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An easy way to tell how long a city has been around is to look at it from above: modern cities tend to have wide, even street grids that are easy to navigate by car. Ancient cities like Rome, by contrast, look like a pile of spaghetti from a bird’s eye view. It’s not just an aesthetic difference—it’s fundamentally easier to walk around the small blocks of downtown Manhattan (where the Dutch first established a trading post in 1624) versus the wide lanes of Irvine, California, a master-planned suburb built in the 1960s. To get a better idea, check out these grid maps by UC Berkeley city planning researcher Geoff Boeing (as spotted over on FlowingData).
Boeing’s visualizations compare aerial views of different cities around the world through one-square-mile snapshots, created using an algorithm that pulls from OpenStreetMap. The unified scale of the visualizations makes it easy to quantify how walking around different places feels. City blocks differ in both size and shape. An aerial view of downtown Paris looks like a windshield that just had a bad encounter with a flying rock. A similar view of Portland looks like a chicken-wire fence. If you look closely, you can compare the width of streets and highways:
The maps also show where even the most uniform city grids are interrupted. Since the 1960s, Portland’s dense, walking-friendly blocks have had a giant highway cut through them. Atlanta, too, is a tangle of highways. San Francisco is filled with alleys, as is Tunis.
If you look at all of the grids, you can see the difference between cities that were meticulously planned and those that sprang up organically. Dubai and Sacramento look like they were drawn by a city planner’s pencil, but Osaka and Boston clearly expanded more haphazardly over the centuries. The symmetrical boulevards and diagonal side streets of Paris are the result of the 19th century plans of Georges-Eugène Haussmann, who was hired by Napoleon to help remake the city.
They are all a good reminder that the easiest cities to get around don’t always have the simplest maps. Rome may look like a tangle of winding streets, but that tight network is much easier to traverse than the very few streets that intersect in a square mile of Irvine’s street grid. And from street level, those tiny blocks tend to look a lot more interesting than big suburban intersections.
Sauce - http://mentalfloss.com/article/92200/what-square-mile-citys-grid-looks-around-world
AutoFox
Ahh Dubai. Pointless, built by essentially slave labor, but damn did they commit to concentric circles.
RespectfullyDisagreee
Very interesting. Want more but unwilling to put the effort in to find them.
xerrex123
Ditto
jesusedgarhoover
American cities are so fucking boring.
BrandoliRavioli
Anyone else in or around Atlanta agree that it's always easier getting into downtown than driving out?
URNSHOW
Not when they've got a hair up their ass and you're in an 18 wheeler.
URNSHOW
Not when they've got a hair up their ass and you're in an 18 wheeler.
BrandoliRavioli
Traffic sucks but I always get annoyed by all the one way streets. And it's also fun when they close roads due to different events downtown.
lecookiemonstah
Boston made worse by the fact that most of our streets are one way, and they don't alternate either.
PatrickDiomedes
Yeah, Philly's overabundance of one way streets pisses me off but at least they alternate
theresgarlicinthatnebula
I can't navigate Boston by car because I'm so used to walking around it. Can't cut across the Fens or through the Common in a car...
Gdan79
yea. Boston is an example of a city designed by horse drawn carriages. Roads are narrow and random.
TheDerpicorn
I hate driving in Boston. I always end up taking the commuter rail in cause I may have gone up a one way street the wrong way a few times..
Dustyny
Paris is a horrible example to use since it was heavily redone.
dnusc09
I learned more during my study abroad trip & how to navigate a city (which looks identical on every street) cuz of Paris! #UGAàParis2013
sleix
Looking at Sacramento, that's not Sacramento City, that's the Arden/Arcade Area, left border of the pic would be Watt Ave near Arden Ave.
UsernameFromDaHood
I find that the less griddy part of the city is usually the suburbs/nice areas. Doesn't apply to everywhere in the city but in general does
Sfumato
was about to say that the part that im from is a legit grid
PixieVixie
Me toooo! Midtown <3
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PixieVixie
S st!
grandfalloon
Good game shop near there...
PixieVixie
I almost said fair oaks, or north of it. Certainly not the grid.
TinkerThinker42
I can see my house from here
jmariebeau
Yay! Sacramento! You included us :D
redswhinez
And then there's London.
imnotthatblonde
london is in part based around old field boundries, "blocks" were built as each field was sold/built on, roads running along the boundries
Scyrennn
Have you seen Sydney?
PeteTusk
Paris and Rome are magnificent places to walk, though. I wouldn't even want a car there. No desire to even go to many modern cities.
Banananananananananananananananananananamanana
Irvine resident here, can confirm picture
mustua
Me too! Yeah, this city is fucked. Cox sucks, no phone reception, but at least the trees are pretty right?
AnotherSliceOfPizzaPlease
Being from Pittsburgh, ours just looks like a bowl of spaghetti.
DwightSnute
4 way intersections are rare as shit.
rugger2
From Pittsburgh. Was going to just scribble on a page and submit it to this.
AnotherSliceOfPizzaPlease
Which area are you from?
rugger2
Grew up about an hour North East. Now live around Lawrenceville. Not a hipster I swear.
AnotherSliceOfPizzaPlease
"live in Lawrenceville" and "NOT hipster" does not agree.. haha that are quite a few in that area.
rugger2
Trust me I know. I feel like an outsider going into some bars and not having a murse/ironic mustache
theirrisponsiblecaptain
Triangles downtown and three dimensions of roads.
DarthHat3r
Being from Chicago and having my parents move to Pittsburgh the river front area from Heinz to pnc is amazing
truelovelies
I've been to Pittsburgh (sis used to live there) and that's how I felt when driving around!
FeloniousDrunk101
With the three rivers flowing: ketchup, mustard, and ranch dressing.
sugarmagnolia709
My city would also look like a bowl of spaghetti (St. John's)
URNSHOW
Pittsburgh IS a bowl of spaghetti.
SpecimenSpiff
Is... That a bad thing?
URNSHOW
When you've got 18 wheels, it can be.
URNSHOW
When you've got 18 wheels, it can be.
Scave
This reminds me of a story I once read. So this group of British politicians are touring Japan they've been all over and the old streets 1/2
Scave
Have been a maze. So when they get to Hiroshima, one politician asks why all the streets seem to be so organized compared to the rest 2/3
Scave
Of Japan. His colleagues all look on stunned. While the Japanese politician (I think it was Hiroshima's mayor) just states 3/4
Scave
"Ah, the Americans helped."
thedailyspank
Sacramento -- Arden, Eastern, Fair Oaks, Watt
James700
i drove this everyday for years
thedailyspank
Built around the 1950s but Downtown is just mostly just one big grid
hurtfulpurple
DT is referred to as the grid.
thedailyspank
That's probably why
foxyfaice
Sacramento was designed A. around three rivers, and B. incredible residental so people didn't feel blocked in.
thedailyspank
It's the south Arden area -- Arden, Eastern, Fair Oaks, Watt
FluffyMcPeePeeButt
Yeah that definitely looks like a residential area. If they had shown down/midtown it would be a grid with parks in the way.
shutard
That's the 405 in Portland and most of those streets under or over the highway.
gigglypilot
First thing I thought when reading the Portland description was "so?"
AWildhurst
I'm a FedEx guy. Grid maps literally have me drooling with pleasure. Haha
DTryptophan
Charlieeeeeeee3
After 8 hours of driving to Boston I had to pull over and let my friend drive because of how fucked up the roads are lol
mole6653
Fun fact: the grid system that New York uses is based on Whitehaven, a small town in the UK that I live in.
DeTobiasch
That's a nightmare for an American? You should try some European cities
9seasons97years
Never live in the UK if you like grids, our ancestors just planted houses where ever suited them no pattern nor nothing
bulldogmurph
As someone who drives a truck in Boston, if you don't know where you're going, pahk ya can, and call a cab. Because you really are just 1/2
bulldogmurph
making it worse for everyone who does know what they're doing. Thanks, your friendly beer delivery guy.
Tehadam
Fack*
chrissykoo
Lived in Boston for a longer time. Don't know how to get anywhere...After first few months I'm NY...No problem getting around.
chrissykoo
OK I lied...My sense of direction is so bad I think it's considered a disability. Sometimes end up in Queens when I'm tryna go to west side.
chrissykoo
Point is....NY is MUCH better for the directionally challenged like me
BackRiverGhost
I'm from Southie and I find the general idea of Boston geographically and culturally hilarious.
theresgarlicinthatnebula
woooo Mission Hill!!!!!!!
MrReallyObvious
I wish I had more up votes to give you.
zwometer
I watched Ted talks about city planning and how airflow is affected but was blown away when I walked through the streets of Manhattan 1/2
zwometer
on a windy day at -13°C. Every intersection had its own storm going through it.
howbloodydareyou
Quit your whining. Boston just looks like any U.K. City
slamdance7
I actually lol'd!
shivernsnake
First time behind the wheel in the US was in Boston at 1am after a snow fall. The satnav was too slow to handle road density. Took me 1/
shivernsnake
A hour to get to the Interstate to NE. I had to drive slowly past a parked Statey (who didn't look up) down a 1 way the wrong way 2/
shivernsnake
Because I could see the in ramp at the end but not how to get to it legally. Ended up in Nashua at 4am to find it was DST transition 3/
shivernsnake
So welcome to 5am and 60m until time to get up.
DelightedTurtle
Holy shit, I live in the middle of the Boston one. Don't murder me please.
ralphie84
combat zone?
AlkeneThiol
Too late. I'm outside hi
runningjew
DC is rediculous too. Multiple Stoplights in Traffic circles, not right turn on red, stoplights are only on the right side of the street
OldManShitStainsRidesAgain
Not to mention the lanes that switch directions based on the time of day.
megamanismyhero
Wut
mantissaxx
Really? Bridges I'm used to, but normal roads?
FuzzyNuggets
It's a grid system moutha fucka
LayersOfNastiness
LOST IN NEW YORK!?
GoAwayGetaway
Y'all don't EVEN KNOW. Atlanta surface streets are jacked up. Terrible signage. Cool post though +1
toomuchpanicnotenoughdisco
The Roman city model is very easy to spot all throughout Europe. It's step 1 in looking at urban planning history really.
whereisthenutella
Rome was never really planned, it's just the way it grew up. https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2016/mar/15/story-cities-part-2-secret-ancie
whereisthenutella
https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2016/mar/15/story-cities-part-2-secret-ancient-rome (wrong link)
toomuchpanicnotenoughdisco
Well yes but cities built by Romans using the Roman urban model are very meticulously planned. Source: I live in a Roman-founded city
NotACanadian
Who didn't tend to plan ahead for when the planned city outgrows its population...then it becomes more haphazard.
toomuchpanicnotenoughdisco
Exactly. Most European cities have a Roman center that's very regular then medieval growth is a shitshow.
grandfalloon
Don't go pretending Rome has any organization. It's been a cluster fuck for millennia.
Nepeta33
and then theres boston. fucking ridiculous and IMPOSSABLE to navigate
jeffcosta123
Actually.... it's quite simple.... but that's if you grew up here >:D
mvfx
yes!
Nepeta33
im in hanover. fucking impossable
VoxDawg
They're selling Atlanta short on the level of fucked-uppityness of its roads.
cincoparalinko
I was about to say...that is probably the best looking section of Atlanta roads.
darkskies582
Clifton Rd for instance
HenryFondle
Most of the highways were cow paths to Terminus, and the grid system doesn't align because of Sherman.
HenryFondle
And they saved 3 million? dollars by combining 75 and 85, creating the downtown connector. And it's plagued the ATL ever since.
MagpieDuchess
And that every single one of them is named fucking Peachtree something or another!
Starspawn
Here's an accurate roadmap of the US. Anywhere, at any level of zoom
SaintGodMemorial
Uhh, sorry that your navigational experience was so wonderful?
theresgarlicinthatnebula
You haven't been to the northeast, I take it?
LemFliggity
You've never been to the US, have you?
Regdabmaof
PLSS
tinyhighlife
Trivia! Where's the starting point?
Regdabmaof
Near Liverpool right? Ohio PA WV borderlands?
tinyhighlife
You get a cookie!
Regdabmaof
All this survey knowledge was bound to pay off. Are you a surveyor/gis analyst?
mburicao
Atlanta traffic is fucked up..
fullbodysweater
Seattle too...I'm guessing every major city is pretty bad w traffic these days. Too many people, not enough transit
SweetTeaYankee
vidiv
YEP. NOT looking forwards to it later this year when I return...
Tkeleth
bumper to bumper whether you're going 5 or 85
mynameismoreoriginalthanyours
Lived here my whole life and I can tell you that you must adjust your routine to the natural rhythm of the city. Which is unpredictable af
heyart
Meh. It's not that unpredictable.
TheFuckfaceWhisperer
And when it's raining. Double that. 85 from Newnan to KATL (~40 miles) at 6:30am in the rain? Parking lot.
TankardHoot
It would help if half the roads weren't literally paved cow paths.
hiimmat
Was looking for this comment.
MoreCowBellBaby
Drove through Atlanta, gotta agree, it was stacked. Also smells like tires. The rest of the state smells like Cmas trees tho
IronMustachio
That's because you name every road Peachtree. It's confusing.
Mntbkrchk1979
It is a mixture of Nascar and "Dude, watch this"
mburicao
FishyNewAccount
Interesting story about why ATL roads are the way they are. When the city was being built, it was originally a whole bunch of farms.
FishyNewAccount
Each farm had a whole bunch of roads which the farmers built themselves, These roads have since become the main roads in Atlanta,
FishyNewAccount
If you look at maps of some other cities, you can see meticulous planning, but Atlanta just happened to become a city due to railroads.
VWWWWWV
I just moved here...What's up with cars catching on fire everytime on 400?
vidiv
I don't know, but I saw one when I was driving north out of the city last year...
mburicao
I grew up in ATL and gotta tell ya that cars on fire become more sensations almost every Monday Morning..
MahDingDongStrong
I saw one on 285 during Valentine's Day...drivers were not happy
MotherfuckinFalcoandShit
Ladders in the road on 285, burned out cars on 400. It's an Atlanta thing.
IHeartBouncyThings
400 south is the states drag strip. Some cars don't make it.
Flygirlgtomx
Let's build more buildings and a new stadium but never expand or build more roads. -Atlanta
mynameismoreoriginalthanyours
This right here.
IHeartBouncyThings
2 new stadiums
BrokenRubbersOhno
Chicago got it right with a grid system after their city burnt down.
thegarlicawakens
I had to downvote the post as @OP copied the text and picture formatting from the source verbatim. I expect a poster's opinion.
maxwellstorm
as someone in NY the grid system is great
CertifiedPreOwnedButtPlug
I'd like to see DC. A little bit of Paris, with a little bit of New York
daementia
You're goddamn right.
Alexmercer89
too soon
tThomas633
Just... don't be Canberra with their circles. Seriously. Just no.
RoundThreeFIGHT
Utah got started with a grid system day one. Super easy to navigate
TopgunIsTheBestMovieEver
Except, when you get to salt lake you have a grid system that uses only numbers for street names. That is confusing.
lauxemlamae
Just remember the temple is the center of it all! I work on 100 south so I get a view of Moroni looking down at me every day!
redloki55
accidentally walked the longer blocks once because I'm not from there and someone said it was only 10 blocks...10 long fucking blocks...
redloki55
also it was cold and I was dressed for the weather...well, I just didn't plan to be out and about that long...
venomlash
Yeah and we also navigate by the lake. Confused the hell out of my folks when they moved to California.
BrokenRubbersOhno
Only problem with Chicago is that anything north above (0,0) has a name. Anything south is numbered. Would prefer all numbered, but meh
BrokenRubbersOhno
streets that run east and west are what i am referring to.
bb2b
Dubai uses very modern city planning concepts, it's fascinating. Truly modern cities would use hexagons and fractal branching! (Think mould)
redbagelpuppies
Nah, I'm scared of bees.
dflr
Care to elaborate? I'd love to hear more about those things!
bb2b
Hexagons essentially turn everything into a trucker-route. Minimal hard-corners to reduce traffic flow for a very minor increase in distance
bb2b
Fractal roads branch off from a trunk with heavier industries / traffic being close to the entrance and exit--
bb2b
with lower-traffic being behind them so they can build up to a main trunk and exit / enter smoothly.
philcollinsdrumbreakdown
That would be terrible for traffic
bb2b
How so?
bloodtypeinfinity
Constant. Fucking. Turns.
bb2b
That's not traffic, that's user experience though.
DeadpanToucan
I still get freaked out using lower Wacker though
BrokenRubbersOhno
Ugh if I got robbed there wouldn
RogersTheShrubber
http://imgur.com/zFIG2L1
petitenova
Everyone does. Anyone who doesn't is lying.
DogPeppers
That is just for the hardcore residents. Tourists know to stay away.
DeadpanToucan
And if they don't know they learn real fuckin quick
youknowwhatiamsaying
"Gps signal lost".
BrokenRubbersOhno
Ugh if I got robbed there wouldn't be a way to call the cops!
BrokenRubbersOhno
Ugh if I got robbed there wouldn't be a way to call the cops!
ChemicalFox
I hate that GPSs can't differentiate between upper and lower Wacker. Trying to get to the Swissotel with a GPS is a pain.
msWoodsy
Same experience. So glad to finally get highjacked and walk to the Swiss.
msWoodsy
Same experience. So glad to finally get highjacked and walk to the Swiss.
Wuhaa
Grid cities are so boring tho'
skirmisher24
In the 17th and 18th centuries, planners were obsessed with plowing diagonals through their cities so you aren't alone.
Chunky4life
Tell that to Barcelona. A shitload of that city is grid and its incredible
Kompi
Yes but thats because almost each group og grids have a park, garden or traversable area in the middle. Makes it feel more organic
Millillion
usability > interestingness
RogersTheShrubber
Better than trying to navigate the butthole of streets that is boston
Wuhaa
I'm from Europe, I'm used to stuff like that, how bad can it really be?
CRUSTYSMEGMA
the butthole of streets... yeah, that's a pretty accurate description
FeloniousDrunk101
Yeah but that city is so damn small that it's hard to get lost.
trevasaurusrex
So long as you know which direction that one way is going to go. It's a mess!!
noveltyanomaly
except when your driving....clusterfuck central
BrokenRubbersOhno
Have you been to Chicago?
Wuhaa
Well I'm not dead, so you take a guess.
Katzendaugs
You sassy bitch
bortmackie
If you think anyone who visits Chicago gets shot, then yeah, you haven't been there
Wuhaa
http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/992/401/e37.png
IAlwaysUpvoteRickAndMorty
Shots fir-er... shots not fired!
hurtfulpurple
SacTown in the house!!!
TinkerThinker42
916
hurtfulpurple
Have you heard about the new area code?
TinkerThinker42
No. Are there no more 916 numbers?
NickOffermansGiggle
We're going to run out in September. They're going to start issuing 279 after that.
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NickOffermansGiggle
http://www.sacbee.com/news/local/article131803869.html
TinkerThinker42
I guess I'm never giving up my number then.
hurtfulpurple
It's real. The bee published the story last week.
FeloniousDrunk101
I still think New York is one of the most navigable cities by vehicle, foot, or public transit (definitely not bicycle.)
Krakk3N
New York and portland make the most sense
Northoftheborder
Boosted board.
mspaintlad
I think you need to live in a good handful of different cities around the world before you can claim that tbh
FeloniousDrunk101
Fair enough. I've spent a lot of time in many cities all over the world, but never lived in one (NYC included) but I'm sure that would help.
TheThirteenthDoctor
And London
Krakk3N
New York and portland make the most sense.
MotoH
Ease of interpretability yes, but not the quickest from point a to b.
bf3c
I love biking in new york. it can be a little intense at times, but I think it is the best way to get around.
RespectfullyDisagreee
Hey hey, I want to see DC get mentioned here. Aside from a few random state names, just letters and numbers.
Ewoutvhw
To be honest, to get around with a bicycle you need dedicated bicycle lanes and drivers who are used to watching for cyclists.
Ewoutvhw
The Netherlands and Denmark do this better than anyone, in The Netherlands there are actually more bikes than people.
chickieboomboom
Phoenix is a grid system as well
Shewy92
I think New York and portland make the most sense but I'm not sure
alostgeneration
The subway is pretty easy to navigate once you learn what the colors and numbers mean not to mention it was built by 3 separate companies
Cere4l
as someone from a small village, subways are made by the devil *hides back in little corner*
MrCaramelMedic
I disagree with the bike part of that statement.
zippityhooha
really? I live in NY. Cars treat bikers like trash.
PilgrimScott
Me too. Source: used to ride about 6 miles from LIC to Chelsea. Fun and healthy.
PilgrimScott
Me too. Source: used to ride about 6 miles from LIC to Chelsea. Fun and healthy.
Gobuyussomecoffee
?? Uptown Manhattan they made a bike lane on some streets... Now cabs double park there. Biking in NYC is suicide!!!
alostgeneration
Manhattan was planned from the beginning to be an easy grid with Aves tuning NS and Streets going EW for the most part (downtown gets tricky
acirclesquared
And in Boston they followed a cow around and just decided 3/4 f the streets are 1 way.
Dongskanker
Philly is about the same
Mmmbopanddropit
LOL
ItsOkayItsOfficial
I know you're right, but I've lived all over the world -Beirut, Stuttgart, Montreal, Kansas City- yet I've never been lost except in NYC.
freedam
How did you like Beirut?
ItsOkayItsOfficial
Incredible, just incredible. Went to uni there, lived on both sides of the city, miss it everyday
freedam
You there just for uni?
ItsOkayItsOfficial
for the women mostly
Pyranamus
Wooo go KC!!
Gobuyussomecoffee
Looking for crack?
Steylor
How can you get lost in NYC? It's so simple and clear, you always know were you are. I wish all cities were designed like NYC.
tahorg
Lost in NYC ? Must be outside manhattan then ...
SaintGodMemorial
Pretty easy to get lost in Queens
Steylor
How can you get lost in NYC? It's so simple and clear, you always know were you are. I wish all cities were designed like NYC.
PacomeDeCardognac
Historian here: no.
Steylor
:) I know we had our reason here in Italy, for example, to design them in another way. Still I get lost easier in Milan than NYC.
PacomeDeCardognac
Yes. Getting lost does suck. I live in London, come from Nice, Lived in Paris. Often lost. But still, grids are...no. just no.
ItsOkayItsOfficial
God that would suck
Krakk3N
New York and portland make the most sense
alostgeneration
Portland only makes sense by its layout. It gets weird over there
Krakk3N
I like portland it reminds me alot of a less populated san francisco.
dragonborn4life
Shhh a Californian will hear you and move here.
Krakk3N
I'm a californian (45 min from sf) and I've thought about it
AManNeedsAnotherName
I'm a portlandian...plz don't move here
Krakk3N
Im a californian (45 min from sf) and I've thought about it.
Krakk3N
Lol it's to slow of a city
VerticalInfinity
Nooo, we have Um... Bears. Yea lots of bears.