A country founded by puritan conservatives who left Europe because European fascist regimes weren't fascist enough. Surprise Pikachu face that it's a conservative hellscape.
I wonder how people not in America view imgur... is imgur still world wide?? Cuz, if I didnt live there i wouldn't give one flying fuck about this or why its blown up all over the front page.
On paper, yes. But in reality, no. We have a right to form civil militias to defend ourselves and that has been interpreted to mean a right to individually own and in many places openly and publicly carry arms. However if people actually did form a militia to openly carry arms and defend citizens from ICE raids they would be shot and/or arrested pretty much immediately meaning that functionally no we do not have that right.
Yes, and if a militia mustered with the intent of defending citizens from ICE, they would be shot and/or arrested. It doesn't matter that they have the right to be there, to own and bear arms, and to defend their fellow citizens from an overreaching government, bearing arms in opposition to that government makes them criminals in the eyes of the law and the punishment for that is usually death on sight. In contrast, look at Kyle Rittenhouse bearing arms to further the goals of the government.
Conservatives consider Tyranny when the government gives food stamps to single moms. Liberals largely hate guns. Leftists are very pro gun (they call it "Under No Pretext") but are dramatically outnumbered by liberals and conservatives.
Really is a soft civil war going on in the USA with it just being one sided by an ever growing tyrannical government that the forefathers established a 2nd amendment for.
If they're not gonna identify themselves, it might be a criminal, self defense is part of the 2nd amendment. You can also defend others from possible criminal attacks
Use of deadly force to prevent a "forcible felony," including kidnapping, is legal in all 50 states. If someone in a mask grabs a person you have no reason to assume they are not kidnappers, rapists, or murderers taking advantage of the situation.
My spouse is out of the country right now, visiting her family for the holiday season. This scares me shitless though, because she *can’t* get her citizenship due to losing out on the ability to inherit her parent’s shit if she loses her home country citizenship, and her home country automatically terminates dual citizenship.
She's also from a major world superpower with delusions of colonialism and issues having an elected dictator in power who changed the rules to remove term limits and who oppressed LGBTQ individuals and immigrants.
I don't have any other account. I just normally don't care to comment because most people on this platform are brainwashed or idiots. I was bored waiting for my coworker to finish something today.
There's no evidence of anything as long as you just close your eyes and believe. You know where to find the evidence of what's going on, you've just made a choice not to.
I'm happily looking for it. Nobody will provide any, though. You're either hiding it or there isn't any. I know which one is a safer bet based on the evidence I've actually seen with my own eyes.
They are escalating in Minneapolis because they want another 'violent' response like the George Floyd BLM protests that resulted in a police station 'under siege'. If they can get a media circus showing angry citizens assaulting government property and personnel, they will have fulfilled the mission of creating what they deem is LEGAL grounds for invoking the Insurrection Act that will satisfy SCOTUS.
Shut the fuck up. They're escalating because there has been no consequences to previous escalation. Assholes like you are hurting our country by encouraging docility which IS what they want.
I 100% guarantee that there is no such goal. They are thugs acting like thugs because they can. This admin needs no legal premise to do anything, it does what it wants when it wants. You're operating under the false pretense of PreMAGA America, something that does not exist anymore.
I mean, if you think he actually needs a valid reason, you're on some good shit. Their perception of "legal" grounds will be whatever he gives as his excuse.
Nah, if that were the case then the President would be 100% in his rights to call in the National Guard (like he's been doing anyway) and use them to "protect" ICE agents "Just Doing Their Jobs!"
That’s part of why I’m paranoid about the guy’s name being leaked. I’m half convinced they did it so someone will find him and kill him so they can justify escalating things
The more outlandish and baseless the right's actions, the more support an active opposition will have. Right now, there's still many millions of "moderate" people who might not agree with Trump but also won't act against him. A lot of those people will have to decide enough is enough for any real, lasting change to be made. The more the right pushes into groups that are obviously no threat-the more they target and harass the obviously innocent-the less those actions can be ignored or excused.
Why the fuck is your, very accurate and justifiable, Russian Waldo wearing USSR badging on his ushanka? The CIA couldn't have wet-dreamed themselves anything as devious and FUCKING OBVIOUS from the Soviets that the Oligarchic Capitalist Rissian Federation are doing OPENLY. Either hate the Russian Federation or the defunct USSR, OR both, but do not confuse the issue by idiotically confusing the two.
Russia is Russia, and has been nearly all my life. The USSR never paid more than lip service to communism any longer than one femtosecond after Lenin's death, if that. Ever since Stalin, it's been a nearly unbroken oligarchic kleptocracy, with only a very brief hiccup from 1991 to 1999 (drunk Yeltsin joke intentional). Changing the labeling did not change its nature.
And if Walz brings in the Minnesota National Guard, which he has standing by, then it'll be American military shooting American soldiers, which is basically civil war. Which would probably stop the election as well
Waltz has no intention of letting his National Guard confront ICE directly. Read between the lines when he speaks - if he calls them up, they'll be tasked with running logistics and support for other State agencies.
The election isn't happening either way. If Trump doesn't find a reason to declare it canceled, it will be a farce characterized by ICE agents at every city polling place arresting anyone who tries to vote while brown
I mean, can you blame them? Otherwise the media will keep talking about the trumpstein files, can't have that. Plus, with midterms later this year, polling says what we all knew, they are very unpopular and set to lose their asses, followed by a 3rd impeachment. Martial law fixes all of that. /S
Evidence: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pasSXWerTYg He's talking about their public statements during the BLM protests. The ramifications and the culture surrounding them doing that.
Yes, I know, I remember. Did you see my /s? That was sarcasm. The administration is trying to provoke the public and create pretext for invoking the insurrection act, and I'm saying, of course they are. Unfortunately, this time there is no General Milley and the others to push back.
They are not. Stop spreading this bull shit. They're not trying to provoke anything, they're literally doing whatever they want. Nothing they've done has provoked anyone, they get away with anything and everything so they just do what they feel like now.
Ok my bad. I read it but my brain ignored the /s. Sorry it's just well you know how many "THEY'RE GONNA DO MARTIAL LAW" comments there are. I just constantly interject trying to calm people down that the military is people not mindless storm troopers.
I think it's significant that it was such a wide cross section of the command structure. Suggests to me that it's broader cultural aversion to it. I would assume the current command would choose people like them to succeed them. So I'm optimistic and if not the troops will lose the stomach for it VERY quickly. Moral is in the shitter just over stand around federal property deployments. Being the arm of a dictatorship against the people will make morale collapse.
It's frustrating and scary. I don't know what to do or where to go. Where I live more than half of the people think it's just great what's happening. What do you do when every 3rd neighbor genuinely thinks the world would be better if I were dead
A huge percentage of our population doesn't even know what's going on because wealthy Trump cultists have bought all our media and turned them into propaganda networks.
Funny thing about going downhill... It's all forward momentum, and trying to fight gravity, and the hill is more of a cliff. We've been made emotionally exhausted from constant outrage, and those with all the wealth and power also have a military and courts on their side. Every common person who claimed they needed their guns to fight government tyranny, all sided with the tyranny. It took 70 years, but the Nazis won. We'll all fight back in what ways we can, but we are ill, tired, wage-slaves.
It's terrorism. The point is to keep terrorist acts secret until after they happen. An ICE raid may only take 30 minutes and there's no way other than building a minuteman militia to fight these acts, an armed militia that would get FBI raids before even getting a single thing done.
Because our country is the size of Europe and we can't join to help our fellow Americans without getting in a car and driving 20+ hours. So why don't you and everyone asking why just shut the fuck up, we're trying.
If we were to try to organize anything more than a protest, the feds that spy on all our communications would stop us before we could do anything, and we would ruin not only our own lives but the lives of our friends and family members. This is enough to keep most people from acting.
A terribly high number of Americans support this. Check the comments on videos of the incident at other sites. Most comments say it's the woman's fault she got killed and the ICE agent did nothing wrong.
Comments on a website in no way accurately represent the thoughts of a group of people. You have know way of knowing if those are written by real people, trolls or bots. Which most are the last one.
Don't worry. Our elected representatives, the ones who were supposed to stop these kinds of things, are currently writing another sternly worded letter and having a press conference on the local news telling us that they'll take care of it. All is well. Stay calm and trust the system!
Americans have grown soft and weak because they are full of cheese. They will dress in inflatable frog suits instead of fighting for their country. They have grown timid and are willing to watch a pedophile burn their whole country to the ground instead of getting off the couch to do something about it. MN mayor told ICE to get the fuck out, but won't actually do anything to get rid of them.
Instead of marching around in frog suits, you need to storm Krasnovs throne, drag him outside, rip him limb from limb, wipe off the makeup and poop, then eat him.
Shut the fuck up. Europeans have their own fascist groups rising. We're not here to dance for you. We know better than you what's happening here. You're ignorant of the situation here.
Either be an ally and help or shut the fuck up. Listening to all your constant moralizing and bitching almost makes me wish the orange idiot would act up overseas.
We also have to live with the paranoia that posters like you maybe Russian trolls for hire trying to stir up violence for their own means. Do nothing and play into their hands, do something and play into their hands. These are the choices we have, so yeah, we have some choice paralysis.
These people will kill you and a third of our population will smile as it happens. The nazis took over Germany with a smaller percentage of the population and they didn't have facial recognition software, live GPS tracking via phones, or predator drones. We're way past the point of being able to stop this. The rest of the world needs to get used to the idea that Hitler 2.0 is already here and he has nuclear weapons.
Honestly, what can we even do though? Because I can't think of a damn thing. Half the country handed the reigns back to the children and this time they're determined to break everything they can.
Well I saw a video where people were throwing snowballs at them, next add stones to the snowballs. The protests need to escalate to riots. Surround an ICE car and slash the tyres.
Sounds like a good way to get arrested, lose my job, and therefore my healthcare and home. Or just end up dead because you know they won't think twice about it... That's the crux of the issue tbh, folks have too much to lose to take that slim shot. I just don't believe that any amount of protesting will stop them, the admin just doesn't care.
If they fight back, they will try to declare martial law. They use violence to try to get violence back. All while lying and saying the places they are going into are violent. These ICE individuals are huge POS soulless ghouls that are dear leaders army more than anything else. They want people to fight back.
I agree, it's a no win scenario. I live in Portland and we just had CBP just shoot people here today too. I'm 48 and fat, I'm not really going to be able to fight anyone hand to hand. I can only protest and be there in a crowd.
It would take the white American male to go toe-to-toe with other white males to protect someone they don't know. You notice how most of the victims and those speaking up in the moment are non whites and women? Bro code.
Are you trying to imply all white people are siding with white people over minorities? Because that's absolutely brain-dead. That's not even remotely true.
The people who have the guns like what's happening. The people who wanted to ban guns are the ones being preyed upon. And it's coming for y'all soon, people who scaled back your militaries to let the American taxpayer protect you while you get free healthcare with the savings. Watch how you lose your welfare soon in order to defend against Russia.
Ok. So you're saying to can't just go out and buy a gun to defend yourself? First you have to prove you're pro ICE? The excuse of "only the bad ones have guns!" Fails since you can go get one.
If Russia wants to try and invade Australia they're more than welcome. It'll be fun watching them fail.
Having gun rights and having people be the victim of violence aren't related, our kids are getting killed because we live in a slowly collapsing empire with a deeply dysfunctional society. If there were no guns, people would be hurting people other ways.
You're not that hard to understand. You talk mad shit about your freedoms and ability to fight government tyranny. But when it actually happens you're all scared shitless.
It gets even better Democrats are rushing to ban guns, which is totally what you do when a tyrant is trying to forcefully conquer a country: ensure his side is the only one with any weapons.
You say that, but then the Va DNC is putting forth bills that would ban most types of firearms, and have put forward full bans with no grandfather clause in the past.
America is one single identity the same way Europe is a single identity. Some people are pro ICE and some people are anti ICE, and the people who are pro ICE won the election and hold power for at least 4 years. You really can’t understand that?
the thing is the pro ice people are cheaters and fascists and should be removed from the game, or at least rule-checked. everyone agreeing to let one side govern illegally and change the rules as they go seems like a sure fire way to let them hold power forever.
Sure but in America you can’t just remove voters from the game because you don’t like them. That’s like our whole thing. Many people have tried for centuries to remove black people from the game for example. Fascist or not they are playing by the rules. The laws are defined by the election victors and the courts they choose and the victors are winning legally as they define it right now. It’s a hard truth but one we must swallow if we want to see change.
I’m getting so sick of comments like the one you’re responding to. They see an incident like this and then come here and I guess say I should have gone out and stopped it…? Where do I go? Who do I stop? I’m not seeing this shit happen in person, ever. It adds so much to the frustration and feeling of helplessness
Thank you! I'm so fucking sick of being lectured by self-righteous Europeans on the internet. "There’s 350 million of you! Rise up!" Yeah, let's see you organize 350 million individualists who hate each other in under a year. Half the country doesn't even know what the fuck is going on. "Excuses!" Nah, it's called fucking ~reality~ and bullshit magical thinking ain't gonna fix it.
100% me too. They seem to naively believe we can all just suddenly decide to stand up (as if nobody is/has) and magically stop this. When that doesn’t happen in 24 hours they start advocating for a violent revolution that they both won’t be a part of nor realize that means fighting family and loved ones we hold dear. Like, a civil war pits me against my direct family. But it’s never good enough for them.
If every american killed as many ice as they can before getting shot, in 1 month half a million american would die and the trump administration would be gone but nobody wants to fight for their country anymore.
https://www.startribune.com/day-care-fraud-minnesota-video/601554760 "Five of the 10 child care businesses Shirley featured in his video operated as meal sites for Feeding Our Future, the nonprofit at the center of a fraud scandal that has resulted in more than 50 convictions so far."
I'll happily keep the goal posts right where they are. Asking me to pay for proof is a stupid way to convince anybody. How about you offer me some proof instead of asking me for money? With your quote alone, I see no proof of "already being investigated" or "your" or "craphead" or "trying to gain entry" or "his" or "thugs." Claim still seems wacko. I suggest you provide some evidence for it if you don't want it to seem that way.
We've been building to this for decades and if you're on this website then odds are your country has been too, even if you haven't gotten as far as us yet. And do what exactly? Tyranny is now law, any attempt bigger than a largely toothless peaceful protest is be seen as open rebellion and treated as such. I mean hell, look how largely toothless peaceful protest is treated as it is! Folks are doing what they can and this will escalate, but The American Public can't stop this, not anymore.
Does your political system have recalls for elected officials? Here if your representative doesn't act for the people they represent we can sign a petition and have them removed
Does that include local representatives? Do the Republicans that support him only have to worry at an election? That's more what keeps a lot of our officials in check. But ya I watched that debacle
We were lucky in the 80's and 90's that our governmnent and the people didn't give in to hate and fear(bende van Nijvel, CCC, and the biggest criminals of them all: de rijkswacht) de rijkswacht was some sort of militarized police force, corrupt to the bone(no secret in Belgium) But funny thing..all 3 were connected to/funded by...surprise surprise.. the fucking cia..
Sucks to suck but it kind of is now. Not everything of course. But Trump was elected by the genuine democratic majority of Americans to hold power along with congress and the Supreme Court for at least two years. His absolute power over American government is in fact inevitable for now unless we vote differently in the midterms.
Yes and no. Up until very recently there was the option to avoid this, but our various institutions failed to see what was happening and do what needed doing. From this point on I think there are variations on how this will play out, there are things that can be done at home and abroad to reduce harm, but I do not think there is any way to avoid more of what is currently happening other than to fight through it and hope to live to see the other side.
Oh! Yeah no not inevitable in most other countries. Could be bias based on what media I consume, but I'd say the UK is almost certainly headed this way with Italy not far behind, France could go either way, Canada could go either way, Japan just elected a far right leader who is making loud anti-China moves but I don't have a good read on what to expect from that other than a potential territorial war for patches of ocean.
They still wallow in defeatism. Same old nonsense about how the US is too big to do anything, and how they don't want to lose their job, or potentially getting shot at. Etc etc. /gallery/ZEWtgDU
The main thing is healthcare dude. So many of us are dependent on daily medications. Medicine to survive. That you have to keep your job to be able to afford them. Yeah, we know it's all fucky
A lot of us Europeans already did show you when we disposed our own dictators. Iranians are doing it right now. You have plenty to learn from, but doing it? That's on you people.
The issue is a lot of Americans want to do something- but many of them still don't give a fuck. My coworker today was complaining her Facebook feed was ruined because of posts about ICE. We are within 2 hours of Minneapolis. We're not even far away (by American standards) and she does not care. We have to fight apathy and facism and we're losing both battles. (She would tell you she didn't vote for this, because she didn't even fucking vote)
And how many of those places had a militarized police force with a $17bil yearly budget and the most lethal military on the planet? This administration has already shown us that they will not hesitate to use that force against us, what do you realistically think is going to happen if thousands of people start descending on DC? That the administration rolls over and goes "welp you got us"? It would be a fucking bloodbath, and not for the bad guys.
I understand the frustration but the situation is not the same. We're not just dealing with this administration but the people who voted them in. You can remove the administration but the voters that put them there have been brainwashed to the point where they will absolutely kill us. Look at the social media posts after Kirk was killed, they were foaming at the mouth, literally threatening to put bullets in our heads. And we all know that Trump will pardon them.
So you fought half of your populace that loved the dictators and would die for them and gladly kill you too, while they were armed with guns, and you did it by gathering together after a 3 day drive with no money for gas? See how we're exactly the same?
No we're not, you guys have it SO MUCH harder than the people ending communism, or the folks in Iran right now. You ain't got no money for gas! So theres really nothing you can do if you think about it.
Mussolini yes indeed. Hitler? Congrats, you found someone (we'll ignore all the actual attempts on his life)! Alright, that settles it. Back to bed, nothing can be done.
Yes, we got rid of our kings / greatly reduced their powers. Many, and I mean, MANY people suffered and died for the freedom we enjoy today. The US helped greatly in WW2, but millions of Europeans sacrificed everything to fight against it.
Most of us live thousands of miles away from where we can do anything. We are also mostly living barely in our means and can't risk our lives/livelihoods. It's a shitty excuse but that's reality of the situation.
There's thousands of movements, but some big ones are 50501, you've seen them on here. Or, just go to your capital and protest. I'm not even American and we are out here protesting everything he touches, so just get in the streets. Hell, go to your local city hall and protest. Look at your city and find protests and get in the streets. Put signs up in your windows, or better yet, start organising. Don't do it online, find like minded people and start training. Just get in the streets!
Oh dont worry, if you dont risk your life now, it will be at greater risk later, its like a cancer if you dont take care of it its gone kill you. So far you guus are choosing to not fight the cancer.
I'm Irish. Come from a long line of Irish Republicans who fought for my country's freedom. In their name I go to every protest I can and I'm fucking disabled. America is a fucking joke. Trash fire country of lazy fucking cowards. Us Irish were poor, oppressed and a minority in our own country. We never stopped fighting. The only people I see in America doing anything are Brown, or Drag Queens or both. White Americans, especially "Irish Americans" are fucking cowards. GET OFF YOUR ARSE.
Hundreds of thousands of people are marching and protesting everyday, sorry the news doesn't give it 24hr coverage. The protests keep growing and soon they will be so big it will be inevitable that the powder keg explodes and the troops will be ordered to attack and you will finally get the All American blood bath you want to see so badly. Sorry it isn't happening fast enough.
There's one problem with that. When people get pissed off enough, there's no telling what will happen. This hasn't happened before, so there's no information to go off of. It may work in thw short term, but no idea how the long term will play out. The closest there is is the shtick with Hitler and look how THAT turned out.
It has happened many times before, just not to the same people in the same place. We know what eventually happens, it's just a question of how long it takes.
As the Romans said, bread and circus. For many people, getting just barely enough food and the occasional sport to root for is enough to keep them from rioting in the streets.
That's the reason many previous civilizations failed. If someone is starving and can't afford to live, then what's left to live for? There is nothing more dangerous than someone with nothing left to lose
If you starve the dogs, keep the dogs hungry enough, they will be very obedient or just eat eaxh other eventually. This is EXACTLY what the billionaires have designed with our government's blessing. They even gave their little henchmen a badge and some extra kibble to keep them from biting.
ontarioOT
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YouRadicalizedMe
Alright kiddos you know what needs to be done
seldombeaton
I thought Americans owned guns, lots of guns. I thought Americans had a dislike for overreaching government? I thought Americans loved their freedom..
CrimsonPermanentAssurance
The group of Americans who own the most guns think Tyranny is giving food stamps to single moms.
vagueluciditee
Fcking disgraceful and disgusting
LangleyofMappe
Attacking schools and students ? Who else does that ? Oh yeah, Israel. Perhaps we should discuss whether Israel trains ICE.
Shawnofavitch
thisuserisafk
I'm glad they are calling them chemical weapons and not making light of this.
polepolekaz
Ameri-Nah, you mean. No thank you, this is just plain cruel, dumb Nazism.
Nintendam
FUCK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!
Fuck. Are these people not human? No shred of decency? No. They are not.
n0n53n53
BaconAlmighty
unfortunately this is who America is and always has been.
memedrift2410
What an ignorant sentence. Shut the fuck up or we're going to let that orange fool go pull your pants down and spank you before we get rid of him.
OobieDoobBenubi
A country founded by puritan conservatives who left Europe because European fascist regimes weren't fascist enough. Surprise Pikachu face that it's a conservative hellscape.
G0MeatCube
I wonder how people not in America view imgur... is imgur still world wide?? Cuz, if I didnt live there i wouldn't give one flying fuck about this or why its blown up all over the front page.
reting1111
Don't you have like a second amendment?
MyInboxIsSadAndEmpty
On paper, yes. But in reality, no. We have a right to form civil militias to defend ourselves and that has been interpreted to mean a right to individually own and in many places openly and publicly carry arms. However if people actually did form a militia to openly carry arms and defend citizens from ICE raids they would be shot and/or arrested pretty much immediately meaning that functionally no we do not have that right.
CrimsonPermanentAssurance
Having militias mean individuals bring their privately owned firearms when they muster.
MyInboxIsSadAndEmpty
Yes, and if a militia mustered with the intent of defending citizens from ICE, they would be shot and/or arrested. It doesn't matter that they have the right to be there, to own and bear arms, and to defend their fellow citizens from an overreaching government, bearing arms in opposition to that government makes them criminals in the eyes of the law and the punishment for that is usually death on sight. In contrast, look at Kyle Rittenhouse bearing arms to further the goals of the government.
CrimsonPermanentAssurance
Conservatives consider Tyranny when the government gives food stamps to single moms. Liberals largely hate guns. Leftists are very pro gun (they call it "Under No Pretext") but are dramatically outnumbered by liberals and conservatives.
ProudAussie
Really is a soft civil war going on in the USA with it just being one sided by an ever growing tyrannical government that the forefathers established a 2nd amendment for.
TheRealArclight
OmNachoMama
Is America great again yet?
CodingMoose
If they're not gonna identify themselves, it might be a criminal, self defense is part of the 2nd amendment. You can also defend others from possible criminal attacks
IDontKnowWhatToDoAnymoreAndImTired
Use of deadly force to prevent a "forcible felony," including kidnapping, is legal in all 50 states. If someone in a mask grabs a person you have no reason to assume they are not kidnappers, rapists, or murderers taking advantage of the situation.
BlindGardener
My spouse is out of the country right now, visiting her family for the holiday season. This scares me shitless though, because she *can’t* get her citizenship due to losing out on the ability to inherit her parent’s shit if she loses her home country citizenship, and her home country automatically terminates dual citizenship.
ontarioOT
Can you go join her? I legit think some countries would grant political asylum from the USA at this point.
BlindGardener
She's also from a major world superpower with delusions of colonialism and issues having an elected dictator in power who changed the rules to remove term limits and who oppressed LGBTQ individuals and immigrants.
DarthVaderDidNothingWrong
Had you not written superpower I'd have to reply that this doesn't narrow it down enough
BlindGardener
By my count that's still at minimum 2 depending on how narrowly you define superpower. Boy the world we live in fucking sucks.
DarthVaderDidNothingWrong
I assumed from the context that youre American and therefore she's Chinese. Right?
Swk62
What a shithole country.
memedrift2410
Jesus. Shut up. Your jealousy is so obvious. Yeah, the handsome strong guy tripped. Calling it out doesn't make you more popular or desirable.
TheRealArclight
mrsidog1
A shithole country full of shitty cunts.
Onetonmanwithaspoon
Hard to tell if either you or your chatbot is having a stroke, but you should get both looked into.
Rainbowdaesh
ICE MURDERS AMERICANS
The protest signs write themselves.
461weavile
Luckily we know that not all protest signs contain truthful statements. Haven't seen any evidence supporting that obvious lie yet.
MyProfileIsIrrelevant
Cute. Stupid, but cute.
Onetonmanwithaspoon
Say that on your real account you coward.
461weavile
I don't have any other account. I just normally don't care to comment because most people on this platform are brainwashed or idiots. I was bored waiting for my coworker to finish something today.
Rainbowdaesh
Maybe try pulling your head out of your ass. That might help.
461weavile
No evidence that's where my head is, either. Evidence for any of your claims would be nice.
Vhexation
There's no evidence of anything as long as you just close your eyes and believe. You know where to find the evidence of what's going on, you've just made a choice not to.
461weavile
I'm happily looking for it. Nobody will provide any, though. You're either hiding it or there isn't any. I know which one is a safer bet based on the evidence I've actually seen with my own eyes.
usernametakenisthestoryofmylife
What The Actual Fuck.
Groose
Its the best way to prevent the kids get an education so that they turn republican once older
PubMed12927120suckssobad
What the Actual Fuck?
Madchant
They are escalating in Minneapolis because they want another 'violent' response like the George Floyd BLM protests that resulted in a police station 'under siege'. If they can get a media circus showing angry citizens assaulting government property and personnel, they will have fulfilled the mission of creating what they deem is LEGAL grounds for invoking the Insurrection Act that will satisfy SCOTUS.
CrimsonPermanentAssurance
Shut the fuck up. They're escalating because there has been no consequences to previous escalation. Assholes like you are hurting our country by encouraging docility which IS what they want.
ontarioOT
Madalchemist2018
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rossimus
I 100% guarantee that there is no such goal. They are thugs acting like thugs because they can. This admin needs no legal premise to do anything, it does what it wants when it wants. You're operating under the false pretense of PreMAGA America, something that does not exist anymore.
xj4low
Trump is taking his revenge on Minneapolis trying to escalate tensions so he can justify military action.
SlaaneshiRightsFront
I mean, if you think he actually needs a valid reason, you're on some good shit. Their perception of "legal" grounds will be whatever he gives as his excuse.
TheMightyMollusk
And if there's no response, they'll just keep doing it anyway.
IrrationalNumber
If every ICE operation resulted in 2-3 ICE casualties, they would quickly run out of people.
hfctom
Nah, if that were the case then the President would be 100% in his rights to call in the National Guard (like he's been doing anyway) and use them to "protect" ICE agents "Just Doing Their Jobs!"
lostlittletimeonthis
What about broken legs?
Madalchemist2018
Just loke ICE agents at the bottom of the ocean...a good start.
Ariltongadottir
I thought the correct term was POTUS, President of the United States, not Supreme Cunt Of the United States.
Yours is better though.
WholeWheatBunnyHugger
But SCOU is acceptable as well.
Ariltongadottir
Supreme Cunt Of Unalive-istan…?
Jellyfishsocks
Supreme Court
LuminoZero
"If we resist them killing us, then they will kill us!"
LeopardprintLarry
That’s part of why I’m paranoid about the guy’s name being leaked. I’m half convinced they did it so someone will find him and kill him so they can justify escalating things
hipifreq
It's going to happen one way or the other. THEY will escalate until there is no option but a violent response in literal self defense.
astronomygeek7
They will escalate, which means all the more to not give in. It’s a waiting game at this point and he knows it.
CrimsonPermanentAssurance
Muffyns
well if ice show up and being near them is basically being told you;re being executed, why not fight back and try to not be ?
Fahrenheit536
The more outlandish and baseless the right's actions, the more support an active opposition will have. Right now, there's still many millions of "moderate" people who might not agree with Trump but also won't act against him. A lot of those people will have to decide enough is enough for any real, lasting change to be made. The more the right pushes into groups that are obviously no threat-the more they target and harass the obviously innocent-the less those actions can be ignored or excused.
ThinkThisOut
BLM destroyed the west coast. MSP only have a few innocent deaths and moderate vandalism from the riots… Al- source I cleaned up after them
TheRealArclight
Wapusk
Why the fuck is your, very accurate and justifiable, Russian Waldo wearing USSR badging on his ushanka? The CIA couldn't have wet-dreamed themselves anything as devious and FUCKING OBVIOUS from the Soviets that the Oligarchic Capitalist Rissian Federation are doing OPENLY.
Either hate the Russian Federation or the defunct USSR, OR both, but do not confuse the issue by idiotically confusing the two.
Unless you too are a useful idiot or bad actor?
mithiwithi
Russia is Russia, and has been nearly all my life. The USSR never paid more than lip service to communism any longer than one femtosecond after Lenin's death, if that. Ever since Stalin, it's been a nearly unbroken oligarchic kleptocracy, with only a very brief hiccup from 1991 to 1999 (drunk Yeltsin joke intentional). Changing the labeling did not change its nature.
TheRealArclight
Wapusk
Well, that explains it then.
shinoharaliz
And if Walz brings in the Minnesota National Guard, which he has standing by,
then it'll be American military shooting American soldiers, which is basically civil war. Which would probably stop the election as well
Skawomplious
Waltz has no intention of letting his National Guard confront ICE directly. Read between the lines when he speaks - if he calls them up, they'll be tasked with running logistics and support for other State agencies.
IDontKnowWhatToDoAnymoreAndImTired
The election isn't happening either way. If Trump doesn't find a reason to declare it canceled, it will be a farce characterized by ICE agents at every city polling place arresting anyone who tries to vote while brown
shinoharaliz
Yeah, I don't doubt you're right.
Alurkerforcedtologin
This exactly. Trump needs to cancel the upcoming election if he doesn't want to be impeached (again). Fuck trump. I hope he rots in prison.
theraininspainfallsmainlyontheplain
He wants to enact martial law (is that the one?), finally unlimited power.
StarscreamAndHutch
Impeachment means nothing
CrimsonPermanentAssurance
Dracology
We held elections during the Civil War. One city could not possibly satisfy the grounds needed to cancel elections.
carmexcoveredlips
Yes-we have, but this isn't our America if you have not noticed
StarscreamAndHutch
Dont hold your breath. He just kidnapped the leader of another country last week. Anything is possible like this.
ThisIsAllYouCouldComeUpWith
If only the flimsiest of pretense is needed by all three branches of government, then one city will do
CrimsonPermanentAssurance
They don't really need pretense anymore.
Alurkerforcedtologin
Remember that, and repeat it often when the magats try to gaslight you.
prolorus
Civil war voting was DONE BY MAIL
FaeVikingPrincess
He doesn't have to cancel the elections, he just has to deploy military to polling places.
JakeWren
It would if all the people involved in the decision are looking for a reason to do so.
Lovingimpaler
I mean, can you blame them? Otherwise the media will keep talking about the trumpstein files, can't have that. Plus, with midterms later this year, polling says what we all knew, they are very unpopular and set to lose their asses, followed by a 3rd impeachment. Martial law fixes all of that. /S
ChiefRunningFridge
During the BLM protests basically the entire military command structure loudly and publicly sided with the protestors.
ChiefRunningFridge
Evidence: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pasSXWerTYg
He's talking about their public statements during the BLM protests. The ramifications and the culture surrounding them doing that.
Lovingimpaler
Yes, I know, I remember. Did you see my /s? That was sarcasm. The administration is trying to provoke the public and create pretext for invoking the insurrection act, and I'm saying, of course they are. Unfortunately, this time there is no General Milley and the others to push back.
CrimsonPermanentAssurance
They are not. Stop spreading this bull shit. They're not trying to provoke anything, they're literally doing whatever they want. Nothing they've done has provoked anyone, they get away with anything and everything so they just do what they feel like now.
Lovingimpaler
You don't know that, you think that. Don't tell me what to say or not say, you're not my boss.
ChiefRunningFridge
Ok my bad. I read it but my brain ignored the /s. Sorry it's just well you know how many "THEY'RE GONNA DO MARTIAL LAW" comments there are. I just constantly interject trying to calm people down that the military is people not mindless storm troopers.
CrimsonPermanentAssurance
I think you're high opinion of the military is a little naive
ChiefRunningFridge
I think it's significant that it was such a wide cross section of the command structure. Suggests to me that it's broader cultural aversion to it. I would assume the current command would choose people like them to succeed them. So I'm optimistic and if not the troops will lose the stomach for it VERY quickly. Moral is in the shitter just over stand around federal property deployments. Being the arm of a dictatorship against the people will make morale collapse.
IrrationalNumber
What the absolute fuck is wrong with you America? Why are you letting this continue?!
AwkwardBiblophile
We are a nation that has obsessed about the individual above all and now we have a problem that must be addressed by mass cooperation. Do the math
PieWrecker3000
It's frustrating and scary. I don't know what to do or where to go. Where I live more than half of the people think it's just great what's happening. What do you do when every 3rd neighbor genuinely thinks the world would be better if I were dead
duffman3335
Because the only organized insurrectionists are all MAGATS.
BluePaladin42
It was demonstrated fully in the wake of 9/11. We're scared little spoiled shitweasels, culturally. And we've only gotten worse since 2001.
GreatOdinsTaint
A huge percentage of our population doesn't even know what's going on because wealthy Trump cultists have bought all our media and turned them into propaganda networks.
jammer909
Funny thing about going downhill... It's all forward momentum, and trying to fight gravity, and the hill is more of a cliff. We've been made emotionally exhausted from constant outrage, and those with all the wealth and power also have a military and courts on their side. Every common person who claimed they needed their guns to fight government tyranny, all sided with the tyranny. It took 70 years, but the Nazis won. We'll all fight back in what ways we can, but we are ill, tired, wage-slaves.
3dartwork
What do? What authority do we get? The military? Police? What?
HouseOfEvil
https://media3.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPWE1NzM3M2U1ZzV2d2pxYmd3Y2oxZ2kzZ2djNzR2bGRoM3JzbzlrNGMzdm5kenYxaCZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/xUOwGbmdXwm4dnd8mA/200w.webp
OnlyWantToSayOneThing
It's terrorism. The point is to keep terrorist acts secret until after they happen. An ICE raid may only take 30 minutes and there's no way other than building a minuteman militia to fight these acts, an armed militia that would get FBI raids before even getting a single thing done.
awkungen42
Because our country is the size of Europe and we can't join to help our fellow Americans without getting in a car and driving 20+ hours. So why don't you and everyone asking why just shut the fuck up, we're trying.
SlaaneshiRightsFront
Turns out all the freedom talk was just talk 🤷♂️
PikpikCeleriac
If we were to try to organize anything more than a protest, the feds that spy on all our communications would stop us before we could do anything, and we would ruin not only our own lives but the lives of our friends and family members. This is enough to keep most people from acting.
Imapancakenom
A terribly high number of Americans support this. Check the comments on videos of the incident at other sites. Most comments say it's the woman's fault she got killed and the ICE agent did nothing wrong.
nalmeth
Comments on a website in no way accurately represent the thoughts of a group of people. You have know way of knowing if those are written by real people, trolls or bots. Which most are the last one.
ThrowAwayAcct0000
Do you understand how far away from there most people live?
hfctom
Don't worry. Our elected representatives, the ones who were supposed to stop these kinds of things, are currently writing another sternly worded letter and having a press conference on the local news telling us that they'll take care of it. All is well. Stay calm and trust the system!
Jarjarthejedi
Oh yeah, blame the people who you made powerless by voting for the dictator for not stopping the dictator, that's rational and sane. /s
Sixwings
Have you seen our military?
Bundalicious
Americans have grown soft and weak because they are full of cheese. They will dress in inflatable frog suits instead of fighting for their country. They have grown timid and are willing to watch a pedophile burn their whole country to the ground instead of getting off the couch to do something about it. MN mayor told ICE to get the fuck out, but won't actually do anything to get rid of them.
Hercules99
Well then, tell us what we should do.
Bundalicious
Instead of marching around in frog suits, you need to storm Krasnovs throne, drag him outside, rip him limb from limb, wipe off the makeup and poop, then eat him.
memedrift2410
Shut the fuck up. Europeans have their own fascist groups rising. We're not here to dance for you. We know better than you what's happening here. You're ignorant of the situation here.
Either be an ally and help or shut the fuck up. Listening to all your constant moralizing and bitching almost makes me wish the orange idiot would act up overseas.
memedrift2410
We live in a country that's more than 20 miles wide. Zip it.
OutspokenHBW
We also have to live with the paranoia that posters like you maybe Russian trolls for hire trying to stir up violence for their own means. Do nothing and play into their hands, do something and play into their hands. These are the choices we have, so yeah, we have some choice paralysis.
xj4low
Trump wants this to escalate so he can justify armed response. He doesn't like this town because this was where the world wide BLM movement started.
CrimsonPermanentAssurance
No Trump doesn't. He's doing anything he wants already because he knows you're too docile and submissive to escalate.
ExaDeuce
These people will kill you and a third of our population will smile as it happens. The nazis took over Germany with a smaller percentage of the population and they didn't have facial recognition software, live GPS tracking via phones, or predator drones. We're way past the point of being able to stop this. The rest of the world needs to get used to the idea that Hitler 2.0 is already here and he has nuclear weapons.
Fuckimgurcunts
"We got bills to pay"
MantisTobagganMD
Conservatives and complacency.
Irbricksceo
Honestly, what can we even do though? Because I can't think of a damn thing. Half the country handed the reigns back to the children and this time they're determined to break everything they can.
Zobbie
Well I saw a video where people were throwing snowballs at them, next add stones to the snowballs. The protests need to escalate to riots. Surround an ICE car and slash the tyres.
Irbricksceo
Sounds like a good way to get arrested, lose my job, and therefore my healthcare and home. Or just end up dead because you know they won't think twice about it... That's the crux of the issue tbh, folks have too much to lose to take that slim shot. I just don't believe that any amount of protesting will stop them, the admin just doesn't care.
djangojazz
If they fight back, they will try to declare martial law. They use violence to try to get violence back. All while lying and saying the places they are going into are violent. These ICE individuals are huge POS soulless ghouls that are dear leaders army more than anything else. They want people to fight back.
CrimsonPermanentAssurance
idontlikepickingusername
If you wait too long, you won't have a chance to fight back at all.
djangojazz
I agree, it's a no win scenario. I live in Portland and we just had CBP just shoot people here today too. I'm 48 and fat, I'm not really going to be able to fight anyone hand to hand. I can only protest and be there in a crowd.
Cbouch4rd
It would take the white American male to go toe-to-toe with other white males to protect someone they don't know. You notice how most of the victims and those speaking up in the moment are non whites and women? Bro code.
nalmeth
Are you trying to imply all white people are siding with white people over minorities? Because that's absolutely brain-dead. That's not even remotely true.
itwasababyox
We've got a pretty good mix in Mpls actually. I've been really impressed.
Sixwings
Mpls is kind of a special place..
itwasababyox
Folsee
Americans spent decades defending their right to guns, even as their friends and children were being gunned down daily.
Now that the guns can actually serve their purpose according to the Second Amendment, they're all to scared to use them.
Fucking Americans man.
Zobbie
Yes, and it is proper shit too, like .50 caliber. I reckon if you can plan a fucking school shooting you can sure as he'll plan an ICE shooting.
shitheadtookmyname
The people who have the guns like what's happening. The people who wanted to ban guns are the ones being preyed upon. And it's coming for y'all soon, people who scaled back your militaries to let the American taxpayer protect you while you get free healthcare with the savings. Watch how you lose your welfare soon in order to defend against Russia.
Folsee
Ok. So you're saying to can't just go out and buy a gun to defend yourself? First you have to prove you're pro ICE? The excuse of "only the bad ones have guns!" Fails since you can go get one.
If Russia wants to try and invade Australia they're more than welcome. It'll be fun watching them fail.
CrimsonPermanentAssurance
Having gun rights and having people be the victim of violence aren't related, our kids are getting killed because we live in a slowly collapsing empire with a deeply dysfunctional society. If there were no guns, people would be hurting people other ways.
Folsee
Sure. But maybe don't give people ready access to the best hand held murder tools.
A person could cutdown a rainforest with a bread knife, but they're a lot better at it if you give them access to chainsaws.
nalmeth
Fails to understand Americans and America.
Folsee
You're not that hard to understand. You talk mad shit about your freedoms and ability to fight government tyranny. But when it actually happens you're all scared shitless.
You're a bunch of small yappy dogs.
nalmeth
Sorry, but you don't know us at all. Especially since you think that one profile fits all of us. Lol.
Blze001
It gets even better Democrats are rushing to ban guns, which is totally what you do when a tyrant is trying to forcefully conquer a country: ensure his side is the only one with any weapons.
smitmp02
Oh are we? Please tell me the bill where we're trying to do this.
hitdog42
Okay, go stand up to tyranny right fucking now. This is what you fucks have been waiting for, yet you're doing nothing.
MarsIsAfire
JFC NO ONE IS TRYING STEAL YOUR GUNS. whew. needed all caps for that.
Blze001
You say that, but then the Va DNC is putting forth bills that would ban most types of firearms, and have put forward full bans with no grandfather clause in the past.
Onetonmanwithaspoon
Y'all have been saying that exact line since the 90's.
Blze001
I vote Democrat every election, but I guess just respecting the 2nd Amendment makes me MAGA now?
TheRealArclight
Blze001
This is insane. If I'm not 100% in line behind one party in everything they do, I get called a Soros Plant or a Russian Bot.
boognish115
America is one single identity the same way Europe is a single identity. Some people are pro ICE and some people are anti ICE, and the people who are pro ICE won the election and hold power for at least 4 years. You really can’t understand that?
captainalphabet
the thing is the pro ice people are cheaters and fascists and should be removed from the game, or at least rule-checked. everyone agreeing to let one side govern illegally and change the rules as they go seems like a sure fire way to let them hold power forever.
boognish115
Sure but in America you can’t just remove voters from the game because you don’t like them. That’s like our whole thing. Many people have tried for centuries to remove black people from the game for example. Fascist or not they are playing by the rules. The laws are defined by the election victors and the courts they choose and the victors are winning legally as they define it right now. It’s a hard truth but one we must swallow if we want to see change.
uncleslam7
I’m getting so sick of comments like the one you’re responding to. They see an incident like this and then come here and I guess say I should have gone out and stopped it…? Where do I go? Who do I stop? I’m not seeing this shit happen in person, ever. It adds so much to the frustration and feeling of helplessness
TsubakiTragic
make ANTIFA exist
kittyfajitas
Thank you! I'm so fucking sick of being lectured by self-righteous Europeans on the internet. "There’s 350 million of you! Rise up!" Yeah, let's see you organize 350 million individualists who hate each other in under a year. Half the country doesn't even know what the fuck is going on. "Excuses!" Nah, it's called fucking ~reality~ and bullshit magical thinking ain't gonna fix it.
boognish115
100% me too. They seem to naively believe we can all just suddenly decide to stand up (as if nobody is/has) and magically stop this. When that doesn’t happen in 24 hours they start advocating for a violent revolution that they both won’t be a part of nor realize that means fighting family and loved ones we hold dear. Like, a civil war pits me against my direct family. But it’s never good enough for them.
livingonagiantfireball
If every american killed as many ice as they can before getting shot, in 1 month half a million american would die and the trump administration would be gone but nobody wants to fight for their country anymore.
boognish115
Damn millennials. They ruined fighting for their country. I blame the avocado toast.
461weavile
America is trying to stop the bleeding. Minnesota is fighting to keep the fraud and rioting going.
Tharasyn
Minnesota is more American than you
Niagaran
☝🏻 10yo account, no posts, no faves, 3 comments in the last 10 mins.
Another fucking trollbot.
TheLastBootyBender
The fraud was already being investigated, your shithead tiktoker did nothing but show up and try to gain entry with his thugs
461weavile
I'll wait for proof of your wacko claims.
TheLastBootyBender
https://www.startribune.com/day-care-fraud-minnesota-video/601554760 "Five of the 10 child care businesses Shirley featured in his video operated as meal sites for Feeding Our Future, the nonprofit at the center of a fraud scandal that has resulted in more than 50 convictions so far."
Now where are you going to move the goal posts?
461weavile
I'll happily keep the goal posts right where they are. Asking me to pay for proof is a stupid way to convince anybody. How about you offer me some proof instead of asking me for money? With your quote alone, I see no proof of "already being investigated" or "your" or "craphead" or "trying to gain entry" or "his" or "thugs." Claim still seems wacko. I suggest you provide some evidence for it if you don't want it to seem that way.
polepolekaz
Go to a trump rally.
461weavile
why? it's dangerous there. people with guns keep showing up trying to kill the president and his companions.
Froggie243
Fuck off Russian shill
461weavile
I'm a shill? What part of my comment is shilling? No clue how you think I'm Russian, either. Strange comment.
SuperKamiGuru11
Dont worry abput dipshit there, look at the comment history. Little bitch troll waiting to lick the boot
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MyInboxIsSadAndEmpty
We've been building to this for decades and if you're on this website then odds are your country has been too, even if you haven't gotten as far as us yet. And do what exactly? Tyranny is now law, any attempt bigger than a largely toothless peaceful protest is be seen as open rebellion and treated as such. I mean hell, look how largely toothless peaceful protest is treated as it is! Folks are doing what they can and this will escalate, but The American Public can't stop this, not anymore.
ProbablyCrazier
Naw, you said the right words before "The American Public can't stop this," The public has recourse, you stated as much.
xj4low
To the rest of the world, you know how much our government spends on military equipment? We don't have universal health care because of it.
leviaton
Does your political system have recalls for elected officials? Here if your representative doesn't act for the people they represent we can sign a petition and have them removed
boognish115
It’s called impeachment here. We’ve impeached trump twice. He was never convicted in the senate.
leviaton
Does that include local representatives? Do the Republicans that support him only have to worry at an election? That's more what keeps a lot of our officials in check. But ya I watched that debacle
Neanderthalersutopiaphilandrousanteatersotherbrother
We were lucky in the 80's and 90's that our governmnent and the people didn't give in to hate and fear(bende van Nijvel, CCC, and the biggest criminals of them all: de rijkswacht) de rijkswacht was some sort of militarized police force, corrupt to the bone(no secret in Belgium)
But funny thing..all 3 were connected to/funded by...surprise surprise.. the fucking cia..
IrrationalNumber
I don't follow? It sounds as if you think this situation is somehow an inevitability. It's not.
boognish115
Sucks to suck but it kind of is now. Not everything of course. But Trump was elected by the genuine democratic majority of Americans to hold power along with congress and the Supreme Court for at least two years. His absolute power over American government is in fact inevitable for now unless we vote differently in the midterms.
IrrationalNumber
I was talking about in other countries.
LabsAreGoobers
Go out there then, dude
MyInboxIsSadAndEmpty
Yes and no. Up until very recently there was the option to avoid this, but our various institutions failed to see what was happening and do what needed doing. From this point on I think there are variations on how this will play out, there are things that can be done at home and abroad to reduce harm, but I do not think there is any way to avoid more of what is currently happening other than to fight through it and hope to live to see the other side.
IrrationalNumber
I was talking about in other countries. The US is properly fucked.
MyInboxIsSadAndEmpty
Oh! Yeah no not inevitable in most other countries. Could be bias based on what media I consume, but I'd say the UK is almost certainly headed this way with Italy not far behind, France could go either way, Canada could go either way, Japan just elected a far right leader who is making loud anti-China moves but I don't have a good read on what to expect from that other than a potential territorial war for patches of ocean.
ProfessorVanDiggenSagg
They still wallow in defeatism. Same old nonsense about how the US is too big to do anything, and how they don't want to lose their job, or potentially getting shot at. Etc etc. /gallery/ZEWtgDU
boognish115
I mean, would you? Life is a precious thing. Sorry it bums you out.
LazerSpacePirate
The main thing is healthcare dude. So many of us are dependent on daily medications. Medicine to survive. That you have to keep your job to be able to afford them. Yeah, we know it's all fucky
johnxbear
Feel free to pop over and get shot and show us how it's done
DarthVaderDidNothingWrong
A lot of us Europeans already did show you when we disposed our own dictators. Iranians are doing it right now. You have plenty to learn from, but doing it? That's on you people.
TheRealArclight
i have a family and a job asshole...if i was single sure.
Zobbie
That should be more motivation to build something better for your kids.
koalamonster
The issue is a lot of Americans want to do something- but many of them still don't give a fuck. My coworker today was complaining her Facebook feed was ruined because of posts about ICE. We are within 2 hours of Minneapolis. We're not even far away (by American standards) and she does not care. We have to fight apathy and facism and we're losing both battles. (She would tell you she didn't vote for this, because she didn't even fucking vote)
muliphen
And how many of those places had a militarized police force with a $17bil yearly budget and the most lethal military on the planet? This administration has already shown us that they will not hesitate to use that force against us, what do you realistically think is going to happen if thousands of people start descending on DC? That the administration rolls over and goes "welp you got us"? It would be a fucking bloodbath, and not for the bad guys.
DarthVaderDidNothingWrong
Yeah no youre right. What was the KGB anyway eh? Stasi? More like lame-i! Securitate? Boring!
No dude, absolutely. Nobody ever had to face anything like you have. No chance, you might as well just roll with it. Back to the couch!
prolorus
I’m 80 and have been struggling all my life against war in Korea, Vietnam, Laos, Mexico. No relaxed life for me
MipMop
I understand the frustration but the situation is not the same. We're not just dealing with this administration but the people who voted them in. You can remove the administration but the voters that put them there have been brainwashed to the point where they will absolutely kill us. Look at the social media posts after Kirk was killed, they were foaming at the mouth, literally threatening to put bullets in our heads. And we all know that Trump will pardon them.
4etherling
So you fought half of your populace that loved the dictators and would die for them and gladly kill you too, while they were armed with guns, and you did it by gathering together after a 3 day drive with no money for gas? See how we're exactly the same?
DarthVaderDidNothingWrong
No we're not, you guys have it SO MUCH harder than the people ending communism, or the folks in Iran right now. You ain't got no money for gas! So theres really nothing you can do if you think about it.
Syxcfaq
Europeans got rid of Hitler on their own? And Mussolini? Interesting, I didn't realize that.
DarthVaderDidNothingWrong
Mussolini yes indeed. Hitler? Congrats, you found someone (we'll ignore all the actual attempts on his life)! Alright, that settles it. Back to bed, nothing can be done.
boognish115
If Nazi Germany had nukes I wonder if America would have even intervened.
SirButcher
Yes, we got rid of our kings / greatly reduced their powers. Many, and I mean, MANY people suffered and died for the freedom we enjoy today. The US helped greatly in WW2, but millions of Europeans sacrificed everything to fight against it.
OriginalAndWitty
Most of us live thousands of miles away from where we can do anything. We are also mostly living barely in our means and can't risk our lives/livelihoods. It's a shitty excuse but that's reality of the situation.
CrimsonPermanentAssurance
You're submissive and docile to authority. Don't bullshit us.
Strategicgnomer
As you said, shit excuse. Doesn't stop the other side, you're just fuckin lazy and don't give a shit until it's you getting shot.
shitheadtookmyname
I could say the same about you.
morganfreemanslarynx
Any ideas to sign up. I'm a veteran. I hate this.
Strategicgnomer
There's thousands of movements, but some big ones are 50501, you've seen them on here. Or, just go to your capital and protest. I'm not even American and we are out here protesting everything he touches, so just get in the streets. Hell, go to your local city hall and protest. Look at your city and find protests and get in the streets. Put signs up in your windows, or better yet, start organising. Don't do it online, find like minded people and start training. Just get in the streets!
L4dead2
Same here!
livingonagiantfireball
Oh dont worry, if you dont risk your life now, it will be at greater risk later, its like a cancer if you dont take care of it its gone kill you. So far you guus are choosing to not fight the cancer.
LeonBrooks
They would rather cry on the internet and downvote those that put a mirror in their face. Pathetic
lowkeybrotherofthor
Easy for you to say Mr. Keyboard warrior.
Sticklebrickk
I woke up to $1.71 in my account this morning.
Hangonthere
You're right. That's because you're downvoted. As a german I know that feeling.
Yogsothott
I'm Irish. Come from a long line of Irish Republicans who fought for my country's freedom. In their name I go to every protest I can and I'm fucking disabled. America is a fucking joke. Trash fire country of lazy fucking cowards. Us Irish were poor, oppressed and a minority in our own country. We never stopped fighting. The only people I see in America doing anything are Brown, or Drag Queens or both. White Americans, especially "Irish Americans" are fucking cowards. GET OFF YOUR ARSE.
katolu
The IRA blowing up kids. Real brave.
MadamPuddifoot
I live thousands of miles from Minneapolis, what exactly is me standing on a street corner with a sign going to do? Please, enlighten me.
OutspokenHBW
Hundreds of thousands of people are marching and protesting everyday, sorry the news doesn't give it 24hr coverage. The protests keep growing and soon they will be so big it will be inevitable that the powder keg explodes and the troops will be ordered to attack and you will finally get the All American blood bath you want to see so badly. Sorry it isn't happening fast enough.
armonis
It is the situation that has been surgically engineered to prevent people from fighting back.
Sticklebrickk
Only give you enough money to survive, don't help you when you're sick, and you owe them money at the end of the year? That sounds like abuse.
interestingmonster
Damn. That just gave me chills.
PrincessBatCat
There's one problem with that. When people get pissed off enough, there's no telling what will happen. This hasn't happened before, so there's no information to go off of. It may work in thw short term, but no idea how the long term will play out. The closest there is is the shtick with Hitler and look how THAT turned out.
Fentex
It has happened many times before, just not to the same people in the same place. We know what eventually happens, it's just a question of how long it takes.
EveryGOPAccusationIsActuallyAnAdmission
As the Romans said, bread and circus. For many people, getting just barely enough food and the occasional sport to root for is enough to keep them from rioting in the streets.
PrincessBatCat
Under normal circumstances, sure, but the Roman's didn't murder their own innocents in the streets for no reason whatsoever.
deadman320
That's the reason many previous civilizations failed. If someone is starving and can't afford to live, then what's left to live for? There is nothing more dangerous than someone with nothing left to lose
PrincessBatCat
Exactly. And they're playing right into that.
weirdscienceyall
If you starve the dogs, keep the dogs hungry enough, they will be very obedient or just eat eaxh other eventually. This is EXACTLY what the billionaires have designed with our government's blessing. They even gave their little henchmen a badge and some extra kibble to keep them from biting.