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Jul 15, 2026 9:50 PM
skapanda616
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BrokenAnimal
What?
Are they hearing themselves?
UnicornsToxicRainbowFart
magicrhombus
What's... what's his point though? I mean suppose we were to grant his premise? Suppose all ancient greek man-on-man was hyper masculine. Like, two oiled up, muscular spartan warriors porking each other between battles, or whatever. Why is that important to this guy? Because it gives him permission to be gay while still clinging to a hypermasculine ideal of himself?
itiswhatitis420
remember when the blue checkmark just meant thats the actual person and now most of the time its just some fucking idiot
Cebrail
I think the blue checkmark is much more useful now. Now it almost gurantees that the poster if a fucking moron who paid Elon money so he or she could post vapid bullshit on a Nazi platform.
Howlingowl
When a dick goes in your ass in Ancient Greece it’s less gay than when a dick goes in your ass today: because Socialism.
skapanda616
OhIfIMust
DeakVanNyke
Greeks invented the orgies. And only centuries later Romans tried to add women as well.
NinjaCongo
+1 for title!
Mstrswrd
All right, while this is clearly stupid as hell, the Ancient Greeks did have a very different view of what we call Homosexuality- Specifically, it wasn't considered "Gay" to be physically attracted to another man, or even having sex with another man... but it was "Gay" to be penetrated. In fact, it was expected that younger people would probably be in same sex relationships, but that they would grow out of it, and to be fair, most did. Also, older men having sex with younger boys 1/2
Mstrswrd
was actually less common then one would think considering all the culturally normalized pederasty. This was because there was a genuine fear that, if one had sex with the boys, they might grow to like it to much and then would become "Too womanly," and thus wouldn't be able to grow into proper men. Instead, there was a lot of intercrural sex (thigh job). Which, going back to the original point, is why only the person "receiving" was "gay" by their standards, 2/3
Mstrswrd
because that was tied more into ideas of maleness and femaleness then our understanding of sexuality as something at least partially separate. It was more about the acts and your place in them, instead of what you found attractive.
Now, theory time: this is probably why Athena (war) and Artemis (huntress), were Virgins- they literally were less Womanly (though not necessarily less feminine) having never been penetrated (Hestia, on the other hand, would have been more pure, being unsullied).3/3
Bear1bear
Is this a closeted mating call? Do they dm each other their grinder handles later?
WackyWavingInflatableArmFlailingTubman
Its gotta be satire
CaldariBob
The Spartans were rampant pederasts.
Dabriusz
Lefty communists? As compared to centrists or right wing communists? Is there any brain under this sweaty baseball cup?
QuartzPoker
Ancient Greek homosexuality was often "older dude and younger dude who is basically the older dude's apprentice" and due to how the definition of Adulthood has changed, trying to do it today would land you a free invitation to Epstein's parties.
1eventHorizon9
I get the feeling a lot of those blue checkmark chuds are very bitter they didnt get to go.
ElbowDeepInUserSub
"Liberals are feminizing homosexuality!"
Howlingowl
Did the bigot just argue sexuality is a spectrum while simultaneously being homophobic?
ElbowDeepInUserSub
"Fucking dudes is one thing, but I draw the line at holding hands!" I don't know, something like that. :P
slopwizard
"Fellas, is it gay to fuck a twink instead of a bear?"
BurningVeryImportantThings
only if you suck their dick first
ApplesdaKitty
ah shit. the bar to make it into the queer club gets higher each time. I guess ill go notify bae that only one of us are gay.
QuestDjinn
The mental gymnastics are always surprising because I never expect them to have a brain
FoxPesdassi
A very *small* brain. Leaves a lot more room for the gymnastics.
ToSisPoS
Three. Herodotus and Penicus are having a sword fight while Bibliophiles steers the boat.
SubtleOrc
you're gonna be real sorry after I oil up
ToSisPoS
Id be more sorry if you didn’t, so you take whatever win you can get.
VinnyVeritas
It has to be fake macho gay... like Hegseth
ahorseelbowdeepinme
I fucking love this. They're sooooooo close to getting it!
MartianWeasel
So being gay used to be manly and straight, but now its just gay? Got it. Thanks for clearing that up.
foxpotate
If you can't handle history without revising it to fit your fragile ego and shitty worldview: consider making toast in the bath.
Lazarillo
I feel like the bread wouldn't get warm enough to toast, and would get soggy on top of that. Can't recommend.
foxpotate
Well don't try to put safety foam on history then. Fuck this "reeeeeeeee mah heritage!" shit.
ArenJ6
My elderly gay manager is like this. I tell him he's a fucking idiot every day. We don't get along lol.
wesruv
Golden age fallacy is a helluva drug
ArenJ6
I think is more the generational hate for flamboyant gay people. He probably justified himself thinking he was one of the "good gays", kipping it to himself. I can understand him, with the necessity to hide from society in his youth, but he's also vocal about how he doesn't like visually gay people and, naturally, he's a big transphobe, hence MY necessity to tell him he's a fucking idiot at every opportunity.
MorkandGork
Ironically I used to think like that when I was a lot younger.. thinking that I was the normal gay and the flamboyant ones were giving the rest a bad name... it was just insecurity with my own sexuality.. thank fucking gawd I grew out of that really quickly
ArenJ6
I was like that too! But with so many opportunities to learn, I fault anyone who has refused to lñchange for so many years.
MorkandGork
yea but maybe people do not have the opportunities to learn. If they live in a closed society.. if they do not interact with others..if they do not have their perceptions challenged they will never learn
getadogupya
You get someone to manage your gayness?
DrewThe3DPrinterGuy
Oh, I have something for this.
DidaChikDumaChum
Rewatching 30 rock after maybe 15 years. Man that show was peak television
LunarEntropy
I didn't realize Lindsey Grahm was on 30 Rock
raymm
Which episode?
DrewThe3DPrinterGuy
Wikipedia says Subway Hero episode. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subway_Hero
raymm
Yes, I just saw it
30.Rock.S02E12.Subway.Hero.1080p.AMZN.WEBRip.DD5.1.x264-NTb
nurmich
That episode has my favorite throwaway line in the whole show. "I just wandered around the building all night. Didn't run into another living soul, except for one gigantic lesbian. Who is Conan OBrien and why is she so sad?" But she's got a mouth like a sandwich girl.
Sticklebrickk
Love that Conan just pops up like 4 times
RocketKokket
Lmao forgot about that one. 30 rock had so many good one off jokes
MikeRInternetTraveler
Tim Conway might be the funniest man to ever live
gaggedandgooped
THE funniest
OverwhelmingSurplusOfDiggity
An understated and underused genius.
interestingmonster
The dentist is probably my favorite! Brilliant
quade
Every time I see manly men in my small town drive around with the stickers on the back windows of their compensatingly oversized pickup trucks with the Spartan helmet with the Moron Labia slogan below it, I giggle thinking about all the Spartan gay sex.
skapanda616
Come and take it daddy
skapanda616
Molon labe is just code for "there's a free gun in this pickup truck"
quade
*was a free gun and now broken glass everywhere, be careful
InfocalypseRising
...the what slogan?
FellaWithUmbrella
"Molon Labe", Come and take them
ChosenChaos
Which the Persians ended up doing at Thermopylae.
Just like how Philip II of Macedon ravaged Laconia after warning the Spartans he would do so.
Egudahl
I know…
I first read it as “Mormon Labia”
quade
It's called soaking, and it's NOT sex. So you can do it with boys, and so it's not gay. Duh!
PatrickDenStore
Um, the Greek homosexuality was WITH BOYS, actual children.
SubtleOrc
like the Epstein pedarists
DrWhy9
Is pedophilia the manly form of homosexuality?
IHateTransphobes
Apparently. Technically ephebophilia though.
d4m4s74
Unfortunately making the distinction makes people sound like a pedophile
IHateTransphobes
I'm well aware, but *those* 'people' already call me one for being transgender. They called us that so loudly for so long that when I was 12, I thought I WAS one.
copingcabana
Then, as now, a lot of people were fucking assholes.
wesruv
A lot of it was older men having sex with adolescent boys, which is what the Apostle Paul is condemning in the new testament.
Thorketil
You are presumably referring to the sexual expectations teachers had of their learners. In such cases, the teacher demanded oral sex from his student. The ancient Greeks evidently maintained a rather complex approach to homosexuality—one that varied from generation to generation.
wesruv
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Jarjarthejedi
It's also what the commandment in the old testament is about when you go back to the original wording ("if a ish [male who is of adult age] lies with a zachar [male who is not of adult age] as he lies with a woman...")
IHateTransphobes
I'm gonna have to dispute that. Scholars don't agree on what zachar means and a better translation than "lies with a _ as he lies with a woman" would be "penetrates a _ sexually."
PhailRaptor
The one thing we can all agree with is that it doesn't say what "Christians" think it says
IHateTransphobes
Absolutely.
TheMershedPerderder
Just admit you like bears, amd move on https://media2.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPWE1NzM3M2U1Y3QycmcxMGY0MjllbGMxdmkydDQxOGhkdnB4aWpjOG95Z3J2dzdheCZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/z0SPfwdPrPaQLTkqMH/200w.webp
KillerTofu69
Looks like someone needs to roll up their sleeves and clean those gutters out
MechKelly
Built in fur coat for the winter.
FrenziiTheIMP
I wanna run my fingers through it
meatballdreamer
jamiedBreaker
How did you load a 5 minute video in the comments
Draygen
Yeah, was gonna say Nomad spent a lot of words to say "my type is hypermasc dudes and I'm a bottom."
skapanda616
Rufferstuff
Is he winking at me?
johnxbear
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Level21Magikarp
Different bear but both make women feel safer in the woods.