the Pennsylvanians will, without irony, give precise and accurate directions for the Atlantic Ocean. ... when you repeat the word "pacific" they will blink and scratch their heads in surprise and ask you, "WHAT other ocean? what do you mean 'OTHER' ocean ????"
It's not just Europeans. I had a coworker from Rhode Island who was excited about taking her first trip out west, to Phoenix for a work conference. She told me she booked her flight so she could arrive a day early because she wanted to rent a car and go to Sedona, the Grand Canyon, and Monument Valley.
I've worked in customer service for 23 years. The majority of the public are morons. I would not trust the average person with directions on following a straight line. Let alone trust they can read distance on a map
This kind of thing happens in the Australian state of Queensland. Fornahs reckon they can drive from Brisbane to Cairns for "the weekend". Note: this 1000 mile trip takes 19 hours of straight driving. You CAN do it in two days but most sane people take three.
Wife worked in Switzerland as a student in the 90s. Coworkers made fun of "extravagant" Americans flying when they travel inside the USA. She asked them how long it takes to drive across Switzerland the long way: about 4 hours. That might get you across California the short way. It takes 12-14 hours solid driving the long way. And that's only one state. They were blown away.
When you're using to Europe's high speed rail system, it could feel extravagant tbh. It wouldn't be unusual to take a train 1-2000 miles in the 90s (hell, I casually did around 1000 miles the other month), but in the US your only options are driving or flying.
These days in Europe short-haul flights are fucking cheap, so I can often do those distances for less than $50 return.
Conversely Americans think that just because something is 50 miles away that it'll take under an hour. Babygirl, there are a thousand years of history and a whole US state's worth of people between hither and yon.
Anybody is gonna realize it depends on the roads and the area. No one expects to go quickly through an old town, busy area, down twisting roads, etc. (except maybe Trumper-types who avoid thought and reality at all costs).
Oh I've met some Americans (multiple occasions) who legit expected to be able to drive from central London to the north of Scotland in a morning, and one planned to then take the train to Ireland. The train.
To be fair there's also an inverse thing with americans coming to Europe who can't grasp how built up with urbanisation much of it is. Also european trains.
Actually much wider, depending on your definition. The moon's equatorial diameter is a little under 3500km, but the longest straight line between any two points in the contiguous US is ~4650km
The second driving through parts of the historically ignorant, previously slave owning, and currently(or not currently depending how you look at it) fascist loving Deep South of the United States
The actual itinerary would be more like "Arrived at airport, phone confiscated for meme inspection, insensitive images of great leader found, straight back to Europe (or prison)"
It really hasn't. It is just more visible and audible. This didn't just appear suddenly but has been growing for decades. All those racists and bigots got was a sign it was now okay to be open about their racism and bigotry.
I disagree. I didn't mean it was sudden either. It's been building over time, but it's definitely increased. Most likely from stupid people gobbling up Russian propaganda disguised as Conservative Americans. Of course, the build wasn't as visible until now. Every country has rascism in some form, so the US is not alone in this. I deplore how things are going and really hope we can turn the ship around, jit it's going to take awhile and some cultural changes to try and eradicate.
Remember when Ed Bolian had AmEx decline his gas card because he was in TX getting gas faster than a plane could fly from NY/NJ - so it musta been fraud (he was doing the Cannonball Run).
Yes! Brian Fucking Schul. The most badass MF piloting one of those beautiful beasts! Almost all fotos of the SR71 taken in the timeframe of its active duty so betreten 1966 and 1972 are also taken by Brian Schul. He got an „under the table“ special permit to take pictures of this top secret aircraft back in the day. I recommend his book „Sled driver“. Get the PDF from your usual sources, because printed copies go for a pretty penny these days.
The Cannonball Run is New York city to Los Angeles. The current record is 25 hours 39 minutes. Their AVERAGE speed was 112mph. You have to use a car with modified gas tank extensions and you need spotters to help you avoid the cops.
I wasn't serious - I know the logistics don't work. It's just a joke about how fast sports cars sometimes drive on European motorways (I've been driving at 180kph and left for dead by cars that flash by).
I'm cackling. I had to rent a car to drive from Florida to New Jersey and back earlier this month when all the flights got cancelled. Bus/train tickets were all gone at that point and my hubby needed to be home for work. It took me from Sunday at noon til Tuesday evening midnight, and that's with minimal sleep and trading driving shifts to get back in time for work. 1-2 hour drive to NYC my rinestone studded patootie.
Like Americans aren't just as bad. Had a senior couple arrive in Prince George (14h drive from WA) wondering why they hadn't reached Alaska (another 20h drive) yet. SMH
I have done that drive several time when traveling from FT. Hood to my parents place in San Diego. You always knew when you left Texas because you stop seeing dead animals on the side of the road.
I’ve driven all three and hated I10 the worst. You’re in Texas for nearly 900 miles. That is too long to be in a shitty state. On 70 and 80 you rotate through different shitty states.
Last time I drove through west texas, the only thing to see was grain silos and video porn stores. Can hit search on the FM radio and watch as it loops all the way around the band without landing on a station. Now I hear there are lots of wind turbines.
Yeah... I was halfway across the state (having driven half of AZ and through NM before that at 80 mph when I noticed the decals on the trailer "Not over 65 mph". Knowing a bit about tires, I decided to read the labels - they are rated 65mph. Cheap ba$tards at U-Haul.
I'd like to introduce you to the Afsluitdijk, the dam and causeway that closes off the Zuiderzee in the Netherlands (turning it into the IJsselmeer). 20 miles of completely straight driving with just water to see. Simultaneously an incredibly beautiful and horribly boring drive.
LOL. Okay, first off, we got one of those. Only no land, pure bridge for 24 miles. Second, Salt Lake city to Cheyenne is 440 Miles of straight flat sparse land so desolate they have signs warning about the last gas station for XXX miles because if you're not topped off you won't make it to the next gas stattion and there is no cell service to call someone to bring you gas. Dallas to Pecos is about the same miles and so straight and flat they put bends in the road every now and then just to keep
Even Americans do this. My FIL from North Carolina visited us in Houston and wanted to take a day to see Big Bend State Park and the mountains. Yeah, that's a no dad.
Yep. I had family visit from out west to Philadelphia. They thought they could take a trip up to the Statue of Liberty, come back, go into Philly and see a lot of sights, then head down to Washington DC and see things there too. Like sure, it's TECHNICALLY doable, but you're going to basically be driving by everything, missing a hell of a lot, and not enjoying anything.
I thought I understood how big the US west is, but I didn't fully comprehend it until my train reached the Badlands in ND. I'd never been able to see that far over land without being on top of a mountain, and had never even thought any landscape could be that barren without being covered in water
Since we know that we couldn't even do that in Europe, and we alao knpw that US is larger, no Europeans would make this mistake, it's a " joke" made by 'muricans.
My buddy's ex was from Okinawa and her family came to visit and they wanted to see all the touristy stuff like the White House and Mount Rushmore and he's like "That's a whole separate vacation we need to plan." They had no idea that those things were 10 and 15 hour drives from Southern Michigan. They also got frustrated that the drive from O'Hare to his house took 3 hours.
The USA is so big and road-tripping Americans so inured to it that, after driving from NYC to St. Louis to see a solar eclipse, my friends and I decided to day trip it to Hopkinsville, KY to get out from under cloud cover. No biggie. Just four hours there and four hours back to St. Louis. And then my wife and I did it again for the most recent eclipse, from Ogdensburg, NY to Newport, VT and back, 4+ hours each way (due to traffic).
This happens all the time in Australia. Dutch people landing in Darwin, in the far north, thinking they can drive down south to Melbourne in a couple of days. We're talking NY to LA kind of distance there
i think "europeans don't realize how big is usa" is mostly usa circlejerk, and not gonna happen though, whenever i talk with anyone about usa as holiday destination it usually ends up with "oh that would be cool but i would have to take around month off for it to be really worth it"
I mean, "I want to go see xyz that's not in this very area" quickly takes a couple hours one way in Europe. Europe is small-er, not small.
If you visited me and told me you wanted to see any mountain, that's 3 h 30 m one way, the Brandenburger Tor, that's 4-5 hours. If they wanted to see the Alps, 9 h. That's just inside little Germany with good traffic.
I've known more than one. The guy who was scheduled at trade shows on opposite coasts 1 day apart looked particularly harrowed when he was told the truth.
Once, in Trondheim, Norway, I was approached by an American in a rental car asking for directions to North Cape (Duh, it's to the north from there...). Apparently, a cruise ship was in town. Trondheim to North cape is 1,000 miles and takes 21 hours by car, one way. To this day I wonder whether he was able to catch the boat back...
True, I distinctly remember looking across about 150m of water, looking at the map, and realising it was about a 200km drive to get to the other side...
Yeah, it really does go both ways. North Americans hear Europeans talk about driving or taking a train two or three countries away and joke that if they drove that long they would still be in their state and get the impression that every country in Europe is tiny.
Admittedly, we do have a particularly long and very coastal country compared to overall size and population, but I also suspect that they grossly overestimated the average speed (38 mph) on our roads. The blue X'es mark the approximate positions of the places in question on this comparison, I don't know if this would be considered a two-day trip in the U.S.
I tried, without being too nosy, to ascertain whether the tourist actually knew the distance or had time whithin the schedule of the cruise ship to do the trip, but he was quite adamant he could do it.
I looked at the distances on google when I first read your post and Google maps said the Norway trip would take about 21 hours like you said. For the NYC to Miami trip which is 1288 miles it said it would only take about 18 hours. Interstate highways in America are fast moving and uninterrupted unless you hit rush hour traffic jams around large cities. Think Autobahn but with a 60-70 mph speed limit.
I am even suspicious of the 38 mph average that our road database lists today. So many things that can and will happen here. And this was around year 2000 so there were more ferries, sharp curves that slow down the fish trucks and fewer tunnels back then. And not a single bit of 4-lane road on that stretch. I would recommend 4 days for the round trip.
Had a UK friend of the family fly over, Heathrow, JFK, ATL. They stayed with my mom in Atlanta. I was in my 20s and at the time living in Jasper, GA, pretty country place. I went and got their teen kid, took him to my place. When we got there, a 44 mile drive, he asked if we were back in New York. They really just can't grasp the difference in scale. Also, took him to hooters and he told everyone I took him to a strip bar. Did some target practice too, half way through he asked me
how illegal this was, and I laughed. Like, okay, technically we're not supposed to be on the back porch, but the only guy that could see us was my next-door neighbor, who was retired USMC, and I've seen him take a deer from inside his double wide, he ain't calling it in. Anyone would just be reporting gun fire, which would get the response from the 911 operator of "and?"
Europe and the US is a similar size. Scale probably isn't the issue, not knowing the geography probably is.
If you're in Hamburg in Germany, you can take one road almost the whole way down to the Alps - it still takes around nine hours to drive it if you're averaging around 60 miles an hour. I don't expect many people in the US to know that.
It's comparing to areas of similar size. The USA is a federation of 50 states with an area of 9.8M square kilometers. Europe is an area of 10.1M square kilometers containing 44-50 states (depending on who you ask).
Texas and Ukraine are of comparable size, and there are a number of states not much smaller than Texas within Europe.
I don't think we're arguing about any of those definitions? The image the OP is obviously exaggerated but my online experience with Europeans is that they do underestimate how big the US is.
There's a saying about it somewhere, something like "Americans think 100 years is a long time, Europeans think 100 miles is a long drive", I can't remember the exact wording.
I think the problem is these people aren't mentally accustomed to thinking "home" is "Europe", they're thinking home is " Western Europe" and scaling to that size, not the whole of Europe size. But IDK, I'm just an American.
I think part of the difference is Europe has a fantastic train system for getting anywhere of a significant drive, which has an advantage of both being faster speed, no traffic, and you can get up, stretch your legs, etc so the trip is more comfortable. In the same amount of time you'll get further and be more comfortable the entire time.
Western Europe does have excellent trains - depending on the route you can travel 1000 miles in around 6 hours; in the US that would often be a long drive, or taking a flight.
Europe also has a pretty good network of cheap flights; I can often get return flights to other major cities for $50 or less.
My wife and I dated long distance in college. I used to routinely drive from Sarasota to Tuscaloosa. Had to make sure I was staying for at least 5 days to make the nearly day total of driving worth it
Yeah I flew into Florida to help a sibling escape it. I arrived at around 7 AM and we spent a bit of time picking up our uhaul and 2-3 hours dicking around, but... The fact is we didn't actually cross state lines until shortly before midnight. I remember, because it was NYE.
Yeah I drove down to Florida from PA a while ago, took 18 hours and most of that was just in Florida. We didn't even make it half way down the peninsula.
Grew up in Gary IN, moved to southern IL (on the border to Kentucky) before the lockdown, have since moved to middle Florida; yeah the distances are insane. From Lake Michigan to Kentucky is about 6 hours... It took 9 hours to get to Florida from there and another 6 hours after arriving in Florida to reach where I am now. To get back to Gary would be over 16 hours of straight driving.
Believe it or not, the city I was living in in southern IL was worse. Not only was there countless methheads & fentanyl addicts roaming the streets at all hours (which, yes, Gary has it's own problems with drug addicts, but if you don't go to the ghettos, you won't encounter many outside late night hours), but there was basically nowhere to shop in town, the local government was super corrupt, a significant portion was run-down, and the town is infested with Trumpers.
Sounds like Marion, IL, I think. Also Southern Il, been there once, visiting someone who stayed there for a brief period of time. Europe-to-USA is already a culture shock. Then seeing something like that was even worse. Everything was OK on one side of the road. On the other side it was... uhm...
Hah! I'm driving three hours to see mine. Also in the same state. And once I get there I could drive another 3 hours in just about any direction and still be in the same state. And in some cases even a third set of 3 hours
i met a north american man in my northern swedish university town. he that thought that because sweden was a "small country", taking the bus from stockholm airport to his destination would be a cheap/fast option. the 12+ hours cross country busride was somewhat of a wake up call.
I live in Canada. In the West. A co-worker from abroad was flying in his parents. They wanted to see Niagara falls. He said no problem. Except big problem, he planned the weekend and it is at least a 3 day drive to get there.
This example may be, sure, but a lot of people don't realize that the US is so massive. From NYC to Miami is like driving from Berlin Germany all the way to Valencia Spain.
Yeah, this is definitely taking the piss out of Americans who are super convinced that Europe is so small you can do most things as day trips, like... I dunno, Munich to Milan and back.
The example I gave is over 7 hours per rail - one way. That's a realistic transfer for Euro travellers (i.e. switiching to your next destination) but certainly it's entirely pointless for a day trip with a return leg.
It’s not just a joke it’s satire, of Americans visiting Europe and making the same (albeit less insane and more physically possible) mistake when visiting smaller countries.
get around a little more and you will, indeed, in real life (often around los angeles or possibly san francisco) hear real europeans really say this for real. it's often something like "we're here in los angeles for breakfast, we'll swing by the Grand Canyon, get to disneyland in the afternoon, and then head to san francisco for dinner"
Oh my goodness, you never talked to a European tourist with more ambition than understanding of Geography. When I lived in WA, I had to tell them Disneyland isn't a day trip, it's a 12 hour drive one way, and in WY, that they can't go to Yellowstone and then to the Grand Canyon on one trip.
They vastly VASTLY keep underestimating how big the US is.
Kind of yes and no. They know the US is big, they just don't process how big that big is, they see the size on the map, but don't translate that into actual distance.
zombiejedediah
We kinda know.
This is as tired as the trope about American tourists asking directions for directions to the Eiffel Tower in a city that's not Paris.
duktayp
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dcmirepoix2350
Yeah I’d hire Toonces in a heartbeat
cytherians
johnnycashmustache
My name is John Johnson but everyone here calls me Vicki…
philstrum
Australian here. Had an English housemate who thought they’d catch a bus from the east coast to Uluṟu and back in a day
judyblue
I live just below the "W" in Washington on this map. Last week I had to go to a town just above the "H". It was a 4 hour drive.
mrthewhitee
Yeah but think of how funny it'll be when they ask people in Harrisburg where where the pacific ocean is.
xmaneds
the Pennsylvanians will, without irony, give precise and accurate directions for the Atlantic Ocean. ... when you repeat the word "pacific" they will blink and scratch their heads in surprise and ask you, "WHAT other ocean? what do you mean 'OTHER' ocean ????"
Telemapus
Jumpsuit titties.
keyblader1985
Oh, sweetie..
secretdpp
I don't think they truly grasp most of our states can fit 2-4 European countries inside of them
mynamespaul
It’s satire
judyblue
It's not just Europeans. I had a coworker from Rhode Island who was excited about taking her first trip out west, to Phoenix for a work conference. She told me she booked her flight so she could arrive a day early because she wanted to rent a car and go to Sedona, the Grand Canyon, and Monument Valley.
Jandegrote
I don't think you truly grasp how this is a joke and we all know what google maps is and how to use it.
secretdpp
I've worked in customer service for 23 years. The majority of the public are morons. I would not trust the average person with directions on following a straight line. Let alone trust they can read distance on a map
YouCantSpellSlaughterWithoutLaughter
All we hear from Americans is how big your country is. We get it.
Itsritinfruntuvu
As an American, I would advise taking a route that avoids Florida and Texas.
YouCantSpellSlaughterWithoutLaughter
As a european, I plan on taking a route that avoids the US
Itsritinfruntuvu
Good call. There was a time that I wouldn't say that. This isn't that time.
MmmmmSoup
Had an american back packer do that here in Australia he thought he could drive from Cairns to Melbourne in less then a day
mynamespaul
This is definitely satire if American tourists
MmmmmSoup
Used to work with back packers a lot and some wernt very bright .
Telemapus
This kind of thing happens in the Australian state of Queensland. Fornahs reckon they can drive from Brisbane to Cairns for "the weekend". Note: this 1000 mile trip takes 19 hours of straight driving. You CAN do it in two days but most sane people take three.
ChloeRed
Reminds me of a UK comedian talking about driving in .au. Satnav told them to drive for almost 2 days, then turn left. They missed the turn!
ElectricSlideOrchestra
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kInADress
My vacation plan in 2025 USA as an European:
nope.avi
VaginaPedant
Wife worked in Switzerland as a student in the 90s. Coworkers made fun of "extravagant" Americans flying when they travel inside the USA. She asked them how long it takes to drive across Switzerland the long way: about 4 hours. That might get you across California the short way. It takes 12-14 hours solid driving the long way. And that's only one state. They were blown away.
KingORedLions
When you're using to Europe's high speed rail system, it could feel extravagant tbh. It wouldn't be unusual to take a train 1-2000 miles in the 90s (hell, I casually did around 1000 miles the other month), but in the US your only options are driving or flying.
These days in Europe short-haul flights are fucking cheap, so I can often do those distances for less than $50 return.
VaginaPedant
I hear the short-haul flights killed the overnight trains. That makes me sad. Some of my favorite memories are waking up on the train in a new city.
ThatOtherGirlYouKnow
Conversely Americans think that just because something is 50 miles away that it'll take under an hour. Babygirl, there are a thousand years of history and a whole US state's worth of people between hither and yon.
Fahrenheit536
Anybody is gonna realize it depends on the roads and the area. No one expects to go quickly through an old town, busy area, down twisting roads, etc. (except maybe Trumper-types who avoid thought and reality at all costs).
ThatOtherGirlYouKnow
Oh I've met some Americans (multiple occasions) who legit expected to be able to drive from central London to the north of Scotland in a morning, and one planned to then take the train to Ireland. The train.
clove02us7
This is so true. Europeans have no concept of how big the U.S. is. For that matter, most Americans don't either. Lol.
KingORedLions
It's about the same size as Europe. It's not that difficult to fathom the scale.
Carl99
To be fair there's also an inverse thing with americans coming to Europe who can't grasp how built up with urbanisation much of it is. Also european trains.
ChloeRed
I just confuse amerians with a photo of my car's dashboard showing 70+mpg average.
WebMaka
For the folks that don't know, the continental US is almost as wide as Earth's moon.
Moonthatspellsmoon
Actually much wider, depending on your definition. The moon's equatorial diameter is a little under 3500km, but the longest straight line between any two points in the contiguous US is ~4650km
IHaveAGuyForEverything
Oh no. Oh NOOOOO. A few mistakes, but the first and foremost is GOING TO THR UNITED STATES.
devon292
The second driving through parts of the historically ignorant, previously slave owning, and currently(or not currently depending how you look at it) fascist loving Deep South of the United States
Rodogaar
The actual itinerary would be more like "Arrived at airport, phone confiscated for meme inspection, insensitive images of great leader found, straight back to Europe (or prison)"
jaysjunkymail11
As an American, very surprised this wasn't top comment.
mcglirkymeow
or as we call it in Canada: Magastan. Thank you Kopke613 for that - it's spreading.
chaylar
this
Niagaran
I'm 20 mins from the border and you couldn't pay me right now to cross over into NaziKidnappistan.
leroy666
Me either.
Merulast
They would not even let me in for stuff like calling the orange man an useless fart etc.
nalmeth
Right now, sure. We're having some technical difficulties. Please stand by until we've removed the rot.
Heisanevilgenius
Whoops, we voted for the rot again
SecondSince
These are not new difficulties. They are just more vivisible now.
nalmeth
Indeed it has been there, but not quite this intensity. It's definitely gotten worse.
SecondSince
It really hasn't. It is just more visible and audible. This didn't just appear suddenly but has been growing for decades. All those racists and bigots got was a sign it was now okay to be open about their racism and bigotry.
nalmeth
I disagree. I didn't mean it was sudden either. It's been building over time, but it's definitely increased. Most likely from stupid people gobbling up Russian propaganda disguised as Conservative Americans.
Of course, the build wasn't as visible until now.
Every country has rascism in some form, so the US is not alone in this. I deplore how things are going and really hope we can turn the ship around, jit it's going to take awhile and some cultural changes to try and eradicate.
BrdCdn
It's cute they think this is just a Trump thing and it'll all just magically go away. Oh wait no it's horrifying.
onlyhalfghost
it does also help enlighten as to how they got there in the first place that they still think it was just the golden dipshit.
nalmeth
I definitely don't think it's just Dump. He needs enablers. They're part of the rot as well.
RedCamaro
This is possible if you're driving a supersonic jet
PorneliusHubertII
The ol Taylor swift maneuver
ScienceIsNotALiberalConspiracy
Remember when Ed Bolian had AmEx decline his gas card because he was in TX getting gas faster than a plane could fly from NY/NJ - so it musta been fraud (he was doing the Cannonball Run).
Holinyx05
ha ha Blackbird goes zoom
mineoc
SR-71
LowlevelRebel
*hyper
SpaceCoyote300
FrozenMojo
And meth. Meth helps
Minterfresh
Meth and a Flintstones car
Quebeker
Meth, take a trip without moving and wake up at the hospital the next day
wingedcougar1993598
Last time I tried to drive Meth, I ended up in a bathtub full of squirrels in Tijuana, missing an eye.
BadRedditUsername
I’ve got some Vyvanse and I am only 20 minute off of his route….maybe.
Lol
awkungen42
Speed helps, but doesn't at the same time.
stryhf
SR-71 is overkill. One was clocked going from LA to DC in 1h4m20s on its retirement run so it would end up in the Smithsonian.

TheMightyMollusk
The Lockheed SR-71 Blackbird. An advanced long-range strategic reconnaissance aircraft capable of Mach 3 and an altitude of eighty-five thousand feet.
onecowboytoo
/gallery/different-tale-from-sr-71-blackbird-5bvEvgS
Fn0rd
Yes! Brian Fucking Schul. The most badass MF piloting one of those beautiful beasts! Almost all fotos of the SR71 taken in the timeframe of its active duty so betreten 1966 and 1972 are also taken by Brian Schul. He got an „under the table“ special permit to take pictures of this top secret aircraft back in the day. I recommend his book „Sled driver“. Get the PDF from your usual sources, because printed copies go for a pretty penny these days.
BadRedditUsername
One of my favorite planes of all time.
My doctors receptionist has a wooden version on her desk, and I guffaw at it everytime I come in.
Not autistic, but put a picture of an SR-71 in front of me and I want to tear down my model trains and make a tiny airport.
Canigetbannedagain2
That's awesome, I've heard the stories, but never seen any documents like this, thanks
Fentex
I've been over taken in Greece by Ferraris that might have a chance of doing that.
Telemapus
The Cannonball Run is New York city to Los Angeles. The current record is 25 hours 39 minutes. Their AVERAGE speed was 112mph. You have to use a car with modified gas tank extensions and you need spotters to help you avoid the cops.
Fentex
I wasn't serious - I know the logistics don't work. It's just a joke about how fast sports cars sometimes drive on European motorways (I've been driving at 180kph and left for dead by cars that flash by).
Telemapus
Oh I know, but it gave me an excuse to remind Imgur that the Cannonball Run is still a thing. And that those people are crazy.
lagomorpha
I'm cackling. I had to rent a car to drive from Florida to New Jersey and back earlier this month when all the flights got cancelled. Bus/train tickets were all gone at that point and my hubby needed to be home for work. It took me from Sunday at noon til Tuesday evening midnight, and that's with minimal sleep and trading driving shifts to get back in time for work. 1-2 hour drive to NYC my rinestone studded patootie.
Cptqrk73
Like Americans aren't just as bad. Had a senior couple arrive in Prince George (14h drive from WA) wondering why they hadn't reached Alaska (another 20h drive) yet. SMH
bloxxing
my vacation plan skips 'merka completely. as have my previous 50yrs of vacation plans.
Exyr
I10 through Texas is the most boring drive ever. At least the speed limit is 80+
SometimesOthertimesAnytime
Truth.
BarracksLawyerESQ
I PCS'd from Fort Sam to Irwin, back to Fort Sam, and then to Rucker.
I hate the 10
I hate the 10 with every ounce of my soul, black though it is....
Hyzenthlay021
It's pretty sweet if you're a truck driver though.
BarracksLawyerESQ
That's like being the best treated worker in the death camp.
CyberHexx
I20 from Weatherford to El Paso nothing but desert, cotton, and windmills.
RacecarIsRacecarBackwards
I love how this has turned into a competition of who has the longest, most boring highways.
mthrndr01
80 through Nevada is preeeeeeetty bad.
AWarningToOthers
I have done that drive several time when traveling from FT. Hood to my parents place in San Diego. You always knew when you left Texas because you stop seeing dead animals on the side of the road.
ElectricSlideOrchestra
Said the person who never drove I40 through Oklahoma, I70 through Kansas, I80 through Iowa and Nebraska.
mastertmo
I believe I've driven parts of all of them at some point or other. Perks of living in Missouri and Texas
ElectricSlideOrchestra
70 in Missouri isn't bad. Get out in western Kansas on 70.
mastertmo
I think I've done it once, long ago
silvimancer
I did I10 through TX and thought that was bad until I did I70 through Kansas. The absolute worst.
ElectricSlideOrchestra
I70 is fucking atrocious. 80 is even worse through Iowa and Nebraska, if you can believe it. Avoid if you can.
RetrogradeLlama
I drove cross country solo three times. Testify!
amoeba15
I-70 through Kansas is torture
Imissmylurk
Went from Cali to Toronto through Omaha, fun drive in a mustang, nothing after the mountains was worth looking at.
Hyzenthlay021
The sweet spot for truck drivers
RabidNutria
I’ve driven all three and hated I10 the worst. You’re in Texas for nearly 900 miles. That is too long to be in a shitty state. On 70 and 80 you rotate through different shitty states.
leroy666
Or across the big empty (Calgary to Winnipeg). Fortunately, you can sleep as there are no curves in the road.
OhIfIMust
I knew a trucker who used the drive through Nebraska to teach himself the bagpipes (just the practice chanter, though, not the full setup!)
badgerZ505
Horrible drive. It was a nightmare.
Seradhe
I-10 in general*
xj4low
Last time I drove through west texas, the only thing to see was grain silos and video porn stores. Can hit search on the FM radio and watch as it loops all the way around the band without landing on a station. Now I hear there are lots of wind turbines.
somnif
Plenty of religious zealotry on the AM dial I bet?
xj4low
Too much. It's what all the ranchers put there listen too and that's why those counties vote red.
chansuke
There are some parts of the world where satellite radio is actually worth it. Like between Lubbock and El paso.
RetrogradeLlama
I drove across Texas the long way on 10,
Fun fact: U-haul buys trailer tires are only rated for 65 mph.
Exyr
Oh that would have been good to know when I drove across Texas with one of their trailers.
RetrogradeLlama
Yeah... I was halfway across the state (having driven half of AZ and through NM before that at 80 mph when I noticed the decals on the trailer "Not over 65 mph". Knowing a bit about tires, I decided to read the labels - they are rated 65mph. Cheap ba$tards at U-Haul.
76000BatteryLlamas
Sounds like a u-haul problem
JokenPo0079
I'd like to introduce you to the Afsluitdijk, the dam and causeway that closes off the Zuiderzee in the Netherlands (turning it into the IJsselmeer). 20 miles of completely straight driving with just water to see. Simultaneously an incredibly beautiful and horribly boring drive.
Whatdoyousaytoanicecupoftea
Mummmm i need to wee
Exyr
That would terrify me. I dont think id have time to be bored.
Isorikk
Texas is like 900 miles of that but just prairie
Monkeyflyers
Sorry 20 miles ain't shit.
Hyzenthlay021
Giggle, 20 miles? I might not even notice it was there.
ATLandNerdy
Here is me driving over our version, the Lake Pontchartrain Causeway https://youtu.be/8P8KGbk7DTA
somnif
Ok, now, make that about 500 miles with nothing but flat plains around you.
ATLandNerdy
LOL. Okay, first off, we got one of those. Only no land, pure bridge for 24 miles. Second, Salt Lake city to Cheyenne is 440 Miles of straight flat sparse land so desolate they have signs warning about the last gas station for XXX miles because if you're not topped off you won't make it to the next gas stattion and there is no cell service to call someone to bring you gas. Dallas to Pecos is about the same miles and so straight and flat they put bends in the road every now and then just to keep
ATLandNerdy
you from tying the steering wheel down and taking a nap.
ChickenChickenBurningBright
Even Americans do this. My FIL from North Carolina visited us in Houston and wanted to take a day to see Big Bend State Park and the mountains. Yeah, that's a no dad.
ImHereToGetDownvotes
Yep. I had family visit from out west to Philadelphia. They thought they could take a trip up to the Statue of Liberty, come back, go into Philly and see a lot of sights, then head down to Washington DC and see things there too. Like sure, it's TECHNICALLY doable, but you're going to basically be driving by everything, missing a hell of a lot, and not enjoying anything.
Copperbrat
Exactly. I have friends back east that couldn't fathom the wide open of the west until they witnessed it.
litgeek306
I thought I understood how big the US west is, but I didn't fully comprehend it until my train reached the Badlands in ND. I'd never been able to see that far over land without being on top of a mountain, and had never even thought any landscape could be that barren without being covered in water
DeadnCold
I'd love to see a European actually try this and realize somewhere around South Carolina that their flight home was about to take off.
WindowStreetJournal
Since we know that we couldn't even do that in Europe, and we alao knpw that US is larger, no Europeans would make this mistake, it's a " joke" made by 'muricans.
pookieeatworld
My buddy's ex was from Okinawa and her family came to visit and they wanted to see all the touristy stuff like the White House and Mount Rushmore and he's like "That's a whole separate vacation we need to plan." They had no idea that those things were 10 and 15 hour drives from Southern Michigan. They also got frustrated that the drive from O'Hare to his house took 3 hours.
starkraven13
And all of a sudden they're illegal.
Perkunas687
The USA is so big and road-tripping Americans so inured to it that, after driving from NYC to St. Louis to see a solar eclipse, my friends and I decided to day trip it to Hopkinsville, KY to get out from under cloud cover. No biggie. Just four hours there and four hours back to St. Louis. And then my wife and I did it again for the most recent eclipse, from Ogdensburg, NY to Newport, VT and back, 4+ hours each way (due to traffic).
Ain't nothin' but a thang.
Raikupath
We're too educated for that to happen. That's a you thing.
anoldiebutagoodie
This happens all the time in Australia. Dutch people landing in Darwin, in the far north, thinking they can drive down south to Melbourne in a couple of days. We're talking NY to LA kind of distance there
ByThePowerOfSCIENCE
moon for scale
ansiichan
i think "europeans don't realize how big is usa" is mostly usa circlejerk, and not gonna happen though, whenever i talk with anyone about usa as holiday destination it usually ends up with "oh that would be cool but i would have to take around month off for it to be really worth it"
LutraLazuli
My uncle from Europe wanted to visit Mt. Rainier, had to explain that the trip to there would take a couple hours, one way.
mercyPandaRunner
I mean, "I want to go see xyz that's not in this very area" quickly takes a couple hours one way in Europe. Europe is small-er, not small.

If you visited me and told me you wanted to see any mountain, that's 3 h 30 m one way, the Brandenburger Tor, that's 4-5 hours. If they wanted to see the Alps, 9 h. That's just inside little Germany with good traffic.
LutraLazuli
Fair
YouCantSpellSlaughterWithoutLaughter
Yeah, nah. Most Europeans would at least do the bare minimum research first.
ChazzK
I've known more than one. The guy who was scheduled at trade shows on opposite coasts 1 day apart looked particularly harrowed when he was told the truth.
Doismellbacon
We were somewhere around Charleston, when the realization we were going to miss it flight took hold https://media4.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPWE1NzM3M2U1bDZpdXd5MXllN2E4OXEwb2p6eWpsNWo5NWI0OXJ2c3h4OTF2amdlMiZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/Wq7Cr4Yr2XovS/200w.webp
UneventfulLover
Once, in Trondheim, Norway, I was approached by an American in a rental car asking for directions to North Cape (Duh, it's to the north from there...). Apparently, a cruise ship was in town. Trondheim to North cape is 1,000 miles and takes 21 hours by car, one way. To this day I wonder whether he was able to catch the boat back...
localsurfer
Norway is waaay bigger than it looks on a map though. I wanted to drive from Oslo to Tromso and the hire car lady laughed and told me to fly.
galfisium
It's also that there aren't that many roads but a lot of water to be crossed.
localsurfer
True, I distinctly remember looking across about 150m of water, looking at the map, and realising it was about a 200km drive to get to the other side...
DeadnCold
Yeah, it really does go both ways. North Americans hear Europeans talk about driving or taking a train two or three countries away and joke that if they drove that long they would still be in their state and get the impression that every country in Europe is tiny.
UneventfulLover
Admittedly, we do have a particularly long and very coastal country compared to overall size and population, but I also suspect that they grossly overestimated the average speed (38 mph) on our roads. The blue X'es mark the approximate positions of the places in question on this comparison, I don't know if this would be considered a two-day trip in the U.S.
Isaiah12vs2
You could 100% drive that in two days in America, HOWEVER our average speed is 55-75 mph.
UneventfulLover
I tried, without being too nosy, to ascertain whether the tourist actually knew the distance or had time whithin the schedule of the cruise ship to do the trip, but he was quite adamant he could do it.
CarInAVet
With our speed limits, that's 11-12 hours, one way, not counting stops.
DeadnCold
I looked at the distances on google when I first read your post and Google maps said the Norway trip would take about 21 hours like you said. For the NYC to Miami trip which is 1288 miles it said it would only take about 18 hours. Interstate highways in America are fast moving and uninterrupted unless you hit rush hour traffic jams around large cities. Think Autobahn but with a 60-70 mph speed limit.
UneventfulLover
I am even suspicious of the 38 mph average that our road database lists today. So many things that can and will happen here. And this was around year 2000 so there were more ferries, sharp curves that slow down the fish trucks and fewer tunnels back then. And not a single bit of 4-lane road on that stretch. I would recommend 4 days for the round trip.
ATLandNerdy
Had a UK friend of the family fly over, Heathrow, JFK, ATL. They stayed with my mom in Atlanta. I was in my 20s and at the time living in Jasper, GA, pretty country place. I went and got their teen kid, took him to my place. When we got there, a 44 mile drive, he asked if we were back in New York. They really just can't grasp the difference in scale. Also, took him to hooters and he told everyone I took him to a strip bar. Did some target practice too, half way through he asked me
ATLandNerdy
how illegal this was, and I laughed. Like, okay, technically we're not supposed to be on the back porch, but the only guy that could see us was my next-door neighbor, who was retired USMC, and I've seen him take a deer from inside his double wide, he ain't calling it in. Anyone would just be reporting gun fire, which would get the response from the 911 operator of "and?"
KingORedLions
Europe and the US is a similar size. Scale probably isn't the issue, not knowing the geography probably is.
If you're in Hamburg in Germany, you can take one road almost the whole way down to the Alps - it still takes around nine hours to drive it if you're averaging around 60 miles an hour. I don't expect many people in the US to know that.
chaoticbear1
Yes but that is comparing an entire continent to one country. Texas alone is larger than a lot of European countries.
KingORedLions
It's comparing to areas of similar size. The USA is a federation of 50 states with an area of 9.8M square kilometers. Europe is an area of 10.1M square kilometers containing 44-50 states (depending on who you ask).
Texas and Ukraine are of comparable size, and there are a number of states not much smaller than Texas within Europe.
chaoticbear1
I don't think we're arguing about any of those definitions? The image the OP is obviously exaggerated but my online experience with Europeans is that they do underestimate how big the US is.
There's a saying about it somewhere, something like "Americans think 100 years is a long time, Europeans think 100 miles is a long drive", I can't remember the exact wording.
ATLandNerdy
I think the problem is these people aren't mentally accustomed to thinking "home" is "Europe", they're thinking home is " Western Europe" and scaling to that size, not the whole of Europe size. But IDK, I'm just an American.
Sorcatarius
I think part of the difference is Europe has a fantastic train system for getting anywhere of a significant drive, which has an advantage of both being faster speed, no traffic, and you can get up, stretch your legs, etc so the trip is more comfortable. In the same amount of time you'll get further and be more comfortable the entire time.
KingORedLions
Western Europe does have excellent trains - depending on the route you can travel 1000 miles in around 6 hours; in the US that would often be a long drive, or taking a flight.
Europe also has a pretty good network of cheap flights; I can often get return flights to other major cities for $50 or less.
Sensiblyinteresting
As someone who was living in south Florida for a long time. It takes 11 hours to leave Florida which is crazy
CJAW
Even worse if you're in the Keys; it takes over three hours to get from Key West to Miami
Sensiblyinteresting
Yeah, if you are driving key West to Alabama it's like 16 hours lol
CJAW
My wife and I dated long distance in college. I used to routinely drive from Sarasota to Tuscaloosa. Had to make sure I was staying for at least 5 days to make the nearly day total of driving worth it
Kittynomnoms
Yeah I flew into Florida to help a sibling escape it. I arrived at around 7 AM and we spent a bit of time picking up our uhaul and 2-3 hours dicking around, but... The fact is we didn't actually cross state lines until shortly before midnight. I remember, because it was NYE.
Green11ndys
Yeah I drove down to Florida from PA a while ago, took 18 hours and most of that was just in Florida. We didn't even make it half way down the peninsula.
32FGWolfhound
Lol! This summer we drove from the Netherlands through Germany and Austria to northern Italy in 17 hours (with several stops in 2 days).
I’ve been in Hawaii (Oahu) once, but never visited the mainland US. I just can’t imagine how long the distances must be reading this…
INeedMoreGifMeMoreJustOneMore
Yes, from what I understand, Florida IS crazy.
Equivocator
Brisbane to Cooktown is a nice ~22 hour drive. And QLD isn't even the biggest state.
mercyPandaRunner
That's terrifying, as it means you have to spend at least 11 hours in Florida.
ImAWeirdMom
I'm in Florida right now for a family trip. It took 18 hours to get here. I can't wait for the 18 hours home (genuinely)
OldnFatBobba
Stay strong. Stay hydrated. Stay indoors.
cytherians
And turn off FOX News wherever it plays. 😏
Mack1986
Indoors are where the family is. Outdoors is other Floridians. Its lose lose
Madara1389
Grew up in Gary IN, moved to southern IL (on the border to Kentucky) before the lockdown, have since moved to middle Florida; yeah the distances are insane. From Lake Michigan to Kentucky is about 6 hours... It took 9 hours to get to Florida from there and another 6 hours after arriving in Florida to reach where I am now. To get back to Gary would be over 16 hours of straight driving.
LariCheltsy
Well, hey, neighbor!
Madara1389
congrationyoudoneit
And the worst part about driving those 16 hours? Arriving in Gary
Letmesleeplife7
But you can tell without looking just by the smell
Madara1389
Believe it or not, the city I was living in in southern IL was worse. Not only was there countless methheads & fentanyl addicts roaming the streets at all hours (which, yes, Gary has it's own problems with drug addicts, but if you don't go to the ghettos, you won't encounter many outside late night hours), but there was basically nowhere to shop in town, the local government was super corrupt, a significant portion was run-down, and the town is infested with Trumpers.
WarlockSniper
Sounds like Marion, IL, I think.
Also Southern Il, been there once, visiting someone who stayed there for a brief period of time.
Europe-to-USA is already a culture shock.
Then seeing something like that was even worse. Everything was OK on one side of the road.
On the other side it was... uhm...
Nanntuckett
I’m driving an hour to see my family in the same state just a few counties away.
Moonthatspellsmoon
Hah! I'm driving three hours to see mine. Also in the same state. And once I get there I could drive another 3 hours in just about any direction and still be in the same state. And in some cases even a third set of 3 hours
crcinau
I used to drive 1h 15m each way just to get to work....
Vebrandsson
Are you driving a super sonic jet?
VinnyKneecaps
One hour drive from JFK/LaGuardia.. well, you'll probably make it to Jersey.
alexpatt665
is new york traffic a joke to you?!
SixSixxtySix
JFK. LaGuardia doesn’t have customs.
Idontneedrealfacts
They say that 100 miles is considered a long distance in Europe, and that 100 years is considered a long time in the United States.
LeftRightLeftRightLeftRightAboutTurn
Which is bollocks. England maybe, but France, Germany, Spain, Sweden etc? 100 miles is not considered a long distance at all.
Idontneedrealfacts
would you commute 100 miles to work every day?
LeftRightLeftRightLeftRightAboutTurn
There are people in Lyon who commute to Paris, 300 miles away, TGV takes two hours to get there.
fruust
i met a north american man in my northern swedish university town. he that thought that because sweden was a "small country", taking the bus from stockholm airport to his destination would be a cheap/fast option.
the 12+ hours cross country busride was somewhat of a wake up call.
SomeDetroitGuy
Weird how many people here don't realize that this is a joke.
SkunkMom
Poe's Law
somebackup
I live in Canada. In the West. A co-worker from abroad was flying in his parents. They wanted to see Niagara falls. He said no problem. Except big problem, he planned the weekend and it is at least a 3 day drive to get there.
rshini
This map is, but I actually (in WA state) had to tell several tourists that going to Disneyland and back isn't a day trip
Irinsis
Yeah, this is definitely something inspired by r/europetravel
GenericValue
Yeah, no one writes the number of hours the drive will take on the map. That'd just be silly
ImHereToGetDownvotes
This example may be, sure, but a lot of people don't realize that the US is so massive. From NYC to Miami is like driving from Berlin Germany all the way to Valencia Spain.
DrunkGermanGuy
Yeah, this is definitely taking the piss out of Americans who are super convinced that Europe is so small you can do most things as day trips, like... I dunno, Munich to Milan and back.
davebarton315101
With high speed rail you can do a lot more.
DrunkGermanGuy
The example I gave is over 7 hours per rail - one way. That's a realistic transfer for Euro travellers (i.e. switiching to your next destination) but certainly it's entirely pointless for a day trip with a return leg.
mynamespaul
It’s not just a joke it’s satire, of Americans visiting Europe and making the same (albeit less insane and more physically possible) mistake when visiting smaller countries.
xmaneds
get around a little more and you will, indeed, in real life (often around los angeles or possibly san francisco) hear real europeans really say this for real. it's often something like "we're here in los angeles for breakfast, we'll swing by the Grand Canyon, get to disneyland in the afternoon, and then head to san francisco for dinner"
ataradov
Sure, but this specific map originates in one of the pointless TravelCircleJerk or similar subreddits.
Twrecks123
I worked at a hotel near a tourist destination that was big with Europeans. Heard this exact thing so many times.
JondorCallsForAid
Do people not google things before they travel? The idea of going to a foreign country without researching things ahead of time is mindboggling to me.
GussDeBlod
You know this plan was made by an american because an european would most likely go to the grand canyon and avoid miami and las Vegas.
somethingnotyettaken
Also they're probably have actually used Google maps for the route planning, rather than drawing on a screenshot of a map with a crayon.
jekath
If a European made this, it would go to Greece.
GussDeBlod
Greece is a cool and cheap country to visit!
Velemu
Also, only an American would call one day trip a "vacation". Aand assume people have as poor knowledge of general geography as they do. :p
GussDeBlod
True it's at least a 2 hours drive from ny to miami! 😛
Goblonicfart
I feel like its pretty difficult to be this stupid as an european. Not sure in other countries but at least in mine this was taught pretty early on
mynamespaul
This is satire if American tourists visiting Europe
rshini
Oh my goodness, you never talked to a European tourist with more ambition than understanding of Geography. When I lived in WA, I had to tell them Disneyland isn't a day trip, it's a 12 hour drive one way, and in WY, that they can't go to Yellowstone and then to the Grand Canyon on one trip.
They vastly VASTLY keep underestimating how big the US is.
thedeg
Morelike they dont know exactly where all those things are, we all know 'Merica is huge
rshini
Kind of yes and no. They know the US is big, they just don't process how big that big is, they see the size on the map, but don't translate that into actual distance.
thedeg
Thats just being human.
Dyamonde
And while europe may be small, it's not THAT small
thedeg
Europe is larger than the US.