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This happened right outside Portland, OR, one of the most liberal cities in the US. The media is calling it a "BIAS CRIME". I have no idea what that is, but I can identify a HATE crime when I see it.
Source: http://www.pamplinmedia.com/go/42-news/352250-231966-update-bias-crime-targets-troutdale-homeowner "In a week or two, once he finishes cleaning up, Afshar says he will sell his home and leave the United States. He has friends in Australia and Canada who he says never experience discrimination like this.
"'I'm not going to be a hero and stay here and fight about it.' Afshar says. 'I'm not going to sit here and wait for someone to shoot me.'"
This saddens me. I wish this man could find a place with good neighbors and feel safe....here in America. I don't really blame him for wanting to leave, as the political climate has really changed a lot in the last few months. I do hope that if/when he settles down in either Canada or Australia, he finds that the grass really is greener.
FP Edit: It seems the link above is not working at this moment. Here is another news story on what happened. http://katu.com/news/local/mans-home-spray-painted-with-death-threats-and-anti-muslim-graffiti
I see a lot of folks are pointing out that he could have done this himself, or that it was faked some other way. I’d like to give the victim the benefit of the doubt. If for some reason it was faked, it will be discovered and I’ll try to keep y’all updated. In the meantime, be good to your neighbors and be a healthy influence to the children in your life. This kind of hate/terrorism is learned.
1incitatus
Looks like a hoax
personalspaceinvaderspiff
"HATE MUSLIM" "HATE" -seems fake.
AlexInge
It's seems most the time it is.
BrawndoTheThirstMutilatorIsWhatPlantsCrave
Who the hell writes "hate" when vandalizing? Something feels fishy
palja
Next on today's episode of "Things that never happened".
DisfiguredGonad
Because of the way this was done and the words used in the graffiti, I would vigorously investigate the "false flag" angles in this case.
TheValleyofGwangi1
Nope, not buying it. I'm guessing this is one "crime" that stays unsolved. Either trying to get out of paying rent or fleeing a crazy gf.
bpa77
Ok I know imgur is gonna hate this, but it all looks so stereotypical, that this seems hella staged...
Hypercube9
I knew a white male who bought houses in Detroit, insured them, then vandalized them with "Cracker get out" etc. & collected the insurance.
Hypercube9
I'm not saying this guy did that, but he now has plenty of money to pay for his move. And there have been plenty of fake hate crimes lately.
Th1sNam3IsOr1g1nal
Downvoting because if you're trying to scare someone away you don't write "hate". And you would be more vulgar than "hate Muslim". shady.
uvwaex
If you wanted to stage someone hating you, wouldn't you also want to make it more vulgar?
Th1sNam3IsOr1g1nal
Not if your message is "hate". As in the idea that hate is what's driving this attitude towards muslims. It's your signature word then.
TrollHunterMacBabyFarts
Looks staged. I call bullshit
volts33000
Smells like bullshit to me. Who writes "hate"?
jcwilk
Whenever I vandalize a home I just write in spray paint and leave everything intact otherwise.
plap11
Maybe it's just me, but this seems like one of those cases where the victim is actually who did this shit and just wants the attention.
oskar12
HATE!
Koknokker
Sorry brother... but this looks staged. No one sprays 'HATE' on a table top when committing a 'hate' crime. No real rage in this act.
leodavinci1
Unles it was a real "hate" crime staged to look fake. But... people who commit hate crimes can't be that smart. Can they? Yes.
Koknokker
Hardly... haters gonna hate on any date.
rossalupus
Its a shame that after all the faked ones im too cynical to believe this
MexicanConcentrationCamp
As long as it's not like that one guy who had words spray painting on his garage, only to find out he did it to himself.
Shrais
Which one, so many stupid twats faking hate like the cop's wife that spray painted "Die Pigs" on their home.
BlahBlahDinks
Let's wait to see who the culprit is before we blame, could be race war baiting, wouldn't be the first time
SplendidoSplendente
Several suspects are being interrogated by the police.
trixylizrd
Ehh heh. Fany, so fany!
TheMysteriousBanana
I was laughing before I realized this wasnt the cast of always sunny in Philadelphia
hempfandango
I'm still not convinced that bird-faced woman in pink isn't Dee
IDCFFSGTFO
I'm going to hell. I will go directly to hell. I will not pass Go. I will not collect $200.
PoweredbyOSengine
This deserves more points.
DefinitelyHungry
Somebody with better skills than me should photo shop it to say "extremist makeover"
Johnbarelykorn
Always upvote busty blondes with tool belts.
tomyironmane
Damn, you got my hopes up with your shitty joke.
DontAskAboutMyDay
PowerofthePness
Savage
HumanBeingOfEarth
That's 8...
camdenro
For the first time it actually was extreme
Johnbarelykorn
Always upvote busty blondes with tool belts.
Flowmeyo
It's rare that I laugh out loud on Imgur, but that one got me
MostUninterestingManInTheWorld
Can the guy on the right flash a whiter smile?
ilikecheeseburgers
Good morning Juarez Family! http://i32.tinypic.com/293w19v.gif
OfficialJoeBiden
Is that Eric Andre or the "young guy" from SNL?
Insideanus
Glenn howerton who plays Dennis on It's always sunny
AbsolutelyNotADragon
Taco bed ftw
PanicAtTheEverywhere
5Towns
Somos Extremos!
psionoblast
Just put it all on the extreme home makeover account
Hungrypiemonger
http://imgur.com/T5r4Ds7
Manateechica
This is my ALL TIME fav Sunny episode :)
raunchyrach
I knew what it was before I clicked it and I still busted out laughing
HolyUnholyCannoli
Dammit ty
GreyImg
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amishcannoli
When you're told the indica is really strong but you double up on hits anyways.
brettiferrr
Damn this is literally me right now
amishcannoli
That was me last night. Green Love Potion: tasty and potent.
brettiferrr
I'm what that is but I feel like my bed is swallowing my very existence
paganscum16
I've seen too many of these faked... sad if it's real though
RockTheCatBox
It's all over local news here. It would be pretty fucked up if the guy did it to his own home, but it seems unlikely to my BS detector.
cleverbeans
He was out of the country when it happened so unless his passport is faked too he didn't do it to himself.
fakepointgenerator
Or he did it before he left?
slurmlover
Except it seems he already had plans to leave the state.
TheodoreKMullins
Wouldn't you want to leave if you didn't feel safe and suddenly your fears are confirmed? It's too easy to say it's fake
Chanr
It seems like this was a one man job since all the words and letter shown have the same penmenship
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comcastintern
Got a link? Legit curious.
foggell
I think the word you're looking for is spraymanship
mvp84
And TBH rather neat handwriting for graffiti
AuntSharron
Using a can of spray paint isn't hard. Especially if he was killing time waiting for the dude to come home so he could hurt him.
comfortableshoes
Yeah and the spelling and writing is way above average for this kind of crime.
MrSteveBuscemi
It's a slippery slope, to jump to conclusions before all the facts have presented themselves...
PoweredbyOSengine
Would take a long time to do. and who spray paints the word HATE?
CorporaCavernosa
The article says he was gone on vacation and came home to this. So I would assume it was someone who knew he'd be gone a few days
SamSquanch148
An idiot
digitalist1
This seems like something a 6 year old would do to frame his brother...
AfroSamuraiRM
dumbcuntWight
Anyone else think he might have done this himself?
TheBeardedDragon
Even if he wanted to make a statement about discrimination, I doubt anyone would do such a thing to themselves and then leave the country
dumbcuntWight
How about if he does this to himself knowing that with the current gofundme culture+renters insurance he's gonna be set.
bimmergeek
It was my first thought after three pictures.
Coflapjacks
Possibly. I wouldn't rule it out
Space2place
That and OP's words are what stood out at me, suggesting there is NO safe place for him in the US. That is nonsense.
AheagoAmigo
So many of these "hate crimes" have been turning up to be done by the person who reported them just to push an agenda or get their 15min.
PersonalityFire
*Some* yes, but a drop in the bucket compared to the spike in actual hate crimes within the last year.
AheagoAmigo
Even a drop in my opinion is enough to question.
NewYearsResolution
My thoughts too when I saw "Hate" spray painted
captainbuckkets
Huge number of some of these are
Lyse89
Yeah, going to keep my eye on this.
Tikityler
It also looks fake, like really that HATE one. I mean don't get me wrong if it's real we need to shut that down but my alarms are going off.
dumbcuntWight
Yeah I agree, kinda seems like he did it himself?
Tikityler
That is my thought. Just seems off.
Astaroth95
And the worst part about these hoaxes is that people become numb to it, when it really happens (like possibly now) people won't care anymore
GiantCentipede
Never cared to start with, I'm ahead of the game.
CrankyMankey
Not to mention the only real damage is to the couches which can just be sewn up. Wouldn't shit be smashed if you actually HATE'ed some guy?
aaandtheregoesmysparetime07
Agreed, seems strange that there's only one slice per cushion
WeFoundSomethingBeneathTheIce
Only excuse I can think of is noise. If they make lots of noise smashing shit then neighbours notice and file complaint, they get (1/2)
WeFoundSomethingBeneathTheIce
caught in the act. They spray paint, slice some couches, then walk out like they own the place, they get away with it. (2/2)
ImaginaryMamboNumber5
And why would you take three cans of different spray paint in there? In case the house *happened* to be decorated in red white and black?
governmentgavemeagun
If you're an idiot who has three half-full cans of paint laying around from old home repairs, perhaps?
Chanr
How many people just have red spray lying around black spray paint seems more common. It's like someone watched a film for inspiration
governmentgavemeagun
I do. What's your point?
mrread55
I feel like this is turning less into a discussion about the crime and more like a CNN analysis breakdown.
QuotablePoots
Have y'all ever graffiti'd before? Always take extra cans, always vary color, and everyone's spray lines look like shit.
AlwaysTakeABananaToAParty
it's not uncommon for people to make or repair their belongings, and keep a decent amount of spray paints for that purpose.
Disenfranchised
I've got a can for every major colour. Maybe I'm just weird tho
alexanderthegreater
So many of these have been proven to be hoaxes that i just cannot bring myself to believe this happened
Mudguard
Do you believe anything the POTUS and his people say then? So much of what he says has been proven to be lies.
blackguard89
http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/562/544/0b4.jpg
armrha
Innocent until proven guilty, right? Don't assume the guy is a fraud until there's reason to.
gibsonguy77
It's like the Boy Who Cried Wolf.
whyteraven74
Only a tiny fraction have been shown to be hoaxes
Rololo
It's very much real of you check the actual reports
Hypercube9
So they only sprayed the cabinets, but were really careful not to spray anything on the spice rack or anything on the counter?!? Riiiight.
lizthestarfish
The counter very clearly has spray paint on it. So does the toilet. And pretty much everything in the house.
Hypercube9
Not the one in pic#2 with the spice rack & bananas. Judging by the box on the fridge, this is a new purchase that the guy wanted to protect!
BrayerIncognito
Could be a pre-furnished rental. Everything that's the landlords gets fucked and what is his is left clean.
EndgameArchitecture
My bullshit detector is going off
captainalphabet
Change the battery.
wrestlewolf
I agree, this is fishy.
peeeest
Just so he can clean for hours and move to a new country??
BHPaperstacks
I think it's weird for them just to spry HATE. In their mind they'd have better reason then just "hate"
EndgameArchitecture
That's a big indicator for me too. Unless there were words before or after "hate", it just seems way too obvious and meant for social media.
vituiksman
Same here...
WaneTendo
this looks soooooo staged
EndgameArchitecture
My inbox is overflowing with people telling me I'm apparently a racist for saying that lol
mechanicalchaos
The strangest thing to me was all the accurate spelling. lol Like when is the last time you saw a hate spewing fucktard spell correctly.
EndgameArchitecture
Ha! So true
badleagaladvice
I agree, seems most people just want to believe because someone told them.
ObiWanShalomi
You could shoot a badass metalcore music video in that house xD
Rockageddon
Same, this looks so staged.Not that this didn't happen to this dude. But that this wassn't unorganized hate mongers. I've seen angry kids1/2
Rockageddon
With spray cans. None of which have ever made such an illegal effort, whilst using so few obscenities.
Rockageddon
#4 Looks like some alternative art bullshit that could be sold at a modern exhibit for a couple mil. The background story would add value...
woozle
this is 100% real and TOTALLY happened.
Rockageddon
I think my main man here is joking people...
dumbcuntWight
Obviously it happened, the fake part is the perpetrator(s).
supersomatic
why would someone write "hate" in this situation? It makes no sense...
CoolGuyCoolDude
I think the picture didn't show the full sentence with the word "hate" in it
cleverbeans
I think it's fair to say breaking into someone's home to spraypaint shit makes no sense in the first place. It didn't seem out of place.
supersomatic
It makes perfect sense within that person's state of mind. Writing hate does not. What possible meaning could the word "hate" have here?
six187
Express his hate towards muslims? "hate muslims" was written on the cupboard
Tikityler
no... that clearly says Hat eMuslin
Irishda
"This isn't how I would commit a hate crime, so it must not be true" Thanks for your insight Mr Poe
bbecks
There's a vast difference between claiming something happened with no proof and all the pictures. Who would do that to themselves? lol 1/2
bbecks
Claiming verbal harassment is not the same things as destruction of/damage to property
Superking420
maybe it wasn't him?
VoltageXL1
Since trump got elected there were many hoaxes such as this that were proven fake. Like that gay guy that got assaulted. It was just makeup
TheAngryBear
Yeah, and who makes perfectly symmetrical cuts on all the sofas?
FidelAstro
I do. And?
Spkch
They are leather... Have you tried cutting leather in different directions? This is obviously the easiest to do, no surprise there.
leroy666
So Sherlock, are you trying to use this to say it doesn't exist, or are you just being Amateur dick?
TheAngryBear
Lol it just looked odd to me. No need to be calling people dicks now.
leroy666
Sorry! Short for Detective
Spkch
They are leather... Have you tried cutting leather in different directions? This is obviously the easiest to do, no surprise there.
Josiahisntmyrealname
Fuck this: I live in Portland ; this is fucking crazy...that sucks so much
NeuroscienceNerd
Same. It sickens me that something like this could happen so close to where I live...or anywhere, for that matter
hip2bsquare
To be fair - most of Portland IS crazy. Either too far left or too far right. There isn't much political "middle ground" to found in PDX.
TeamDoberman
What the fuck man, I live in P-town to. This is bullshit
HornoTostador
Troutdale. What a shit hole.
Yupurineutah
Boy howdy.
FartBoner69
Well good thing it was staged.
theappsucks
Born and raised in oregon... it's not nearly as liberal as you all think. Except pdx, it's a fully red state. Add transplant scum.. this.
Vaanhalen
He's not "transplant scum" he's an immigrant. Geez u portlanders... /s
theappsucks
I meant new yorkers, californians, and those dumbfucks from arizona, not the brown guy. Poor phrasing on my part.
Vaanhalen
I knew, I'm just playing with you for fun
midnightbiscuit
Born in raised in pdx... this shatters me to pieces
midnightbiscuit
Born and *
PlantainSuperNova
Portland is literally the whitest city in the states and the sheer number of white supremacist groups in the area im not surprised
zbaerenlovesme
I'm not surprised, I live about 45 minutes north and my whole town is full of people who would do this.
Mtru2disu
Your Whole Town is Full of people that would do this? Don't be dramatic
zbaerenlovesme
There are many people throughout my town who display behavior such as this.
Mtru2disu
Damn that sucks where do you live?
Boopadasnoot
Im not surprised, after coming home from my service, with California plates, I've been subject to a plethora of hate
Boopadasnoot
, have another one!
fuzzywinklestein
Me too. Really disheartening
IdleReprieve
looks like it could be fake or staged. Waiting for more info before drawing any conclusions.
ferdturguson
I was thinking that. People don't usually paint the word "HATE" at their hate crimes. Also, it happened in a very liberal area.
Mtru2disu
Yeah kind of like the Nazis that put the swastika backwards
CocaineAndSelfPleasure
Do you know that Oregon has some of the most militias in the US?
ferdturguson
I believe it. Venice, Ca has a huge white supremacy representation also.
luxiem
Troutdale is outside of PDX and NOT liberal. It's a conservative town.
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CookingBaconDrunkAndNaked
Its probably teenagers and not some wild conservatives. Looks like teenagers to me.
ferdturguson
I'm not saying that. It just seems like it's staged. Also, this wouldn't be the first time someone has faked this type of thing.
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stillchucktesta
This is sooo fake...
zeitelement
any sources?
ProfessorDumbass
Possibly an insurance scam...but...people are hateful things
ihatesociology
For all interested: http://northwestfront.org
cocoacreamcheese
Oh my God D: I live in Eugene and literally never meet people like this, that's so disgusting. But also how would you know unless you ask
ihatesociology
I know. I study the far-right so I come across these things all the time; my internet history is absolutely fucked...
ihatesociology
Not to bring light to something like this, but I think it's good if people know that these ideologies exist within their own communities.
mysecretshameishookersworthonequarterportion
If it's within your means to do so, help this bloke out. Even if it's just offering him a sandwich or something.
cocoacreamcheese
Upvote for the username haha
ProfessorDumbass
He now tells "helpful people" to stop trying to give him BLT's
RockTheCatBox
Me, too. Such a fucking shame.
AwesomenessMyAss
Anyone from Beaverton?
siilverbolt3
Not anyone willing to admit that
TheJolliestBunchOfAssholesThisSideOfTheNuthouse
Hate
Josiahisntmyrealname
Kind of terrifying this is in Our neck of the woods
RockTheCatBox
This kind of shit seems to be happening in EVERYONE'S neck of the woods these days.
thebrucecat
You might have the best username
badleagaladvice
It really seems fake dude ... "HATE" what ...
TimothyTebow
seriously. Not the pdx i've lived in for 20+ years... There are some gangs on the east side, but none of them white.
TheJolliestBunchOfAssholesThisSideOfTheNuthouse
Hate
Josiahisntmyrealname
Fair enough...
Vaanhalen
I lived in portland for years. Salem is conservative but Portland proper is ~150% ultra-liberal. Seems hoaxy. Who writes the word "hate"?
labrasseurae
I live in Salem. We aren't as conservative as we used to be. Now that the younger generations are taking over.
Winndypops
That is one of the main things that puts me off, my guess right now is it was a Liberal stirring up fear or he himself was in on it.
lemonlime
Only spray paint & slashed couch. Notice the neat countertops. No foods & dishes thrown on the floor. Those are some courteous vandals.
labrasseurae
Also, I grew up in a rinky-dink backwoods community 30 miles of SE of Salem, I have never seen so many liberal hippies in my life.
luxiem
Then you should know Troutdale is not PDX and is also not liberal
slowlyredeemed
Yeah Troutdale has had some weird shit go down in the past.
VigorousButtstuff
Troutdale might as well be PDX, you can get there on a bus line and a short walk.
luxiem
"Short walk?" Google maps puts it at 4 hours for walking distance.
VigorousButtstuff
From the nearest bus? No.
slowlyredeemed
Anyone remember back in the 90s when people were cutting cats in half in the Troutdale Fairview area?
dumbcuntWight
from the rest of Oregon who's tired of Kate&Portland screwing us, anything north of Salem on the I-5 corridor is Portland and very liberal.
luxiem
You don't drive north very much, do you?
dumbcuntWight
Not if I can help it.
BlackwitchWizard
im a liberal from eastern oregon, and even I know the difference between Portland and Troutdale.... your ignorance gives us a bad name dude
dumbcuntWight
You living in bend or Redmond doesn't make you a liberal from eastern Oregon.
kolfacekilla
washington and oregon have a good amount of white supremacy groups. when i lived on the east coast people kept asking me about them.
YouKnowThatRandomGuyWhoLikesVikingsNamedBerzerkerlord
Portland, Maine seems pretty chill.
fezzesRcool
I read somewhere that the Pacific Northwest has a higher concentration of right wing nut jobs than the south.
bamcockseverywhere
Well, we did name the fourth most populous county in Oregon after the pro-slavery Vice Pres candidate that ran against Lincoln's ticket.
Threadnomancer
My town has a klan chapter just out of town
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Threadnomancer
A buddy of mine tagged their trucks with rainbows back in high school. They were pissed lol
holymother
I never noticed them when I lived in Washington or Oregon. But I can't say the day about Idaho...
LeftCollectionBlueBird
I'm on the East Coast and the KKK literally bribe children with goody bags here. It weirds me out to hear it's asked about when we're 1/
LeftCollectionBlueBird
pretty much taught to be cautious locally. 2/2
TeamDoberman
Dont know why you got downvoted because yes absolutely we do.
SparelyFunctional
Portland was historically founded as a "white sanctuary", so yeah, we have some white supremacist history, and that really hasn't changed.
MrOriginal
Live in Washington, I hear about this stuff all the time but where I live it's so mixed in, and I honestly love it.
TheTower52
I see a bunch of those fucks down in molalla.
TeamDoberman
I used to stay out there. More shady place then people realize.
TheTower52
It's a shit home filled with meth. Had 2 drunk drivers run down our fence \ stolen car dumped in our yard. Random hill folk puking in
TheTower52
Drive way. Shit like that
kolfacekilla
i'm across the river in washington, about 30 min from pdx.
zbaerenlovesme
Same! Fullllllll of horrible people who would do this sort of thing. It's heartbreaking.
jackillac3
Hey me too!
websurfintime
Why would u get down voted for saying me too. Puyallup here to lend you a hand and put you back in the +
EndgameArchitecture
Camas?
Worpend
I live in southern Oregon, and holy fuck the amount of racism, bigotry, homophobia, and patriotic Republic Trump cult members are HIGH!
watthefrak
That last statement was also a good play on words.
DefinetlyNotObsessed
Lived in the Deep South and Oregon and ironically I met more racists in Oregon.
yinxuu
http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/lookout/images/9/94/Too-damn-high.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20131112164356
Threadnomancer
Have you seen that fuckhead with the swastikas on his truck?
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bamcockseverywhere
Yeah, he's a local celebrity. https://twitter.com/genocidejimmy
TheQuietHunter
None of the tags use common slurs. I think this is fake due to lack of slurs.
fuckiloveboobsthough
oh, I'm sorry, should they have used slurs like 'you dickbunched riphole"?
TheQuietHunter
Like I said, censorship prevents honest conversation.
conspiramid
Yeah writing "hate" seems pretty obvious
harbors
In the second picture there's also a plastic bag that looks like it was spray painted under and then put back, who the hell would do that
Dontrespectmahauthoritah
Aside from graffiti and mildly slashed sofa it's clean. Where's sand-n word, raghead, child fucker slurs? Those are pretty standard ones.
TheQuietHunter
There must be 20 or 30 they would use.
frostyw
I found a few articles about this from Portland local TV stations. Yes to the graffiti, nothing about leaving the country.
cbuckthree
I heard about this on the radio driving into Portland this morning. They didn't say anything about him leaving the country. Just moving out.
MyLifeisaComplicatedDrinkingGame
Yeah. Maybe it's because I'd rather believe this dude is an attention whore rather than there's that much hate still in the world.
Carnwennan
It's a like when a game depicts racial prejudice but is iffy about actually being that offensive.
TheQuietHunter
Pretty much.
WoopDeFrickenDoo
Look at the spray on the couch. It looks like someone slashed it first, then thought about it and added a slap-dash of white spray paint.
BrayerIncognito
Yeah something just doesn't feel "right" about this, like spraying "hate" on a table. Either a fake or someone trying to be very "on point"
WeFoundSomethingBeneathTheIce
I'm 50/50. The "HATE" makes me think it's fake, but running out of space for "GET OUT OF AMER-" makes me think it's real.
Rololo
Other images would say otherwise. People always want things like this to be fake... Don't understand why we can't accept this happens.
TheQuietHunter
I know things do happen. I just do not think THIS was a real thing. We know that Jews, and Sikh, Muslims, and others suffer.
W92Baj
Yes, someone faking it would be physically unable to use a slur /s
BillaBong031
So I guess that automatically means it's fake? The man says he's leaving the country.
Groggster2000
Only time will tell. Let's see if the police catch anyone. Otherwise, maybe we should give people the benefit of the doubt.
Forge4life
Nice one Sherlock. Guys house was vandalized but thank hod your on the case
ascoolasyou67
Exactly what I was thinking
stillchucktesta
I agree. I just don't see this being real
dallasdb
Where is the raghead, camel jockey, sheep fucker graffiti?
BlackScienceMane
Reminds me of the Schenectady NY story right now
Pekku
I'm down with fake as well. Almost everything else is untouched save for the sprays and couch.
kmikl
Police seem to have a better handle on it, they're saying it's consistent with hate-crime.
slitlily
Lot of damage not visible here is visible in articles, just FYI.
TwistMyNipples
I noticed on one of the walls in the video it said "Gut out of america", the guy's english isn't great so I wouldn't be surprised if he
TwistMyNipples
accidentally spelled a word wrong. Also it seems too neat to be an actual act of vandalism, if I was doing it I would smash the table.
DoctorBaboon42
Didn't even break the toilet or empty cabinets on the floor. Fucking amateurs.
CookingBaconDrunkAndNaked
I think it is more likely a bunch of high school kids being asshats.
TheQuietHunter
It just lacks the testosterone. I don't see it.
Belckan
ITT: Rednecks and retards who think the entirety of his property is shown in family friendly photographs used for the news.
TheQuietHunter
None of the glass is broken. None of the drywall. These are not hard things to damage.
Septagrim
So much fake shit lately. All those bomb threats at synagogue turned out to be from that one Jewish dude.
Tanishh
How does that make it fake? Fake would be the centers threatening themselves. Who says the caller was trying to incite people against
Tanishh
muslims or the far right? I haven't seen a motive yet.
TheQuietHunter
They sprayed the word HATE on a bench. That is not Aryan or KKK type lingo. This feels very wrong.
Septagrim
That was the giveaway for me.
RockTheCatBox
Actually..the bike is still there. This is Portland. Bike stealing Mecca. You've got me thinking now. That would be fucked up if faked.
Septagrim
It sure would.
inboxmefoxes
That uh... doesn't make those fake. He was arrested, yo.
aphallatosis
Lol
TheQuietHunter
Also, this is Oregon. Things like this do not happen in Oregon.
Septagrim
Not on the west side anyway.
LeastInterestingManInTheWorld
Reminder: Oregon's initial state constitution had a "blacks get out or be taxed or beaten" section.
rshini
HAHAHAHA... no. Not all of Oregon and Washington are Seattle-Portland, there's places that wouldn't be out of place in Alabama or Arkansas
DrewBerg
That one "Jewish dude" was only responsible for SOME of the threats and he did it because his ex was Jewish. Don't be an asshole >
TheQuietHunter
You cannot change your ethnicity. He may have stopped the religion, but he is as much a Jew as I am Scotch-Irish.
DrewBerg
And use that as an excuse to dismiss ALL acts of hate and terrorism. This shit happens. No matter how much you WANT it to be false. It's not
Septagrim
I'm not the asshole. The people pushing a fake racist narrative are the assholes because that distracts from actual racism.
DrewBerg
Only as I've said it wasn't ALL of the threats like you just said. You ARE being a gigantic asshole by instantly dismissing these as "fake"
Septagrim
Okay, what was the breakdown of fake to legitimate bomb threats? Also, enough with the caps lock you drama queen.
claytron8000
Canada has it's own issues, but as someone who has lived in the Canada and the US, Canada is more diverse and integrated.
orbitn
Antarctica is more diverse and integrated than some parts of the states.
kmikl
True, but the population size skews the results. :D
awkwardmoment
Toronto and Vancouver or Canada?
madman604
Our biggest problem is nazi types that can't spray paint a swastika properly.
kmikl
Yeah, too dumb to walk and chew gum, but they can vote and own guns.
gibsonguy77
Unless you've lived all over, then your evidence is anecdotal and not representative of a whole country. 1/2
gibsonguy77
Life in Colorado will be much different than life in Mississippi. 2/2
thebigwoodsman
diverse? You are aware Canada is one of the whitest countries in the world right? I always think that's funny that all the whites up /1
kmikl
I've linked statistical data: Canada and the US are not that far apart in minority/caucasian percentages and group numbers.
TrapperGinHawkeye
We are a multicultural society. US is a melting pot. Education and attitudes are noticeably different. Even the racism feels different.
letstalknews
Canadians do feel they need to be a supreme race...for some reason whites here do. Which is odd considering they say they hate Hitler.
easybrz
Canadians are the supreme race, regardless of our colour or genetics, the cold makes us strong and the maple syrup gives us limitless energy
yinxuu
Canadian here. Can confirm maple syrup makes us invincible
claytron8000
There are still racist people, but they tend to keep quiet (in cities) because of the backlash they'd receive.
thedarkcanuck
Ever been to rural Alberta?
kmikl
Yep. I've worked with Farmers. AB isn't NEARLY as bad as MB.
sexymeetzey
You mean exactly like in the US, right? We shame our racists just like every other nation, nearly to a fault in some cases.
kmikl
Good.
claytron8000
This sparked a good discussion. I want to be clear, this was not meant to make Canada look utopic because it's not
claytron8000
But having lived in rural AB, Edmonton, Calgary, and now Denver, we do notice a difference. Canada does have a laundry list of issues.
claytron8000
Just sharing my perspective
thebigwoodsman
North accuse southerners of racism but there's more minorities in the south. Weird that all those minorities would choose to live there /2
kmikl
Depends on what they wanted, really. Canada offers most of the same thing that the US does, with the notable exception of healthcare, /1
kmikl
/2 better access to education and similar business laws as the US at the expense of higher taxes and mostly cold weather for 5 months.
thebigwoodsman
Better access to education? I dunno about that. And our biz laws are better. More biz HQ in US than Canada.
kmikl
Larger populations... the laws on corporate personhood and responsibility are better here for citizens. That's more what I was driving at.
kmikl
Better access to education in that college/university courses aren't priced into $40/$50K for a 4 year program. It's about $18K total.
thebigwoodsman
Yeah our health care is the best in the world in the US. But I was referring to people from new england vs southerners. But canada works
kmikl
Best in the world, if you can afford it. :) Don't forget that caveat. I follow what you're saying though: the moral high ground is /1
kmikl
/2 separated only be degrees here. Canadians aren't really throwing the doors open for immigrants, but they do come and if everything is in
thebigwoodsman
Yeah and depends on where you sit. ACA made it more affordable for low income, mo $ for sole props and wealthier. My deductible went up.
ImNotAnOrange
might want to fact check that, canada has a much lower % of minorities that the US, and I know Quebec has an independence movement
socrateeze
Quebecs "independent" movement hasn't had steam since the 60s. Canada is 1000x times more civil than America at the moment
kmikl
You mean the 90's, the last referendum (the closest) was in 1995.
socrateeze
I stand corrected. A referendum was ran in 95 and 98.
kmikl
There was no referendum in 98. There was a SCC ruling that concerned the Referendum question clarity and Quebec general election. /1
JerreyRough
The independence movement is a dying thing. And Canada night have a lower % but it's more spread out generally. Not always, but generally.
InspectorSpacetlme
Not exactly, it's a urban/rural divide Toronto has been called the most diverse city in the world in terms of number of different 1/2.
InspectorSpacetlme
Ethnicity present, approaching no visible majority. Meanwhile just north of Toronto you hit the land where most minorities are students. 2/2
kmikl
I'll say this: we have a lower population overall (38M vs 308ishM), but the split of minorities is actually pretty close. US is about /1
kmikl
/2 72% Caucasian, Canada is about 81% Caucasian. I'll link you the breakdowns shortly. Also, the Quebec sovereigntists have been very
kmikl
/3 quiet since 1995's very close but visible referendum defeat, and the fact that the separation clarity issue has been settled on.
kmikl
/4.2 US 2010 census info https://factfinder.census.gov/faces/tableservices/jsf/pages/productview.xhtml?src=bkmk
gibsonguy77
Yeah but you also have to factor in the population as well. You'll find much more diversity within a group of 300 mil than just 30 mil.
kmikl
No question. The links I put up really put the focus on that, but both are overwhelmingly caucasian.
TheWombatStrikesAgain
Canada also didn't elect a president who's giving white nationalists a boner.
Lobuttomize
They elected a liar
Housemaster
O'Leary is running for the conservative leadership. He's basically a discount bin Trump.
yinxuu
I've read his thoughts on policy he is way more eloquent and intelligent than Trump.
NubScrub1
He's a liberal who's mean to people on TV. His platform is globalist. Nothing like Trump
Chevalpuant88
Prime minister dude !
gibsonguy77
And plenty of black people thought Obama was going to "take care of them". Also Trudeau is on record praising Fidel Castro during his death.
NubScrub1
Instead we have a virtue signaling man child. He's taking away free speech to appease Islamists.
cleverbeans
Freedom of speech does not mean freedom from consequences and hate crime laws are not new here. Do you think the Jews forced us to do it?
cleverbeans
Found the rural Albertan.
NubScrub1
Nope
kmikl
How so? If you mean a non-binding motion that carries as much weight as moving to wish someone a happy birthday, you might want to rethink.
The1stBellicose
Awww still licking your wounds Harper humper?
HCKc1n
I have a friend who moved to Florida from Toronto and she can't believe the blatant racism that goes on there
easybrz
Toronto is basically an American city in the rest of Canada's eyes
ImNotAnOrange
almost half again as many people live in Florida than Ontario and Florida is only about 1/7th the size, makes it much more likely to see
ImNotAnOrange
the people who don't like the people who don't look like them
InkyBlinkyPinkyAndClyde
Yeah but she moved from Toronto, the 4th-largest city in North America and one of the world's most diverse, to Florida which has no /1
InkyBlinkyPinkyAndClyde
cities that large. Population density was higher where she was, she saw more people in Toronto. So wouldn't it be more likely to see /2
ImNotAnOrange
pretty sure if they lived in toronto and never saw someone being openly racist they were walking around with blinders on
unclejessepinkman
And when it comes out that he faked this the news won't report on it.
TristonCarter
Why would he vandalize his own home?
SpudnickVonLichtensteinFromGelderland
One word, attention.
DungeonMaster69
Maybe he had decided to move to Canada and he couldn't sell his house because of its condition so he decided to do an insurance fraud
rostock
Then how would it "come out"?
RobertNAdams
Police blotter. Still technically "reported", but odds are it wouldn't be as widespread.
CharlesFuckingBronson
The people who did this unlawfully used violence and intimidation, especially against a civilian, in the pursuit of political aims. (1)
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5P4RK4
What isnt?
Jonesy343
terrorism and/or extremism
Deaconse
Terrorism. Extremism is a position; terrorism is a kind of political action.
WhenEmusAttack
prove they didn't do it for publicity
RJMacReadyTheThing
Yeah the guy did it to himself. Its a staged scene with minimal damage to his stuff, don't fall for race baiting shit like this.
5P4RK4
please
Cassiraa
A bias crime is a hate crime against non-black people.
SpamDragon
This is more a hate crime because the goal wasn't to create political change, just to force an indivdual to leave their home.
SpamDragon
There are a lot of terrorist groups in North America on both sides. Antifa on the left and the various armed patriot militias on the right.
HoboTerry
Unlawful violence and intimidation? When is it lawful?
Imapreacher
Anybody else think it could be staged because they done believe on the media anymore? Eh eh?
Ozzy98
It's happened in the past, but doesn't really seem like it would fit the case here. Unless maybe he was trying to get out of a lease.
CookingBaconDrunkAndNaked
Its probably a bunch of teenagers being jackasses.
jjakubik11
Ohh wow so smart.
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kong210
Gonna give some sauce with that massive call?
MCMords
Violence against couches?
aGeographicalOddity
Fuck yo couch
Mtru2disu
Don't you know that's implied violence
DeathBeUponYou
this is how the native injians where wiped out so much for the land of the free. read how white men cut babys out and flung them onto walls.
Mairoa
I mean, the US DOES exist because we really, REALLY wanted to keep committing war crimes...
AxelBeingCivil
This isn't how Native Americans got wiped out; smallpox, forced migrations, and massacres were how they got wiped out. This is how small (1)
AxelBeingCivil
ethnic minority groups are wiped out, like European Jews or Roma. (2)
QuotablePoots
Most ethnicities and civilizations did acts like these at some point in their history. Cruelty is not culturally exclusive.
Xbertie
First of all, as a native, fuck off with that "injian" crap. Second, what the hell are you on about?
DeathBeUponYou
You a native? more like some half breed asshole who dont know his history like the idiots above you. another sellout shill.
Xbertie
Pretty sure it's well documented what killed most natives, and so what if I'm half native? I was still taught my history.
DeathBeUponYou
Thats exatly the problem "I was still taught my history" the wateredown history by the slave masters. Yeh you really are in the know.
Chimichanga007
Truth hurts that's why u get downvoted.
wereid
Was it for political aims or for the lols? Idk, you don't know, all we have is violence at the level of vandalism and hateful rhetoric. (1)
wereid
Something a kid with nothing to do and some time to kill might do for some attention. Not to say this is right or good just not assuming.
theMantisTobogganMD
Sorry you got down voted by the circle jerk but you are right no one knows the motive
SPICYDlCKMlLK
Sorry you're an idiot
theMantisTobogganMD
I see you're done jerking off your friends to make a comment. make sure to wash your hands and keyboard
SPICYDlCKMlLK
Was that supposed to be clever or cringy? Because it was all kinds of cringe.
MCMords
A.K.A Vile vandalism is nasty, and hateful but it IS NOT violence or terrorism.
CharlesFuckingBronson
They threatened to murder him. That's OBVIOUSLY violence. Legally it's often considered assault.
GravitationalTimeDialation
Technically he's trying to terrorize him, and it worked considering the fact that he's leaving
TonyStarch
Breaking in to someones fucking apartment OBVIOUSLY isnt violent, not at all, it's not like it's a violent crime(chokes on sarcasm overdose)
elethomel
what about the death threats?
fuckyouandyourwittyusername
A threat is a violent act, and this is intimidation. This fits the definition of terrorism fine.
kevlarburrito
Threats of violence are considered violent acts in the US.
QuotablePoots
Not harassment?
GaySocialistLiberalMuslimCommieAtheist
No violent threats are considered "assault" generally threatening violence with evidence saying you would actually do it
QuotablePoots
Hm, I believe you are referencing a possible state law, not federal. I have never heard or researched such a annotation, but I'll research.
Mtru2disu
Threats? What threats did you see?
Mtru2disu
Seriously
slapmychipsup
You don't see the first image that is a threat?
AxelBeingCivil
"If I see you here next month, I will shoot you and burn your house" sounds like a threat to me.
theironWombat
How's it feel being that fucking stupid?
theMantisTobogganMD
You guys done jerking each other off
LiberalViking
Came here to say this.
bamblebimble
I would gladly go there and say it.
dewhicular
Actually it's a hate crime (n). a crime motivated by racial, sexual, or other prejudice, typically one involving violence.
CorwinMacGregor
multiple counts of Felony Vandalism with both Hate Crime and Terrorism enhancements.
dewhicular
In all seriousness this kind of shit grinds my gears. People are fucking assholes. Let the poor guy live his goddamn life in America.
dewhicular
With the vandalism, raging, and terrorism affixes. Mythic keystone seattle+15
Batmanatee
Fortunately, this is likely fake, like almost all of these events the past few months. Who actually writes "HATE"? Same with those swastikas
VodkaReindeer
The president often writes single world sentences like SAD.
SugarSmack
This is clearly the work of Trump himself.
Icra
Underrated comment.
Techtronic
For all we know, he could have been planning to leave the country and did this all himself. This seems overly irrational, even for a racist.
YouCantSeeButImGivingYouTheFinger
Wow.
UnsolicitedRichardPicture
I agree. It's not like anyone was recently killed by a racist after telling the victim to get out of their country.
Techtronic
I didn't know about that. Where did it happen?
ImGladWeHadThisChat
No one knows
Baz135
Bigots kill people for being different all the time, how is this overly irrational??
ChicagoStyleDotHog
So, you think racism is irrational, but not "spraypaint a house" irrational? Cool beans, bruh.
Techtronic
Especially given they are racist against him as a Muslim.
Techtronic
Racists spray paint houses all the time from what I hear but why would they paint swastikas and nonsense bits like "hate" alone on a bench
stepcs
I have become skeptical of these stories. A surprising number of these have turned out to be fake.
EconMajorHere
Yeah I just saw on the news someone shot and killed an Indian dude at a bar. Had to be fake. This doesn't happen in America.
SugarSmack
If that guy painted his french door refrigerator and is also moving out of the country, that is a really impressive level of commitment.
SnesC
He did have to do it himself. It could have been anyone who wanted to make it look like a hate crime.
Yetiphobia
You should have been skeptical in the first place. "Don't believe half of what you read, and none of what you hear." Not saying it's fake!
VoxDawg
Came here to say this.
DuggFunnie
Hey Rabbi! Whatchya doin?!
Mtru2disu
Yeah like campus rape
Mtru2disu
/ epidemic
youareprobablyanidiot
Fuck you.
TwistMyNipples
Great counter-argument.
VoxDawg
Boo birds come out en masse at the mere intimation that this might not be legit, in spite of more evidence of fakes than legit hate crimes.
VoxDawg
Can't have anyone question the myth of the Peaceful Muslim™, now can we?
PatrickJIIIMcGuigan
Garbage. I despise this kind of thing but after all that's happened not being a little skeptical means you want to believe this is true.
Pinky302
I can understand that when it's something on a receipt or something small scale but level of damage is obviously not a scam. You'd have (1)
kyrtian
There was a pastor that burned his own church to the fucking ground. SJW loonies will go to any length
Pinky302
to risk a lot to potentially get media attention or funding. I agree some people would fake something but the cost here is rather high. (2)
kittybuttwiggle
What, a couch and some paint?
M4X1N10S
I don't know 1 way or the other. If fake though it could be done for under $100...
kittybuttwiggle
Wow I guess you guys are really passionate about couches
DrSkyhammer
wasn't there someone who burned down a black church who ended up being black? legit don't remember just posing the question
Pinky302
Yes he burned down something that he had no financial stake in. He didn't burn his home. The comparison is flimsy.
Gozzu
He wouldnt have had to pay for that tho.
CharlesFuckingBronson
What's that called again? (2)
cosmicspacechair
Can't be terrorism. Only muslims are terrorists. God bless murica *sarcasm off*
Snoron
Biasism.
IneedtochangemyusernameandIguessthiswillhavetodo
being an asshole
spongebobmingepants
The irony would be lost on the dumb fucks who would do something like this
foxmsfDD
Raise your hands, assholes. The answer is terrorism.
FormerRoustabout
Monorail!
HodorIsADJ
HATE
Fisheye805
I just hear Patton Oswalt. "I hate. I HATE!"
MerToo
"Shock and Awe", if we're doing it.
Murica777
Dunno, certainly nothing that would be ironic to the situation though
ThatJuanMexican
JOHN CENA!
WhosJoe
Why do you assume there were political motivations? Did Dillon roof have politics aims? No they're just hate-filled pieces of shit.
SillyNarrator
ANTIFA
fluxcapacitor
Mainstream politics?
Icedpryo
History in a nutshell?
SiriusWolf
We used to call it the guy who said; "Welcome to Ellis Island" now we call it 'merica.
PotatoPotatoePotato
hate crime
hotrodny
Government?
theinconvenienttruth
Faking a hate crime for sympathy?
Itekisan
Hate crime hoax?
BadgerBadgerBadgerBadgerBadgerBadgerMushroomMushroom
sorry to burst your bubble this guy is a piece of shit its all fake
GordanFuckingRamsay
Side note I like your name ;)
QuotablePoots
SHUT THE FUCK UP, YOU CUNT
BourbonBarrel
QUICKER QUICKER QUICKER,RIGHT, FUCK OFF
QuotablePoots
My man.
madmaurice
Who are Bronson and Ramsay and why do they get laid so much?
QuotablePoots
Cultural Gods of the Culinary Arts and Fisticuffs.
kbellx9
The same thing anti-Trump protestors have been doing for several months against Trump supporters?
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Thatguyonline
What'd he say?
SauteThoseOnionsYouSickBastard
Something like "dogs are weird man"
SexPenguinWhoreNunToTheArchdoiceseAndOligarchy
They ARE weird. One of my friend's dogs will sit aside the TV and just stare at you the entire time you're watching
CharlesFuckingBronson
at all... ;) (2)
CharlesFuckingBronson
Oh, I forgot, he's white. It's always a poor, helpless, quiet, lonely, "seemed nice enough" mentally ill guy if he's white. Not terrorism(1)
byohzzrd
A Trump Rally?
dewhicular
Antifa rally fosho.
feeltheice
Nah that's Antifa
Yetiphobia
Sad!
mandadadada
And Wrong!
tomyironmane
It's called "Shitheads making credible threats of lethal force" And authorizes you to defend yourself in free states, but not the Left Coast
CharlesFuckingBronson
we are consistently the most handgun friendly state in the US. Red-state gun rights people all want the "Vermont carry." (2)
tomyironmane
... you do, of course, realize that Vermont is neither the left coast nor statistically common for the east coast...? You're an outlier.
Mairoa
Lolololol have you actually BEEN out here? So many damn guns and the right to use them. Stop telling me about my own culture
tomyironmane
Really? I kinda thought they followed the example set by California and Washington, my apologies.
bamcockseverywhere
I can buy .50BMG commuting from my college campus to my house. It's a ten minute commute.
CharlesFuckingBronson
I live in Vermont. We're discussing becoming a sanctuary state, we're got strong food stamp programs and disability programs and (1)
theironWombat
No silly, white people can't be terrorists! White people that do this are just really good kids that have a mental health problem (sarcasm)
frowningwithhappiness
And then they need our tax dollars to house them in private institutions until they're "cured"
frowningwithhappiness
That was sarcasm!
truedeathdealer2718
Should have added an eye roll bro
truedeathdealer2718
he was an honor student !? i eould have naever seen it coming!(rolles eyes)
myboyjericho
Not to take away from what your saying but what "violence"?
ProfessorMorifarty
violence: (law) the unlawful exercise of physical force or intimidation by the exhibition of such force.
BlondieSayWhat
Threatening to shoot him, and showing they had weapons by carving up his couch and shit
myboyjericho
That's not violence though. Not by definition. Def a hate crime but cant be labeled as terrorism
GaySocialistLiberalMuslimCommieAtheist
Terrorism is doing something to inspire terror for whatever a certain terrorists reason to be a terrorist is
greggor
Not to shit on the bandwagon, but if threats = violence, then what does the phrase "threats of violence" mean?
GaySocialistLiberalMuslimCommieAtheist
Threats of violence is a crime in its own right it's called assault.
Clickmyname
A threat is a violent act. That is why there are laws in nearly every state against makeing threats.
greggor
Same response as above. If threats = violence, then what are "threats of violence"? Violence of violence?
ProfessorMorifarty
violence: (law) the unlawful exercise of physical force or intimidation by the exhibition of such force.
GaySocialistLiberalMuslimCommieAtheist
Threats of violence = assault (name of crime)
tr3buchet
The American Way?
RJMacReadyTheThing
Man you better feel bad about your brain when they prove he did this to himself to trick idiots like you.
DarkKrieg
America's number 1 export: terrorism
Askingforafriend37
This is golden
Spkch
Hahaha, brutal!
HolyShitZoom
If you think about, he is right you know.
zma123456
KKK trademarked it
TheMayansWereOntoSomething
Got eeeem
OneGuyOnTheInterwebs
Compromise! Conformity! Assimilation! Submission! Ignorance! Hypocrisy! Brutality! The elite! All of which are American dreams!
TheSaucyPineapple
SuburbanMeerkat
https://media.giphy.com/media/Ybj3Y12x6uSo8/giphy.gif J'aime Melanie Laurent
ENCHANTMEN
SHOTS FIRED (also the American way)
TanithRosenbaum
"SHOTS FIRED (also the American way)" - 360 no scope?
ENCHANTMEN
obvs
fuckyeahmerica
Fuck no
FloodingWaters
historically accurate joke is historically accurate and fucking depressing.
ColonFilth
No chill.
TammySilverwolf
Always happy to upvote truth with one hand and stay the razor blade with the other. >_>
artintel
I hope the perpetrators of this disgrace get caught next time by a heavily armed home owner.
Rekkora
Savage
RJMacReadyTheThing
Then ask yourself why your so fucking gullible that you believed this obvious faked and staged scene, baiting scene.
RJMacReadyTheThing
Like I want you to actually punch yourself in the face with looking at yourself in a mirror when it gets proved to be bullshit.
ImFunnierThanYallGiveMeCreditFor
I believe that's called terrorism
ThisIsFrigglish
Legally? Only if the act was dangerous to human life. USA PATRIOT Act.
tr3buchet
I mean but it's fine to strike fear into the hearts of your fellow man as long as you aren't dangerous, right?
tomyironmane
He looks like he was doing pretty well for himself before some chickenshits wrecked his place. I hope he was insured.
dirtbagheadbanger
You, sir, are right.
CirB
Ding ding, we have a winner!
CallMeRif
This is fucking gold
howjom
Hi fucking gold, i'm dad
Ikasnu
No this is imgur
Schitzoflink
If you could please state your answer in the form of a question.
Clickmyname
This right here.
Bishopcdn
Whats is the defintion of terrorism?
CirB
Even shorter: what is terrorism?
T3CHN0CR4T
What is love?
WarmGlowingWarmingGlow
Doobledroogin
Blazefast
They should have blown them selves up instead of this.
MandingoNumber9
That was a cute bait and switch.
RJMacReadyTheThing
3000 plus points on an answer to a obviously painfully, dick sucking, rhetorically question? Its like kindergarten in here.
jpb103
If there's dick sucking going on in your kindergarten, you should call the police.
kapp70
No no no, just like certain groups cannot be racist, by definition rednecks cannot be terrorist. They're just good old boys having a go.
RJMacReadyTheThing
Stop it. Just stop being so painfully stupid out loud. Keep that shit to yourself.
kapp70
I'm sorry, did you say something?
MetalTao
Do we knownif it's a redneck?
Darkspire
Yeah especially now that Trump had it reclassified. http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-extremists-program-exclusiv-idUSKBN15G5VO
applejackcrunch
Also missed this. WTF?!? Seriously, how has there not been serious talk within congress to get this bad dude impeached?
frowningwithhappiness
Wow. I missed this. How long will it take to undo everything he's done so far?
thedudeman519
There are rednecks in the pacific northwest?
GaySocialistLiberalMuslimCommieAtheist
Yes as someone who has lived in Oregon California and Idaho we absolutely have rednecks Washington does too bebe lived there just havefamily
FeckItImAubreyPlazaNow
Everyone has them whether they're called that or something else. "A rose by another name smells as sweet."
GlennBecksChalkboard
So... what you are saying is, that other brown people did this? (/s - because god knows it's needed these days)
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Nathanyel
Ugh please don't.
starscape678
I think no-one got the "/s" :/
Meqad
It's a reddit thing. When you put "/s" at the end of your comment, it means that your comment was sarcastic
GlennBecksChalkboard
Welp, guess I'll switch to [SARCASM]text[/SARCASM] then.
bc3789
I like how this 3 part question and answer are Imgur's top 3rd, 7th, and 4th comments today.
battlestargingerpubes
Who writes "HATE" when doing this sort of thing? Is it like a common lingo thing among american hate groups? It feels a bit random.
thomasthetankimgurine
Bigotted racists don't understand the word subtlety, they probably think it's the words that appear in foreign films (which they also hate).
Endlogic
Yeah like "HATE MUSLIMS" it'd probably be more "Fuck Muslims" than that honestly.. This smells.
Katheebs
I like how the bag is placed over part of it in #2.
caternaut
Next time they should be more specific and write "this is a hate crime". Cmon, amateurs. Pff
midamultitooll
I feel like this was set up to blame the right..
ThisJoe
Hmm. I didn't pay well enough attention, clearly. I see what you mean. It does seem off.
thfun
I'll put $20 that this is another hate crime hoax.
babyeel
Yea, this is weird.
HULKSMASHMOUTH
r/hatecrimehoaxes
seoulfoundation
Obvious false flag is obvious
encrypteddecryption
It feels staged to me, as well. Not a SJW, though. More like an insurance scam.
corsec202
Aaaand I dont like these dishes, don't like this trashcan, refrigerator sucks, hell I don't want to clean this toilet, aaand done.
digitalist1
It's off. I like to give the benefit of the doubt to this man and assume he's telling the truth, but there have been falsified reports.
digitalist1
Since after the election.
SteveTypeRs
I frequently run around and shout "hate" at people I don't like.
50cnoodles
Im calling it a false flag.
DevouringEarth
Also *nearly* the only spray paint damage in white. Very weird.
TehRap
Someone who is lying about the whole thing. $5 says this guy did it himself
TakeRoyOffTheGrid
It is another liberal trying to "raise awareness" by hoaxing hate crimes.
HungLikeHorseFly
Definitely suspect, lets see if it gets added to the list: http://www.hatecrimehoaxes.com/
Irishda
You haven't actually clicked any of the links in there have you
EmoryToss17
Probably gonna turn out to be another hoax.
kyrtian
There's been a wave of "islamofauxbia" lately (hoaxes of crimes like this). Inb4 false flag
LiamNeesonOfficial
At least the perps didnt graffiti anything that isnt covered by homeowner's insurance; it would suck to have to biy another 70in TV.
VivaGabe
Very fishy...
theleifless
Yeh the hate seems off... but how can they report it as not a hate crime when it literally says hate
Vaanhalen
Lol could have also added "im a racist"
juststopandthink
If *you* lived in the most liberal city, and wanted to get money/fame/&c from those around you, could all this get you any of those things?
mEnTL32
The homeowner, when he is trying to create a hoax/defraud his insurance
Begotten
Makes me wonder if this is another staged event. That would piss me off too.
tagerco
Tbh it screams fake to me which in itself also sad
willi828
And they brought red and white paint? Like they knew there was red furniture? This was someone he had met previously.
SolidRadical
The falsest of flags.
GiantBlueHead
Probably a set up.
PierzOr
Smells like a Pallywood production.
sendnudesdudes
Really good penmanship on "HATE" too
invinuit350
Seems a little staged. Wouldn't be the first time. *sips tea.
PersonalityFire
Maybe someone wrote "I HATE U", but the table was moved? Or maybe whoever did this is deeply stupid?
joesii
I got the impression it meant something like "religion of hate". It is weird to write alone, but people shouldn't consider it THAT strange
gibsonguy77
It seems staged or at the very least someone with a personal issue and doesn't want anything specific to tie them to it.
xythrial
Couldn't it be part of another message?
Bladeroller
Yeah this looks staged.
CookingBaconDrunkAndNaked
Yeah, makes me think it was a bunch of teenagers.
SwaglortSeal
I'm always a bit wary of stuff like this with no witnesses, evidence, or suspects. It's sad that some would fake crimes to be a victim.
RoboCritter
Yep that one made me stop and wonder wtf
Znayx
I get what you and the others are saying, but it could be intended to mean "I hate you, you disgusting shit" or something... My best guess.
Znayx
Whether this is real or fake, they both present a strong issue in society.
woopwooppulloverdatasstoofat
he wrote "HATE MUSLIMS" somewhere else so possibly the beginning part of that? KKK members actively claim to "hate blacks" idk
TobySomething
It could have been part of a longer message
shadowex3
people writing what they think racists would say.
AcidicVanLividLove
Probably part of a longer sentence like "we hate Muslims", or, ya know, the ppl who did this aren't super bright
WhyIsThisStillEvenAQuestion
And who would write "HATE MUSLIM"? That's...not grammatically how a native English speaker would say that.
SwaglortSeal
I'm always a bit wary of stuff like this with no witnesses, evidence, or suspects. It's sad that some would fake crimes to be a victim.
willy1986tralara
Internet
ucandcantunc
Yeah probably staged.....
Tuvano
Yeah, you'd think the 'hate' part would be a given. Makes you question if the whole thing is an op or a hoax or he had friends do it.
spetcnaz
I mean it could be a part of a longer sentence that is spread across the room. Like "we" on the wall or another furniture, then "hate" and
spetcnaz
then "muslims". Something like that. Or it could be that they were just stupid or this is fake. Let's see what LE says
GiantCentipede
The perpetrators even like the same shade of red as the victim!
oieokillertofu
And Bias Crime instead of Hate is another cover up for making things sound less scary than they are. Hate must be too harsh a word.
PunchViolenceInTheFace
Feels staged, like many of these unfortunately have turned out to be.
JamesonDoughty
Probably because it's another staged fake hate crime.
Irishda
Probably because they continued their graffiti on the floor next to it
Javic1335
It was probably some liberal who wanted people to think it was a right winger, they've done things like that before just to push a narrative
Loqaon
Because it's a libtard that did it. Who else.
zmichalo
Maybe in reference to extremist islam's hatred for America
NotABadLookingNarcissist
I agree 100% that "HATE" look suspicious. On the other hand, if youre a racist idiot who really does want your Iranian neighbor to move...
DickDastardly404
Yeah, not to be overly suspicious, but I wouldn't have thought even anti-islamic folks would think of THEMSELVES as hateful.
Cheesecakecrush
While I don't doubt things like this actually happen, the highly publicized things like this are typically faked.
didgeboy287
I didn't read all the responses but it seemed the intent of the photographer to focus on the word "hate." It was probably part of a message.
MacDaddySmitt
Inside job.
JohnCBuckleySr
The increasing use of the word "hate" pisses me off. Mostly, I think, it's misused. "Hate crime" really winds me up.
couchtuberosum
Staged
ButCanHeDoItOnAColdRainyNightAtStoke
It might have been part of a line, like "we hate you" or something that was cut off or lost amongst other graffiti.
Annatrocity
They wrote Hate Muslims on the walls and the kitchen cabinet too. I think that's the gif of it
unclestankstank
I noticed that too. Seems off.
marquizzo
His interview has no agenda. It seems legit: http://www.kgw.com/news/crime/alleged-hate-crime-in-troutdale-under-investigation/426595376
lemonlime
Only spray paint & slashed couch. Notice the neat countertops. No foods & dishes thrown on the floor. Those are some courteous vandals.
xrufus7x
To be fair, one goes PSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSHHHHHHH the other goes SMASH BOOM.
lemonlime
Hmm true.
myndzha
Only a few days before this is proven as a fake. This getting more and more common.
BrawndoTheThirstMutilatorIsWhatPlantsCrave
Oh shit I didn't check the comments before I commented but I said the exact same thing
battlestargingerpubes
Seems a lot of us find something fishy. The story can of course be totally legit, but I dunno. Either way, faith in humanity destroyed.
BrawndoTheThirstMutilatorIsWhatPlantsCrave
its just in my experience with hateful people, there would be more slurs like "sand nigger" or "goat fucker", it just has an off feeling 1/2
BrawndoTheThirstMutilatorIsWhatPlantsCrave
like that one girl who faked a jewish(i believe) hate crime on her campus until it was discovered to be her 2/2
OnlyPostsGetRekt
Notice the red table in picture #4 that is painted the same color as the red spray paint
Oyarsa
Yeah, but he has a red couch the exact same shade.
TheBassSlayer
Agreed
icelandicsealbear
Well, don't put my comment in the ground, but I did get into an argument with an alt right troll called "hatehatred" so it's a thing.
Annatrocity
They wrote Hate Muslims on the walls and the kitchen cabinet too. I think that's the gif of it
MartiNowak
I'd pay $200 for that table
jackpkmn
As an oregonian the stuff in the pictures here don't look like the racist scrawls i've seen. Here in dallas i've seen a lot of them. 1/2
jackpkmn
Plus this happened in portland, which is one of the most progressive spots in the state. If it said dallas or monmouth i'd believe it. 2/2
RogueEnthusiast
Did some digging, this whole thing looks fake, no major news source has picked it up and Hasel Afshar is a place in Iran.
maxwilder
What? Yes it has. http://www.kgw.com/news/crime/alleged-hate-crime-in-troutdale-under-investigation/426595376
RogueEnthusiast
Dunno if you're joking...
bamcockseverywhere
Local broadcast news is a major news source. See the NBC logo in the corner above the "KGW"?
n0n53n53
Major news sources are too busy telling us what Trump had for breakfast
bamcockseverywhere
These guys (all locals): http://whitegenocideproject.com/eugene-pro-white-jimmy-marr-for-mayor/?cid=13926
Irish1228
I think of the "Player Hater's" on Chappelle Show... HATE HATE HATE HATE!
Thuliumchamp
We got a sweet deal on a kitchen table at a yardsale just because someone had carved a bunch of swastikas and "hate"
TheyHunger
I honestly feel this was a group of teens just looking to screw with someone. Anyone. Him being brown and all just drew them to him.
MericanNightmare
I saw a skinhead in D.C. with the words "Hate is Purity" tattooed on his forehead in all caps. Just saying...
runegod20
It's the hate group equivalent of calling OP a fag, it's just sometimes that has to happen apparently.
kcufuck
I think you're right. Tons of signs that this was someone wanting it to look bad but have never done bad things. Like spraying the toilet.
comfortableshoes
Also the spelling and writing is far better than your average racist vandal.
kcufuck
What was the thinking in that? Or the random spray paint doodles on the walls? Who, in a moment of hate filled passion, sprays a bench? Or
kcufuck
Sprays a line on a couch and then goes, oh wait I know what you look better! A couple slices down the couch. Oh but don't worry about just
kcufuck
Absolutely destroying the rest of the house. Dumping dishes on the ground, breaking windows, flipping furniture, stealing things of value.
kcufuck
And worst yet, it looks like they took their time and neatly sprayed every letter.
TheGum25
But even if it was staged, it does honestly reflect how many people feel, including our commander in chief.
jumpa
ALSO AN AMERICAN SAYING "...AND BURN YOUR HOUSE"
jumpa
Wouldn't proper english be... "Burn your house down" ? I.D.K.
JoshJohnson89
Three hundred sixty five degrees!
BaronSimple
In another photo, "hate Islam" is spray painted. Could be that the second part of the message was framed out of that photo. Or it's staged
MoonshineMicky
This article http://koin.com/2017/03/29/hate-graffiti-sprayed-on-troutdale-home/ shows a different photo of a mirror with HATE written also
Vaanhalen
Reminds me of the poop swastika case. Just nonsense
TheKyle
Which also seems like an odd thing for them to write. Definitely gives me "staged" vibes.
KnewestKnight
To me someone would probably say f islam instead.
boobphysicist
yeah well after all the other fake ones I highly doubt this isn't staged
BaronSimple
I would think a bigot would be more crass. Stuff like camel fu*ker and non-flattering remarks against Allah. Seems too soft
Irishda
I would think I'm really fucking glad you people aren't on a jury
BaronSimple
I'm not fond of bigotry in the US toward Muslims. Nor am I fond of orchestrated PR events. They hurt the cause they are trying to help
Vaanhalen
FBI just recently found a prolific antisemitic vandal was just a black liberal who was feeding pics to his journalist friend. It's weird.
GiantCentipede
It's not weird, it's psychotic.
parpy
Vandal did not have enough space on the bench to spell out "Islamophobia", obvs.
animatic
As if they'd be able to even spell it anyhow.
VivaGabe
super lol!
Vaanhalen
Lol +1
Chrisd1898
Not saying it's not true...But if I was going to vandalize someone's home, I wouldn't just write "HATE". Seems fishy.
Chrisd1898
Especially in "one of the most liberal cities". Now if someone did break in and do this, he/she/they can go burn in hell.
HectoProtecto
One of the most civil and open minded comments in this thread
AStat321
After seeing that and the various hate crime hoaxes lately I couldn't help but be suspicious about this one too...
Insomnia297
What does he have to gain? Maybe fraud to cash out on his imsurance before he left the country anyway...?
AStat321
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/why-do-people-fake-hate-crimes
MyDarlingFeet
Goddamnit, I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought so. It certainly wouldn't be the 1st time. Thanks guys, you ruin the act for everyone
Bullfred
I'm really glad I'm not the only one that thought this, I was worried I was a bad person.
RogueEnthusiast
Also Hasel Afshar (Hasel Qubi-ye Afshar) is a place in Iran. I'm highly sceptical.
DidItForScience
Do you think "real" racists wouldn't be stupid enough to spraypaint ignorant things on someone's wall?
PMMeYourPopplios
Racism isn't always ignorance, it's just a (bad) reason to be greedy
DidItForScience
Just? Probably not the word you meant? Or are you implying there are no stupid or ignorant racists? Just intelligent but rationally greedy?
ThePickle
I think the problem is real racists would be even more ignorant. This is too neat
Ironbunny
I wouldn't put it past this being done by an sjw as a false flag to "raise awareness" based mostly on that specific word being used alone.
doggo
Just like when I see someone use "sjw", their credibility is automatically diminished.
Ironbunny
Lol.
buttshredder
Neither would I, but I wouldn't jump to that conclusion either.
battlestargingerpubes
Neither would I. Just pointed out that the messages were a bit odd. Suddenly replies to my comment are racism central.
Ironbunny
I didn't say it *was* just that it's not farfetched. The whole thing looks weird to me.
hellfrogger
DING DING DING, jfc
Irishda
Because racists never say the word hate and we have literally all of the facts right in front of us. Good work detectives.
Ironbunny
I'm not saying they don't. But it's also a weird thing to write. Just seems "hello, fellow teenagers" to me, not that it's impossible.
Irishda
I mean I guess I know i can vandalize all the homes I want as long as I put one weird fuckin word into the middle of it
Irishda
Most people think spray painting "I hate Muslims" and vandalizing someone's home would be weirder. But hey they put one word so fake news
Ironbunny
TriggeredPrivilege
I saw that too. Makes me think it was a shit-stirrer looking to frame someone else.
PaleChixAreMyFetish
GET OUT OF AMERICA TERRORIST EVEN IF YOU ARE WELL SPOKEN, WELL DRESSED, AND AN EXCELLENT COOK YOUR KIND IS NOT WANTED HATE HATE HATE HATE.
tehmatser
That is EXACTLY what I think this is. This happened near Portland Oregon. A racist person wouldn't write "HATE." Shit stirrer fo sho. Sad.
wilburx
Honestly, if this was real ut wouod be alot worse. I would bet money this is to provoke a response
soupsnakes22
Sounds like A LOT of stories recently where people falsely claim it's another group when really it was then
JustRollWithIt
^ Nailed it. It's crazy how gullible people are.
woopwooppulloverdatasstoofat
I try to not write things off as fake right away when there's not substantial evidence of it being faked. I prefer benefit of the doubt 1/2
woopwooppulloverdatasstoofat
when it comes to serious things like this. It'd be super disheartening if it really happened and everyone accuses the victim of being blame.
VoltageXL1
Well its not confirmed fake yet. It's best to not jump to conclusions. Although I too am very skeptical.
L0rdM0M0
It's controversial so it must be true. Wake up sheeple!
JustRollWithIt
That's not the reason but ok
honestb
What's more likely? some kind of complicated N-dimensional false flag, or that racists are really dumb?
zombiejedediah
#2
flummoxed0709
Yeah and if it really was a some racist asshole I feel like an n bomb would have been dropped in there somewhere.
MyExistence
Complicated? Would you like examples of "hate crimes" that were all discovered to be hoaxes?
honestb
Give me statistics, not anecdata
MyExistence
I'm giving you similar cases that were hoaxes. I'm not saying this is fake, but you claiming it's impossibly complicated is ridiculous.
MyExistence
A guy faked his own kidnapping and set a car on fire with a bloody note saying it was the KKK. That's much more complicated than spray paint
MyExistence
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/breaking-news/os-fake-hate-crime-arson-20161212-story.html
MyExistence
http://nbc24.com/news/local/arrest-made-in-connection-to-racially-charged-graffiti-on-sylvania-twp-home
MyExistence
http://www.syracuse.com/state/index.ssf/2017/03/jewish_man_arrested_after_spray_painting_swastikas_on_his_own_home_in_upstate_ny.html
joethebro
IMO it's from some liberal fucktards who are trying to create chaos to be blamed on far right conservatives. It's happened before 1/2
Shadehawk
i was gonna post a link to some hate crimes perpetrated by the far right but then i decided you could just look at... history.
joethebro
Lol ya it's not even close to just left. And that wasn't the point I was trying to make. Everyone has exceptions of assholes
joethebro
Here's an article that provides a few incidents. I don't like how the author writes but still here you guys go. 2/3
joethebro
https://m.townhall.com/notebook/brianl/2017/02/21/the-left-fake-hate-crimes-liberalism-hits-a-new-low-n2288147
Seanspeed
People are upvoting this? Shameful.
JohnLemon
Fucktard here. Even I hate to say, it looks fishy.
joethebro
Is all you comment negative and political? It seems like your always trying to be right and have the moral high ground.
lunncal
Uh... Shouldn't everyone always try to be right and have the moral high-ground? How is that bad? Do you strive to be wrong and immoral???
frzn
You started yours with "liberal fucktards", man.
joethebro
I'd call anyone who does something stupid or hateful a fucktard no matter what race, culture, religion or political preference.