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gohomebaby
This is a very simplistic way of looking at it and there are a lot of negative consequences of term limits. Here’s your term limit: VOTE!!
bolinotoyou
Term limits have the good thrown out with the bad, I'd rather the bad get thrown out for being bad
GrandProtectorDark
Again, TERM LIMITS WILL MAKE THING WORSE, not better
SoPoSassquatch
NO! NO NO NO!
Hambonerhandy
This is pretty old, mitch is 79 now and Mikulski retired years ago
Hambonerhandy
Oh and McCain is dead obv
StrickenStrychnine
Somebody didn't read the title
merdock379
Yes, impose term limits so that competent legislators are forced out.
chrisinsocalif
Why not just vote them out if you really don't like them?
LordHosk
"I voted 4 years ago, and there were only two names on the ballot what am I supposed to do? not vote?" -apathetic voter
chrisinsocalif
There are more options than "voting or not voting."
LordHosk
Voting more often than every 4 years. midterms every two years, local and state elections yearly, primaries 3-6 months before the main.
chrisinsocalif
Also going to town hall meetings, meeting local reps whom are supposed to represent you and your needs. Address your concerns with local gov
KinetoPlay
Term limits make it more likely for bad candidates to get reelected. People just kind of shrug and let them finish up the limit.
alexjonesisagayfrog
If you look at states with term limits the evidence shows that you only end up making individual lobbyists the entrenched power. So is until
DarthVella
Stopped for the message, stayed for the username.
alexjonesisagayfrog
You stop lobbying from being legal you end up in a worse spot or just a lateral move away from where you started.
nilaismad
Gee wouldn't that be grand? Except congress as we know it thrives off lobbying. We have to try something to try to get changes. 1/2
nilaismad
Instead of assuming nothing will work, why can't we try? We keep sticking with the fucked up norm, and surprise! No change. Fuck that.
LordHosk
Dozens of states HAVE tried it, and it made the problem worse, it gave lobbyists WAY WAY more power because EVERY legislator was a rookie.
LordHosk
there is no reason to assume "well it would be different on the national level" just because.
shoopdaawhoop
yup. on the surface it's a great idea to limit the service to eliminate entrenched politicians. But SOMETHING is going to take their place
Aurumai
Thank God for all the red circles to show me what to look at. I wouldn't have understood this at all!
hdonaldson910
Wasn't McCain a good one. Put the Country's needs at the top. A Republican willing to work with the Democrats, for the sake of the Country
whydotheycometometodie
I agree. He did a lot for natives and he didn’t make decisions based on party politics.
ILikePunsMoreOrLessThanYouDo
The problem isn't term limits, it's uneducated & inactive voters. If they had term limits it'd just be 1 to get reelected and 1 to fk around
buttplugconsumer
The problem is a mix of term limits, lazy/uninformed voters, and corporate sponsors who owns politicians. It's legal to own a senator ?
LordHosk
Michigan has had term limits on its legislature for 30 years, all it did was increase lobbyist written bills identical to other states bills
LordHosk
People who are elected say "it takes us a year to learn the job, 3-4 years to figure out how to write a good bill, by that point we are out"
LordHosk
Special interest groups literally fly legislators in from across the country to Bill writing holidays where they hand them bills to present
whydotheycometometodie
BINGO! Hiring your employee is just the first step. Now you have to manage them for several years.
schlummi
Two party system is a problem. Proportional representation could give voters more and better options to choose from.
Nordenfeldt
No, before any and all of those, the problem is gerrymandering.
INeverWaitForIt
This. Why should we get rid of our Bernies and Warrens because Republican voters keep electing assholes?
GQPisadeathcult
You guys with your term limits are barking up the wrong tree take the money out and limits will follow. I take no issue with a guy being...
GQPisadeathcult
...in politics for any length of time if his re-election is based on working for the people and getting shit done and not taking money...
GQPisadeathcult
...but billionaires, super pacs and other shady shit.
AMoldyStump
colour me ignorant but if they're in office this long wouldn't that imply their constituents are happy with them
gossamerga
Get rid of gerrymandering first.
PteradactylStevens
You need more representation. And if you decrease term lengths to too short you’ll increase the reliance on lobbyists to write laws.
Kallos
Take money out of politics and you wont need term limits.
Schaade
Take money out of politics and you won't recognize politics.
sh3nhu
Yep, fair elections ARE term limits.
LooseSeall
Los dos. Get money out of politics and have term limits. Longer limits than the presidency but still limits.
wtforero
The problem with USA politics is that it was supposed to be a service, not a career
AnotherReplyToIgnore
Money is in politics because politicians want it there. If you can't stop corrupt people from governing, you're just fucked.
FelixG
Properly label lobbying Bribery, make bribery a treason level offence for politicians, bring in the firing squads, it will sort itself out.
Frederf
Money is in politics because money is human value and politics is administrating human value.
AnotherReplyToIgnore
I think you might be confusing taxes with payoffs.
rbh1280
There are term limits, that’s why we have elections. If you want a person out, work to get them out.
whydotheycometometodie
Or remember that the election is just the hiring phase, & after that you have to manage that employees for several years
MadCat221
Term limits by themselves would be disastrous, as it would cause an institutional brain drain that lobbyists will be happy to fill.
cdlong
And ex congressmen would become lobbyists. There's got to be a market saturation point for the # of lobbyists but I don't want to find it
buttplugconsumer
There are laws on the books for this. Public officials have to wait a year before they can become a lobbyist for anything related to what
buttplugconsumer
they represented or worked on. However that is not nearly long enough.
zFUBARz
Not to mention a big name would still be able to sway new representatives to an unrelated cause easily with the right funding..
JayEnfield
And ensure that every politician has a set finish line that they need to have their cushy lobbying gig lined up by. BIG incentive to grift.
FiveShiftOne
They'd change very little. Everyone would basically just anoint their successor and entrenched power would get *worse*.
JustAGamerDreamin
I don't know if I believe this shit anymore, I think this argument is just perpetuated by lobbyists trying to keep their cash cows in power
LoquaciousDude
There is a lot wrong with the US, term limits(or lack thereof) and lobbyism isn't part of it. Two party system, low voter engagement, >
LoquaciousDude
and lack of proper funding for political parties is much more to blame. In Denmark we have a dozen political parties, and they get 70% of >
LoquaciousDude
their funding just by getting elected(20k dkk per voter). They can focus on representing their constituents because they don't need to >
LoquaciousDude
worry about money. They are able to make their party work with the voter money and a few donations. They also all basically sponsor their >
LordHosk
dozens of states have enacted term limits, and lobbyists are literally writing the bills now.
LordHosk
They fly legislators from across the country to "bill writing holidays" were they give them all the same bill to take back home and pass.
LordHosk
Nestle had the same let us drill water for free bill word for word, passed in 11 states by this method.
CaptnRobAnybody
I want them to wear jackets like NASCAR so we know who bought them.
HollandOates13
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tristanbistan5
Yeah. It should be illegal for politicians to take money while in office
LordHosk
You can look it up online! You can type in "Senator name Largest donor" ITS NOT THAT DIFFICULT!
NationalistCanadianMooseWarrior
Doubt that would work tbh. Would probably just bind people's political identities to brands they buy, buying would=support for them.
LordHosk
They literally already disclose all their campaign contributions already and its easily searchable on the internet!
KingCornish
afatrollofmyown
opensecrets.org has already done the legwork for you.
skankhunt51
I want you to have an original thought
martin2troll
That was my reaction as well!
NationalistCanadianMooseWarrior
The internet is the wrong place to look lmao
JohnnyGossamer
Congressional term limits are just a transfer of power to unelected bureaucrats.
DavosTheOnionKnight
Where's Pelosi?
icculus760
waddyaknowjoe
I think McCain had a different kind of term limit
imgureg
Jsupes
That’s currently the only term limit for Congress
FourScoreAndSevenBeersAgo
He had a terminal limit.
SendMeOxygen
I see that he died there.
florpglorp
Actually had he not died of a brain tumor on the job maybe the ACA would be completly gone today.
HaveANiceFace
One of the last things he did was vote against Trump. I forget what the vote was atm tbh, but he was not a complete shitbag republican...
ThatOtherMacAvoyWoman
He flew to DC with a bubble in his brain that drs said a flight would kill him to vote against repealing the ACA. He’s not my fave but...
ThatOtherMacAvoyWoman
He literally risked his life to be the deciding vote on the ACA and he went against his party to do it.
ChainmailleAddict
He voted against repealing some vital parts of the ACA because he knew a healthcare plan he disagreed with was better than none. Boss move!
DontTazeMeBrah
esp for his state which at the end of the day, is what you are suppose to do for your voters
florpglorp
Idk if it makes up for the way he voted on previous occasions but it should be appreciated for what it is.
TalkingSnake
Oh what, like McConnell didn’t die five years ago and Kentucky necromancer didn’t pop him back up.
HenryPicklecopter
Now this is some good conspiratorial shit right here. I’m starting a blog based on your comment and you can’t stop me
TalkingSnake
Call me RST
Rifneno
He died 7 years ago, and he's a lich. Jesus, dude, what are they teaching in schools these days?
eathotdog
Damn swamp magic
TalkingSnake
Yeah, Kentucky swamps are weird.
SuicidalThrillbillyturnedLunaticChillbilly
He wasn't raised from a dead body. He became Lich McConnell.
originaljbw
Weekend at Mitch's?
icanmakeayomamajokeoutofanything
PUMPKINHEAD!
Sonicschilidogs
As someone from Kentucky..... No one here that supports McConnell is smart enough to raise a rat, let alone this bloated bog-monster.
QuickLighting53
Yet he won with like 70% of the vote? Is the entire state just dumb as dirt?
Sonicschilidogs
No, not the entire state, just 75-80%, give or take
Kilroy115
All McConnell has to do is say "Coal" and a huge amount of Kentuckians will kiss the ground he walks on. It's the same here in southwest VA
TalkingSnake
More like “coe-ll”
Kilroy115
It's literally like that one Episode of Family Guy where Lois gets elected just by saying "9/11"
imreallyjusthereforthecats
Kentucky Necromancer sounds like a euphemism for someone who makes both moonshine and meth, sometimes in the same batch
AlphaKenneyBody
I’d drink that
Lvl20GoblinChampion
Methshine? We make dat out back n' de head o' de holler.
blockedtrem
It’s a blue grass death metal band...
MalcomTheIncubus
I’m not sure I’d want to listen to their music, but that’s a damn good band name.
secretdpp
........ for Kentucky necromancy
sandshoesman
Holy shit that actually got me to laugh loudly and woke the gf.
imreallyjusthereforthecats
AlphaKenneyBody
FourLoko meet TwoTeefLeff
dedpaen
I say we find this Kentucky Necromancer and offer him a deal. “So right when he takes the podium, slowly undo the magic....”
MidoryMoon
Right, because then you end up with people like Matt Gaetz and Marjorie Taylor Greene. How's that working out?
FiveShiftOne
You also end up with people like AOC essentially not having enough time to make a positive impact. Term limits wouldn't solve much.
MrJwinkyface
nilaismad
So exactly what we have now, but with less of a chance of seeing them go? At least it would be an attempt to change this shit...1/?
nilaismad
We could at least try for a few decades, since the shit that's been ongoing isn't working for anyone but rich fuckers. To expand on it 2/?
nilaismad
why the fuck do they get to choose they're salaries? And why aren't they subject to the same healthcare as their constituents? 3/?
nilaismad
It doesn't matter what party, the majority is only there because they have money and connections. The ones that give a shit 4/?
nilaismad
are shut right down or demonized for radicalism since they threaten the comfy norm congress has grown so used to. 4/5
QuickLighting53
Sounds like Gaetz might be taken care of with his child raping investigation though.
herejusttopointouterrors
Hopefully. But how long does it take? Jeez.
realrealluckless
Term limits aren't really a solution to a root problem, they're a bandaid that does more to hide the root problem than to solve anything.
LooseSeall
This is misleading. There is no singular root, there are multiple roots, multiple problems. Lack of term limits is one of those roots.
realrealluckless
Lack of term limits is something problems abuse. It is not a problem in and of itself, and viewing it as one only masks actual problems.
WorthEveryPenny
Lobbyists love term limits; keeps power, strategy, and legacy knowledge in lobbyists, making them more powerful and elected leaders weak.
djj25
Let’s start with term limits
realrealluckless
Or,... Acknowledge the wider and far larger problems, and address those up front, and then maybe also include term limits?
SLCBurrito
"Garbage in, garbage out ... Term limits ain't going to do any good" ~George Carlin
NSAgent
We have term limits in our state legislature in CA. In practice it has meant that lobbyists are the only permanent residents of Sacramento.
whydotheycometometodie
~15 states have term limits. Most of the limits are 8-12 years.
Myfirstgirlfriendturnedintothemoon
Exactly. Ohio too. Sounds good in theory, but doesn't make a positive change.
xjsxjs
Same in Michigan. Only the fringes get elected and they are immediately in a lobbyist’s pocket.
lilEinsteinandtheOverStimulatedProstates
Its been a disaster in Montana. Turns out, running a government is difficult work and now the only ones with any experience are lobbyists.
whydotheycometometodie
What is the root problem?
realrealluckless
Lobbyists funding and First Past the Post voting.
whydotheycometometodie
That won’t be a problem if people took the time to manage the members of Congress they hired to work for them.
realrealluckless
Having the tools for a population to actually manage the selection to something better than three shitty option and the Shittier option...
whydotheycometometodie
The tools & options come front the people. Instead of complaining & blaming, why don’t you provide a tool or be the better option?
CandidGamera
Totally agree, the monocausal tunnel vision many have thinking this is "THE solution" is worrying, but it's a first step.
DorianHyde92
We just need more transparency,and also for parties to present valid solutions if they have problems with a bill,instead of just voting no
StellarJay77
Yup, doesn't help when these incumbents are the ones that make the rules that keep them there. The playing field needs serious leveling.
AbeFromanSausageKingOfChicago
I think of it more as a multifaceted approach. It’s one of a few tactics to solve the many....many problems with congress.
DorianBlack
People are gonna be really pissed when they find out the ROOT ROOT problem is the voter and how much time they invest in governance matters.
Trashpandafan
So a voter should not be concerned in governance matters?
DorianBlack
No THEY NEED TO BE INVESTED more. Engaged more. Politicians an BS if you know what's happening. N to few.
FantabulousMan
Nah, the true root is that hiding your funds in another country isn't considered treason. A few executed billionaires would do much good.
nihiltres
Having money in another country shouldn't *alone* be a problem, e.g. I wish I'd've been able to keep my Canadian TFSA on moving to the US.
soromon
* how little time *
whydotheycometometodie
AGREED
killymcmurder
Maybe, maybe not. We would be rid of ol Moscow Mitch by now though and I am in favor of that.
killymcmurder
Some good food for thought in the replies. So +1 fake internet point to each of you.
xjsxjs
It doesn’t work. It opens up to more corruption and easier lobbyist manipulation. Only the fringe gets elected. It’s ruined Michigan.
NomDeImguerre
Also, Bernie, though.
QuickLighting53
And he would be replaced by more GQP crazies like the two QAnon women they added recently.
realrealluckless
An election system where candidates are all on a level playing field, regardless of lobbyist backers, and a ranked ballot would do that too.
Tesseract09
I suppose even if replaced with someone who has the same agenda, they wouldn't have the same position.
DiracsDelta
Okay... but if I’m bleeding out from a severed artery, I think a bandage could still be an important step...
realrealluckless
If you want to keep bleeding and die a few seconds later and you would have otherwise while everyone ignores the severed artery, sure...
IronIce111
A bandage won't do shit. But packing the wound would. Or cauterizing it.
CyborgScribe
Burning everyone in congress probably would make the goverment even less efficient
DrForester
Need election finance reform so it's easier to defeat incumbents. Then it's easier to vote out bad politicians.
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SamArt53
Preach!
QuickLighting53
Ranked choice voting is the key.
kastewbeef
Gotta unwind this insane gerrymandering back to pre Gingrich days—1980, at least.
TheOvy
This. Freshmen congressmen are really stupid and just do what experienced lobbyists tell them to do. Money is the problem, not term limits.
DorianHyde92
Imagine being voted for based on what good you've done for the country,instead of how much air time you bought with borrowed money
da1stjster
Also gerrymandering needs to be addressed
mazelt0vc0ckt4il
When initially started the life terms were meant to deter being influenced by the need to get elected so they could remain impartial
mazelt0vc0ckt4il
It's also why they were given such high salaries. The hope was that by doing so they wouldn't be able to be bought. A lot of people talk
mazelt0vc0ckt4il
about how the US system is "bad" but it's more along the lines of good system that got corrupted by loopholes people exploited.
totallyserious69
That’s far more important IMO. Term limits are completely unnecessary when you have fair elections.
puffyjacket69
This. Limit campaign contributions to 10 bucks. Force grass r finance and you'll only get popular candidates instead of corporate shills.
Link01
Problem is we rely on them to vote on ways to make it easier for them to be voted out
Gen1Optimus
I assume the bad politicians have already made it harder to do that
sadiakay7
Agreed, and it would also provide a chance for us to see how our politicians manage a budget for once.
OddOod
Not that I disagree, but I have spent a lot of time thinking about it and I can't figure out how to make it effective.
OddOod
Like, I can take out an ad and say whatever I want. We already limit how much money they can take.
Tristers1
straight up just need to reform, most if not all levels of the us federal and state governments, bring it into the mordern world
misterCT
TheNewYellowZealot
“Hey, so you know how you get donations from people to keep you in office? We need you to vote to put a stop to that.”
CrepeModel
Term limits?
Syovere
Term limits attack the symptom, but governance is not easy and frankly experience should be considered an asset. The problem is that the 1/
Syovere
current election system and lack of finance regulation makes it too easy to turn the position into an unending cash engine with no 2/
Syovere
accountability. You can afford to flood the air with bullshit because you're profiting off the position you're lying to keep. 3/
Syovere
Fix finance and lobbying, and much of the rest will follow on its own.
cheekyrunning
No ! You need term limits
lasertag2000
There's a great video of this guy explaining all the advantages the incumbent has, even advantages that are written in the books but I can't
lasertag2000
find it with today's search engine, even with my search hacks.
Housemaster
I know it's a longshot but... have you tried going on page 2 of Google search?
SamArt53
That’s crazy talk!
amoeba15
Blasphemy!
TheBestSpiderQueen
Also need to get lobbying under control
wellthisjustgotinteresting
guess what the overlap is on the "can fix lobbying" and "benefits from lobbying" venn diagram
uppercasenumbers
So you mean a circle?
wellthisjustgotinteresting
I mean there are, like, three outliers, but basically a circle, yeah
Wyattcon11
All we need to do is put a cap on a per person contribution. Companies should not be able to contribute. Repeal Citizens United.
Targe0
Easy way to get lobby money under control is for all lobby money be placed into a central fund that all parties are allocated for their ->
Targe0
needs and it all requires recipes and detailed reasons for needing the money. This prevents one party out raising any other. It also help ->
Targe0
Makes all funding Donated viable and regulated. And the smaller under dogs have the same shot at using it as the big guys.
JustAnotherRandomStranger
Lobbying is just a fancy Word for organized corruption
theusernameformerlyknownastildo
I've never understood your 2 year terms for house of representatives. Any reason why it's so short? You get elected and you are already /1
theusernameformerlyknownastildo
having to plan your re-election campaign. A 4 year limit would seem more reasonable, and maybe 1/2 of congress is elected every 2 years. /2
theusernameformerlyknownastildo
This way you still have a house turnover every 2 yrs but allow representatives a bit longer to actually work and not focus on elections. /e
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theusernameformerlyknownastildo
Thanks for the info. I still think that 2 years is not really proper amount of time to get anything done. I elect a mayor and council for /1
venomlash
When the rules were written, campaigning wasn't such a big part of things.
420supercoolusername69
Age is a big problem here, too.
stevethegr8t
Absolutely. Mental acuity drops precipitously after 70. Pretty much unavoidably so. Let’s build a buffer in and say 65 is the cutoff
Zaranthan
I mean, if they were limited to eight years, it wouldn't be. I don't mind a bunch of 40 year olds running the country.
iquestionthepinappleeveryday
I do
Zaranthan
At some point, you hit a soft cap of needing time to collect enough political capital to get elected to a federal seat.
DangerTrain
Also wealth. It's all rich, old people. They don't understand shit.
GOAE
Even if they do understand modern problems, it's not in their best interest to solve them. Exploiting is more profitable in the near term.
GOAE
Need to reduce the influence of businesses on congress and try to make congress non-profit. Money talks louder than words.
gwenniechan
Most of the got elected in their 40s or early 50s and are still there. Shame.
DionysianMask
They just don't die anymore
afatrollofmyown
Must be that govt healthcare they all get.
Hoodzilla86
Well they didn't start that old. Schumer was 30 when he was first elected
ravandil
Yes but now because he and others won’t GTFO have fun getting elected even in your 40’s
grandestgrandeur
I KINDA agree. But then you have folks like Bernie Sanders, who keeps abreast of all relevant and current topics. But most of 'em don't.
BobaFettApproves
We don’t even get to pick them.
ProbablyPoe
The demographics in general are a problem
afatrollofmyown
70% of them are in their 70s, and got rich IN office. That alone makes them unfit to serve.
Cranbananarama
Looks like a bunch of old fogeys desperately trying to cling to their power.
breakingthorns
Agreed. Decisions about the future should be made by people who will actually be there.
WildBuffalo
Yeah its a problem that the yougest of them is shumer at the ripe young age of 64
lamoinejeff
Isn't the average age of Mcconnell, Schumer, Pelosi, and Biden like 75 years old?
sandshoesman
Exactly. My mom is in her 60s. She votes R no matter if it’s a literal turd on the ballot. And there’s so many people that have been 1/2
sandshoesman
Voting that way for 40+ years for the exact same people just because the letter beside their name. I hope inthe next 2 decades that changes.
WeAreJustDustInTheWind
Agree but the people taking the spots are not johnny from down the street who has a point, its my Son/Daughter taking my spot kind of thing
CleverClavicleCleaver
It's not a good idea to use stereotypes to judge individuals. Let the old people who are good at their jobs keep doing them.
Manikasaurus
Who even wants to go to work when being 80yrs!? Go home, do something fun, learn to bbq or take a nap
afatrollofmyown
That's the part that gets me. Theyre already rich, they have govt healthcare, why don't they fuck off to the Maldives already
iquestionthepinappleeveryday
People with a life purpose bigger than themself.
sandshoesman
You think these people are actually serving anyone but themselves?
iquestionthepinappleeveryday
You can. Go do it. Today. Into your old age. Dedicate your life to something. It’s possible.
sandshoesman
What’s not possible at this moment in American politics is knocking these old incumbents out. I vote and do what I can but that’s all I can.
malakim
But what if instead of yelling at young people to get off your lawn you could make a law against lawn-loitering under the age of 20?
theDogter
Money and power and hard to let go of. Who are you going to make do what you want- the dominatrix?
Josiahkf
Interesting signature on your post -the guy not judging
Imalwaysready
You don't think 70yo white dudes are the best to make laws about technology, the future of the climate, and systemic racial issues?
afatrollofmyown
70yo white dudes still don't understand no means no or how mute on zoom works. They shouldn't be running the place.
DanaConti5
Don’t forget reproductive health options!
yhellothargoodsir
Limit should be 65(like retirement age) and 10 years in each(house/senate)
drcookieninja
Yeah it is 65! You gotta be 65+!
stickywiggit
I'm okay with 70/72 sinc humans are living longer and not degrading as rapidly, but 80 is wildly not okay.
lasertag2000
That's age discrimination, you bigot.
yhellothargoodsir
Cruelroullette
So many downvotes... sarcasm really doesn't translate over text sometimes.
SeriousCloud
I downvoted the sarcasm
picklesue
That's what /s is for
Cruelroullette
I... didn't even know that was a thing. Makes sense.
SarcasticComment
Sanders is in this statement. Imgur might freak out over an all or none on old people in government.
SarcasticComment
3 downvotes. 0 replies. As expected.
SarcasticComment
Weirdly muted. Sanders being an exception in your eyes does not remove him from an "age and years Info chart" for any reason other than bias
LooseSeall
Sanders is relatively uncommon in his age demo. His mentality and beliefs aren’t nearly as uncommon in younger demos.
autodidacticcortex
How do you reconcile that statement with the fact that age is a federally protected class? anti ageism policy which applies here too.
EmpathyIsMyReligion
There are literally already age restrictions on office. If there's a min, there can be a max without it being ageist. Otherwise, we're
QBertSpuckler25
Thank you...was looking to see if anyone would acknowledge the current age minimum requirements.
EmpathyIsMyReligion
Discriminating against young people with current laws
autodidacticcortex
I’m not fully informed here but I think age protections prohibit unfair practices against old people. Term limits = fair without prejudice.
EmpathyIsMyReligion
Sure, but we really do need to make legislature more accessible to a younger generation.
Stefnos
yeaa.. old people think in old ways... no inovation
lasertag2000
way to stereotype, you ageist. Bill Gates seems pretty innovative.
TemetNosce000
They should still be there at some capacity for their experience though. Experience is incredibly important.
WhyArentYouAtYourPost
Unpopular opinion here but there is something to be said in regards wisdom and age. However when you hit the mid sixties it’s time to go. 1/
WhyArentYouAtYourPost
But I am definitely all for term limits and if your out of touch it’s time to be gone.
rifte0201
Assuming they can still think at all...
leeloumultipass
Also... they likely do not understand the internet, tech companies, security. I’m 30. I still don’t know what ‘cookies and cache’ are.? Are
leeloumultipass
we supposed to trust that these 80 year olds are properly securing digital gov docs from foreign interests or domestic threats? Ahhno.
SamArt53
I’m 68. It’s a fallacy that “old people” don’t understand technology. Most of the people who INVENTED the predecessors to today’s tech
SamArt53
-nology are “old”. I’ve been doing using the ‘internet’ since ARPAnet at UCSB in 1978. I worked in IT since 1971. Maybe because of my
Frederf
Eh, Sanders or Hawley?
Onlyhereforthelaughs
Old people phone ads: "We weren't born yesterday, and we know a thing or two."
youbetchamom
As an old person, I 100% agree! There needs to be an age cap. Old people just can't relate to the day to day lives of young people. 1
youbetchamom
We should not be making decisions that impact the young, and all these old men shouldn't be making decisions about women's health. 2/2
ArgentXero
Sort of, we need a combination of experience and innovation. Age isn't a factor, only lack of wisdom.
PoppinLochNessHopster
Kind of like they want to like... conserve things... conservatively.
Fistouille
People like Madison Cawthorn are very young tho. While term limits is needed, being old doesn't necessarily mean out of touch fascist
imoutofnames
Well he is a conservative. Conservatism is old thinking, and stifling innovation. And if all else fails, he's a Republican meaning he (1)
imoutofnames
Has no actual policy and exists solely as a reactionary to liberals and to do the opposite.
Stefnos
ment the people on the picture above ^^.... but yea they cant all always be old... some have to start out slightly younger then fossile
spittleteets
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dduncan55330
They've gotten rich on the old ways, why would they change it?