Things seen this week during structural assessments!

Nov 25, 2024 5:59 PM

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In Rolling Hills Estates, the constant land movement is causing this home to rip apart.

The house is splitting down the middle as the shifting ground beneath it destabilizes the foundation.

Massive cracks have formed in the walls and floors, and the kitchen cabinets are pulling away from the walls. The structural integrity of the home is quickly worsening as the ground movement continues.

This girder is split in two. A girder is meant to distribute the load of the structure evenly across the foundation. With this damage, the home is no longer properly supported, posing significant structural risks.

This home has 6 internal stem walls, all severely affected by spalling.

The damage appears to come from long-neglected plumbing issues, which not only caused spall damage but also led to parts of the interior floor being uplifted. With the stem walls weakened, they can no longer provide adequate support for the home.

On the right, you can see an old block wall originally built to support this deck. On the left are stacked CMU block walls that were added in an attempt to terrace the hillside. However, these walls lack rebar reinforcement and concrete-filled cells, making them structurally unstable.

Over time, the walls have started sliding down the hillside.

This deck's foundation was not properly built to hillside building codes.

A small landslide caused by a burst irrigation line further undermined the deck’s footing, which also lacked the proper embedment for stability.

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I would be packing my shit and leaving. This is panic inducing for me. I hope you're able to get this sorted @OP

2 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 0

#1 owner now describes it as 'split level'

2 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Every time I drove around the bend, Palos Verdes Dr North, I think, to shortcut to San Pedro, Portuguese Bend area's ocean beach water was perpetually brown due to dirt sliding down the hill. This was in '81.

2 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

It's been happening for years. Can't say it was unexpected.

2 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

There are good traditional ways to avoid this problem with ground movement. For example, put on two legs, and have the house simply walk around like Baba Yagas hut.

2 years ago | Likes 66 Dislikes 1

#1 at this point is it honestly worth fixing the place up or just buying a new place or tearing down the current place and rebuilding from the ground up (assuming you can afford three options of course)

2 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

I think rebuilding would need to start with the actual ground, or it'll just happen again. (And given where it is, that's probably not an option.)

2 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

That whole area is so screwed

2 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

I'm no expert, but that looks not great.

2 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

You sound like an expert.

2 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

I appreciate your confidence. I am qualified to fill out papers stating that electronics are boned, why they are boned, what steps could be taken to prevent the replacements for being boned, and why someone has to pay me to un-bone the system.

My degrees exist entirely for me to say "You didn't do it the way I said to in the first place, and it mysteriously broke."

2 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

It’s not supposed to do that.

2 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

More like "Rolling down the Hills" Estates am I right?!

2 years ago | Likes 151 Dislikes 2

Who live there, the Rolling Stones?

2 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

2 years ago | Likes 48 Dislikes 0

You buy on the hills and retire in the valley.

2 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 0

#1 that's a load bearing crack

2 years ago | Likes 30 Dislikes 0

Title of your sex tape

2 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 0

2 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Must be OP's mom's house

2 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Working from home.

2 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Saw the first image and thought “Oh man, Alpha Structural needs to see this”, then I saw who OP was 😅

2 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

The one and only.

2 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

Landlord: the house got split into two houses, so now you need to pay two rents.

2 years ago | Likes 221 Dislikes 1

The front rent and the back rent.

2 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

Realtor: it’s got twice the charm, twice the space. Think of it as two for the price of one.

2 years ago | Likes 81 Dislikes 0

"is it a split level home?"

"Now it is, yeah."

2 years ago | Likes 42 Dislikes 0

"So it's still level?"

"It's a home, and it's ready."

2 years ago | Likes 23 Dislikes 0

"We're gonna need a mile of foam filler and a 5 gallon bucket of beige paint before we hike the price and sell it." Looks pretty fucked, Bront. I'm not a professional in the field though.

2 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 0

Im gonna go ahead and say that’s no bueno

2 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

No bueno at all. #30DaysonDuolingo

2 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

Just don't skip too many days or the owl will visit (possible NSFW possible NSFL) https://youtu.be/mtd92pfy0YY?si=9ICGdzitBsMG_jyQ

2 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

meat canyon is something else

2 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

"the kitchen cabinets are pulling away from the walls. " Or, are the walls pulling away from the cabinets

2 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Is the Zebra black with white strips or white with black stripes?

2 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Yes.

2 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Is Rolling Hills Estates a good place to live?
Rolling Hills Estates is a suburb of Los Angeles with a population of 8,214. Rolling Hills Estates is in Los Angeles County and is one of the best places to live in California.
Wonder how long ago that was written lol

2 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

the hills may have been a bit more stationary and a bit less rolling at the time

2 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

ah heck this coast is constantly moving into the sea. just reeeeeeaallllllll slow like.

2 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Well, it is the "Rolling" Hills and not the "Staying Put" Hills!

2 years ago | Likes 18 Dislikes 0

You should have been there when they were naming it!

2 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

2 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 0

it will leave you Baroque...

2 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

Tear it down and start again, Dave.

2 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

i think thats not good

2 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I think it can get worser.

2 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I really need to stop complaining about having to clean out our gutters each fall.

2 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Perks of living on flat land... flat earthers unite!... Oh wait.

2 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Now, I'm no expert, but that don't look good.

2 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I am an expert and I agree.

2 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Subdivision name checks out.

2 years ago | Likes 303 Dislikes 0

My exact thought.

2 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

"sudden valley"

2 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Potatoes Heat checks out.

2 years ago | Likes 18 Dislikes 1

Wut?

2 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

Sudden Valley

2 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

2 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

Uline Catalog came in Handy? Glad we can be a nice Paralegal. Haha.

2 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

How did they notice?

2 years ago | Likes 78 Dislikes 0

Not sure, but glad this situation didn't slip through the cracks!

2 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Let's just say there were signs...

2 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 0

and portents

2 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

They probably just looked down and said "Oh fuck, that's a Crack"

2 years ago | Likes 56 Dislikes 0

That's a small crack, l should look into it. (Two years later trips on crack) Fuck that's gotten big.

2 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 0

Can confirm this is how it went.

2 years ago | Likes 40 Dislikes 0

Yes... But can it be fixed?

2 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 0

Duct tape fixes everything right?

2 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Red Green approves this post! +1

2 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Anything can be fixed with sufficient funds. Whether it’s worth fixing is another story.

2 years ago | Likes 16 Dislikes 0

That'll buff right out.

2 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

Just toss a rug over it, out of sight, out of mind. If I can't see it, it doesn't exist, and is not a problem.

2 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

I am wondering if people keep living there or if the houses you post are all 'pack your shit and go live somewhere else immediately'

2 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 0

Open the door, see giant crack down the middle of the floor, walk back to car to retrieve a long stick and a condemned sticker. Apply sticker to front of the house with the stick so you don't have to get within the danger zone. Just remember to be gentle so you don't accidentally knock the house down while applying the sticker.

2 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

As I understand it from prior posts, they submit a bid with one or more suggestions to the owner. Beyond that, I'm pretty sure this house would lose its permits.

2 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

It's amazing the things people will live with if they develop gradually. "Well it doesn't look any different from yesterday, and nothing happened yesterday, so it's probably fine"

2 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 0

Like fascism?

2 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

I would like to know too. Surely at this point they have to have moved out ages ago, right? Even if they don't fully understand exactly how bad it is because they've not seen underneath and they're not an expert, the giant CRACK in the middle must be a very clear clue to anyone whose eyes work.

2 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

I mean, anything is possible over there. I wouldn't be surprised if they think it is still fine.

2 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

The furniture's all there still, which shocked me. Mine would be in storage by that point, and I'd be couch-surfing if necessary. It's not worth your life.

2 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

I have the impression the person who owns this home doesn't live there full time.

2 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Just use some caulk and good as new

2 years ago | Likes 16 Dislikes 0

I was thinking Ramen, but yours works better.

2 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

I'll make sure to include that in my suggestions portion of the assessment.

2 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 0

Someone out there will take you seriously

2 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

That would be the perfect time for a caulk blocker

2 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Question: what do the owners even do in this situation? It looks pretty unsalvageable. Demolish the whole thing and start over?

2 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

#1 my dad would be ignore this so hard and say its fine, i can't afford the fix anyways! oh but you can afford a brand new house?

2 years ago | Likes 19 Dislikes 0

I'm sorry about your obviously Trump voting father.

2 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 2

he did, he voted for trump, big surprise

2 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Are we all living the same existence with the same parents...

2 years ago | Likes 17 Dislikes 0

maybe

2 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

at what point do you evacuate the home?

2 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Several months ago. Palos Verdes and the surrounding estates such as Rolling Hills were told to evacuate multiple times in March, June, July, August, September, etc. But those rich people who claim they aren't rich refuse to leave and want the city of LA to pick up the tab on things like Generators because oh noo their multimillion dollar mistake that they purchased and signed waivers saying they knew the risk of living there needs to be saved by the taxpayers who are already struggling!

2 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Oh and this has been documented by geologists going back to the 50s. It isn't a new or sudden thing. It was sped up by a rare hurricane and an especially wet rainy season, but this has been going on for decades.

2 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

ah, so i dont have to feel sorry for these homeowners then

2 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I'm sure there's probably some good people in there, but most from my personal experience are just entitled rich bastards.

2 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0