Religion is poison. Nothing wrong with faith in something more powerful then yourself but there’s plenty of things that actually exist to put that faith in. Especially when the thing you’ve chosen to put that faith in somehow dictates to you that everyone who doesn’t believe in your imaginary friend is out to get you and ruin your way of life
Don't bother. They're not listening. They're all too busy trying to pray to their imaginary friend to kill the gays and liberals and put their orange emperor Trump back in office.
Some people don't get, that you cannot say, that you respect someone's freedom of religion, when their religion tells, them, that Gods wants them to enforce their will upon others. If forcing your dogmas on others is a tenet of your religion, fuck your religion, you cannot have it. Either the tolerant Christians finally convince you to change your ways or Christianity must be banned.
If you gotta literally legalize "thoughtcrimes" to clamp down on it, then yes, it's evil and you can't do it. Religion exists only to amass political power and wealth, but you can go peddle your totalitarian dictatorship elsewhere because that's not goddamn better.
The heart of the point is that the only way they are able to practice their own beliefs is to let others do the same…. Otherwise you get state-sponsored religion, which was WHY WE MADE A NEW COUNTRY. Therefore, forcing your belief into others is fundamentally un-American.
White Christian nationalists see it differently. They believe the US was given to them as a Christian nation that will have a special place in history. They believe anyone who isn’t straight, white and Christian is their enemy. Nothing else matters to them. Not the constitution or US law and certainty not what the Bible actually says.
As an addictions counselor, I’ve found the most common underlying addiction to them all is co-dependence- one of its main ideas is that “I know better than you, and you should do what I say”. It’s like playing god- but instead of doing the inner work required to unhook from that, it’s now these people making laws for everyone.
So so many countries do. An example is polygamy. It is illegal in many parts of Europe because it is a sin for Christians so it became part of the laws early on since Christianity was the dominant religion for hundreds of years and it was never changed
Uh, America doesn’t have have sort of special lease on Christianity. It’s a worldwide religion, unfortunately. That stupidity is everywhere in all sorts of guises.
It's heavy duty in the south. We have political leaders constantly trying to put in Y'all Qaeda laws that are literally against the constitution and bill of rights, but they don't care.
We have it here in Canada. The Bible Belt is thick here, and they’re absolutely insane, every last one of them. When Trump was elected, pretty sure they thought he was the reincarnation of Christ. Still do, actually.
Check European history. Y'all Queda is a pale imitation of the likes of Torquemada's Inquisition... or the many other extremist movements from Europe. And as bad as televangelists are, they're not quite in the same camp as the kings who declared themselves heads of their nation's churches and confiscated all the church properties in the name of the crown.
Yes, but it's a pale imitation of the evil of yesteryear... er, yestercentury. Is it bad, yes. But at least it's better than it was. So we've got that much going for us, at least. Which is nice.
The more moderate believers are leaving. Which concentrates the fanatics with each other. So they keep elevating their fanaticism to new and bizarre levels to earn the most gawd points
DaisyfromDownunder
The bonus is it doesn't even prohibit you.
tarkus10
Thought for the day. Nice.
AmeliaTheDragon
Religion is poison. Nothing wrong with faith in something more powerful then yourself but there’s plenty of things that actually exist to put that faith in. Especially when the thing you’ve chosen to put that faith in somehow dictates to you that everyone who doesn’t believe in your imaginary friend is out to get you and ruin your way of life
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IWasACatAllAlong
Imagine giving yourself cute little rules when you could live a life of delicious depravity.
astrangehop
Eh, you can turn being contrarian up to eleven if you wish, but imho the religious don't get a monopoly on moderation or asceticism either.
CorgisButtsDriveMeNuts
And it prohibits you only if you're dumb and/or brainwashed enough to accept that.
Jolykj
Please read up on the crises in Denmark regarding burning religious books...
BoneyBaby
Say it loud for those in the back.
unluckyandbored
Don't bother. They're not listening. They're all too busy trying to pray to their imaginary friend to kill the gays and liberals and put their orange emperor Trump back in office.
Usainbold
meowingintensifies
If religious people could read, they'd be very upset!
Royoffinland
If religious people get freedom to their beliefs, I want freedom From their beliefs.
drowscion
“This is why I want the law to prohibit you, though”
Slimewire
YES! The US seems to struggle with the freedom from vs the freedom to
McMasterx
It's in the Bill of Rights, the people it should apply to just ignore it all the time. The First Amendment guarantees the From before the Of.
Maraxus
Some people don't get, that you cannot say, that you respect someone's freedom of religion, when their religion tells, them, that Gods wants them to enforce their will upon others. If forcing your dogmas on others is a tenet of your religion, fuck your religion, you cannot have it. Either the tolerant Christians finally convince you to change your ways or Christianity must be banned.
Nightchime
If logic swayed them, they wouldn't be religious. They're determined to stay religious so they can hate people during the day and sleep at night.
HelloThere1812
Freedom of religion needs to be changed to freedom FROM religion in an amendment. Outlaw all religions.
DisgruntledFerret
That would require an evil police state to do. The first amendment outlaws all religions - from being part of the government. That's enough.
HelloThere1812
You think freeing people from cults is "evil"? And yes, ALL religions are cults. Belief in nonsense is insane.
DisgruntledFerret
If you gotta literally legalize "thoughtcrimes" to clamp down on it, then yes, it's evil and you can't do it. Religion exists only to amass political power and wealth, but you can go peddle your totalitarian dictatorship elsewhere because that's not goddamn better.
WolfRamX4
Except for all the ones that direct their followers to persecute 'non believers', which are the problem.
chronicsnake
Their afterlife is crowded, so they have to do extra to get in. Extra unfortunately includes “spreading the word” , converting and the like .
ScaredSpitless
The heart of the point is that the only way they are able to practice their own beliefs is to let others do the same…. Otherwise you get state-sponsored religion, which was WHY WE MADE A NEW COUNTRY. Therefore, forcing your belief into others is fundamentally un-American.
KamikazeGerbil101
KleptoKea
A concept Americans still grapple with in their backward country.
iamonlyhereforsensiblechuckles
As a follower of Christ, I agree.
AngryBill
Its about influence, power and control over others
NoGunsNoCats
Wanna see a talking snake?
EllisHobbs
SleepyHollowAppleTree
TheWombatStrikesAgain
"So... we're meeting again with the same book-of-the-week for the 1,405th time in a row. Has anyone actually read it by now?"
AsheLake
Everyone who reads it quits.
Zetor
Religious nuts:
AdmiralJohn
You have the right to read your Bible/Torah/Qoran. You don't have the right to read it to me.
XXXSpork
White Christian nationalists see it differently. They believe the US was given to them as a Christian nation that will have a special place in history. They believe anyone who isn’t straight, white and Christian is their enemy. Nothing else matters to them. Not the constitution or US law and certainty not what the Bible actually says.
TalkingSnake
jltough19
I always up vote this!
MasterMookie
"If someone doesn't believe what I do. There is a possibility of me being wrong. And I can't be wrong" - Dumbass Christians.
NateintheNorth
I have a sneaking suspicion it's not about religion at all, but power. Always has been?
Marokh
Always has been.
shorey66
Always upvote this lass.
molotovity
Anna Kasparian - The Young Turks. Check them out for unbiased political news coverage
RobberBaronsBad
Unbiased? No. Less biased? Sure.
expectnothingstillletdown
Look, I'm a hardcore leftist, but in no way is young turks unbiased. Just because they're technically on my side doesn't mean they don't suck.
Undercovermango
Eh, she has turned into a terf and has at least l once that I know of spewed Russian propaganda. They used to be a great news source.
InTangier
Was going to say this. Weird hill to die on, and Idk why she would go that way, but here we are.
arthlvias
Wow, shame
pickledpete1337
Americans struggle with this concept.
luxter7
Change American’s to human’s and ok
urshface8008
As an addictions counselor, I’ve found the most common underlying addiction to them all is co-dependence- one of its main ideas is that “I know better than you, and you should do what I say”. It’s like playing god- but instead of doing the inner work required to unhook from that, it’s now these people making laws for everyone.
NutOutrageous
Muslims struggle with this concept all over the world.
Samoela
Yep...they struggle so hard.
Toffeeaccident
Americans struggle in general.
getadogupya
They're not alone.
ShoggothTree
And Afghans, and Irish, and Iranians, and Saudis, and Haitians, and Israelis, and ...
Marokh
So so many countries do. An example is polygamy. It is illegal in many parts of Europe because it is a sin for Christians so it became part of the laws early on since Christianity was the dominant religion for hundreds of years and it was never changed
ericbres1337
*Half the world struggles with this concept. And, quite frankly, it’s about time that mentality changed.
DigitalPizza
It was about time for that mentality to change 3500 years ago.
Samoela
Life could be so much easier if the world understand that
mcglirkymeow
Uh, America doesn’t have have sort of special lease on Christianity. It’s a worldwide religion, unfortunately. That stupidity is everywhere in all sorts of guises.
omagouch
It's heavy duty in the south. We have political leaders constantly trying to put in Y'all Qaeda laws that are literally against the constitution and bill of rights, but they don't care.
mcglirkymeow
We have it here in Canada. The Bible Belt is thick here, and they’re absolutely insane, every last one of them. When Trump was elected, pretty sure they thought he was the reincarnation of Christ. Still do, actually.
ArkoneAxon
Check European history. Y'all Queda is a pale imitation of the likes of Torquemada's Inquisition... or the many other extremist movements from Europe. And as bad as televangelists are, they're not quite in the same camp as the kings who declared themselves heads of their nation's churches and confiscated all the church properties in the name of the crown.
omagouch
Yeah true, but I'm more referring to the modern era. It's all evil and is a constant struggle to fight against.
ArkoneAxon
Yes, but it's a pale imitation of the evil of yesteryear... er, yestercentury. Is it bad, yes. But at least it's better than it was. So we've got that much going for us, at least. Which is nice.
Mrpipboy3000
Not all of us ... in fact, less and less of us every day ... https://www.npr.org/2023/05/16/1176206568/less-important-religion-in-lives-of-americans-shrinking-report
LariCheltsy
Thank God!
Mrpipboy3000
Thank ... who?
Marokh
Instead people start to believe in cults like Trump. Not sure if that's better :x
Mrpipboy3000
No, those people think Trump is a prophet of their god. They are doubling down.
DorgEndo
The more moderate believers are leaving. Which concentrates the fanatics with each other. So they keep elevating their fanaticism to new and bizarre levels to earn the most gawd points