Oct 15, 2021 3:33 PM
DumpsterKoala
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It is a symbiotic relationship. We are Venom.
mooglewulf
I can relate to that. I never liked speaking to large groups of people, but always handed my best work.
AmandaCANZED
Then you didn’t do most of the work. It takes a lot to stand up in front of peers and speak to something. Bonus points if you’re funny and
Can keep the audience engaged in the topic.
VanZaiden
literally how we did projects in hs in my friend group, the 2 introvers did the research, 1 extrovert did the presentation
fnordy
You, uh, don't do the presentation in the buff, do you? You know that's not why they call it "the presentation," right?
KiwiGameDev
Well the slides are kinda dull so I wanna give em something to laugh at!
Eldibs
That's a good team, playing to its member's strengths.
stupidfstick
Thank you DumpsterKoala
I too was always the presenter, we provided a valid service
Erdanya
This is basically why you have specialists and salespeople. Just... please don't let the sales guy try to do actual customer >support<.
IAintAfraidONoGhost
It's all right if everyone gets the credit for their part.
Athenawins
Introvert are the best people
Extroverts are more likely to let their ideals be known. Introverts oft leave themselves with fewer opportunities to share. Hard to compare
MoonyT
Reminds me of my psych partner. I hate writing papers. He hated gathering info. Just gave him a big list of research notes, and he turned it
it into paper form. We both were like, "how could you like doing the hard part of the paper?". i had him in like 3 classes, it was awesome!
squreky
I will gladly do 100% of the project as long as someone else presents it
iCHACHA
I’m glad there are people like you. I LOVE presenting and public speaking but feel guilty for not giving others an equal chance to talk.
PhailRaptor
...is that a statue of Toph?
drenix
Thats the "Attack Titan" from, you wouldn't guess, Attack on Titan
stja
That's good work division.
relsky
I'm an introvert who's more than happy to give a presentation. If I'm knowledgeable and can prepare I much prefer to be the one speaking /1
instead on relying on someone who hasn't done any of the work. Now if you want to SOCIALIZE after the pres... GTFOutta here with that stuff.
MulattoGelato
I'm the extrovert in this situation and I appreciate massively the hard work all you introverts have put into projects. You're diamonds.
NKato
My question for @op: did the extrovert understand the relationship?
I'm the extrovert in this relationship. Yes, I very much understand the value of the introverts involved.
Congratulations. You're a unicorn!
yoshtan4
Most of my group projects I did most of the work and all the presenting, I am an introvert. I don't work well with a team at all now.
CaptainKipup
Me, doing both in college :/
darganf
I actually used to be brought in on group projects to present and handle the Q&A. Usually worked too but one group was like, “no, go sleep”
My university was crazy competitive and they thought having me fully rested and relaxed would help us get the top mark ? we did to be fair
Electromethius
For me the issue is structural. I’m good at research and talking, but when trying to format a presentation I overstuff it till it looks bad.
So I need someone methodical to make the aspects of the project I can’t smooth over with my bluff and diplomacy skill look acceptable
spoonassassin
I'm a massive introvert. But don't mind public speaking. Its small talk with strangers I can't do.
ThomasThundersword
This!! i hate small talk but if i need to present i can, the QA after tho......
pareidoliaperson
I'm always the third wheel w/ friends bwing so inteoverted. When a second went peeing, they start the convo and I tell them oh where's 1/2
[name]? Is he gone? Where's he gone? To pee? Is he gone to pee? Like fuck off m8 I'm not your time filler.2/2
Soufange
THIS. I loved acting in school and got good parts, and going into big crowds, but auditions in tiny rooms scared the fuck outta me.
PrecogFrogOnALog
I have a crowd threshold. A few people or a massive crowd are ok, but when it's around 20-30, it sucks. Of course that's class size :(
Artebudz
Very much like that myself. Used to play clarinet. Crowd of 800? Fine. But struggled playing at care homes and small events.
I think it's because larger crowds are just a sea of people. It's not intimate enough that i have to focus on anyone.
LeutAldoRaine
Me too. I lead so many meetings with no fucking clue until 5 mins before. The team is so grateful though.
But here's a free tip for the extroverts like myself: give credit to those that did the work. Example: I ran an hour long call with 150+ 1/
People last week. I was far too busy to create the deck and the woman who did was afraid to present. I even said to her, "you did all 2/
This work, you should get to present and take credit." She was frozen though. So I presented, but at the top of the call, I asked her to 3/
Run the deck so I could talk through and then I said "we're co-presenting today because I'm like the kid in college group project who did 4/
None of the work but shows up to collect the grade." People chuckled, but she thanked me profusely afterwards. Everyone has their 5/
PhenTsoksar
I'm glad i'm different then. I do the work, I get the glory. One grad class I had, the prof literally flipped out that the class was (1/
going thru the motions, so the fucker switched the class script on everyone and basically turned the 2nd half of the semester into what (2/
could be called a "mini TED symposium" with all these grad students presenting for a minimum of 60 minutes each before a 15-30 minute (3/
Q&A. I had a fucking blast and went over on time. Others did not share my enthusiasm.
seenweirdthings
I was once on a group project with a guy that did no work and showed up to none of the meetings. So we all agreed to make him do the >
wjodendor
I had a final presentation in college and the prof. Said "you already did yours right?" The whole class looked at me and I said yes. 1
He said "oh that's right". I hadn't actually done it. He gave me 100% (and no one ratted me out)
DeityOfSnuggles
Ape Together Strong
> presentation, thinking he'd embarrass himself because it was literally his first time seeing the project. But that fucker bullshitted >
> his way through the presentation like a pro and we all got an A on the project so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯.
tumantorak
He was the bard.
YesmynameisGreg
Did we go to highschool together? I always used to find the socially anxious kids where report/presentation was a fair division of labor.
Hell, I married an engineer. The division of labor in my house is: I deal with anything involving other people. She does non social stuff.
hashomerachianochi
If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullshit.
ICanadianSoHard
Why dazzle when you can use blind and have lovely alliteration the whole way through
helagos
I see upper-middle management in his future.
ruferto
i once made a powerpoint presentation and the 3rd slide was literally a white dot on a black screen. i spent 5 minutes on that slide.
BeerandCats
We all have different talents
flyingmonsters
Yeah same situation, but then the guy just skipped that day of school. Needless to say he failed the class since it was 32%
tred1975
Win Win
Actionboi
Can't hate. It's a skill that most people don't have. Mix it with a hard work ethic and you have yourself a unicorn.
ghosthogger
Vesane
Haha I was hoping someone would come along with the upgrade
StorytellingSalem
Legit. Charisma and confidence. Its not a joke. If you can fake it. If you can deploy it. Its helpful. Its really really helpful.
TheReelOldGreg
I was the presenter guy in most scenarios. But yeah...confidence and humility goes a long way to being very likable. Admit when you mess up.
mt77932
Is he in politics now?
Last I heard he was working for a big consulting firm.
comacomacomacomachameleon
close enough
cadburyegg
Fucker put all his points into charisma.
coffinbirth
As someone who recently discovered LITRPG novels on audible this made me LOL
PikaChunin
Wait, is this like isekai manga but in book format?
Nimitz007
Could you toss me a few LITRPG novel recommendations? Always looking for new stuff to read. =)
Rogahar
We made a deal with one of our group on a college project. Said dude was on his sandwich year so he was working while at school, and >
TheArrestingAbhorrentArrantAbominableAlliterator
Sandwich year is clearly not what I thought it meant
lol no, sorry - though I'd be surprised if culinary science students didn't make the joke a lot.
> the company he was working at during said year was in a crunch period so he was pressed for time. We all agreed with him that we'd take >
> the lions' share of the work off his shoulders if he contributed where he could and lead the presentation. He nailed it, and we all got >
mooglewulf
I can relate to that. I never liked speaking to large groups of people, but always handed my best work.
AmandaCANZED
Then you didn’t do most of the work. It takes a lot to stand up in front of peers and speak to something. Bonus points if you’re funny and
AmandaCANZED
Can keep the audience engaged in the topic.
VanZaiden
literally how we did projects in hs in my friend group, the 2 introvers did the research, 1 extrovert did the presentation
fnordy
You, uh, don't do the presentation in the buff, do you? You know that's not why they call it "the presentation," right?
KiwiGameDev
Well the slides are kinda dull so I wanna give em something to laugh at!
Eldibs
That's a good team, playing to its member's strengths.
stupidfstick
Thank you DumpsterKoala
DumpsterKoala
KiwiGameDev
I too was always the presenter, we provided a valid service
Erdanya
This is basically why you have specialists and salespeople. Just... please don't let the sales guy try to do actual customer >support<.
IAintAfraidONoGhost
It's all right if everyone gets the credit for their part.
Athenawins
Introvert are the best people
KiwiGameDev
Extroverts are more likely to let their ideals be known. Introverts oft leave themselves with fewer opportunities to share. Hard to compare
MoonyT
Reminds me of my psych partner. I hate writing papers. He hated gathering info. Just gave him a big list of research notes, and he turned it
MoonyT
it into paper form. We both were like, "how could you like doing the hard part of the paper?". i had him in like 3 classes, it was awesome!
squreky
I will gladly do 100% of the project as long as someone else presents it
iCHACHA
I’m glad there are people like you. I LOVE presenting and public speaking but feel guilty for not giving others an equal chance to talk.
PhailRaptor
...is that a statue of Toph?
drenix
Thats the "Attack Titan" from, you wouldn't guess, Attack on Titan
stja
That's good work division.
relsky
I'm an introvert who's more than happy to give a presentation. If I'm knowledgeable and can prepare I much prefer to be the one speaking /1
relsky
instead on relying on someone who hasn't done any of the work. Now if you want to SOCIALIZE after the pres... GTFOutta here with that stuff.
MulattoGelato
I'm the extrovert in this situation and I appreciate massively the hard work all you introverts have put into projects. You're diamonds.
NKato
My question for @op: did the extrovert understand the relationship?
DumpsterKoala
I'm the extrovert in this relationship. Yes, I very much understand the value of the introverts involved.
NKato
Congratulations. You're a unicorn!
yoshtan4
Most of my group projects I did most of the work and all the presenting, I am an introvert. I don't work well with a team at all now.
CaptainKipup
Me, doing both in college :/
darganf
I actually used to be brought in on group projects to present and handle the Q&A. Usually worked too but one group was like, “no, go sleep”
darganf
My university was crazy competitive and they thought having me fully rested and relaxed would help us get the top mark ? we did to be fair
Electromethius
For me the issue is structural. I’m good at research and talking, but when trying to format a presentation I overstuff it till it looks bad.
Electromethius
So I need someone methodical to make the aspects of the project I can’t smooth over with my bluff and diplomacy skill look acceptable
spoonassassin
I'm a massive introvert. But don't mind public speaking. Its small talk with strangers I can't do.
ThomasThundersword
This!! i hate small talk but if i need to present i can, the QA after tho......
pareidoliaperson
I'm always the third wheel w/ friends bwing so inteoverted. When a second went peeing, they start the convo and I tell them oh where's 1/2
pareidoliaperson
[name]? Is he gone? Where's he gone? To pee? Is he gone to pee? Like fuck off m8 I'm not your time filler.2/2
Soufange
THIS. I loved acting in school and got good parts, and going into big crowds, but auditions in tiny rooms scared the fuck outta me.
PrecogFrogOnALog
I have a crowd threshold. A few people or a massive crowd are ok, but when it's around 20-30, it sucks. Of course that's class size :(
Artebudz
Very much like that myself. Used to play clarinet. Crowd of 800? Fine. But struggled playing at care homes and small events.
PrecogFrogOnALog
I think it's because larger crowds are just a sea of people. It's not intimate enough that i have to focus on anyone.
LeutAldoRaine
Me too. I lead so many meetings with no fucking clue until 5 mins before. The team is so grateful though.
LeutAldoRaine
But here's a free tip for the extroverts like myself: give credit to those that did the work. Example: I ran an hour long call with 150+ 1/
LeutAldoRaine
People last week. I was far too busy to create the deck and the woman who did was afraid to present. I even said to her, "you did all 2/
LeutAldoRaine
This work, you should get to present and take credit." She was frozen though. So I presented, but at the top of the call, I asked her to 3/
LeutAldoRaine
Run the deck so I could talk through and then I said "we're co-presenting today because I'm like the kid in college group project who did 4/
LeutAldoRaine
None of the work but shows up to collect the grade." People chuckled, but she thanked me profusely afterwards. Everyone has their 5/
PhenTsoksar
I'm glad i'm different then. I do the work, I get the glory. One grad class I had, the prof literally flipped out that the class was (1/
PhenTsoksar
going thru the motions, so the fucker switched the class script on everyone and basically turned the 2nd half of the semester into what (2/
PhenTsoksar
could be called a "mini TED symposium" with all these grad students presenting for a minimum of 60 minutes each before a 15-30 minute (3/
PhenTsoksar
Q&A. I had a fucking blast and went over on time. Others did not share my enthusiasm.
seenweirdthings
I was once on a group project with a guy that did no work and showed up to none of the meetings. So we all agreed to make him do the >
wjodendor
I had a final presentation in college and the prof. Said "you already did yours right?" The whole class looked at me and I said yes. 1
wjodendor
He said "oh that's right". I hadn't actually done it. He gave me 100% (and no one ratted me out)
DeityOfSnuggles
Ape Together Strong
seenweirdthings
> presentation, thinking he'd embarrass himself because it was literally his first time seeing the project. But that fucker bullshitted >
seenweirdthings
> his way through the presentation like a pro and we all got an A on the project so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯.
tumantorak
He was the bard.
YesmynameisGreg
Did we go to highschool together? I always used to find the socially anxious kids where report/presentation was a fair division of labor.
YesmynameisGreg
Hell, I married an engineer. The division of labor in my house is: I deal with anything involving other people. She does non social stuff.
hashomerachianochi
If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullshit.
ICanadianSoHard
Why dazzle when you can use blind and have lovely alliteration the whole way through
helagos
I see upper-middle management in his future.
ruferto
i once made a powerpoint presentation and the 3rd slide was literally a white dot on a black screen. i spent 5 minutes on that slide.
BeerandCats
We all have different talents
flyingmonsters
Yeah same situation, but then the guy just skipped that day of school. Needless to say he failed the class since it was 32%
tred1975
Win Win
Actionboi
Can't hate. It's a skill that most people don't have. Mix it with a hard work ethic and you have yourself a unicorn.
seenweirdthings
ghosthogger
Vesane
Haha I was hoping someone would come along with the upgrade
StorytellingSalem
Legit. Charisma and confidence. Its not a joke. If you can fake it. If you can deploy it. Its helpful. Its really really helpful.
TheReelOldGreg
I was the presenter guy in most scenarios. But yeah...confidence and humility goes a long way to being very likable. Admit when you mess up.
mt77932
Is he in politics now?
seenweirdthings
Last I heard he was working for a big consulting firm.
comacomacomacomachameleon
close enough
cadburyegg
Fucker put all his points into charisma.
coffinbirth
As someone who recently discovered LITRPG novels on audible this made me LOL
PikaChunin
Wait, is this like isekai manga but in book format?
Nimitz007
Could you toss me a few LITRPG novel recommendations? Always looking for new stuff to read. =)
Rogahar
We made a deal with one of our group on a college project. Said dude was on his sandwich year so he was working while at school, and >
TheArrestingAbhorrentArrantAbominableAlliterator
Sandwich year is clearly not what I thought it meant
Rogahar
lol no, sorry - though I'd be surprised if culinary science students didn't make the joke a lot.
Rogahar
> the company he was working at during said year was in a crunch period so he was pressed for time. We all agreed with him that we'd take >
Rogahar
> the lions' share of the work off his shoulders if he contributed where he could and lead the presentation. He nailed it, and we all got >