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My grandmother and her sister - they survived Auschwitz together. May we never forget.
Apr 24, 2017 1:00 AM
Charmillionaire
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My grandmother and her sister - they survived Auschwitz together. May we never forget.
Daquuan
Thanks for sharing. You must be extremely proud of where you come from.
grimmia
I went through your posts to find the original with the story. Thanks for sharing OP. Your grandma and her sisters are amazing.
gestaltist
Half of my family were in camps. Some in Auschwitz. And we're not even Jewish. Terrible times.
Warumliegthiereigentlichstrohrum
I'm german we had the chance to speek to a surviver, when we where in school. We had to promide her one thing, and one thing only.
Warumliegthiereigentlichstrohrum
Never forget.
invisablerisable
I can't even imagine the nightmares they have. At least they have someone who understands.
blissfullife
How could anyone possibly downvote this??!! How??! I'm appalled by the downvotes, but beyond inspired by your family.
mkingi
Probably grumpy spoil sports who think OP is lying and used a random photo for fake internet points. I don't think OP is lying though.
DetectiveSherlockHolmes
Whenever I see stuff like this, it makes me realise that this stuff didn't happen that long ago.
nativeamerican1
SaraFourImgur
Still disappointed they cut out most of his back story in the film
kittyperfect
May we never forget and may we never repeat the past
46853
Too late for chenya
MachoMuchoMacho
Tats more powerful than any gang signs
jeeper08jk
On this day the Armenian Genocide began, an event Hitler pointed to as the world turned a blind eye.
deadshine
Tell them that they are strong and beautiful and that I am glad they survived
KingJew
לעולם אל תשכח
Nachman
נזכור ולא נשכח
KingJew
הקדשתי מחצית מחיי לשואה
Nachman
ברצינות? דקה לא הבנתי
KingJew
ברצינות, יש לי בלוג והכל
Nachman
פשש וואו. אז כל הכבוד לך!
kupuka
It was Kippur and I saw an old jewish guy from my building eating a churro at like 2 pm, we weren't exactly friends but friendly enough 1/2
kupuka
I asked him "hey, eating a churro on kippur?" and he came, pulled up his sleeve, showed me the tattoo and said "I believe i fastened enough"
kupuka
"And he (looking up) knows it". It was like a history slap in the face.
jkallison77
Are those Purple Triangles?
CyrilConnolly
Just triangles, no clear reason why they did that.
0101001101101111011100100111001001111001
afaik to distinguish between the different "sorts" of prisoners. e.g. jews, homosexuals, jevoahs witnesses, communists, etc.
CarlaKahn
Yes. They must be Jehovahs Witnesses.
Bearcla3
OP what's the significance of today?
fuckyouandyourwittyusername
According to another comment thread, it's holocaust remembrance day.
treknor
Trump praised Le Pen a few days ago .. and Le Pen will win the next round.. better all Jews leave France.. time is running out :(
spamshampoo
I thought LePen was against islamization of the west? The proliferation of islam is why jews have been leaving Europe
treknor
Le Pen is just a Nazi ..
spamshampoo
But Nazi's killed all non-aryans. LePen just wants the EU to stop forcing France to have open borders. I think that's pretty different.
treknor
ehm.. do you listen to her? did you read the FN stuff? I do not think so. they are bloody nazis .
spamshampoo
I don't speak French. Maybe the translation was softened or changed. Didn't seem outside the realm of common sense. Didn't seem racist
CyrilConnolly
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisemitism_in_21st-century_France
HauntedSpit
I saw this a year ago!
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LiamBlack
I have no idea why you were downvoted. This is obviously a self-aware joke.
HauntedSpit
Thank you. At least there's two of us with a sense of humor.
UrsaUrsa
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thisspecieshasamuzeditselftodeath
Holy shit. What are those odds. That is amazing. I recently started watching Schindlers list but only got 20 mins in. I just couldn't do it.
thisspecieshasamuzeditselftodeath
Between 1935 and 1945 was basically the worst time in human history ever. Tearful thoughts. War is one thing and awful. Genocide another.
DaveTheMurderingHippo
The turn of the century was pretty bad all around. Don't forget the Armenian Genocide which basically gave Hitler this idea.
mkingi
The Holocaust was an atrocity, but it's not the worst genocide in human history. It's just one that happened after cameras were invented.
Theforgottenartoffuckey
20 million killed under Chinese communists 15 million under Stalin and 6 million under Hitler. May we never forget the fallen
HoldMyWater
"Communism"
ReadxPanda
and 2,369,220 people imprisoned. These are real facts!
RayearthSama
What about inquisition, Crusade and all that shit?
Theforgottenartoffuckey
Anyone who learns history will tell you we humans have taken turns repeatedly fucking one group in the ass. Egyptians, Persians, Romans. ...
pearlset
40 million Hitler aggression, 27-35 millions just in Russia, under Stalin - 1million political purges and 6-7 million violent criminals
njullpointer
40 million just to "hitler" is probably exaggerating, and 35 million 'in russia' is probably lowballing. fyi.
pearlset
this is historical facts, look it up, an estimate that Hitler caused 60 million death in Europe combined as a non-direct casualty of war
njullpointer
it's the non-direct part that makes me go "eeehh...". it's not that they don't count, it's just a bit... eeehh.
pearlset
wounded solders who did not make it, civilians that died of hunger, under ruins of their houses and war injured who have died shortly after
ReadxPanda
(a memo from the Ministry of Interior Khrushchev), from 1921 to 1953 was 642 980 people executed for counterrevolutionary crimes,
ReadxPanda
Your brains have died in the Chinese Communists. You're lying! According to the historical data of the USSR Ministry of Internal Affairs
Theforgottenartoffuckey
Link
bjaerven
is smitten with Zelda
Theforgottenartoffuckey
Grandpa?
Theforgottenartoffuckey
Glad to see you made the account today...... At 12:58am central time
mkingi
Dude the USSR lied all the time to cast a good light on communism. You can't believe their numbers. Outside estimates are far more reliable.
Hollen
I don't doubt this. But couldn't say that us western countries where/are any better.
mkingi
The estimates of millions died under Stalin and Mao weren't meant to be propaganda though, they came from investigation by historians.
Promethianfire
11 million under Hitler.
SisterSinister
The number of 5 Million non-jews is heavily disputed amongst historians.
quadralol
In camps alone.
Theforgottenartoffuckey
6 million Jews to be specific the rest are handicapped, gypsies and mixed races
yeahidontknow
I've read a lot of survivor stories. It's insane what they went through. My heart goes out to them and I hope this never happens again
SatansLover
I have people in my family who survived the Holocaust. It was amazing to hear from them when they were alive.
paleblackfish
Same here, its heart wrenching
DevonGronka
I took a course in literature that came out of the holocaust. It was the best and the most depressing class I ever took. Every day I was 1/2
DevonGronka
just thinking "how could this happen?" over and over.
LavaAxe
Looking at the rise of far right fascism... it probably will.
pegesue
I'm glad they survived. But with Trump in office I believe something like this could happen again.
Nabashin
Read a graphic novel called 'Maus' it's really good.
WilwoWaggins
Next time will it be the Christians?
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mkingi
Dude, there was a genocide in Rwanda in 1994. Genocides are far from being a thing of the past. Heck, Chechnya has gay concentration camps!
yeahidontknow
Hotel rawanda that movie tho jesus
Tywinning
Pish posh, don't you know gay people don't exist in Chechnya? You can't oppress people who don't exist. (/s in case it's needed)
thelonepig
Hey guys check out USC's Shoah Foundation. Steven Spielberg started recording the survivor's stories for everyone to see and hear, but now..
thelonepig
it's expanded to include other genocides. https://sfi.usc.edu/vha Seriously, listen to their stories.
IAmEternallyGrateful
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thelonepig
Immaculee Ilibagiza wrote a heartbreaking story of surviving the Rwandan Genocide. Left To Tell. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7Od6V6Z3ug
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imsorrydidibreakyourconcentration
I was able to see auschwitz when I visited Poland, hands down the most humbling experience I've ever had.
mrchongo
^^^^this. I went. I cried. I'll never forget it.
thehighestwalls
I visited Dachau years ago. I had goosebumps the entire time I toured the property.
itsnotaraisin
I visited Dachau as well, in my 20s. It totally changed me.
riboflaven
Thank you for sharing OP. Surviving, let alone with a family member was rare. I'm glad they did.
TinyLiehon
and our condolences for the 8 family members that were in between the two of you during queueing
Freshfunction
Pretty sure I see 80 and 81 but I'm sure they saw unspeakable things.
TinyLiehon
I'm reading 81 and 89...
cheeseguy3412
The world was shaped by WWII, still is to this day. I think about this sort of stuff all the time... so hard to wrap my head around.
Shitbuttfartpoopasscrapturdpissqueef
The people who suffered, and the people who stepped up to fight the hellish battles. Still considered the greatest generation.
Unravelled
Freshfunction
Amazing they are both alive still. There was a woman from a nearby town who suffered in one camp. The stories she told we're atrocious.
YourFriendlyNeighborhoodWizard
Isn't the worlds oldest man a holocaust survivor? From Auschwitz too?
PrincessDonaldTrumpBANNED
Fake news the holocaust was made up by the liberal media. You can ask me good friend Bannon
Xtruzzional
Need to add "/s"
PrincessDonaldTrumpBANNED
Ruin the fun?
nudewizard
TIL surviving the holocaust was rare.
riboflaven
really?
Muffyns
where is hitler buried so can dig him up and burn him at the stake?
Joshman171
Woawoawoawoawoawoa
Joshman171
Hahaha
Joshman171
Nice one lol
Joshman171
Lmaoooo
NipplesInAJar
Ah, a good ol' posthumous execution.
MudkipsRevenge
Classic.
CatTaxCollecter
For some reason I don't think that will teach him his lesson
gynonurseifixyourladybits
"Night" was written by a holocaust survivor, Elie Wiesel. It was the most gripping 1st hand account I'll ever read. Please look it up, OP.
IcommentMostlyWithGifs
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mustua
It was excellent. He died a hero just this past summer.
peaceloveandgraffiti
Holy. Shit. That's what it was called!!!!! I read that years ago and I'll never forget it. Thanks dude!
QuirkyWallace
One of the best and in my mind most important book read from high school.
gynonurseifixyourladybits
Agreed, absolutely
gremfrankenfrolek
Oh man that book is terrifying. So powerful!
cornzilla
If you found that interesting/a good read, I highly recommend In My Hands written by Jennifer Armstrong about Irene Gut Opdyke.
madguillotine
Thanks.
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OtherErinFromTheOffice
Is it not still mandatory in high schools? Or was that a recent thing? (I had to read it in '06)
gynonurseifixyourladybits
I had to read it when I was a sophomore. But that was a long time ago. I've owned the book since my mid twenties.
Theotokoss
I hadn't heard of it until I was an adult.
RyneKellam
I read it on my spare time in junior high. My school never taught it. Class '08
mrginga96
I had to read it in high school still in 2010 or 2011
OtherErinFromTheOffice
So the question is how old is @OP? It is possible they were in high school before '06.
Charmillionaire
I'm 26.
J0joTheIdiotCircusBoy
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RustyGlenn
Those are some badasses right there. Can I ask what the triangle means?
SendMePornAndNudes
why are they badasses, they just had luck
thedarksideoftheforce
Because of those awesome tattoos of course.
Charmillionaire
Slightly insensitive, no? It took more than luck to survive.
SendMePornAndNudes
what else?
BreadyStinellis
Strategy. Making themselves stand out to get chosen for jobs that weren't terribly dangerous. Going to great lengths to stay healthy in a
BreadyStinellis
Place where disease spread like crazy. Read some survivor stories. Luck has a whole lot to do with it, but there is more to it than that.
kimilsungandfriends
are you saying that those who didn't survive were weak?
HermitTurtle
Neh, I don't think OP is saying that those who were murdered were weak. They were all human and we humans come in all sorts, from... 1/?
HermitTurtle
the pitifully feeble-in-character to the impossibly strong-willed and everything in between. Each sort of person was murdered in these...2/?
shanabanana
On clothing the triangle in different colors meant different things. Just FYI: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_concentration_camp_badge
Hollen
Can anyone translate the words in the picture?
RustyGlenn
Awesome. Thanks for the clarification
dgostah
Some of those are super specific O.o
checkLiver
My grandfather jumped from the train to auschwitz, swimmed the tisza river, went back home on foot aprox 300 km
YourMumKnowsMe
Sounds like he is one badass grandpa.
Lucidacide
How did he manage to jump from the train? I thought is was closed with metal bars from outside.
Ghostguy2
The trains the Nazis used were in very bad shape, sometimes there were small holes in side due to damage. (1/2)
Ghostguy2
People would squeeze and jump out. However there were machine gunners on the roof who would shoot at the escapees (2/2)
norill
it must have been hard for him to drag his massive balls all the way
HolyyDiverr
Girl I was talking to on a school trip believes WW2 never happened and it was all made up. I immediately stopped talking to her.
Astaroth95
can believe whatever they want, in case you didn't notice there's even this thing called religion where you can believe in literally 2/3
phosgene
Holocaust denial is a crime in a large part of Europe.
drunkinstupor
She probably also puts milk in the bowl before she pours the cereal
Lezbedevious
People do that????
Quarterdime
You really showed her!
Shlano
The head of Hamas wrote his doctoral dissertation on how the Holocaust didn't happen. I wonder how many blank pages is it...
Dandolo
Six million, roughly.
ItMightBeTheWine
Always best to just walk away. There is no reasoning with them. I do the same with those that think the Earth is 6000 years old.
Lezbedevious
I used to think that, and I had the faith to prove it no matter what anyone said. It wasn't until life, and lots of research I changed
hadtochangeusernameforreasons
wtf?
Astaroth95
Can you believe it? A girl I met said that the earth is round, I immediately called her a witch and had her burned at the stake. People 1/2
JustAnotherFurry
I hate it that people don't get your sarcasm. I like your humor!
Astaroth95
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
idownvoteplottwist
If you stop talking to her you can't possibly change her mind.
merus
If you keep talking to her she'll harden her beliefs because now they're being challenged, but not enough to cause doubt.
idownvoteplottwist
one conversation. Inserting some level of doubt is good enough. 2/2
idownvoteplottwist
It really depends on your approach, honestly. Asking questions is a better approach I find. And you don't need to "win them over" in 1/
IShouldPickAUserName
I've heard about Holocaust deniers, but now there are WW2 deniers too?
CapsShield
something something history doomed to repeat itself. something something failure to learn.
EmeraldLight
There's always someone out there who is going to deny something happened.
BangkokDanger
No there's not.
LettucePrime
Don't underestimate the willpower of an idiot or their population. Statistically, 7 billion people, there's bound to be a few of the fuckers
Lezbedevious
You sneaky son of a bitch
dasklaus
This is actually a crime in Germany.
dasklaus
Denying the Holocaust, I mean, not stopping to talk to people.
ihatewarmpickles
"hey, excuse me si-" police throw on handcuffs, judge throws the book at you, 25-life. That'll teach you to stop and talk to people
GiftedMagnet
ve get more peepol off ze street zat vay...
LD2GJ
Personally, I think making that a law should be illegal.
Throrf
Arresting people for that is the exact thing they should have learned NOT to do.
LD2GJ
For denying the Holocaust? They are not arrested, they are fined IIRC.
Throrf
And if you refuse to pay the fine? It shouldn't be a crime, no matter the punishment.
JustAnotherFurry
We are way more open to shut off complete bullshit by law over here. Deny the holocaust and it is a hefty fine at least. I know there is 1/2
JustAnotherFurry
the free speech argument, but it can't cover every bullshit and outright lie. 2/2
dasklaus
I mean, libel and false advertising and harassment are also illegal. And denying the holocause is an obvious, harmful lie.
LD2GJ
But you are still denying free speech. Even if it is false or wrong; still free speech.
JustAnotherFurry
There is a saying here "Ones rights end where the rights of the others start" So if I tell your SO you would have a STD and it is not 1/2
EcnoTheNeato
The US and the UN both have limits on Free Speech. Consider this one of Germany's limits, as well.
Astaroth95
anything. Everyone else still has to respect their belief, and even make concessions for them at. 3/3
beardyfaceguy
Respecting all beliefs starts Holocausts
LettucePrime
And fucking lambast and humiliate them whenever they feel like it. Because freedom isn't a one-way street.
BreadyStinellis
Religion is about faith. Faith means to believe in so.ething you have no proof actually exists. WW2 for sure happened. In the history of the
BreadyStinellis
World it wasn't even that long ago. Some of the People who experienced it are still alive.
HandsomeSwede
1/2 Religious faith is to believe in made up things. In this case we're talking about denying something that actually happened. They are
HandsomeSwede
completely different things. Also, we don't have to respect any belief if we don't want to. Especially stupid ones like this.
Freshfunction
Whoa whoa whoa all buddy is saying is that people have a right to believe whatever. Everyone chill. FYI unicorns exist they're just shy.
LettucePrime
Look through this thread. Find me a single reply anywhere that says people don't have the right be an intellectual cunt.
Freshfunction
Saying cunt is intellectual? I thought he was saying it was ridiculous that people think it didnt happen and others thought he believed that
LettucePrime
Rather that being an intellectual cunt is to be unintellectual.
BreadyStinellis
You can believe whatever you want. But when those beliefs are contradicted by written, audio, and video proof, not to mention hundreds of
BreadyStinellis
Thousands of people who lived through it, it's fucking foolish to believe it. Frankly, it's insulting to an entire generation of people.
Freshfunction
Don't be silly I know that WWII happened I am just saying all he said was people believe ridiculous things. Can't stick up for anyone here!
servingmytimeinusersub
I'm sorry for my ignorance.. What is the significance of this date?
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servingmytimeinusersub
Thank you, I know what the the tattoos are. I was referring to OP posting on the particular date every year
jaimebond
Thank you for asking, I didn't know either. And it's not ignorant if you're trying to learn new information!
yourcommentisstupid
That's exactly what it is. Ignorance is only having a lack of knowledge. Not saying it's bad, that's just the meaning
Radix865
It seems different countries have it on different dates though. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocaust_Memorial_Day
Icommentwithnospaces
I find your username ironic.
Superbear53
forgetfulvegetarian
I think it might have been the final day when the concentration camps were captured and they were released. Just a guess tho
tonksl
I think they did it when they first got there. Watch Schindler's List
Mavgurian
*not a documentary
tonksl
I never said it was
Mavgurian
true
MyCommentsAreEntirelyReactionGifs
Yom Ha'Shoah, or Holocaust Rememberance
MyCommentsAreEntirelyReactionGifs
I believe it is ים השאה
Naamani84
יום השואה almost:
Fightik
From what i know, the first 2 letter are surely correct.
MyCommentsAreEntirelyReactionGifs
Yeah, i'm not fluent but I got that. Thanks!
theboringusername
יום השואה והגבורה - remembering the holocaust and the strength(heroism). Your username no longer checks out tho.
deafhoney
Possibly the day they escaped?
Dandolo
You didn't escape from those places. You were either never taken, or freed when the tanks rolled into Berlin.
bellaluna
That's a silly statement. At least 196 people escaped from Auschwitz-Birkenau alone. I won't bother looking into the other camps.
Dandolo
196 out of over 1.1 million is not a significant number.
bellaluna
You didn't say "an insignificant number of people escaped", you made a statement implying nobody ever escaped. That was false. Period.
CheFaCose
It is not a date. Is the number of prisoner. A code. Not a progressive number
fuckyouandyourwittyusername
OP said 'every year on this day'. Apparently it's holocaust remembrance day.
CheFaCose
No. The remembrance day of end of holocaust is january the 27.
fuckyouandyourwittyusername
Other guy who replied explains it then, it's the remembrance day in Israel.
Teeface
Holocaust remembrance day; those numbers were tattooed on each prisoner, stripping them of any other identifier
BananaBrain
Tbh honest with the numbers they were moving, sorting them by name would have been a logistical hell, more of a practical reason really
PJVeddersGirl
Really sad that this isn't a well known date. It should be marked with the respect it deserves. I didn't know either and I'm kind of ashamed
smartgirl63
I'm sure Trump or one of his minions will say something incredibly stupid today about it to embarrass us here in the US.
PJVeddersGirl
Unfortunately that's almost a sure bet. :(
TheNax
It wasn't tattooed on people sent directly to gas chambers, nor to german "reeducational" or other western nationalities Cont
TheNax
Which was there for political causes. Was mostly the "unwanted" nationalities and races who was forced to work who got it.
Ervaine
Hocaust remebrance day is about the same date that the ghetto warsaw uprising took place in '43
dolphinsurprise
This isn't exactly true. Not all prisoners were tattooed. It's a common misconception. I welcome you all to do some research.
YippinYak
Ooh, its anzac day for us in Australia
spakatak
That's tomorrow... are you even in Australia??
YippinYak
I meant I thought today was the 25th
riffifi
It'll be ANZAC day for us too in the Somme region, France. And we're glad.
Eastern37
Anzac day is tomorrow 25th...
ailynevensen
Depends on what part of the world you're living in. 7 hrs ago it was like 11 am in Australia on the 25th. For the US, it was the 24th.
Eastern37
I think you might be a little confused. I'm in Aus and it is very much still the 24th here!
YippinYak
Yep I fucked that up, we had our service today at school because we have tomorrow off and my love my tired student brain thought it was 25th
tonksl
Whats that
Eastern37
Hahaha!
tonksl
The numbers were taking away their humanity. You are no longer someone w a name or an identity, you are an insignificant number
CactusFantastic0
24601!
MoxnesMonster6
Sounds like our military. (Thats how it felt for me anyway.)
Husqvarnic
Explain at what point the military tattooed a number onto your forearm, used you for free labor, then burned you alive after a few months.
MentelPie
I mean, if I'm playing devil's advocate, just get rid of the number part and he's got a point.
JumpGunnington
It can be easy to feel like a number, in more than a few places.
MudDauberDigs
That's pretty insulting to be totally honest.
Obscurant
I don't think he's saying that the military is like the Holocaust. Just that 'feeling like an insignificant number' was how he felt.
Sneakyfish
Not at all the same thing.
nonickname23
What kind of shitbird downvotes this? Your grandmother and her sister are awesome! Give them a hug and send them flowers.
VariousVampire
"Shitbird"... riiiiight.
UpvoteDogs
brainwashed society , they who downvote this are neither Nazi nor anti-semetic.. downvoted by those who really know HISTORY
Fahargo
Please tell me how that one website had proof that disproves first hand accounts of people still alive today of the holocaust
Ervaine
Anti-semetic sh*tbirds most likely
primetime43
Most likely it's just a few internet bots.
EtienneEvrard
the kekistani neckbeards altrightfags
ReverandNick
Maybe just anyone who doesn't think there should be downvote-proof subjects. I prefer different content than you. So what?
imnotinprisonhidingaphoneinmybutt
hellomellowyellojellobitch
Haha shit bird "KA CRAAP!"
youreananus
the kind of shitbird that disregards human life. i cry in an instant if i see an animal suffer. i feel very little if i see a person suffer.
Lucallia
The type that believes the Holocaust was fake or didn't ever happen.
ltsDizzyD
Low life shit covered scum that have no respect for human life.
SaraFourImgur
In bird culture this is known as a dick move
rebel1996
Why are people down voting this?!?!
grumpy173
Hint: they also support trump
Badyams73
Hint: started by Democrats. http://www.history.com/topics/ku-klux-klan
grumpy173
HAHAHAHAHAHA - 150 years ago. That was before the Republicans became the neo-Nazi, pro-KKK party of racism and bigotry.
Badyams73
If you believe the lies your overlords tell you, just like I believe the lies mine do.
Badyams73
Plus, if you're going to discount the past, then you are saying that slavery didn't matter since it was so long ago
grumpy173
HAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHA - what next, you gonna do a "yo mamma" line? HAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
TheToll
Ah yes, the president with a jewish daughter and is surrounded by jewish advisors. He is obviously the new messiah of neo nazis worldwide
grumpy173
You mean the Prez who was supported by every neo-nazi organization in the world. The one who ignored Jews on Holocaust Remembrance Day ...
grumpy173
The one whose other senior adviser is a medal-wearing member of a Hungarian neo-nazi organization
grumpy173
The one whose senior adviser is a published anti-semite and neo-nazi
TheToll
Okay give me names of those neo-nazi organizations of yours
grumpy173
Not mine - obviously yours. We can start with the American Nazi Party. ACT for America. Alliance Defending Freedom. The Daily Stormer 1/
grumpy173
That's enough for now. There are another 40 or so organizations of this ilk.
grumpy173
Creativity Movement. EURO. Imperial Klans of America. Institute for Historical Research. Keystone United. National Alliance. 4/
grumpy173
Blood & Honour. Brotherhood of Klans. Church of the National Knights of the Ku Klux Klan. Council of Conservative Citizens. 3/
grumpy173
American's Promise Ministries. American Freedom Party. American Renaissance. Aryan Brotherhood. Aryan Brotherhood of TX. Aryan Nations. 2/
mustua
Don't politicize this. Please. Not on a post like this.
grumpy173
Yes, let's ignore the rebirth of the nazis so that in 20 years we can be saying "if only someone had stood up to them back in 2017"
InfraredSnapper
Yes, let's remember history without trying to learn anything from it.
Corona688
As Billy Joel put it, "we didn't start the fire". It's political. You can't ignore that. Sorry.
mustua
Was there a lyric saying "but we're going to add fuel to it nevertheless regardless of the fact it portrays us as destructive and reckless?"
Corona688
Nope. The lyrics don't include "everything is fine", either.
orbitn
Fuck holocaust deniers, history revisionists, and anyone who says "It can't happen here/again"
theresgarlicinthatnebula
Literally concentration camps in Chechnya right now.
simbu2000
True, look at Europe ans US right now.
Fahargo
As fucked as this administration is to compare it to the rise of Hitler is so fucking ignorant it's astounding. Were not a socialist 1/2
Fahargo
communist or Facist country. We live in a country where even homeless people have cell phones. There can be no secret holocaust without 2/3
Fahargo
the public knowing.
StoneThrowingDevil
The public knowing won't be the issue if it happens again. It'll be them whipped into a frenzy of hating the people so much they won't care
orbitn
are we becoming the baddies
aPokal
Better the baddies, than the frenchies. (Has La Pen won yet?)
Maximilliani
I tought the same as you until i went. Im not saying it didnt happen (its illigal). But it just doesn't add up. I dont know what to belive.
Corona688
That's how denialists get you. They inject tiny doubts. But the thing is, the tiny errors do NOT add up to large fact.
Fahargo
How about in the mountain of evidence and the survivor stories of people still alive today who went through it dear god. You can talk 1/2
Fahargo
to someone who went through it. This isn't something that can be denied when there are people alive to prove it. It takes a special level2/3
Fahargo
of ignorance to look at countless people tell their stories of the death camps an entire town exterminations and say nah they're all liars
Corona688
Minor errors of the sort that happen in war do not diminish the MOUNTAIN of evidence. It's literally the best-documented crime in history.
orbitn
OK then. At least you don't shy away from your position. I won't try changing your mind as long as you don't try killing people.
Maximilliani
Saidly here you can see that even if you question what happend,its is not accepteble. why can we question everything, exept for this subject
theresgarlicinthatnebula
Why would I worry about your opinion when you don't even exist? There's just so much evidence you don't so why talk to you?
BreadyStinellis
Because there is a difference between belief and historical fact.
Fahargo
Because you can't question historical fact. You can't look in the eyes of people still alive today. countless people and say. Yeah 1/2
Fahargo
your all liars. And all the survivors no longer with us? they're all liars. All the photo evidence? photo-shopped. All the documents? fake
Maximilliani
You do not only have to thust on the documents and photos. The gas chambers are still there. Then you can see the flaws that they have.
hellcatenstein
Know why that is? Because whether or not the numbers add up to you, it is what the Nazis planned to do, and they accomplished it.
Lucidacide
There's a lot of evidence everywhere... Photographs and films, lots of testimonials from victims and witnesses, nazi registers.... 1/
flaccidhope
Unfortunately, you can't ever convince Holocaust Deniers. As soon as you mention the evidence, they take that as a cue it's up for debate.
Lucidacide
There is literally hundreds of thousands documents about it! A lot have been published. Nuremberg trials couldn't have take place without it
Maximilliani
Indeed. But there is also a lot of evidence against it. Also some witnesses say the opposite. I just want to know the truth, i dont know yet
theresgarlicinthatnebula
I want to have a conversation with you about this, but there's just so much evidence that you don't exist that I'm not sure about it...
Maximilliani
sure, im open for any conversation's.
PerhapsAnotherPerspective
...No, there isn't "a lot" of evidence against it. There are some statements, a couple poorly run chemical tests, and that's about it.
Maximilliani
Have you seen the gas chamber they show you at the tour? Its hard to belive that it was one. I recomend watching David Cole's film.Its on YT
lambaroo
i'm not even going to offer you the chance to put forward your shit view. if you don't believe it happened you're a fkn retard
Maximilliani
I base my view on the evidence. Not from propaganda story's.I dont know what happend. I do know the story that we know today does not add up
Fahargo
What doesn't add up? There's countless stories and photo evidence of the Nazis exterminating people.
Fahargo
The Nazis kept meticulous records of everything.
revcleo
And more information is being released soon online, it was kept in storage
revcleo
https://www.wienerlibrary.co.uk/ researchers can view all they want here,