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Nowherekid03
Civics and Critical Thinking
bbb8bbb8bbb
These all already exist, they're just in wealthy school districts
FrankTheCube
Your ass slept through math class, what makes you think that you won’t sleep though tax class?
trasneoir
Most of the developed world do return-free filings. The only reason most US residents need to file returns is to keep Intuit/H&R Block happy
Nunyajonesinc
Civics, bring back civics for fucks sale, teach people their rights under the law and to respect other people's rights under the law.
georgedragonslayer
In my High School, It was called HomeEc (Home Economics). It was an elective. I took the class because only girls took that class. I'm male.
StrandedonEarth
And next you'll go into nursing, because again, it'll be mostly women...
georgedragonslayer
Went into IT. That was 40 years ago. Better money decision, because I know for sure I could not have been a nurse. Hair stylist. Maybe?
kaiserkevin
5/7 of these are math. We teach this already. Most y'all just not applying it. Self defense is escalatory, interpersonal communication isn't
kaiserkevin
I'm sorry these piss me off b/c we have/had these and students didn't want to be there. HomeEc was a thing. No-one signed up.
Saigon333
I cannot emphasize enough how much we all would have slept through taxes class.
HelloToe
• How to manage stress
CaptainStinkyVonPoopberg
This. Emotional education is such a necessity and yet we're all just expected to stumble into trauma after trauma and just "grow up".
hEaDb3ntOv3rRaisEth3PostEriOr
Role of public policy and how govt works
420supercoolusername69
Four of those fall under the same category. It’s all financial literacy.
UnhelpfulAnswers
Civics... That should be taught throughout all high school years
Layinginbed
Mental health management
pr0ze
But i thought learning about gen washington in every grade was preparing me for life?
blaghart
They don't exist because basically none of them are complicated enough to justify an entire class. And the last two ARE high school classes.
tehmatser
Yeah, these are legit like career ed or special ed classes. Knock yourself out if you are that eager to take them
notacobra
They are, it's called Maths and science. But the people who think taxes are hard spent them both saying "when will we ever use this!?"
SilimSaver
All classes none of you fuckers would've paid attention too. Neither would I have. Stop acting like school did you some huge disservice.
Dimlingen
I'm not saying your wrong, but parents have a responsibility to teach their kids a thing or two as well. It's not JUST the schools. Imho
LanceCorporalBadger
My kids school has life skills days where they teach things like how to sew a button and change a tire and stuff like that
xenocrisis0153
Republicunts don't want citizens learning about these because they can make FAR MUCH MORE money off people who don't understand.
Munchman347
How to avoid creepy Rep-Con Pedos...
mistermixelpix
2, 3, and 6 are math, 4 and 5 are definitely a class, 1 is health class, and arguably a lot of this should be parents' responsibility.
trasneoir
To my mind, Equality of Opportunity means the state should take responsibility for teaching any essential skills it can.
WaveMotionGum
*assuming parents understand taxes. Mine didn't understand tax brackets; their lessons would have been counterproductive.
MarkSoupial
Yes but those are not profitable training programs for existing businesses (they are, but not directly)
conniecpu
The key to building good credit is to already have plenty of money but let the bank keep a tiny bit of it as interest for no real reason :)
ExecutiveProducerWolfDyck
Consume in a steady predictable matter just barely above your ability to maintain indefinitely.
WaveMotionGum
Also, fuck the entire credit score system. We need something better.
Daeyelle
The credit score system is incorrectly named
UmHowAboutAnonymous
Not even close. You can have lots of money and garbage credit. You need to borrow and pay on time, consistently. Even small amounts help.
conniecpu
I was just making a joke that good credit is a lot easier to get when you didn't really need it to begin with lol
jhuckaby
How to detect and avoid misinformation online.
CosplayComet
I saw a post once that said, "If doing your taxes was a class when you were in high school, you would have cut it..."
DVSBSTrD
As someone who took Home Ec, this is accurate. Can't remember a damn thing from that class :(
tehmatser
Literally log in to turbo tax. The end.
AceBandito
I'd recommend screwing around on turbotax to get familiar, but actually filing with freetaxusa once you get it.
duhqueenmoki
It was kinda taught in my school. Economics and Gov are required in CA, but it's entry-level classes, mostly the basics.
SnaccAttacc
"Account" sounds like a fake night school course at Greendale
notkvothethebloodless
Reading?
farsntarg
“Now, Jeffrey, it’s not a fake course. There are certainly students and a teacher-like substitute involved.”
GeneralGinger531
Except it is about managing personal finances, such as unit pricing and balancing your checkbook
joot
Didn’t they already cover that in “Money Management”?
GeneralGinger531
debatable, but honestly I overlooked that. A broader "Personal Finance" course is my go to.
JackalRailroad
Its a class taught by a business professor who just secretly wanted to teach a course about vampires
DALLASLAVOWNER
and he uses a hand puppet who looks surprising like a not to be named for fear of lawsuite character on seasame street
sharkhugs
Taught by ….. a Count
HogWashDiddler
2,3, and 6 is math class. 4 and 5 was taught in my home ec class. 1 was taught in a class my school called health. And 7 i learned at recess
Xero999
Money management and tax are not taught in math just how they are formulated same for accountancy. Money is always a psychological matter
HogWashDiddler
Responsibility is a psychological matter. The tools to manage money and do taxes are very much taught in math.
Xero999
Yes and no as math doesn't teach money matter how it should be taught is far to generalised. Like Daniel kahneman slow brain fast brain
Xero999
And all the other bais we have which set us up to fial when money is involved
HogWashDiddler
Thinking fast and slow is a good book and should be required reading for anyone in high school, i agree. But that doesnt change that...
ShimmerinStrider
NO. LIES. DETECTED. It's just not many people see it that way.
samwyze
Home Ec.? Wow, my district got rid of that in '95.
BulgogiBolognese
And you know what? The person who wrote this still wouldn't have listened and participated in class
smashpro1
And 2, 3, 4, 5, and 6 were also all in a class at my school called Consumer Education, and it was a requirement to graduate.
BrokeMyFunnyBone
3 is more law than math
SybilCrawley
Home ec!? Did you go to school back in the 1900's or somethin?
ServerMonkeyKing
This comment has made me unreasonably sad.
rusrsdude
Problem is they can't see the connection between the classes they have vs the skills they teach irl. Lacking critical thinking, essentially.
CaptainStinkyVonPoopberg
Teaching individual skills is secondary to teaching problem solving, critical thinking, and most importantly how to learn. 1/2
ShitIcantthinkofausernameagain
Unfortunately now those are just buzzwords used to excuse not actually teaching important skills
giveittomestraightlikeapearcidermadefrom100percentpears
How to learn is very important. I taught myself English language to a quite high standard by the age of 12. The teachers would teach us in >
giveittomestraightlikeapearcidermadefrom100percentpears
a sort of paint by numbers style. But just learning etymologies of words and the rules. It was harder and longer. But was 100X more useful
Gantzz321
the AMERICAN system to test taking is not how you learn, it is only short-term memorization. hope that is not what you are talking about
CaptainStinkyVonPoopberg
School gave you all the tools you need to acquire the skills above. It is your job to take those tools and use them. 2/2
cavymeister
School taught me that mitochondria is the powerhouse of the cell.
5amNonsense
School didn't give me most of the above but I get your point
BatmanAndCradleRobin
While I agree I think the voluntary aspect of them has not worked out so well
yourfriendlyneighbourhoodtzimisce
A broad generalization that doesn't hold water when one takes into account the wildly broad spectra of school curriculum & resources by area
Tootsie1
They don't anymore. That's the issue.
kargul
It depends on the school. I agree that the focus should be on teaching problem solving. Some schools do it well now; others do not.
GeneralGinger531
Except it didn't. When I was in school it was their way of solving problems or the highway, I had to work around them not with them.
TallDude
Yes and no. When we got "no child left behind" the emphasis was on taking tests for funding, not teaching.
Lynkfox
That's pretty optimistic to think school actually taught those things. 40 years they've been making it teach such things less and less
KilroyLichking
...a workforce smart enough to fill out the forms but dumb enough to not understand what they are signing
datester35
I would say schools have been teaching it more and more. Especially in Illinois, most of op's list are required curriculum.
crookedhindlegoni
My experience was that some schools would teach such concepts, while others allowed themselves to fall apart. 1/2
crookedhindlegoni
So like the small white urban setting, it totally had it all. But when you got to the lower funding district, just anarchy and neglect.
InkyBlinkyPinkyAndClyde
Which means the people who are going to need that education the most, are the least likely to get it.
Lynkfox
Yes. This has been part of the GQPs plan for 40 years. It creates a base of voters who are easily led about by soundbites
invaderjak
But before all that, bring back civics. Teach people their rights and how the government works!
unit48
Who downvotes civics? I remember when it changed to social studies and I was robbed.
georgedragonslayer
It was called Social Studies. It taught the structure of US government and how Federal/State/Local governments work (or don't).
Imalwaysready
Social Studies is the discipline, Civics is the subject. There are many Social Studies classes (history, econ, etc) & Civics is just one.
georgedragonslayer
I am aware of that. My high school rolled all of that into a 1 semester class that was a requirement to graduate. We need that. (at least).
georgedragonslayer
History was a whole different course and came in American, European, or World. Only had to take one.
Raoin
Hard pass. Desantis did that down here in FL and it's a shit show.
MyCommentsUsuallyHaveTypos
And fucking drivers ed
morninggloryshade777
Well that would severely crimp the REPs full takeover plans....
SpecialAgentPinkfinger
Maybe it's a California thing, but I definitely learned about Civics in "social studies" like an entire semester was just US civics.
SpecialAgentPinkfinger
Also might be an "i'm old" thing, as my 20 year hs reunion didn't happen cuz it was last year.
jidar
/s how the government is *supposed* to work /s
Vanderhugen
I don't think this should be sarcasm. The Supreme Court has already ruled that you can't get a new trial if your attorney was incompetent 1/
Vanderhugen
And that you don't have a right to a new trial even if you have evidence that proves your innocent. Also the whole woman lose autonomy thing
UseTheForceLuke
Definitely though you were talking about the Honda sedan at first and was super confused lol
invaderjak
lol!
distraingotnobrakes
I’m all for teaching kids about Honda sedans, but they say that Jesus never spoke of his own accord.
BlackoutTwisty
Imalwaysready
Sad thing is, it mostly never left. It just isn't taught well and is treated as a time-filling afterthought in many school districts.
bluejolt
We had all of these when I was in HS except self defense. Unfortunately, they were usually taught by sports coaches that seemed not into it.
doubleohwhatever
Wait, civics is no longer taught? When the fuck did this happen?
Dagordae
Ignore Zappa’s bitching, Civics didn’t go anywhere. If you somehow managed to forget all of Social Studies, that’s a personal problem.
lemmerustlethosejimmies
People keep saying this and people keep replying that most school programs have some kind of civics program stop acting like they don't.
celtfaery
It’s still taught. Multiple times. It’s a senior graduation requirement most states
grumpiestoldwoman
Is that why Lauren Boebert doesn't know it?
duhqueenmoki
Jfc thank you. Can't count how many times on imgur ppl claim to know what is and isn't taught in school. So out of touch.
demoncookie
Catholic school in Philadelphia still doesn't have civics class.
duhqueenmoki
Not surprised lol. What a disgrace.
CreepyPhlox
Civics still exists. Just because you don’t remember anything you learned from it doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist.
invaderjak
I remember just fine, but the last few years have shown me too many people that didn’t learn shit
morelikeconsham
that is different from "they don't teach civics." they do. Americans are just inherently lazy and apathetic, and they go out of their way to
morelikeconsham
forget things like civics because they revel in their own stupidity.
GiantMoron
They don't teach this anymore???
CreepyPhlox
They do. Just nobody paid attention to the class so forgot they had it.
Dagordae
They still teach it. It’s called Social Studies now, greater scope and more time spent. But idiots have to blame something for their
Dagordae
Ignorance so they have decided they were never taught rather than they never bothered to learn.
Imalwaysready
No Social Studies is the umbrella discipline and always has been. Civics is a specific class within that discipline. One among many, like >
Imalwaysready
history, economics, geography, sociology, psychology, etc. Just like algebra, trigonometry, geometry, and calculus are all distinct >
Imalwaysready
branches of "math." Civics is a distinct topic and still exists most places as a stand-alone class, but it is one that is often shorter >