Dec 21, 2022 1:25 AM
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Kinetic342
Can we please stop bitching and just have a god damned civil war?
Zahnradfee
I don't see a problem here. It's not as if there was a tide of infections affecting children right now. /s
Twrecks123
With no pediatricians, those pesky women won’t get their kids diagnosed early and won’t use state funding for SLP services etc=profit ?
MattyMakes
Oh No a red state is suffering consequences of it's actions. Maybe in another two generations the people will be so fed up they'll vote blue
Jbelkin
Who has a degree and stays in ‘bama (too complicated to spell out all the letters)
thehappyrunner
As someone in Alabama, this is a little bit misleading, because the other thing those areas lack is people. I've driven through some of 1/*
2/* those underserved parts of the state and gone for 30+ miles without seeing a gas station. You don't need much more than family doctors
when there are more cows than people.
DaNylz
People can't afford treatment anyway so what's the point.
beaubrent
A bunch of litigious, angry anti vax people find all the doctors are leaving? Shocking.
cbale2000
I mean as someone who works in a hospital system, many Internal Medicine DRs without a pediatrics specialty will also see pediatric patients
Many rural areas lack specialists and are often served by Internal Medicine or General Practitioners, if you have a condition that requires
a specialist on the rare occasion, you either travel, or, these days, you can also get help via Telemedicine.
Misteavalon
Yes. Also family medicine can properly care for little ones.
PointlessNips
This would be a lot more useful if it was pediatricians per Capita.
1eudaemonia
until the big city doctor wrecks his car traveling the country side and accidentally becomes the townsdoctorhilarityensues
Filanwizard
And then he wears flannel and meets a country gal and it’s a hallmark movie.
mikeatike
Normally I would respond with r/peopleliveincities, but whole counties? Wtf?
peterbozeman
What a shithole.
securitypug
do you have any idea how hard it is to attract doctors to work in those areas?
twoamartist
Now show the skin color demographic.
I get where you're going, but it's actually the reverse of the point I think you're trying to make. Jefferson county(the one in the middle)
is mostly black, where the population gets increasinly whiter as you head to the edges of the state.
Population density would be a more useful metric in this case.
mygodhasabiggerdick
Fuck Alabama.
makeamericasmartagain9000
And they are wondering why they lose elections? This is absolutely horrible.
jsdigman6
Ahh yes health care for profit brought to you by the ultimate redneck party.....the republican party of Alabama
MikeyOhno
Alabama is a shithole incest state that thinks football solves all of its problems.
TroyKapalczynski
https://i.imgur.com/vR9YJhH
streetcatz
You dont need a pediatrician when your child is also your uncle
GoldFrieza
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DidYouTryTurningItOffAndOnAgain
robustdumbass3000
I wonder if there is a side by side with other states. I do love these types of graphs.
eadanke
https://www.abp.org/content/estimated-driving-distance-visit-pediatric-subspecialist
This is amazing thanks!!!
downrightmike
Alabama has the highest death rate from covid out of all states. So you can rest assured, they are the worst red welfare plague state.
FrozenCoast
Roll tide lol.
vodkaho
Now, overlay that with income levels and race demographics, there will be no surprises...
I think you'd be surprised by the race demographics, but you're probably right about the income levels.
I'm recalling a map I saw of ancient sedimentary beds, to rich crop areas, to slave ownership. This seems uncomfortably close to that.
This is anecdotal, but it tends to get more "all white" the further out in the sticks you go here. Higher density areas like Birmingham and
Montgomery tend to be more diverse.
Cats2cats
So, I’m going to ask. How many counties have a listing for family practice physicians?
Yes. Pediatricians are not the only speciality that can properly care for babies. That being said, the AL anti-choice laws make me sad :-(
Me too. We are associated with a Catholic based group through my church. They support mom & baby from pregnancy thru majority. Mom gets/3
life skills class, parenting class & housing. It is a 2 yr program where they get GED-AAS or some kind of diploma. When they leave housing/2
is set & they have a savings account. I would have voted no to support but they don’t ignore. It was mom’s choice to have the baby./1
newsguycraigevans
Decades of Republican rule. It's what you get.
poochyena
I live in Alabama. This is basically just a population density map.
Same. There are plenty of things you could say about the state, but this map is just misleading.
Anthraxwastaken
Yeah Imm sorry but this is literally true of any rural area, blue or red, turns out counties with 30 people in them don’t have /1
specialized doctors, shocking, kids still have access to family practitioners, broadly speaking, this isn’t a red/blue thing, it’s /2
just bipartisan capitalism not operating where it isn’t profitable, you want to fix this, get socialized healthcare, and not the watered /3
socialism doesn't change the fact that its impractical to have a specialized doctor in a town of 10 people.
It actually kinda does change the fact thag it’s only impractical because or profits lol, you don’t meed one in every town, just a /1
down shit liberal politicians support /4
10Bunkies
This is my time to remind people that family doctors also see kids, are more likely to go into primary care than pediatricains, and
more likely to live in rural areas.
LifeIsADanceOfMinds
This should come as absolutely no surprise. It should come with a great deal of sadness, and for those in Alabama, anger.
oddfinrir
You're within an hour or 2 of world class medical hubs in AL and they still have GPs, which are fine. This graph is misleading.
gypsyspot
does Alabama have world class medical hubs though. can you name these world class hospitals? I'm expecting world class, now. go ahead
DVSBSTrD
Why? They want it this way.
tlisx
No the hell we don't. There's a lot of us here that want change...
huffnpuff72
Isn’t their anger directed at socialists who want to improve things like this?
almostalone
This isn't a flaw.
notyoubizness
It is a flaw. It isn't by accident.
wagnus
Not a bug, it's a feature
AlwaysInTheshadows
It's by design.
It's more of a consequence of low population density. I've lived in these areas and most are small towns with family doctors.
Cilvaa
The cruelty is the point.
alaest0r
Profit is the point. Cruelty is a fun bonus.
IcouldntfindmymedsthismorningsoItookyours
It’s 100% intentional.
Not offering comprehensive healthcare is a way to keep those in poverty, in poverty.
sambaah05
To what end?
Marsupialmessiah
Keeping them voting against their own interests through lack of education and blaming the other guy for not having MDs.
Uhh, I'm pretty sure they don't have doctors because it's not profitable and the doctors don't want to live some of those places. The places
Without doctors, are the places without lots of people. That happens in blue states too. For the exact same reasons I mentioned.
Medicine everywhere else is not meant to be profitable, its meant to maintain human continuity and improve life, not profit from it.
Kinetic342
Can we please stop bitching and just have a god damned civil war?
Zahnradfee
I don't see a problem here. It's not as if there was a tide of infections affecting children right now. /s
Twrecks123
With no pediatricians, those pesky women won’t get their kids diagnosed early and won’t use state funding for SLP services etc=profit ?
MattyMakes
Oh No a red state is suffering consequences of it's actions. Maybe in another two generations the people will be so fed up they'll vote blue
Jbelkin
Who has a degree and stays in ‘bama (too complicated to spell out all the letters)
thehappyrunner
As someone in Alabama, this is a little bit misleading, because the other thing those areas lack is people. I've driven through some of 1/*
thehappyrunner
2/* those underserved parts of the state and gone for 30+ miles without seeing a gas station. You don't need much more than family doctors
thehappyrunner
when there are more cows than people.
DaNylz
People can't afford treatment anyway so what's the point.
beaubrent
A bunch of litigious, angry anti vax people find all the doctors are leaving? Shocking.
cbale2000
I mean as someone who works in a hospital system, many Internal Medicine DRs without a pediatrics specialty will also see pediatric patients
cbale2000
Many rural areas lack specialists and are often served by Internal Medicine or General Practitioners, if you have a condition that requires
cbale2000
a specialist on the rare occasion, you either travel, or, these days, you can also get help via Telemedicine.
Misteavalon
Yes. Also family medicine can properly care for little ones.
PointlessNips
This would be a lot more useful if it was pediatricians per Capita.
1eudaemonia
until the big city doctor wrecks his car traveling the country side and accidentally becomes the townsdoctorhilarityensues
Filanwizard
And then he wears flannel and meets a country gal and it’s a hallmark movie.
mikeatike
Normally I would respond with r/peopleliveincities, but whole counties? Wtf?
peterbozeman
What a shithole.
securitypug
do you have any idea how hard it is to attract doctors to work in those areas?
twoamartist
Now show the skin color demographic.
thehappyrunner
I get where you're going, but it's actually the reverse of the point I think you're trying to make. Jefferson county(the one in the middle)
thehappyrunner
is mostly black, where the population gets increasinly whiter as you head to the edges of the state.
cbale2000
Population density would be a more useful metric in this case.
mygodhasabiggerdick
Fuck Alabama.
makeamericasmartagain9000
And they are wondering why they lose elections? This is absolutely horrible.
jsdigman6
Ahh yes health care for profit brought to you by the ultimate redneck party.....the republican party of Alabama
MikeyOhno
Alabama is a shithole incest state that thinks football solves all of its problems.
TroyKapalczynski
https://i.imgur.com/vR9YJhH
streetcatz
You dont need a pediatrician when your child is also your uncle
GoldFrieza
DidYouTryTurningItOffAndOnAgain
robustdumbass3000
I wonder if there is a side by side with other states. I do love these types of graphs.
eadanke
https://www.abp.org/content/estimated-driving-distance-visit-pediatric-subspecialist
robustdumbass3000
This is amazing thanks!!!
downrightmike
Alabama has the highest death rate from covid out of all states. So you can rest assured, they are the worst red welfare plague state.
FrozenCoast
Roll tide lol.
vodkaho
Now, overlay that with income levels and race demographics, there will be no surprises...
thehappyrunner
I think you'd be surprised by the race demographics, but you're probably right about the income levels.
vodkaho
I'm recalling a map I saw of ancient sedimentary beds, to rich crop areas, to slave ownership. This seems uncomfortably close to that.
thehappyrunner
This is anecdotal, but it tends to get more "all white" the further out in the sticks you go here. Higher density areas like Birmingham and
thehappyrunner
Montgomery tend to be more diverse.
Cats2cats
So, I’m going to ask. How many counties have a listing for family practice physicians?
Misteavalon
Yes. Pediatricians are not the only speciality that can properly care for babies. That being said, the AL anti-choice laws make me sad :-(
Cats2cats
Me too. We are associated with a Catholic based group through my church. They support mom & baby from pregnancy thru majority. Mom gets/3
Cats2cats
life skills class, parenting class & housing. It is a 2 yr program where they get GED-AAS or some kind of diploma. When they leave housing/2
Cats2cats
is set & they have a savings account. I would have voted no to support but they don’t ignore. It was mom’s choice to have the baby./1
newsguycraigevans
Decades of Republican rule. It's what you get.
poochyena
I live in Alabama. This is basically just a population density map.
thehappyrunner
Same. There are plenty of things you could say about the state, but this map is just misleading.
Anthraxwastaken
Yeah Imm sorry but this is literally true of any rural area, blue or red, turns out counties with 30 people in them don’t have /1
Anthraxwastaken
specialized doctors, shocking, kids still have access to family practitioners, broadly speaking, this isn’t a red/blue thing, it’s /2
Anthraxwastaken
just bipartisan capitalism not operating where it isn’t profitable, you want to fix this, get socialized healthcare, and not the watered /3
poochyena
socialism doesn't change the fact that its impractical to have a specialized doctor in a town of 10 people.
Anthraxwastaken
It actually kinda does change the fact thag it’s only impractical because or profits lol, you don’t meed one in every town, just a /1
Anthraxwastaken
down shit liberal politicians support /4
10Bunkies
This is my time to remind people that family doctors also see kids, are more likely to go into primary care than pediatricains, and
10Bunkies
more likely to live in rural areas.
LifeIsADanceOfMinds
This should come as absolutely no surprise. It should come with a great deal of sadness, and for those in Alabama, anger.
oddfinrir
You're within an hour or 2 of world class medical hubs in AL and they still have GPs, which are fine. This graph is misleading.
gypsyspot
does Alabama have world class medical hubs though. can you name these world class hospitals? I'm expecting world class, now. go ahead
DVSBSTrD
Why? They want it this way.
tlisx
No the hell we don't. There's a lot of us here that want change...
huffnpuff72
Isn’t their anger directed at socialists who want to improve things like this?
almostalone
This isn't a flaw.
notyoubizness
It is a flaw. It isn't by accident.
wagnus
Not a bug, it's a feature
AlwaysInTheshadows
It's by design.
thehappyrunner
It's more of a consequence of low population density. I've lived in these areas and most are small towns with family doctors.
Cilvaa
The cruelty is the point.
alaest0r
Profit is the point. Cruelty is a fun bonus.
IcouldntfindmymedsthismorningsoItookyours
It’s 100% intentional.
IcouldntfindmymedsthismorningsoItookyours
Not offering comprehensive healthcare is a way to keep those in poverty, in poverty.
sambaah05
To what end?
Marsupialmessiah
Keeping them voting against their own interests through lack of education and blaming the other guy for not having MDs.
sambaah05
Uhh, I'm pretty sure they don't have doctors because it's not profitable and the doctors don't want to live some of those places. The places
sambaah05
Without doctors, are the places without lots of people. That happens in blue states too. For the exact same reasons I mentioned.
Marsupialmessiah
Medicine everywhere else is not meant to be profitable, its meant to maintain human continuity and improve life, not profit from it.