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In Rolling Hills Estates, the constant land movement is causing this home to rip apart.
The house is splitting down the middle as the shifting ground beneath it destabilizes the foundation.
Massive cracks have formed in the walls and floors, and the kitchen cabinets are pulling away from the walls. The structural integrity of the home is quickly worsening as the ground movement continues.
This girder is split in two. A girder is meant to distribute the load of the structure evenly across the foundation. With this damage, the home is no longer properly supported, posing significant structural risks.
This home has 6 internal stem walls, all severely affected by spalling.
The damage appears to come from long-neglected plumbing issues, which not only caused spall damage but also led to parts of the interior floor being uplifted. With the stem walls weakened, they can no longer provide adequate support for the home.
On the right, you can see an old block wall originally built to support this deck. On the left are stacked CMU block walls that were added in an attempt to terrace the hillside. However, these walls lack rebar reinforcement and concrete-filled cells, making them structurally unstable.
Over time, the walls have started sliding down the hillside.
This deck's foundation was not properly built to hillside building codes.
A small landslide caused by a burst irrigation line further undermined the deck’s footing, which also lacked the proper embedment for stability.
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PJamz
I would be packing my shit and leaving. This is panic inducing for me. I hope you're able to get this sorted @OP
UsernameMayBeSubjectToChange
#1 owner now describes it as 'split level'
57rescraft9
Every time I drove around the bend, Palos Verdes Dr North, I think, to shortcut to San Pedro, Portuguese Bend area's ocean beach water was perpetually brown due to dirt sliding down the hill. This was in '81.
AlphaStructural
It's been happening for years. Can't say it was unexpected.
SithElephant
There are good traditional ways to avoid this problem with ground movement. For example, put on two legs, and have the house simply walk around like Baba Yagas hut.
PlacentaEaters
#1 at this point is it honestly worth fixing the place up or just buying a new place or tearing down the current place and rebuilding from the ground up (assuming you can afford three options of course)
PuzzledCompletely
I think rebuilding would need to start with the actual ground, or it'll just happen again. (And given where it is, that's probably not an option.)
HapilyDamaged
That whole area is so screwed
MadDucks
I'm no expert, but that looks not great.
AlphaStructural
You sound like an expert.
MadDucks
I appreciate your confidence. I am qualified to fill out papers stating that electronics are boned, why they are boned, what steps could be taken to prevent the replacements for being boned, and why someone has to pay me to un-bone the system.
My degrees exist entirely for me to say "You didn't do it the way I said to in the first place, and it mysteriously broke."
NancyReaganSchoolOfGawk
It’s not supposed to do that.
VolcanoHerder
More like "Rolling down the Hills" Estates am I right?!
WarlockSniper
Who live there, the Rolling Stones?
AlphaStructural
Affray
You buy on the hills and retire in the valley.
sixtimesseven
#1 that's a load bearing crack
isthisreddit0
Title of your sex tape
swedeonamoose
ForrestDwellingDonkey
Must be OP's mom's house
AlphaStructural
Working from home.
jonklein611
Saw the first image and thought “Oh man, Alpha Structural needs to see this”, then I saw who OP was 😅
AlphaStructural
The one and only.
camn333
Landlord: the house got split into two houses, so now you need to pay two rents.
usernametakenisthestoryofmylife
The front rent and the back rent.
AlphaStructural
Realtor: it’s got twice the charm, twice the space. Think of it as two for the price of one.
LurkMasterP
"is it a split level home?"
"Now it is, yeah."
AGiantSlor
"So it's still level?"
"It's a home, and it's ready."
Eyhlix
"We're gonna need a mile of foam filler and a 5 gallon bucket of beige paint before we hike the price and sell it." Looks pretty fucked, Bront. I'm not a professional in the field though.
DingusMcGhee
Im gonna go ahead and say that’s no bueno
AlphaStructural
No bueno at all. #30DaysonDuolingo
KnifeKnut
Just don't skip too many days or the owl will visit (possible NSFW possible NSFL) https://youtu.be/mtd92pfy0YY?si=9ICGdzitBsMG_jyQ
Sorrontis
meat canyon is something else
PuzzledCompletely
"the kitchen cabinets are pulling away from the walls. " Or, are the walls pulling away from the cabinets
AlphaStructural
Is the Zebra black with white strips or white with black stripes?
PuzzledCompletely
Yes.
HapilyDamaged
Is Rolling Hills Estates a good place to live?
Rolling Hills Estates is a suburb of Los Angeles with a population of 8,214. Rolling Hills Estates is in Los Angeles County and is one of the best places to live in California.
Wonder how long ago that was written lol
onlyhalfghost
the hills may have been a bit more stationary and a bit less rolling at the time
HapilyDamaged
ah heck this coast is constantly moving into the sea. just reeeeeeaallllllll slow like.
HonHomes
Well, it is the "Rolling" Hills and not the "Staying Put" Hills!
AlphaStructural
You should have been there when they were naming it!
ImOnlyHereForTheComments
AlphaStructural
it will leave you Baroque...
AlonzoMoselyFBI
Tear it down and start again, Dave.
brandonblk
i think thats not good
AlphaStructural
I think it can get worser.
kayaker01
I really need to stop complaining about having to clean out our gutters each fall.
AlphaStructural
Perks of living on flat land... flat earthers unite!... Oh wait.
Fishkeeper
Now, I'm no expert, but that don't look good.
AlphaStructural
I am an expert and I agree.
KnifeKnut
Subdivision name checks out.
FetteredJuvenescence
My exact thought.
figuringeights
"sudden valley"
heller8790
Potatoes Heat checks out.
KnifeKnut
Wut?
arewenotkingsandqueenstogether
Sudden Valley
OMFGWhatHaveWeDONE
heller8790
Uline Catalog came in Handy? Glad we can be a nice Paralegal. Haha.
SomebodythatIusedtonope
How did they notice?
PosthumousExile
Not sure, but glad this situation didn't slip through the cracks!
usernametakenisthestoryofmylife
Let's just say there were signs...
Cilvaa
and portents
Dimension09
They probably just looked down and said "Oh fuck, that's a Crack"
psugab
That's a small crack, l should look into it. (Two years later trips on crack) Fuck that's gotten big.
AlphaStructural
Can confirm this is how it went.
BeenThereSeenThat
Yes... But can it be fixed?
RocknRootRanchcuzallwegotisrocksandrootsandafewtrees
Duct tape fixes everything right?
BeenThereSeenThat
Red Green approves this post! +1
WhatTheFrench
Anything can be fixed with sufficient funds. Whether it’s worth fixing is another story.
Ihadtoditchmyotherusernamebecauseofyou
That'll buff right out.
randomwalrus
Just toss a rug over it, out of sight, out of mind. If I can't see it, it doesn't exist, and is not a problem.
krissimonsta
I am wondering if people keep living there or if the houses you post are all 'pack your shit and go live somewhere else immediately'
Remmon1
Open the door, see giant crack down the middle of the floor, walk back to car to retrieve a long stick and a condemned sticker. Apply sticker to front of the house with the stick so you don't have to get within the danger zone. Just remember to be gentle so you don't accidentally knock the house down while applying the sticker.
Pavloval
As I understand it from prior posts, they submit a bid with one or more suggestions to the owner. Beyond that, I'm pretty sure this house would lose its permits.
TurnsOut42WasASlightMiscalculation
It's amazing the things people will live with if they develop gradually. "Well it doesn't look any different from yesterday, and nothing happened yesterday, so it's probably fine"
rumandbass
Like fascism?
RunawaySpoons
I would like to know too. Surely at this point they have to have moved out ages ago, right? Even if they don't fully understand exactly how bad it is because they've not seen underneath and they're not an expert, the giant CRACK in the middle must be a very clear clue to anyone whose eyes work.
krissimonsta
I mean, anything is possible over there. I wouldn't be surprised if they think it is still fine.
InkyBlinkyPinkyAndClyde
The furniture's all there still, which shocked me. Mine would be in storage by that point, and I'd be couch-surfing if necessary. It's not worth your life.
Snuggelapolous
I have the impression the person who owns this home doesn't live there full time.
SoftKleenex
Just use some caulk and good as new
BrightestNight
I was thinking Ramen, but yours works better.
AlphaStructural
I'll make sure to include that in my suggestions portion of the assessment.
SoftKleenex
Someone out there will take you seriously
metroid2
That would be the perfect time for a caulk blocker
Zephronias
Question: what do the owners even do in this situation? It looks pretty unsalvageable. Demolish the whole thing and start over?
Taishosama
#1 my dad would be ignore this so hard and say its fine, i can't afford the fix anyways! oh but you can afford a brand new house?
TheGgreen100
I'm sorry about your obviously Trump voting father.
Taishosama
he did, he voted for trump, big surprise
AlphaStructural
Are we all living the same existence with the same parents...
Taishosama
maybe
wantednokes
at what point do you evacuate the home?
undercoverles
Several months ago. Palos Verdes and the surrounding estates such as Rolling Hills were told to evacuate multiple times in March, June, July, August, September, etc. But those rich people who claim they aren't rich refuse to leave and want the city of LA to pick up the tab on things like Generators because oh noo their multimillion dollar mistake that they purchased and signed waivers saying they knew the risk of living there needs to be saved by the taxpayers who are already struggling!
undercoverles
Oh and this has been documented by geologists going back to the 50s. It isn't a new or sudden thing. It was sped up by a rare hurricane and an especially wet rainy season, but this has been going on for decades.
wantednokes
ah, so i dont have to feel sorry for these homeowners then
undercoverles
I'm sure there's probably some good people in there, but most from my personal experience are just entitled rich bastards.