There you go, what I've been saying all along, these ministers and priests, they are all radical urban terrorists... or is he a gay, trans, immigrant, leftie? One of them anyway, I'm sure that Bondi or Patel or someone will tell us why he needed to be maced... /s
I dont want to really call for it, but i think we need to be like shepherd book on firefly. "God doesn't condone killing, he is a little vague of kneecaps though."
Federal law enforcement, which Trump has been increasingly using as his own private army since they're not bound to the same restrictions as the actual military.
They're Feds - now that the bar has been lowered beyond belief for education, intelligence, fitness, and ethics.. Source: Check out the "Light duties" footwear on Tubbyfuck #3.
Funny, they look like oppressive and invasive troops to me, exactly the enemy (foreign or domestic) real troops swear to defend the U.S against, don't they?
I hear you, but at least at this stage, our troops are wearing actual uniforms and behaving (a little) more professionally. No, this is NOT an endorsement of NG wandering about cities of course, they have better things to do - but at least they aren't this sub-par rabble of wannabes.
Oh didn't see this until now. Theism/Atheism = Belief Agnostic/Gnostic = Knowing with certainty. I'm an Agnostic Atheist. I don't believe in a deity and open to evidence and given that the bigger the claim the bigger the evidence you'd need some very heavy evidence or I'm just not going to be persuaded.
Idk exactly how this person is using it, but most common understanding is theism is statement of belief, while gnosticism is statement of knowledge. One might be an agnostic atheist, or a gnostic atheist (hard atheist), likewise for theistic positions. Partly about confidence level, partly about burden of proof. For example I'm agnostic atheist about deistic propositions, but gnostic atheist about specific God claims like the Bible, since the properties can't coexist and the book is nonsense
Thanks and well stated. I'm a Gnostic Atheist for the Christian Gods (3:1 whatever), Gnostic Atheist for Thor, but Agnostic Atheist for the broader concept which is vague enough that nailing down the definition of what a god is will definitely send sparks flying.
Yeah the thing with deism is an inherently unfalsifiable proposition and the same properties that make it unfalsifiable also make it totally useless. It's just vibes/ god of the gaps. They're pointing at the limits of scientific understanding and saying look! There's a guy there!
I'm agnostic but my dad has a PhD in religious studies so I get lots of tidbits. Presbyterians are a low-control, decentralized offshoot of Christianity unlike American Evangelism or the Catholic church. It's closer to the Unitarian church which is actually pro-LGBTQ+. I suspect that the Chicago Presbyterians are just looking out for their community here and literally practicing what they preach.
For clarification: United Methodist are more liberal. Global Methodist (in the US) recently spit with the United Methodist Church over views on human sexuality, i.e. wanting to exclude LBGTQ+ community.
The house across the street from mine is owned by the Methodist church on the corner and the reverend lives there - the various reverends we've had over the decades have been some of the most insanely cool liberal people I've ever met. Wife and I are both atheist but we even asked one of them to officiate our wedding cause they're so awesome. Another was an openly bi woman who I saw marching in pride parades in solidarity. One of the few religious organizations I respect
I think being suspicious is not the right framework. I'd encourage curiosity until you get a red flag. So US evangelism = brainwashed nutjobs. But if a church is flying a pride flag, maybe they're actually just cool people in a very specific book club. Unitarians, for example, are technically a Christian sect but they'll give sermons on Buddhist texts.
As a Unitarian Universalist, here’s the simple version:
The social liberal philosophy of “let’s have tolerance and peace” didn’t start in the 1960s, or the 1860s, or even the 1760s. It’s as old as human history, and on MANY occasions through that time, traditions, religions, and churches have been based on that ideal.
The anti-religion zealots like to throw all religious folks together under the “ignorant bigot” label, but that’s just another prejudice in disguise.
Very well put. And important here on imgur as we get the "all religion bad" comments all the damn time. Religion can be actively harmful, actively positive, or attempting to be good but misguided. If you flatten "religion" to a single concept and condemn it, you're just a fundamentalist but for atheism.
IncrediRis
C’MON CHI TOWN - im rooting for you!!
MikeRInternetTraveler
Watch out! He’s wearing his Tactical Vans!
MushinMan
What an action shot!
FleaTron
Ah yes, the tactical vans lo-tops that are required to spray a clergyman with mace.
rbudrick
A simple plastic face shield like nurses wore during covid may have helped here. Remember to bring yours.
oo0ORB0oo
I am not religious but I understand that you do not do shit like that to good people.
SpectreA19
Who do I call to report anti-Christian attacks pursuant to the Commander-in-Cheetos recent EO
OriginalAndWitty
if your only tools are hammers, everything looks like a nail... on purpose.
ProbablyOnlyOnce
Every*one* looks like a nail.
KommanderKayriel
Sounds like we need more hammers on our side.
flacoloco
ohwhenwilldeathcome
(Sorry) https://media2.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTY1YjkxZmJldnZycGt0cmFqM3ByM2h4YjAzbDg3OXl2OHBwaHM2NGUyb2d2eTNmbyZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/LmxxotgMjTj32/200w.mp4
frosss
Don't catch you slippin now
IIikethecutofyourjib
Another attack on Christians
NKato
People who use american flag patterned face masks are basically wiping their face with the flag. It is a tremendous disrespect to the country.
dingybasement350
I'm less concerned about what they're doing to the flag and more concerned about what they're doing human rights.
NKato
Yes, I know. But the Venn diagram of people who use the American flag for dirty things and are willing to do terrible things is nearly a circle.
TheInitiated
Good going, Padre! Seems he actually read the fantasy novel.
SoulfireUK
Trumps right, Christian’s are being attacked!!! /s
DJOldguy
There you go, what I've been saying all along, these ministers and priests, they are all radical urban terrorists... or is he a gay, trans, immigrant, leftie? One of them anyway, I'm sure that Bondi or Patel or someone will tell us why he needed to be maced... /s
terrywat5
I bet Wink Martindale is turning over in his grave right now.
Base841
I'm pretty sure this happened a week ago, September 20th. (Photos: Faith leaders protest ICE activity in the Chicago area - Chicago Sun-Times)
Boatdoctor
I dont want to really call for it, but i think we need to be like shepherd book on firefly. "God doesn't condone killing, he is a little vague of kneecaps though."
zombywoof68
Source - the Chicago Sun-Times. https://chicago.suntimes.com/immigration/2025/09/20/protesters-arrested-broadview-ice
derpman4k
But I thought the right were about Christian values?
Maybe getting rid of the brown people is more important now ig...
DanCodyComics
They don't like Catholics, though.
4chyn
Genuinely don’t know which person you are speaking of
ChewyChips1302
That took me way too long.....and if it's not a good joke.... then I need to go to bed
Quebeker
Not those Christian values. Gop jesus values
EternallyIgnorant
Trump trumps Jesus.
TresusIbor
Kirk Jesus values
ghostofGracchusBabeuf
I’m not generally a huge fan of Presbyterians but you can tell something of the quality of a man by their enemies
zombywoof68
I was ordained and married at First Presbyterian Church of Chicago. I'm proud that their pastor is standing with those Jesus would have sided with.
75townecoupe
"They don't look like Presbyterians to me"
Goblinpunker
Odd; when I was in the army it was a war crime to use gas on civilians, much less our own civilians.
420supercoolusername69
Again? Didn’t he get it a few weeks ago?
zombywoof68
This photo is from 9-20-25. I don't know how long Rev. Black has been at this. Source is the Chicago Sun-Times. https://chicago.suntimes.com/immigration/2025/09/20/protesters-arrested-broadview-ice
BangerFox
Respect for someone who repeatedly goes back for more
Solkanarmy
reminds me a bit of that very well-known photo where the vietnamese guy is being executed
awizzaza
Great photo. Who gets the credit?
Radiogoogooo
It really is. Kinda renaissance/ey
zombywoof68
Source - the Chicago Sun-Times. https://chicago.suntimes.com/immigration/2025/09/20/protesters-arrested-broadview-ice
4charactersorlongerwasalreadytaken
Ashlee Rezin https://www.ashleerezin.com/
Nizlee
He's fucking wearing Vans!
nojustsayitdont
Are those troops or COPs doing the spraying there?
BeesechurgerProductions
Federal law enforcement, which Trump has been increasingly using as his own private army since they're not bound to the same restrictions as the actual military.
Geoffron
If those were troops, their camo would match.
themigbro
Also the guy wears snickers, no boots. These are proud boys in disguise
Turbogoat
They're Feds - now that the bar has been lowered beyond belief for education, intelligence, fitness, and ethics.. Source: Check out the "Light duties" footwear on Tubbyfuck #3.
Fentex
Funny, they look like oppressive and invasive troops to me, exactly the enemy (foreign or domestic) real troops swear to defend the U.S against, don't they?
Turbogoat
I hear you, but at least at this stage, our troops are wearing actual uniforms and behaving (a little) more professionally. No, this is NOT an endorsement of NG wandering about cities of course, they have better things to do - but at least they aren't this sub-par rabble of wannabes.
suiseiseki
I may be an atheist but I respect the hell out of someone that stands up to these bullies. Follow his lead when and where you can.
1songbird365
I think he’s following Jesus’ example
1songbird365
Unlike the “Christians” that are following MAGA
fishballshoe
So... are actually atheist. Or do you accept that maybe there is s god? ?? Thats the annoying part. Maybe you are agnostic
suiseiseki
Oh didn't see this until now. Theism/Atheism = Belief Agnostic/Gnostic = Knowing with certainty. I'm an Agnostic Atheist. I don't believe in a deity and open to evidence and given that the bigger the claim the bigger the evidence you'd need some very heavy evidence or I'm just not going to be persuaded.
tentacularfleshscape
Idk exactly how this person is using it, but most common understanding is theism is statement of belief, while gnosticism is statement of knowledge. One might be an agnostic atheist, or a gnostic atheist (hard atheist), likewise for theistic positions.
Partly about confidence level, partly about burden of proof. For example I'm agnostic atheist about deistic propositions, but gnostic atheist about specific God claims like the Bible, since the properties can't coexist and the book is nonsense
suiseiseki
Thanks and well stated. I'm a Gnostic Atheist for the Christian Gods (3:1 whatever), Gnostic Atheist for Thor, but Agnostic Atheist for the broader concept which is vague enough that nailing down the definition of what a god is will definitely send sparks flying.
tentacularfleshscape
Yeah the thing with deism is an inherently unfalsifiable proposition and the same properties that make it unfalsifiable also make it totally useless. It's just vibes/ god of the gaps. They're pointing at the limits of scientific understanding and saying look! There's a guy there!
Ninjainslippers
I'm agnostic but my dad has a PhD in religious studies so I get lots of tidbits. Presbyterians are a low-control, decentralized offshoot of Christianity unlike American Evangelism or the Catholic church. It's closer to the Unitarian church which is actually pro-LGBTQ+. I suspect that the Chicago Presbyterians are just looking out for their community here and literally practicing what they preach.
fishballshoe
Settle down
geminikira452
Learned new thing, thank you for sharing.
Delathi
Presbyterians, Unitarians, Methodists (US methodists), and (ELCA) Lutherans tend to be fairly liberal in comparison to the wackjobs.
bed1125
For clarification: United Methodist are more liberal. Global Methodist (in the US) recently spit with the United Methodist Church over views on human sexuality, i.e. wanting to exclude LBGTQ+ community.
Lynkfox
The house across the street from mine is owned by the Methodist church on the corner and the reverend lives there - the various reverends we've had over the decades have been some of the most insanely cool liberal people I've ever met. Wife and I are both atheist but we even asked one of them to officiate our wedding cause they're so awesome. Another was an openly bi woman who I saw marching in pride parades in solidarity. One of the few religious organizations I respect
johnvictor
Not all off shoots of Christianity are total garbage certainly. But I'm always suspicious of organized religion at this point.
Ninjainslippers
I think being suspicious is not the right framework. I'd encourage curiosity until you get a red flag. So US evangelism = brainwashed nutjobs. But if a church is flying a pride flag, maybe they're actually just cool people in a very specific book club. Unitarians, for example, are technically a Christian sect but they'll give sermons on Buddhist texts.
fishballshoe
Keep it simple for the normies
Tarmaccian
As a Unitarian Universalist, here’s the simple version:
The social liberal philosophy of “let’s have tolerance and peace” didn’t start in the 1960s, or the 1860s, or even the 1760s. It’s as old as human history, and on MANY occasions through that time, traditions, religions, and churches have been based on that ideal.
The anti-religion zealots like to throw all religious folks together under the “ignorant bigot” label, but that’s just another prejudice in disguise.
Arbitrarynamehere
It's the /r/atheism phase people will grow out of in time.
Source: former user. Still atheist but not a fucking weirdo about it.
Ninjainslippers
Very well put. And important here on imgur as we get the "all religion bad" comments all the damn time. Religion can be actively harmful, actively positive, or attempting to be good but misguided. If you flatten "religion" to a single concept and condemn it, you're just a fundamentalist but for atheism.
Arbitrarynamehere
My main thing is the moment you try to legislate your religion, we've got a problem