bamcobra
I would give up Biden and Pelosi to be rid of the others you mention.
DogSocks
No John Lewis for the last 15 years
My point is that you would remove a lot of competent representatives as well.
We might lose SOME competent representatives, but in exchange, we'd purge the supermajority of incompetence.
ThisGuyPostingThings
Not exactly. You're assuming their replacements would be better, but given the quality of some younger representatives, it's unlikely.
OldSwedishGrandma
Win, win, win, win, win!
cuterthanyoursister
You say that like it's a bad thing.
I didn't indicate an opinion, you filled that in on your own. Interesting to see the same sentence interpreted opposite ways though.
tangybreath
Ok sure. Wheres the downside? Im sick and tired of 80yos making rules like their almost-dead-self is gonna have to suffer the consequences
scJazz
They make the decisions so that their 60 yro kids can matter.
phobos535
You say that like they are working now...
No Sanders.
Kronzor
We wouldn’t need a sanders if the younger people actually had a say in political decision making.
BallsackHippo
Geatz is among those younger people. Just sayin'.
flibbertigibbet
He's not a people
I agree with his policy, but I certainly wouldn't mind if he retired.
whooptydoo
Hes lost a lot of respect from me anyway. He was always so consistent, then presidential race comes around and he tries to be buddy buddy
With the establishment
Blud4BludGod
I have a lot of confidence that if he'd taken the nomination/election, he'd still have consistently fucked the establishment.
Camelspotting
Because he's not an idiot.
Acrage
Wow that all sounds wonderful
Most likely all of them are replaced with a younger equivalent
WolfRexV3
Sadly no Bernie, but he'd definitely be a good influencer
GalaxyPatrol
Now I’m picturing Bernie posting butt pics in front of a nice landscape on insta
drunkbs
Exactly, because unlike the corporate Dems and the GOP, he represents an ideology to better citizens, not self interest.
NotTheRealMeNow
I really want Bernie on IG drinking a mojito in Bermuda now. I’d simp for our socialist hunk
narniasreal
Him taking work out photos that are primarily focused on his ass in booty shorts.
Assholes come in all ages
Babaloga
But Neuroplasticity is conclusively shown to decrease with age. Very old politicians likely have trouble keeping up with changing times.
IlluminaBlade
But enough about Epstein.
kaymon
JustAPileOfCats
Paul Ryan, Rand Paul, Tom Cotton
PhillerTheThriller
All young, stupid assholes
v
True, but I think people who have to live longer with the outcomes of their decisions might make different / better choices.
beepboopskiddlydoop
What makes you think the people in power (and usually rich) have to live with the outcomes of a lot of these decisions?
TheSSMorgan2015
Except that the people making the decisions arent negatively impacted by the results. Only the poor working class sees the negative results.
AShartInTheWind
Partially true, people actively in congress are even less affected by their decisions, but if they know they'll actually be living in the --
They are in a different wealth class---they do not live with their consequences regardless of age.
Ding ding ding! We have a winner!
The older they get the more out off touch they get with the way the world is going
That is BS.
complimentpin
Honestly I'd be unsurprised if the elected officlals are just kept alive forever from the blood of the young.
TheFrenchHenchman
We don't have any millennials articles stuff in france. Is it hence again another typically American bullshit?
idontknowmaybeno
Boomers running for offices in the year 2030.
LovesToSpooge517
There will almost certainly be boomer pols till 2040. Neil Gorsuch was 49 when appointed, looks like he could work another 30-40 years.
darkklad2000
"linear time" *laughs in timelord*
turnbud
wibbly wobbly timey wimey
WeatherWiz
Well there’s still baby boomers alive today who can run for Congress haha.
FlippingWhat
Term limits please.
AndyGlastonbury
Elect people based upon their education, moral compass, honestly, ability to express themselves, ideals, flexibility. Not on age, sex or etc
whatdidyoureallyexpect
Speaking strictly as a Boomer, YES!!!! More Millennials! As fucking many as possible! ALLLLL Millennials! Let’s barbecue all the incumbents!
Quomp
OK Boomer. I'm with you.
SpammaJamma
Nah, keep the guys who don't even understand how to use their phone. That makes more sense.
JoeSlice
But didn't they kind of invent the phones we have now?
ChimeraGryph01
Also don't understand digital storefronts or online data policiies
CurbYourClassWar
I dunno about you, but when I think futuristic utopia with Ubi, I think geriatric, selfish,bitter fuckwads with dementia is the way to go...
benjamindco24
My conservative friend hates millennials, immigrants, liberals, Muslims, Mexicans, gays, blacks. Pretty much everybody
DownvotesRmyBadgeUvadge
Somehow I think your conservative friend might disagree. I'm conservative, and while I hate SOME people who fall into those categories...
DownvotesRmyBadgeUvadge
...I don't hate them BECAUSE of their category. I hate them because they are assholes.
theresgarlicinthatnebula
But does your hatred of individuals in these categories inspire you to punish the group they happen to belong to?
OGshogun
How long is the god damn bracket for millennials? Did we run out of nick names for newer generations?
Quomp
People don't seem to know the distinction between Gen X, Millennial, or Gen Z
tarkus10
The big label I'd like to see is Honest. Republican, Democrat or Independent - we need to get money out of our political system.
getridofTheSeaword
Then you need to support candidate who want to overturn Citizens United.
Seanspeed
Well you're *definitely* never going to get that if you keep letting Republicans win.
rando84
Agree, though Republicans are the main impediment to overturning Citizens United.
kyle2086
I think registering to a party as a voter should be abolished.
Treblaine
It's not done in other democracies as far as I know, except for official paid party members.
tarkus10
Things change. I think we need an honest 2 party system. Agree that that is a long ways off...but...
lazysombrero
Yes.
agentcase
Yes, we need the old guard out and new, fresh ideas in touch with the world today to take charge.
SciFiGuy2018
Yes, these positions were not designed as careers.
Fokker45
So vote for the other guy.
SciFiGuy2018
Every time
Musamura0987
Considering some are getting into the thirties, and late 30's, I think it's time we started getting treated like adults already lol.
Quomp
Maybe if you'd stop killing industries you might get a little respect!
Fokker45
Why are people calling for term limits? We have them. It is called VOTING. Vote for the other guy. Work for and support the other guy.
lostwalllet
the boomers aren't done ruining it yet.
ochermes28
Not like AOC.
EvilDeadTed
Too brown and female for you, hunh?
humaneffigy
She's really not that bad.
wadatahmydamie
She’s actually pretty good. There’s a reason she won her primary challenge by a landslide
mickison
SleepyFourEyes
It's like saying, 'this is a picture of me when I was younger'...
NicoretteJunkie
All pictures of you are when you were younger. You want to impress me, show me a picture of you when you're older.
JCBalance
Man lemme see that camera
SleepyFourEyes
nuajzeerp
Wrong question
deaddogsmuggler
Should we have more zoomer teenagers?
cyberghduck
Homer Simpson is 39, and that makes him a millenial.
Eleshar24
Jesus fuck :´-(
getridofTheSeaword
He’s 36. He was in 1989 and still is today.
cyberghduck
Actually we are both wrong: «he was 34 in the early episodes, 36 in season four, 38 and 39 in season eight, and 40 in the eighteenth season»
getridofTheSeaword
I stopped at season 10, had a ridiculous obsession up to that point but I guess you are probably right.
sureasyourebornyourenevergoingtoseenounicorn
We need term limits, it’s nonsense that we have so many people who are so out of touch making all these big decisions
AskingTheRealQuestions
Or you know, just elect people who aren't out of touch. There are people who are out of touch in every age group. Term limits won't fix shit
Fokker45
No we need a better informed electorate and vote out some of the old drones. Don't blame them, blame us for keeping them.
Malsbury
What if people are doing a good job? Issue is people doing a bad job keep getting reelected. Elections are meant to cut out the bad people.
LawmanLata
They'll just cycle through the offices and get to lobbying faster.
IHuggedaCorgiToday
juts like senile 70+ presidents are put of touch
FetaForMoses
At least the current one is hiring his children /s
cormone
I think you just made the point!
Vivoloko
Whoever creates the rule for congress where we have no terms actually realize who the real people in control is.
Fokker45
We have voters to stupid or too lazy to vote them out. We have the power but don't use it properly.
Vivoloko
Correct everyone is sitting there thinking electing a president changes anything but the real change comes within the fuckers in congress
RoombaTheAssaultVacuum
We HAVE congressional term limits. They are not enforced because of loopholes.
trapperjohnmd
Don’t worry they don’t make decisions. They just listen to their corporate sponsors and do whatever they’re told.
MendaxsTruth
Listen, they only just got their 8th heart replacement their still so full of life. They have easily another decade before they
MendaxsTruth
Need their full body on hundred thousand dollar per day paid by taxpayer life saving equipment, how could you seriously think they dont have
MendaxsTruth
Their youth still about them? Im sure by the time they are ready to leave they can just be heads in jars and keep ruling! /s i hope obvious
anotherhippynamedcosmicsomethingoranother
Carlin pretty much sums up the flawed reality of term limits. https://youtu.be/9etoocgcWm8
SooperStanky
Agreed.Maybe if term limited,the elected might make decisions based on what’s best for country rather than re-election and maintaining power
Dankking
But how will companies be able to not get caught paying off politicians if they keep changing
Alfadorfox
More than that, greater amount of time in office gives more time for young idealistic sorts to get swayed into corporate interests
Alfadorfox
You might start your career thinking yourself incorruptible, and twenty years later take lobbyist bribes without batting an eye.
DLTBGYDCU
AOC needs a term limit. Please!
superdupertrooper
Dont throw the good ones out though. Make elections more competitive and you get a better result
ShruggingAtlas
Pass. If you have a problem with the people that are actually up for reelection, wait until they don't even have to fake giving a shit.
shawnemack
How does term limits solve that issue? Constantly turning over congress only keeps inexperienced people in power and I’m not sure that helps
sureasyourebornyourenevergoingtoseenounicorn
Younger people with a variety of jobs and backgrounds would help reflect more accurately on the population they’re making laws for. Remember
sureasyourebornyourenevergoingtoseenounicorn
When all the old folk were doing a hearing with Zuckerberg and they didn’t understand anything about what he did or how to regulate it?
shawnemack
Term limits doesn’t guarantee you’ll get a younger person in office
BichesLoveMy120mmSabotPracticeRound
Or the Google guy. That was painful to watch.
atomiccheesegod
Yep McConnell has been in since 83, Feinstein is pushing 90 years old
JT1984
Didn't McConnell just finally get voted out though?
MyReferencesAreOutOfControl
Oh my God don't tease me. I must look into this.
OneBucPerson
No? He's up for re-election in November and his now opponent just won her primary somewhat recently to clinch the D nomination.
itsnotaraisin
Amy McGrath. She's badass.
daanibf79
Repeal the Permanent Apportionment Act if 1929. Drastically changes representation in Congress.
professionalConfirmologist
What's the TL;DR of this?
daanibf79
It capped house representation to 435 and increased Congress district size, and enabled gerrymandering. Smaller districts=more reps for
WalrusPhone
I thought I knew a fair amount about American politics but I'm amazed that Congress is so small.
daanibf79
Big states and cities with massive population. Our population keeps going up but we somehow have the same number of representatives.
daanibf79
With more urbanization, bigger congressional districts enables the minority to stifle progress and keeps misrepresentation alive.
nonCanadianGoose
The whole lobbying system is more of the problem. Cut the profits and ppl won’t camp so much
CoarseAndSalty
Removing the politicians corporations pay to build relationships with makes it much harder to lobby.
sureasyourebornyourenevergoingtoseenounicorn
I agree it’s a huge issue, but it’s unlikely that career politicians who have been making millions off of lobbying will change the laws.
superdupertrooper
The right to petition the government is in the Constitution. It isn't all evil (though a lot is)
sureasyourebornyourenevergoingtoseenounicorn
There’s a very big difference between petitioning the government and paying politicians to make laws
nonCanadianGoose
The definition of a circle jerk
Blimymyhat
Term limits are a sensible sounding but nonsense solution. Voting, we need citizens voting in primaries.
VinchVolt
Also ex post facto laws would exempt everyone who is currently in congress at the time a term limit law is established.
VinchVolt
After all, Harry Truman in theory could’ve run for a third term because he was president when term limits for his position were established.
Blimymyhat
Term limits just increase campaigning, make voting records meaningless could strengthen to power of parties.
superdupertrooper
Strengthens lobbyists
godzilladc
Term limits were ruled unconstitutional by SCOTUS. An amendment is required.
Newlyof
People still keep think millennials are really young. A lot of them are in their late 30s and are considered old by Gen Z.
fraxinusoleaceae
People still talk about millennials like they're in uni. I'm not an old millennial and I *teach* uni.
Zoeofdoom
me too, but i’m 37. And my students totally make fun of me for being a Millenial, so got that going for me
bogus1983
A lot of millennials still feel like the 90's and 00's were ten years ago. Time is weird.
SisyphusLivinLife
Stop it.
bogus1983
Stop... time? That'd be a neat trick.
SisyphusLivinLife
Yes.
MarcusRiedner
Watching dementia set in right here in this thread. Both of you are too old for politics.
Newlyof
Err obviously they were only 8 years ago. I also know they weren't, but it makes me sad that they aren't. I'm a Gen X so easily hated
CandleToad
A lot of people mistake Gen Z for Millennials (Gen Y), and many complaining about millennials are probably millennials themselves.
linearcore
It doesn't help that the "millennial" label applies to people who grew up before computers had hard drives AND people who had iPhones in HS.
CandleToad
Yup. Quite a broad brush.
tinyfootprints
I'm completely confused. I know I'm a Boomer myself (1950) but I have no idea what other generations' date ranges are.
CandleToad
Each cohort tends to last ~15-20 years, but the dates aren't exact. Rough overview: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generation#Western_world
linearcore
I *remember* the Soviet Union, and my colleagues in the "same generation" had Wikipedia in elementary school. TOTALLY the same childhood....
SmokyDoggg
Yeah well these stuffy old assholes obviously aren't getting the job done for me because I'm not a multimillion dollar pharmaceutical so...
SirBobby98121
Wrong - they ARE getting it done ... featherbedding their nest. You were expecting something else ?
macthelost
Andrew Yang. Don’t know why I said lee. That was a fuck up. My bad. And it was just a working title lol. He did say he was open to others.
macthelost
This is why Lee’s “freedom dollars” plan was such a great idea. Every citizen gets like 100 of them to spend on whatever campaign or bill >
w0ntoan
Sounds great, but we'll get back to a different problem very quickly, judging by how its so easy to convince with some pandering to idiots.
macthelost
Lobby they like. But as corps are “people” too each company only gets 100 to spend as well. So they can’t overwhelm even one citizen >
macthelost
Just because they have more money to burn.
HorriblyPositive
Couldn't they just buy my freedom dollars, or run massive ad campaigns telling me how to spend them?
macthelost
Nope. You only get what you get. It’s not even real money. Just a way to lobby and show support fairly
macthelost
Can’t edit comments, but i meant Andrew Yang. My bad.
Variadicism
Yes! And he called those political funding $100's "Democracy Dollars"; the Freedom Dividend was his $1,000/mo UBI plan. #yanggang
macthelost
There ya go. That’s what it actually is. Thanks for the fact check! It’s shit he didn’t keep running
Variadicism
I know, right? His is the only campaign I ever contributed to. It shut down a few days later. ?
RosencrantzNGuildensternNeverLived
Can we please, pleeeeease not call them freedom dollars? Aside from that, not a bad plan. Lee who is this?
macthelost
Also they were called democracy dollars. I messed that up to. I’m messing up a lot today ?♂️
RosencrantzNGuildensternNeverLived
Lol. S’ok. Good correction.
macthelost
Yang, Andrew yang. I fucked that up. Sorry guys.
RosencrantzNGuildensternNeverLived
Thank god, I found Lee. I mostly (but not entirely) hate him. I thought you might mean Yang.
macthelost
It is yang. Thought it’s a moot point. He quit running
BanderasForScale
People will forever think millennial = young person in their early 20s
Vaanhalen
Just like anyone over 30 is derisively called a "boomer"
nosaucesbutapplesauces
For YEARS I thought millennials were those born in the new millennium and didn’t think of myself as one.
runscar
That's literally how it was first used when I heard it.
EvilDeadTed
I graduated high school in 2000 and got a Millennial scholarship. So even back then, people used it for my generation.
ChaoZer0
I'm 20, I feel too old to classify with zoomers and too young to classify as millenial, it depends on what people's definitions are
Browsing4stuff
Aren’t the youngest millennials like 26 now?
Illsaysomethingjusttomakeyoumad
Millenials ruining the blame game! Taking tabloid journalism market to the brink!
shakeyerbonbonshakeyerbonbon
Right? People need to quit it...I'm old enough that I need to wake up and Bengay my entire body if I fall sleep in a funny position
RideTheStimutacs
Honestly though, it's a silly name for a generation that ended a few years before the actual millennium.
joca852
The idea is that we came of age around the turn of the millennium
aface62
Soon enough the saying will be "maybe not millennial", so watch your mouth!
StephenDaniels
Yes older people; but they are gonna die. To a 7 year old AOC is really, really old.
srsgiraffe
Hi, millenial here. I turned 30 in January.
PuncturedBag
Oh not forever, Hippie
TheYoungJaywalker
I’m gen Z and I’m turning 20 this tear
TheYoungJaywalker
Year*
Golfbob
Gen Z! I’m 22.
mastodonj
I'm 36 and a millenial!
srsgiraffe
gregbillsy86
Fuckin millennial
AltF4EwingsSarcoma
At least in 5-10 years we can all start complaining about the covid generation. They're all socially inept and germiphobes.
BlancheTuttle
Damn Coronials
RedRumRex
“Generation SARS-CoV-2-D-19” ...catchy.
vingtvingt
Rona Babies
crann
Quarinteens
vingtvingt
Which reminds me if you want a chuckle, check out the song “Quarantined” by Old Crow Medicine Show.
Tomadzo
Hard to think of myself as a Gen X at 50
OriginalSyn
Being GenX you should be used to people not thinking of you as anything.
Tomadzo
Ouch...true, but ouch
RideTheStimutacs
Kind of goes with the territory when your whole thing is being disaffected and apathetic.
OriginalSyn
Being a latch key kid will do that to a person
Textuality
comacomacomacomachameleon
The oldest Millennials will be 40 soon. Even the youngest ones will be 30 in a few years.
Smartlinkseo
31 year old reporting for duty
Kalimitous
Millennial here ? 39 this year!
davehaze
NO!
Humanfrenchfry
Stop that
BrugerNavnHer
Yeah my thought.. 28 soon. Let me die or be rich!
BrugerNavnHer
No... Just die.
Frogchildren
*are 40 now
davehaze
NO!
in70x
I’m 31
xJustAGuy
Shut up don't remind me
Imadethisaccounttopost
I just turned 40and am considered both a millenail and gen x. The dates are usually between 77 and 82 but always ends in 97
TheSiskoIsOfBajor
30 in less than a year!
DrunkenMarineBiologist
XdashXexclamationVapostropheapostrpheQ
I feel attacked.
TheAlbatrossFromTheMoon
STOP REMINDING ME THAT
FairColleen
A “young” millennial, reporting for duty. *salute*
GRA2itous
I’ll be 29 in October, thanks for reminding me.
BrugerNavnHer
Good month tho.. 28 for me.
nlghtmancometh
September here. 30 is so close. Fuck me I've gotta get my shit together.
GRA2itous
Oh yeah, that thing.
dragonfliet
Stop calling me old.
Elcarsh
Okay gramps!
MarcusRiedner
Old AND invalid for politics.
kwyjiboner
No, no that can't be right. *cries in 35*
CrazyBodyPilot
Yup - 32
milkmyrod
Quick, a millennial, get him!
NotaCPA
36 - yeah, it's right.
JanglesPrime
26 - I'm looking to destroy a few more industries before I get into politics. Practice makes perfect.
JanglesPrime
36 - Damn these lazy fingers!
speakeasiez
Almost 37 - who's cutting onions?
Fadetoblack021
......38, not feelin' great
SisyphusLivinLife
*sobs in 38*
CarlosGonzales
Crying in 39 in two weeks
soon
There should be a mandatory retirement age for Congress. Corporations have them. That would ensure some fresh blood seeps in.
Popspoppingit
WTB congressional term limits
SamArt53
The oldest current Senator, Dianne Feinstein was 53 yo (in 1986) when she said Sen Alan Cranston, 72, a fit runner was TOO OLD to run again
SamArt53
for office. The hypocrite was the oldest sitting senator when she ran for office in 2018. She was 85. Reminds me of “Weekends at Bernies”
MrRandom314159
Actually they don't. It was sorta made illegal to force someone out due to their age a bit ago.
audioCandyMonster
Mitch McConnell and Nancy Pelosi do not approve this message
MaterNyx
I guess term limits more than retirement age. As long as you got, no problem. But term limits to help move out corrupted regularly and also>
MaterNyx
Maybe limits for election campaign donations/lobbying would be cool.
dumberthanyouraveragebear
Given the Bernie sanders of the world vs the Tomi Lahrens...the fact that this comment got as much upvotes time downvoted, disturbs me.
ImADouchebag
The true solution to a corrupt congress is to reintroduce the FCC cross ownership rules of 1975 and repeal the Telecommunications Act of 96.
kruug
And a maximum election age. Can't be voted in unless you're over 35 and under 60 (or something like that).
TheBurritoConfederacy
Do this instead of retirement ages, that way a term doesn't get cut short and require a special (out-of-season) election for a successor.
theFinks
Seriously. How many congressmen do you think are as senile as the president? Memorizing 5 nouns doesn’t make you qualified either.
Bowjohbs
Yeah because we want our government to be just like a large corporation ?
sc363
Visceral description.
JamesSidhe
I’d love to see congressmen have to excuse themselves from voting on laws that affect large campaign donors(right now they are being bribed)
Vysard
Hah, assuming the elite will give up their positions of power and wealth willingly because of a little thing like age or dementia.
TheotherBudwhite
term limits is right
NateintheNorth
The corporations wanna get the most use out of their purchases, though.
RPCd
There are term limits just voters repeat their fails over and over again because they love familiar things.
NightfallEverdark
Term limits would accomplish much the same thing.
spermulator
60 and get the fuck out.
dougsfriendskeeter
Flesh blood of newly exploitable interests.
LazyBuddha
I would hope my generation would do a better job. Many people in Congress grew up in a very different world they millennials.
jinbee
Some of the best most honest people in politics are cantankerous old bastards who give zero shits about the party line...
jinbee
...there's a few brilliant ones in the House of Lords who have graduated to elder statesmen & women and give their own party hell regularly.
dylanamanhouilhan
If anything I would require all politicians to already be retired. 65+. Leaves them a bit detached from everyday concerns like money
dylanamanhouilhan
You arent going to be a lobbyist after 8 years ( a short career) if that means you are 73 min
SomeDetroitGuy
In the US, companies do NOT have mandatory retirement ages. That's been illegal since the 80s.
greentights
Maybe not on paper, but they are the first to go in a layoff cuz they cost too much. And it's hardest to find a job when you're 50+
soon
https://strategichrinc.com/mandatory-retirement-guidelines/
soon
https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2016/12/13/exxonmobil-weighs-ceo-transition-after-trumps-rex-tillerson-nomination/95367822/
FortressCraft
The phrase 'mandatory guideline' is a fascinating oxymoron.
ProfessorPritt
Options: term limits, reset the government every 250 years with civil war, elect people as they come of age for public service
WaxDragon
Or y'know, just a term limit
JaxJamesTheTenaciousTurtle
I dunno man, since when is old = corrupt/bad leader/whatever? Isn't wisdom acquired by age etc.
legup2p
term limits, indeed ... and a mandatory retirement age for the supreme court!
MarcusRiedner
Why? That assumes age equates incompetence. The problem in US politics is not age. It is a refusal to abandon 2 party voting and lobbyists.
Armored0Titan0
It equates to disconnection from the needs of the general populace.
PastureofMuppets
I think a bigger disconnect is wealth and wealth security, not age.
Armored0Titan0
And which age bracket is wealth concentrated in?
EyeSpyABreathtakingPerson
Sometimes. There are old people in the general populace though. Most of the politicians any more were never part of it to begin with.
Lynkfox
What would work is a statistical analysis of the population and the need for the same ratio in Congress (at least the house)
Lynkfox
20% 18-25. 35%25-35 in your state? Then as close as possible you should have 1/5th of your reps be 18-25 and about a 3rd be 25-35
MarcusRiedner
Old people are part of the general population
Bmxrider70763
The world has changed so much in even the last 20 years. The older you are the harder it is to keep up with those changes.
Pancakes9000
That hysteresis isn’t necessarily a bad thing.
PastureofMuppets
Representation is supposed to be the best of us---so, people who aren't out of touch. That comes down to the voter's responsibility.
MarcusRiedner
ORLY? I am into the 40+ age group and am starting a graduate degree with plans to move to a doctorate. I have a solid grasp of tech and
OhNoDontTouch
there is BIG difference between 40+ and 65+
MarcusRiedner
I had a 104 year old great great aunt learn page layout and online research. But she doesn't count because she was old.
MarcusRiedner
social issues, and find it is no trouble to adjust to new tools and knowledge. But I guess because I hot an age bracket I am invalid.
nothingIsSomethingBecauseItCantBeNothingSoItHasToBeSomething
Congrats on being an outlier. This is anecdotal, one data point, not a good sample size. I'm proud of you for being aware and capable though
montyman185
The problem is though, the current leadership isn't the 40+ age bracket, it's the 70+. At the very least, forcing the old out would cycle in
drunkpanther
The longer you hold the seat, the more statistically likely you are to become corrupt. It’s also a matter of representation.
twelveythesecond
Couldn’t agree more. I’d like to think that at least a few current “career politicians” started out with good intentions, gave in over time
Fargus57
Could you please post a source or corroborating study for your claim regarding corruption. I couldn't find anything confirming it.
drunkpanther
I am unsure if there was a study, but it is a matter of probability. If everyday there is, let’s say, a 1/100 chance of a seat holder 1/?
drunkpanther
Perfoming an act of corruption (as small as a favor, or as big as a bribe); the probability that it won’t happen decreases every day. 2/?
allmostthere1234
It's all over Facebook I'm sure so it HAS to be true. /s
manofthewest1993
Eat ass retard.
MarcusRiedner
Oddly the GOP is on average younger than the DEMs. But the DEMs have a wider age gap (more young, more old).
OtterlyMagnificent
And on average the GOP is less corrupt too.
Nobody7713
The GOP have a huge cohort in their 40s and 50s. Think like Paul Ryan clones.
MarcusRiedner
Exactly. And a lot of that younger cohort are batshit crazy in my opinion. But I guess they are younger, so better?
swellerelk
The only way to solve it is to make it illegal to recieve any contributions and make their pay equal the median of the area they represent.
Fargus57
How would pay make a difference? Many Senators and quite a few Reps are privately wealthy. Pay isn't a motivator for them.
swellerelk
That plus ranked choice, but it'll never happen. We can't even get half the population to vote.
superdupertrooper
Senators make less than new grads from top law schools. Their staffs are paid at a fixed % and it is so low only rich kids & new grads do it
superdupertrooper
Staff members are supposed to be experts in their field but get paid a fraction of what they can make elsewhere. Rich kids are everywhere
OtterlyMagnificent
But then the politicians get bribe-money from lobbyists that makes up for it.
superdupertrooper
The lobbyist money is for campaigns. Fix financing and you remove that incentive. Still need to stop sketchy investment loopholes though...
dumberthanyouraveragebear
Also...look at how well societies do when it’s mainly youth running them (pro tip...not well at all)
deekermans31415
Which ones are you talking about? There's a couple rather young PM's currently doing rather well by most accounts.
dumberthanyouraveragebear
Politics is a game of time. Most politicians are praised in their beginnings, only to have problems in the future or uncovered. All babies
dumberthanyouraveragebear
Are innocent until they start living
dumberthanyouraveragebear
Also I refer to countless Roman historical cases, Khmer Rouge, the Chinese revolution, Iranian revolution, countless African countries
dumberthanyouraveragebear
Cautionary tales from Roman and greek examples among several absolute monarchs would have stood out for founding fathers when they put min
dumberthanyouraveragebear
Age for positions.
OhNoDontTouch
There a difference between wanting youth politicians and wanting politicians who aren't geriatric.
dumberthanyouraveragebear
Unfortunately this is part and parcel with democracy and a large demographic that’s getting older. But fret not, they’ll die within a ...
dumberthanyouraveragebear
Generation and others will take over. This is the natural ebb and flow of democracy, sometimes you get people you don’t want. If we always
dumberthanyouraveragebear
Got who we wanted, we’d be in a dictatorship and we’d be the oppressors. Back and forth is good.
MarcusRiedner
There is value in age and wisdom. You become an expert over time and practice.
dumberthanyouraveragebear
And calm emotions. There is a place for both. Youth and age.
MarcusRiedner
Totes ma goats.
FlyingButtPliers
If politicians couldn't work past age 65, no Biden, no Trump, no Barr, no Pelosi, no McConnell.
DeepBeyondBelief
Amen to that brother
Neotrup
Why would that stop Trump? Has he worked yet?
maracucho
Also no Bernie Sanders. Everybody wins. Then we can start disliking new politicians
Anikanje
No problem!
Kimona007
Goosebumps-- the idea is so simple and cold. I love it
bamcobra
I would give up Biden and Pelosi to be rid of the others you mention.
DogSocks
No John Lewis for the last 15 years
DogSocks
My point is that you would remove a lot of competent representatives as well.
OtterlyMagnificent
We might lose SOME competent representatives, but in exchange, we'd purge the supermajority of incompetence.
ThisGuyPostingThings
Not exactly. You're assuming their replacements would be better, but given the quality of some younger representatives, it's unlikely.
OldSwedishGrandma
Win, win, win, win, win!
cuterthanyoursister
You say that like it's a bad thing.
FlyingButtPliers
I didn't indicate an opinion, you filled that in on your own. Interesting to see the same sentence interpreted opposite ways though.
tangybreath
Ok sure. Wheres the downside? Im sick and tired of 80yos making rules like their almost-dead-self is gonna have to suffer the consequences
scJazz
They make the decisions so that their 60 yro kids can matter.
phobos535
You say that like they are working now...
kruug
No Sanders.
Kronzor
We wouldn’t need a sanders if the younger people actually had a say in political decision making.
BallsackHippo
Geatz is among those younger people. Just sayin'.
flibbertigibbet
He's not a people
OhNoDontTouch
I agree with his policy, but I certainly wouldn't mind if he retired.
whooptydoo
Hes lost a lot of respect from me anyway. He was always so consistent, then presidential race comes around and he tries to be buddy buddy
whooptydoo
With the establishment
Blud4BludGod
I have a lot of confidence that if he'd taken the nomination/election, he'd still have consistently fucked the establishment.
Camelspotting
Because he's not an idiot.
Acrage
Wow that all sounds wonderful
dylanamanhouilhan
Most likely all of them are replaced with a younger equivalent
WolfRexV3
Sadly no Bernie, but he'd definitely be a good influencer
GalaxyPatrol
Now I’m picturing Bernie posting butt pics in front of a nice landscape on insta
drunkbs
Exactly, because unlike the corporate Dems and the GOP, he represents an ideology to better citizens, not self interest.
NotTheRealMeNow
I really want Bernie on IG drinking a mojito in Bermuda now. I’d simp for our socialist hunk
narniasreal
Him taking work out photos that are primarily focused on his ass in booty shorts.
soon
Assholes come in all ages
Babaloga
But Neuroplasticity is conclusively shown to decrease with age. Very old politicians likely have trouble keeping up with changing times.
IlluminaBlade
But enough about Epstein.
kaymon
JustAPileOfCats
Paul Ryan, Rand Paul, Tom Cotton
PhillerTheThriller
All young, stupid assholes
JustAPileOfCats
FlyingButtPliers
True, but I think people who have to live longer with the outcomes of their decisions might make different / better choices.
beepboopskiddlydoop
What makes you think the people in power (and usually rich) have to live with the outcomes of a lot of these decisions?
TheSSMorgan2015
Except that the people making the decisions arent negatively impacted by the results. Only the poor working class sees the negative results.
AShartInTheWind
Partially true, people actively in congress are even less affected by their decisions, but if they know they'll actually be living in the --
PastureofMuppets
They are in a different wealth class---they do not live with their consequences regardless of age.
MarcusRiedner
Ding ding ding! We have a winner!
Acrage
The older they get the more out off touch they get with the way the world is going
MarcusRiedner
That is BS.