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Long story short... since she was in third grade my SIL has been on a mission to get my, now 16 year old, niece diagnosed with anything and everything to excuse her child’s horrible behavior. She’s been diagnosed with adhd, bipolar, borderline personality disorder, ODD, and autism. (Interesting to note several doctors have insisted she’s not autistic, but that’s the diagnosis that’s stuck for Mom)The child is rude and inconsiderate. She teases my 11 year old son relentlessly and neither of her parents say a word to her about her behavior. When I speak up she pitches a fit. Needless to say I keep contact with this part of the family minimal. She’s been at a very small private school for years but will be start at a large public high school next week. She fully expects to “run the place within a week.” Not only will the teachers not put up with her shit the other kids are going to tear her a new one. It sounds cruel, but it’s what she needs.
DarkHeresy
If she has an IEP the teachers will be working with her behaviors.
KronaSamu
Maybe she does have some issues? Have you considered that? Have some sympathy asshole
Mayokopp
Poor kid
ItaloColombianAdventuresInJapan
Kid and mom need a psychiatrist.
boilachicken
If she treats your son poorly, and your sister isn’t willing step in, then sadly I don’t see a place for them at your table.
FishOnTheInternetz
This. They should vehemently prevent her from getting anywhere near OP's son.
Js1616
As someone who works with kids who have mental health issues a lot of the ones you listed stem from unsteady home environments and trauma
Js1616
A lot of the kids I’ve worked with public school either gives them a reality check or makes it worse
Astral134
But you don't want her to be literally eaten alive, right? Because that might actually make you a terrible person.
NotTinyPancakes
I got bullied so badly physically I was pulled from school during my final exams to recover and cops were involved, while you niece 1/2
NotTinyPancakes
sounds like she needs a tune up it should be her parents job as parents not school, that will ruin her and any shot of education she has.
AaronGodgers
If she does have bipolar/ borderline personality disorder, it’s not something to mess around with. Get help.
Davies46
I feel you may be a little too invested in this.
humaneffigy
She's gonna be the coolest kid in school, you sound like a fkn nerd.
humaneffigy
Go do some calculus, nerd.
Clairebitchproject
I have Borderline Personality Disorder and some of the traits you listed are very much a part of that. It’s hell living with it. 1/
Clairebitchproject
I also know that my behavior can be toxic. DBT therapy has helped a lot. People like you are no help though. Cut all ties. For her sake.
housebread
Maybe you should blame her parents and not a kid, who was raised that way, and will suffer ALOT in life because of it.
housebread
For the record. I was a similar level of cunt as a child. With many Drs putting me on many medications. That did nothing
housebread
Turned out it was thyroid cancer. Don't assume, because a dr was wrong. That the answer is she's a cunt.
nosocials
Where does this attitude leave the children who have real mental health struggles under the bad behavior?
airyll
It fucks all of us equally - the kids whose struggles get written off and the adults who become stuck and too afraid to ask for help.
Ilikeyogurt
This so much this
CommentsAreDumb
Is your niece the cash me ousside girl?
MsMax75
No. Howboutdat?
Johnny5dicks
To be fair, she could be in the spectrum a little.
DrGhoshkiMD
With all of those dx's, she should be getting treatment for most if not all of those conditions. Especially as a young child.
TakeItEasyPolicy
Quite christmasy spirit there , OP. Well done for a being a douchebag
TheFireFerret
One thing I've learned from working with disabled children is that being an asshole is a learned condition, not a medical one
mormacil
Barring some really rare conditions, agreed. ODD and CD are a thing afterall.
NowShowButthole
Lots of young people need to go through that it seems. You can even see them here on imgur and tell they don't have real world experience.
GrandmaSlappy
I was a bully until middle school when it reversed. Now I’m an anxious bleeding heart empathic introvert.
Boondangle40
Big fish in a small pond
CaffeineManic
Or she'll become the bully everybody fears & one of her victims will return to school with a suitcase full of weapons & kill everybody.
cpnbeeb
No way, zero tolerance totally works. Honest.
shoopdaawhoop
I bet you're fun to have at parties.
MsMax75
This seems likely. Now I’m worried.
TrikStari
If it happens, blame her parents for not parenting. Sounds like the girl needs the belt.
mormacil
Driving a kid to suicide os much more likely. Don't worry the body count is likely to be lower.
Ragellian
Youre a liar OP. You dont just get handed a BPD, ODD and ADD diagnosis together.
mormacil
What? I've seen collections like that. Terrible when they converge but a lot are related. Like ADD, ASS and schizophrenia.
MsMax75
She’s been to many different doctors. These are over the course of the last 9 years.
ialwaysexpectthespanishinqusition
As someone with autism public school is the right thing as it shows you you can’t control shit
mormacil
Also autistic, disagree. There other ways. Mentally scarring a diagnosed teenager doesn't seem the right way IMO. Kids are insanely cruel.
NotTinyPancakes
Also Autistic, I was bullied physically so badly for it that I had to be removed to recover because all the teachers made public note of it
ElvisStarburst
Public school was the worst thing for me. I would've sunk forever had I not been taken to a school where I actually had time to not be 1/2
ElvisStarburst
2/3 miserable every single day cause of the entire student body hating me and the amount of schoolwork being too overwhelming. I admit that
ElvisStarburst
3/3 it was very much a me problem, but private schools put me in an environment that understands what I had to deal with daily. It saved me
J4ckR4nd0m
As someone with autism I agree with this.
MemesOfGlore
Who the fuck says that for real
cpnbeeb
Shitheels that have never been on the receiving end of their own bullshit.
MemesOfGlore
Lets put a living raccoon in their pillows
Thresholdpush
Sounds like my cousin. She's been diagnosed with sociopathy and NPD. I can't stand the little twit. Her mother is an antivaxxer/oils peddler
mormacil
Diagnosed with sociopathy? That can explain truly horrific behavior. Lets hope she learns.
Thresholdpush
She was getting in shit for harassing her younger brother, and actually claimed "oh my God, I can't see!" to try to feign sudden illness.
Thresholdpush
Crazy asshole...
glassweaver
You know what? Good. Now buy her a plane ticket to Africa. I hate antivaxers but I feel like it's an opportunity here.
Thresholdpush
Seriously... Seems like a decent plan.
readyedwardfield9
It sounds cruel, and makes YOU sound like a jerk.
voltanton
Cuck
firstlaughofthedaythankyou
Look what ya did you lil jerk
MsMax75
In what way? I’m a jerk for thinking a teenager needs to know the way she treats people is inappropriate?
IzzyBelleRes
For gleefully revelling in a child being harmed. Its gross. Rather than see her get help you'd rather see her go through hell
sweetlittlebee
School might not teach her that. Other kids who are just as horrible could latch onto her and might reinforce her behavior.
theprincethatshallcome
What if she does have mental issues and you're a bad human being?
voltanton
Cuck
MrJBK99
Cluck
Zzzinthevalley
You can have mental health issues/disabilities and still be an asshole. It comes down to knowing right from wrong and by 16 you usually do.
mormacil
Unless there's literally a mental health issue interfering with that directly. Or the ability for impulse control etc.
MsMax75
I’ve been watching this unfold since she was a toddler. I am an ESE teacher who works with kids who have autism all the time. That said
MsMax75
I am likely a terrible person for reasons unrelated to this post.
mormacil
Yeah that kitten did nothing wrong :(
theprincethatshallcome
I believe you.
Picklestherat
Im with you. My brother was babied by our parents because of how smart he is. Never got plunged into normal society. Now hes an awkward jerk
tallroses
Would you rather he be a drop out with a record? Seriously, some of my students are in that sinking boat
l8rz
Why not neither?
tallroses
That's a great plan, but if I go off my students who just get in trouble over and over, some maybe would do bette in a dif environment.
l8rz
Makes sense. Keep up the good work dude.
jaakkopaakkonen
That's fucked up. If he is smart, he would need more discipline and guidance than others. He is the one who had to cope with stupid society
cscottdostuff
Hah! I was "the smart one
cscottdostuff
in my family and my mom showered me with discipline because I had to cope with all the stupid people, family included. It was "homework 1/
cscottdostuff
and perseverance" and I managed to cope... decently? Your comment made me laugh.
shano510
What a shame. That's gotta be hard for him. It's hard to shake the effects of parenting in those years when you're building your self worth
YourFriendlyNeighborhoodWizard
I feel like my cousin will turn out this way. Except he’s not a jerk. Just babied like crazy. He’s 14 and my aunt treats him like he’s 6.
MnightShariaLaw
In what way? Does she feed him?
YourFriendlyNeighborhoodWizard
Not enough characters. He’s a small kid since he was sick all the time when he was little so she can still carry him around somewhat
l8rz
Adam?
NimikoKiri
I was always the smart kid in the family (per my parents words) so I never really had to work for anything. Now that I do, it sucks ass.
cscottdostuff
Same. By stroke of luck I found a job (restaurant) where intelligence and hard work are revered and the managers are so good at 1/
cscottdostuff
distinguishing the two and praising only the hard work part. The 4 years I've been there have really shaped me.
BallsLikeWatermelonsPeckerLikeAThimble
Some folk need a generous helping of “knock off the bullshit.” But some parents don’t drop the hammer.
StraightToCatFolder
If she has ODD then tough love will not work. These people feed of confrontation.
ItaloColombianAdventuresInJapan
CHANCLA. Kids these days need CHANCLA in their lives. Even some parents deserve a CHANCLA in their face once in a while
LadyKatie
Boundaries. If parents don’t give them, kids will keeeeeep trying to find them in new and horrible ways. Say it with me folks. “No.”
wipethatfaceoffyourheadbitch
My nephew has Asperger’s but sometimes he uses it as an excuse to be a rude, stubborn shit. Has his mom jump for every bullshit quirk.
HetIsBob
I sometimes can't help but think "it's because of my Asperger's" and it really takes away a part of who i am, sometimes i wish i 1/?
HetIsBob
2/? Didn't know i had it so i would still be able to look for things to better about myself without thinking maybe it's because of the ASD
Hunteristic
It’s probably safe to assume the answer is “Yes, most likely my ASD has at least a little effect on everything I do.”
Hunteristic
And just give an effort towards your own continued improvement, regardless of that consideration.
JayEnfield
When I was a kid, I tried pulling that shit. Didn't get me anywhere. Every time I ever mentioned it as a young adult, I severely regretted.
ilhares
We had treatment for this back when I was a kid.
neborno
Shame its considered child abuse now.
ConstableDuggins
“30 day free trial” lmfao
StraightToCatFolder
My chaotic brother used to pick fights with my dad for as long as I can remember. Some people just don’t give a shit.
TemetNosce000
Many people can't see the difference between a spanking vs beating up a child. It blows my mind.
ItaloColombianAdventuresInJapan
There is also the CHANCLA alternative to discipline
gibusgodblaziken13
not the CHANCLA; LA CHANCLA!
MK1Maniac
Missing a reference to Jumper Cables...
jonestown
Most professionals don't just hand out diagnoses without a reason. Your niece sounds like a troubled kid. I hope that HS is helpful to her.
SexDrugsBirdsandRocknRoll
Yeah, even if it's not all real sounds like there's something going on
DidNotIntendToBeHereThisLong
It took me way to long to find a supportive comment! The parents are probably tired and want to avoid a meltdown. Being a parent is hard
SuperXero1
It's far more than hard. But that's not an excuse to get a child diagnosed with that many issues and on medication when they need a parent.
ilovecake
I’ve had one doctor try and diagnose me with mitral valve prolapse without any testing done. Another doctor after 20 min try to say
ilovecake
That I’m bipolar (I absolutely am not nor have anything in my medical history to suggest otherwise), etc. It absolutely does happen.
ilovecake
Oh, and I don’t have mitral valve prolapse. I have PVC’s and the nitro that kook wanted to prescribe me would’ve been horrible for me.
archfile101
If you shop enough you can get any diagnosis
weman713
Yeah she’s still young. Bullying can cause some permanent harm.
JustAnotherRandomCommenter
Most, sure. But if 20 doctors say 'fine, just badly behaved' and the parents listen to the one that says 'adhd'...
SuperXero1
It's just an excuse for bad parenting. That "oh, don't mind him. He has ect" I've met alot of parents like that in my time being a parent.
humanhotplate
My sister in law is bipolar but doesnt take her meds, bipolar disorder is a frightening thing to deal with, you just never know where the
humanhotplate
Mania or depression will take them. She has a very high opinion of herself while manic, but tried to kill herself when she crashed into
humanhotplate
Depression. Kid could be a brat, but I would consider taking her to behavioral specialists.
CloverHen
Thats if they are actually diagnosing her. Mom could be lying to excuse guilt/justify doing very little.
glassweaver
....which is why mommy had to doctor shop for one willing to?
W1LDCAT44
Many people "doctor shop" to find help that works.
glassweaver
Agreed, but if you go to tons of professionals who come to the same conclusion and fixate on the ONE who gives you the label you want? ....
glassweaver
I mean, you know the difference between finding a doctor that works and window shopping until you find a dissenting opinion you like, right?
phoenixsilver
If multiple doctors have insisted the kid isn't autistic, I tend to wonder if they ever actually got that diagnosis in the first place or /1
phoenixsilver
If the mother is making it up or if an irresponsible GP just threw it out there as a suggestion to get investigated /2
phoenixsilver
And mum has now taken that as a 'diagnosis'. /3
JonnyHasACat
The comments on this post... Fucking poison. Why do people (men) want to hate so much?
myeyesthegogglesdonothing
Huh??
johnwill1480
First off how can you know the gender of the commenters? Secondly (anecdotal evidence) my girlfriend used to bartend. Said out of everyone
johnwill1480
She worked with or served the women has nastier temperaments than the men. And by all accounts she’s an easily likable person. But I’m
johnwill1480
Curious for you to elaborate on your perspective
JonnyHasACat
Late to respond to this but Imgur has a skew towards male users and tends to love incel-lite content.
tallroses
Thank you for this. My daughter is 3 and she is a handful. There is nothing "wrong" with her that we can get a clear diagnosis on, but I am
KinkyAsFuck
When my sister was that age, the doctor handed my parents a book on handling strong willed kids and said just hit her with it :)
tallroses
So afraid of what a horrible struggle school is going to be for her. I want her to like school and succeed and I know people are going to
tallroses
See me as a Mom like OP's SIL
waadgersan
My SIL has a 3yr old boy. Who’s a massive dick. But they don’t punish or be harsh with him for bad behaviour. Massively looked after. 1/?
waadgersan
I think as long as you’re firm but fair and doing your best you’ll be fine. My SIL has no one to blame but her and the BIL as they 2/?
doctorPTdoctor
I was a nightmare as a 3yo but ended up with a doctorate, married, lots of good friends. Mom says w/o her tough love I’d prob be in jail
Thorinori
I mean, they are 3. They aren't exactly well developed yet in general, so give it a bit of time before worrying?
tallroses
She's been receiving services for over a year. She's had like 6 dif evals. Every professional that has evaluated her has been worried
Phthaloh
Girls can be hard to diagnose. My 18 yr old coasted through school. Good grades, good behaviour. She shutsdown in public and has meltdowns..
Phthaloh
At home. So teachers didn't see it. She refuses social interactions. So cant get her to go see anybody. Anxiety and depression dont help.
Phthaloh
But we are working through it. She has friends online now. Life is improving.
tallroses
Thank you for sharing this. All her therapists are in love with her, but she won’t look a stranger in the eye
ConricE9
I’m quite excited for this too now, post updates please.
Allanonshea1
I would also like this
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Updates would be dope
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Doxsis
You want me to kill that guy for you? Cause I will totally kill that guy for you.
MsMax75
Not sure what guy you’re talking about. Thank you for the offer but I’m going to decline at this time.
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Bust out the spy equipment and get us some deets
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uniruler
Sounds like Parents can't control their kid. Hope reality check helps her behavior. Want updates as well plz.
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*gathering snack food intensifies*
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^this
frostybox
i live for cunts getting their come-uppance.
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Why tho
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we will require an update
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I was gonna upvote but you’re sitting at 666 upvotes and I didn’t want to ruin that
Ketheres
Come back, people ruined it
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Yes, updates as they become available please.
xDixieBiscuit
Fucking hear you loud and clear, my dude. No, you aren't a bad person. Sometimes it is a mental disorder. But sometimes, the kid's a brat!
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AliBarber
And more often than not it's the parents fault.
Zzzinthevalley
And a mental disorder doesn’t excuse all asshole behavior.
SkinnyFist
This. I'm experiencing it within this household but with two kids. The parents are delusional and say, "it's them expressing themselves."
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Today i learned how to gain more follower on social media and keep audience hooked
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For real. People love watching a good train wreck from a distance. I’m no different.
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Took me a minute to remember that people will just leave a period (aka "dot") as a comment like a bookmark, so they get notifications. ?
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MsMax75
I don’t always get them when it’s bad news. Living in a state of denial takes some effort.
Mayyybe
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Dalael
Not good enough. We're emtionally invested now.
BESTtaylorINAUSTRALIA
I'm going to tick your profile, I will live in hope
Fragarach
I didn't realise denial was a state, I thought it was a river
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Any updates?
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Freyer
I had a nephew exactly like you described. It was rough.
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Donvah
If they mention anything about the staff being idiots, just tell them their daughter clearly doesn't know how to make anyone happy. GLHF
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Whats GLHF?
Donvah
Good Luck Have Fun
mobileimgurlags
That doesn't help but hopefully someone knows
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I'll follow your account keep us posted as much as you can OP. Sincerely a researcher
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I hope u understand that god will cut u up and send u to every kind of hell there is
SisterFister69Hitler
The most they’ll say is how she’s getting bullied after that point.
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Followed op
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Update me please!
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I could doot in. But I've never received an update notification.
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The dot is for you to check. Not for them to send you updates.
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dootin for interest
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Should be interesting
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BrainTaffy
I have a niece like this as well, the denial (and pandering to said denial) is epic and terrible. Good luck, and update 'em if you got 'em!
MrPhukett
Me me me! I want updates!
VoidofStatic
Well we all know that brat is going to get floored like being hit by a turbo charged rocket steam roller. It's going to hurt hard too.
reflecter
Just play along with their delusions and they might open up and share some juicy stories for us to enjoy.
johnwill1480
Dang you’ve either put some thought into this one or done it before
reflecter
Several years in tech support proved that this is a great way to establish rapport with people, especially arrogant ones.
johnwill1480
Interesting tactic. Makes sense. I imagine you’ve come across some terribly dense folks.
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Tell the school what you told us.
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Sign me up for updates please
SFMGifs
What, like Alabama? They can can deny all the incest they want. State’s still full of inbreeding. Oh... like mental state... oh.
IAmTheBadW01f
Post their contact information so we can stalk them for you
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