Not sure why he's so worried. We literally have pictures and first hand accounts of cheetolini assaulting underage girls and no justice happens. He will be fine.
Makes sense. Epstein took donations from the ultra-wealthy and he made himself out to be like any other philanthropist. It's not like he'd invite people to his island and say "this is the island where I traffic and rape children." He probably paraded the "barely legal" ones out and anyone who showed interest would be approached with "if you like that, I have more I can show you." I could totally see Gates being there, seeing these girls, and assuming they're just hired actresses.
That was my thought about it. Probably employed 'models' at his less sex-party parties who he had been trafficking and there'd no way to know they were victims at the time. It's not like models/actresses wear a sign around their neck pointing out they're active victims of sex abuse or trafficking.
If i go over to someone's house that i suspect is beating their partner but it never happens around me and I cant prove it then the above statement can be true
Yeah actually, that's how that works. If the only 'evidence' you have that a thing is happening is your feelings then it's a safe bet that it's not happening. There is, and has been, plenty of evidence of Epstein's and his co-conspirators evil for years and years now.
He speaks a big game but the fact that he still has billions of dollars proves its nothing but lip service. Sure he spends a bunch doing good, but its only so that people will come to his defense. There are no moral billionaires. He will do whatever he can to keep his status.
His philanthropy isn't actually about doing good, it's about exerting a massive amount of global power and influence. Also, his charity is notorious for spending money at businesses he owns.
That’s way more than anyone else has fessed up to, but also if memory serves, the only people in “the files” to testify so far has been himself and the Clintons. Either way, I want all of them to burn
there is 0 way Bill Clinton testified to the full extent of his knowledge. There is noting about that man which has me convinced he didn't rape kids on that island
Yeah, I’m not convinced either. He and Trump are far too buddy buddy… I believe they are both swine. I also believe the trafficking is still happening. Look at Ivanka and Jared and their newfound island. She’s DEFINITELY been groomed, who knows what she and her brothers are into… but even if it’s not them, it is people in power.
Yep, and none of them have been accused of anything by any of Epstein's victims that have come forward. Do I think that makes them good people? No, but there's an ocean between being a bad person and being Epstein Level Evil.
We don’t know what’s been said in private to Congress, nor do we know if the victims are willing to name people in power. That’s the thing. I don’t know that I’d have the guts to name Bill Gates or any POTUS! Look at all the “accidents” and “suicides” that have happened to survivors. Even the ones that have publicly stated, “I’m not suicidal”, have supposedly committed suicide and there is no investigation. Everyone thinks Epstein was killed too. It’s sickening; there are no investigations!
No, we don't, but the absence of evidence is not evidence. What we DO know, is that none of Epstein's accusers have named Gates, and the ONLY Epstein accuser to mention Clinton said he was a perfect gentleman for the 30 minutes she saw him at all.
If Bill Gates was worth a damn and didn't partake he'd be truly outraged and demand justice instead of slinking around like a guilty sack of shit coward.
He has called for the full release of the files and a complete investigation. Doesn't make him a good guy, but he certainly isn't trying to make things worse.
(...I mean... in the first example, both actions are the things you're supposed to be doing TOGETHER, making it seem like an idiotic claim. In yours, NEITHER is a thing you should be doing... So the comment kind of makes no sense. 😅🤦♂️)
(Like, I'm sure there's plenty of pedophiles (hopefully in prison...) who'd be like "and then they did WHAT with them?!? WTF?!", lol. The two are not commonly related, is all I'm saying. 👍)
The problem is that Epstein portrayed himself as a philanthropist. The face he'd show to one group was not the face he'd show to others. Only the victims can verify who were the perpetrators and who were not.
Which is why I say that being in Epstein's list doesn't make you automatically guilty, it does provide a good place to start looking. We just need to figure out who went there to network, and who went for the "special."
He admitted to cheating on her with woman of age he met through epstien. That could be enough for a divorce. I am not saying his hands are necessarily clean. But it is plausible epstien also have of age women to offer.
Yeah and he was propositioning employees at work. That and the cheating would be enough for a divorce for a lot of women. She also didn't like that he was spending time with Epstein, which tells me they both knew something about him. Whether Bill was a client of his or not, who knows, that's not enough info to say. He's definitely a scumbag sexual harasser though.
Somewhat relatedly, I saw a picture of Stephen Hawking with some of the victims (nothing lewd, but still highly questionable). I am hoping he isn't guilty of participating in abuse, but it's hard to explain a photo like that.
He was surrounded by caretakers. I'm not saying kidnapping him is impossible, but it seems less likely than a less convoluted reason (e.g., of his own free will). What would have prevented him from speaking up about having been kidnapped and wheeled out there?
disabled his talker. it's... not... typing... what... i... tell... it... to... (unfortunately Epstine was weirdly into genetics shit so won't be surprised to one day learn they sperm jacked him)
Which would prompt investigation from his carers, who would have had intimately close working relationships with Mr. Hawking. (As a carer, this is how good carers go, and Hawking would have had some bloody great ones.) Again, not impossible, but so convoluted that the more likely answer is one that disappoints us.
i mean there is something tho that i guess. obviosly Epstein did enjoy inviting popular/famous people for whatever reason. i dont think everybody that got invited did know about all of those things. maybe tjey just had business reasons. i dont even know what epstein actually did for a living.
He’s a billionaire that’s reason enough to deserve the guillotine. Even if he wasn’t involved in those crimes, doesn’t mean he’s innocent. If any of these people were seeing any consequences for their actions then maybe it would matter.
I hate having to defend the guy, but Epstein wasn't an idiot. I can't imagine he'd just walk up to people and ask "hey, wanna go to my pedophile rape island?" He'd have to test the people. Bring around girls in barely there outfits. Have some of them on the younger side. See whether or not the the person looks uncomfortable or seems into it.
TLDR he manage large amounts of money for rich people, and prior to his fall he was one of the biggest single names in the business. From what i understand almost everyone with significant amounts of money was either letting him manage it, or wanted him to. He basically had valid reasons to rub shoulder with nearly every celebrity, c-suit executive, or politician on the planet. It indirectly makes even the innocent want to lie about their dealings with him.
From what I've read, Bill Gates cheated on his wife and Epstein supplied him under-the-counter STD medication. So, accurate but possibly not for the implied reason.
So gates did witness some of his crime, and in fact, participated in some of it. It is crazily illegal to give people drugs without their knowledge and consent.
Why is this being downvoted? It is almost for sure true. No one went to that island, posed with underage girls multiple times and not had some idea of what was going on, as well as "dipping into the cookie jar". I am sure he was a STRONG man that could say no to easy sex.
"In the 2013 messages, Epstein claims he helped Gates secure medication to treat a sexually transmitted infection from “sex with Russian girls.” Epstein also said Gates wanted to secretly give that medication to French Gates." The article does then say that Gates denies this, so I'm not sure either way.
That makes no sense. Bill Gates has access to medical professionals who are more tightlipped that the late queen during a coal heap collapse. Those doctors would treat it with utter confidence, and there would be no need to resort to some strange weird dude. The story does not make sense and it doesn't hold up.
bull. one of the richest men in the world doesn't need a buddy for itchy dick. he can fly in doctor and get a scrippy that he fills in Europe. There had to be more.
Epstein was super good at blackmailing and manipulating people. I've worked with enough rich people to know they are just people who do things in the easiest possible way. All Epstein had to do was manufacture a reason to not go through any regular channels ("they require telling your assistant... do you trust them?") and then to use him instead by saying "I have meds at the island, fly in, we will eat a child's entrails, and ill get some meds to you and tell you how to dose Melinda"
he quite literally can pay out of pocket for the most private medical care anywhere on earth with a team of accountants to burry the expense in some obscure account. I doubt his wife casually reviewed transaction lines over coffee each morning
Sorry, I think I buried the lead with my comment. The reason he went to Epstein for the STD medication was because the medication was for Gates' WIFE. The article I read was implying Gates and Epstein were trying to slip her STD medication without explaining the cheating to her, since there was a possibility of Gates being a vector to her. No good doctor would sign off on giving somebody medicine without their consent. It's also a VERY good reason for a divorce.
a person gets medication like that when they are embarrassed to talk with their Dr they became friends with over the years. HIPPA aside, Bill Gates was likely named in something called a "Key Man" clause at MS. This means that his primary GP goes to his house and performs a physical to ensure the Key Man is healthy. I'll bet he became friends with his Dr (that wasn't a pedo) over the years so he had go to to another source that doesn't ask questions.
Probably easier to hide having gotten it at all when it was obtained through Epstein instead of the personal doctor / assistants, which his wife also likely has access to. Especially since rich people really love have more exclusive doctors with fewer patients total it might be more likely to gossip between them, or the doctor having a moral obligation to tell the wife to get checked herself.
He probably could, but getting it from Epstein was probably the easiest and most discrete solution. I’m sure that Epstein had a full pharmacy for that kind of diseases.
That kinda depends on a variety of factors. There might not be anything legally prohibiting him from getting prescription treatment, but there might be legal/contractual aspects that make him really, *really* not want to get treated "in public" like that. For example, an STD could be taken as proof of infidelity and trigger sections of a prenuptial agreement, and if circumstances forced the involved doctor(s) to report to his wife under local/state STD laws would force the issue. That's also ->
not getting into just how good/bad a person is at handling whatever stresses are involved in the area where they just made a significantly stupid decision. Getting told your merger with X company is falling apart can hit different people easier/harder than getting told you've got Y disease. For that matter I suspect many people are going to freak out more over contracting HIV than some other incurable and ultimately fatal diseases like some forms of cancer due to the social aspects.
Given the activities taking place on the island, they probably kept a decent stock of the meds on hand all the time. So Gates didn't have to do anything. Epstein just said, here take some of these, I've got plenty
I’m with you. I’m not buying it. If he’s innocent in all this horrific shit, he should be putting his resources behind getting the release of unredacted files - which would clear his name.
Might clear him of *some* things. It might also implicate him or prove his guilt on other things nobody has associated him with yet. From his lawyer's perspective it's probably better for some people to think he was involved with Epstein and CSAM than for many people to know, for example, that tortured horses before using a cattle prod to shock them to death while on Epstein's island.
dingybasement350
"I was only on Epstein Island to get directions for how to get away from Epstein Island."
Bundalicious
He is gonna save the planet somedsy
clonedeeznuts
Not sure why he's so worried. We literally have pictures and first hand accounts of cheetolini assaulting underage girls and no justice happens. He will be fine.
GuitarGeorge
He didn’t witness Jeffery because he was distracted by his own crimes.
ispendtomuchtimehere
can we just see the fucking truth now..NOW?
orp0piru
vote - it's either the ballot or the bullet that will change things.
Flareside
I don't care, release the unredacted files and then impartial judgement of the people listed in them.
kaijuuGold
thats some dumb shit
InfocalypseRising
"I got the STD from a toilet seat."
apoliticalpanda
''and my wife divorced me cause I was too busy with work''
afterdarkart
Bill Gates has been a rotten POS since he was 15.
Thorketil
What did he do when he was 15?
DdCno1
Hack into his school's computer so that he was the only boy in classes with girls.
ShearingBlizzard
We need to do better
Lavibot
He thought the 12 year olds were the baby sitters
CorgisButtsDriveMeNuts
Yeah man, you go to those disgusting "parties" for chill atmosphere and free drinks.
gobbin
Chop his fuckin' dick off.
FloridaGatorMan
He was just there for the snorkeling.
TheFullLength
https://media3.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPWE1NzM3M2U1bnhzNWtuMDA3ZjZ1ZTd6ZjVoa25zaGpvbmZteDhpaXR6eG5xNnZmdCZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/yvZYRSakbT6wh5sKDf/200w.webp
notreallyaclevername
Makes sense. Epstein took donations from the ultra-wealthy and he made himself out to be like any other philanthropist. It's not like he'd invite people to his island and say "this is the island where I traffic and rape children." He probably paraded the "barely legal" ones out and anyone who showed interest would be approached with "if you like that, I have more I can show you." I could totally see Gates being there, seeing these girls, and assuming they're just hired actresses.
LupusLilium
That was my thought about it. Probably employed 'models' at his less sex-party parties who he had been trafficking and there'd no way to know they were victims at the time. It's not like models/actresses wear a sign around their neck pointing out they're active victims of sex abuse or trafficking.
Kilo11
If i go over to someone's house that i suspect is beating their partner but it never happens around me and I cant prove it then the above statement can be true
AdmiralButtStuff
Yeah actually, that's how that works. If the only 'evidence' you have that a thing is happening is your feelings then it's a safe bet that it's not happening. There is, and has been, plenty of evidence of Epstein's and his co-conspirators evil for years and years now.
Kilo11
Im not defending Bill im only saying his statement can be factual
Bojovnik84
Bill,we clearly don't punish billionaires and you've been divorced, so just spill the beans without it being in a fucking book.
Puppies717
Correction, we don't punish conservative billionaires who Confess.
HandsomePenguin
He speaks a big game but the fact that he still has billions of dollars proves its nothing but lip service. Sure he spends a bunch doing good, but its only so that people will come to his defense. There are no moral billionaires. He will do whatever he can to keep his status.
DdCno1
His philanthropy isn't actually about doing good, it's about exerting a massive amount of global power and influence. Also, his charity is notorious for spending money at businesses he owns.
HandsomePenguin
Yeah I should have put quotes around the word "good".
PolyTheWicked
They’re all pieces of shit.
Necrothean
"People Who Knew Epstein Say They Never Knew About Victims"
"Well, Maybe A Little"
"Well, OK, I Ate There Once"
"And Maybe A Twelve Year Old Served Me Wine"
"And Had Sex With Someone While I Watched In A Gimp Mask, But Only Once!!"
A series of headlines you can expect when dealing with literally anyone found in the Files so far.
symmetry7
We've already got Gates on Windows 8. Convict and move on.
RhinocerosLipGloss
Pam Bondi could and would claim the same…
thegoodowl
That’s way more than anyone else has fessed up to, but also if memory serves, the only people in “the files” to testify so far has been himself and the Clintons. Either way, I want all of them to burn
SarcasticComment
there is 0 way Bill Clinton testified to the full extent of his knowledge. There is noting about that man which has me convinced he didn't rape kids on that island
OneOfTheEnemiesWithin
Yeah, I’m not convinced either. He and Trump are far too buddy buddy… I believe they are both swine. I also believe the trafficking is still happening. Look at Ivanka and Jared and their newfound island. She’s DEFINITELY been groomed, who knows what she and her brothers are into… but even if it’s not them, it is people in power.
AdmiralButtStuff
Yep, and none of them have been accused of anything by any of Epstein's victims that have come forward. Do I think that makes them good people? No, but there's an ocean between being a bad person and being Epstein Level Evil.
OneOfTheEnemiesWithin
We don’t know what’s been said in private to Congress, nor do we know if the victims are willing to name people in power. That’s the thing. I don’t know that I’d have the guts to name Bill Gates or any POTUS! Look at all the “accidents” and “suicides” that have happened to survivors. Even the ones that have publicly stated, “I’m not suicidal”, have supposedly committed suicide and there is no investigation. Everyone thinks Epstein was killed too. It’s sickening; there are no investigations!
AdmiralButtStuff
No, we don't, but the absence of evidence is not evidence. What we DO know, is that none of Epstein's accusers have named Gates, and the ONLY Epstein accuser to mention Clinton said he was a perfect gentleman for the 30 minutes she saw him at all.
Becker37
If Bill Gates was worth a damn and didn't partake he'd be truly outraged and demand justice instead of slinking around like a guilty sack of shit coward.
TaiPan87
He has called for the full release of the files and a complete investigation.
Doesn't make him a good guy, but he certainly isn't trying to make things worse.
flarflarf
by "may have been in the presence of" he means "caught gonorrhea from"
Iamtrebek
In Virginia Giuffre’s book, she describes giving Gates a foot massage and that’s it. I’m not sure what the other survivors have said.
DdCno1
I wonder what those who didn't survive would have said.
SarcasticComment
so you maybe saw children there in the capacity of sex work and said nothing?
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SarcasticComment
human trafficking is a crime even when they aren't kids on billionaire fuck island
SarcasticComment
but now I'm muting this 285 account defending billionaire sex pests on rape island
SvenSkullhammer
To his teeny-tiny credit, weren’t the Russian hookers he supposedly caught the clap from at least adults themselves?
WhyDontYouMakeMe
Yeah, the big scandal from that was that he was trying to dose his wife in secret so she didn't realize he gave her an STI
jamiedBreaker
Im sorry what? Bill gates?
DdCno1
He's never been a good person.
jamiedBreaker
Jesus. I never thought he was a saint but I thought he was more benign than that. That's sinister.
chefsoda
I’m pretty certain, yes. If they had been underage, it would have been a very different scale of scandal, and rightfully so
isthisjunkmail
“I puffed, but I didn’t inhale…”
SheepySleepySmuggler
"I had my head buried in a young ladies schmoo so was unable to see clearly"
cyclone0619
QuatermainFT
exactly what came to my mind reading it
SixSixxtySix
“I fucked kids but I didn’t eat them”
leechdemon
(...I mean... in the first example, both actions are the things you're supposed to be doing TOGETHER, making it seem like an idiotic claim. In yours, NEITHER is a thing you should be doing... So the comment kind of makes no sense. 😅🤦♂️)
(Like, I'm sure there's plenty of pedophiles (hopefully in prison...) who'd be like "and then they did WHAT with them?!? WTF?!", lol. The two are not commonly related, is all I'm saying. 👍)
LuLuPennyAndOdium44
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperbole
HenryLongfellowIII
I may have chewed a bit but I didn't swallow.
JasonWaterfaIIs
I swallow a teensy but but regurgitated it later.
Andunistar
Oh right, the aleged cannibalism, jfk reality is poisen.
intaglioguy
The problem is that Epstein portrayed himself as a philanthropist. The face he'd show to one group was not the face he'd show to others. Only the victims can verify who were the perpetrators and who were not.
firlefranz
The face you put on when you're still mentally run Windows 95
Toqom
He stole an operating system that was going to be released free, he's a fraud like the other billionaires.
laurapede83
Yeah, I'm pretty sure when I went to cop heroin there were crackheads around. I just didn't care at the time, I was getting what I needed.
Imadethisaccounttopost
Which is why I say that being in Epstein's list doesn't make you automatically guilty, it does provide a good place to start looking.
We just need to figure out who went there to network, and who went for the "special."
PorneliusHubertII
We know that Billy boy was a client of Epstein's sexual services. I take anything he says with a metric ton of salt.
rezpawner
A full-on rapist, you say?
awkungen42
If your email says you were going to the island "for candy" you're guilty in my mind and should probably be put down.
TexMexHex
https://media1.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPWE1NzM3M2U1MHRnM3U5cWttc3FiZWN1bzM5aHg4NzN5cjF6eng1bzVzMXp5a21mZyZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/5QNQv6xmVEaabGsYrg/200w.webp
MauroMolinero
thats a copeout. people that went to the island most likely saw horrendous shit and kept quiet.
Exyr
His ex wife probably has a pretty good idea of what he was up to? Probably why she's an ex.
Kinkan83
Prob under nda now
DdCno1
NDAs do not prohibit you from revealing illegal acts.
Isthe4thtimethecharm
He admitted to cheating on her with woman of age he met through epstien. That could be enough for a divorce. I am not saying his hands are necessarily clean. But it is plausible epstien also have of age women to offer.
aap71
I think he met the gf at work?
InkyBlinkyPinkyAndClyde
Yeah and he was propositioning employees at work. That and the cheating would be enough for a divorce for a lot of women. She also didn't like that he was spending time with Epstein, which tells me they both knew something about him. Whether Bill was a client of his or not, who knows, that's not enough info to say. He's definitely a scumbag sexual harasser though.
TheMindEntropic
Somewhat relatedly, I saw a picture of Stephen Hawking with some of the victims (nothing lewd, but still highly questionable). I am hoping he isn't guilty of participating in abuse, but it's hard to explain a photo like that.
SarcasticComment
in hawking defenses. how do we know he wasn't kidnapped and wheeled out there
TheMindEntropic
He was surrounded by caretakers. I'm not saying kidnapping him is impossible, but it seems less likely than a less convoluted reason (e.g., of his own free will). What would have prevented him from speaking up about having been kidnapped and wheeled out there?
SarcasticComment
disabled his talker. it's... not... typing... what... i... tell... it... to... (unfortunately Epstine was weirdly into genetics shit so won't be surprised to one day learn they sperm jacked him)
TheMindEntropic
Which would prompt investigation from his carers, who would have had intimately close working relationships with Mr. Hawking. (As a carer, this is how good carers go, and Hawking would have had some bloody great ones.) Again, not impossible, but so convoluted that the more likely answer is one that disappoints us.
michBeast
i mean there is something tho that i guess. obviosly Epstein did enjoy inviting popular/famous people for whatever reason. i dont think everybody that got invited did know about all of those things. maybe tjey just had business reasons. i dont even know what epstein actually did for a living.
Trankia12
He’s a billionaire that’s reason enough to deserve the guillotine. Even if he wasn’t involved in those crimes, doesn’t mean he’s innocent. If any of these people were seeing any consequences for their actions then maybe it would matter.
Mikeiller
I hate having to defend the guy, but Epstein wasn't an idiot. I can't imagine he'd just walk up to people and ask "hey, wanna go to my pedophile rape island?" He'd have to test the people. Bring around girls in barely there outfits. Have some of them on the younger side. See whether or not the the person looks uncomfortable or seems into it.
Imadethisaccounttopost
He invited anyone who was famous or rich past a certain threshold, except Elon Musk.
Which is fucking hilarious.
TheVampireDante
Imagine seeing one of the worst people to exist looking at elon and going "eww, no".
Imadethisaccounttopost
Apparently, even evil has standards.
Carl99
TLDR he manage large amounts of money for rich people, and prior to his fall he was one of the biggest single names in the business. From what i understand almost everyone with significant amounts of money was either letting him manage it, or wanted him to. He basically had valid reasons to rub shoulder with nearly every celebrity, c-suit executive, or politician on the planet. It indirectly makes even the innocent want to lie about their dealings with him.
Carl99
To quote an old TV show:
"The innocent lie because they don't want to be blamed for somthing they didn't do. The guilty lie because they have no choice"
redditmcredditface
Bill Gates lost his wife because his links to Jeffrey Epstein. I believe her over him any day.
frozenchicken
From what I've read, Bill Gates cheated on his wife and Epstein supplied him under-the-counter STD medication. So, accurate but possibly not for the implied reason.
yqpqfrdp625772
So gates did witness some of his crime, and in fact, participated in some of it. It is crazily illegal to give people drugs without their knowledge and consent.
ROGUEdenied
Why is this being downvoted? It is almost for sure true. No one went to that island, posed with underage girls multiple times and not had some idea of what was going on, as well as "dipping into the cookie jar". I am sure he was a STRONG man that could say no to easy sex.
justheretocommentonce
Reference needed.
frozenchicken
https://www.kuow.org/stories/bill-gates-suspects-epstein-tried-to-blackmail-him-newly-released-testimony-transcript-shows
There's others, this was just what I dug up with a few seconds googling.
"In the 2013 messages, Epstein claims he helped Gates secure medication to treat a sexually transmitted infection from “sex with Russian girls.” Epstein also said Gates wanted to secretly give that medication to French Gates."
The article does then say that Gates denies this, so I'm not sure either way.
justheretocommentonce
That makes no sense. Bill Gates has access to medical professionals who are more tightlipped that the late queen during a coal heap collapse. Those doctors would treat it with utter confidence, and there would be no need to resort to some strange weird dude. The story does not make sense and it doesn't hold up.
SarcasticComment
bull. one of the richest men in the world doesn't need a buddy for itchy dick. he can fly in doctor and get a scrippy that he fills in Europe. There had to be more.
redditmcredditface
Epstein was super good at blackmailing and manipulating people. I've worked with enough rich people to know they are just people who do things in the easiest possible way. All Epstein had to do was manufacture a reason to not go through any regular channels ("they require telling your assistant... do you trust them?") and then to use him instead by saying "I have meds at the island, fly in, we will eat a child's entrails, and ill get some meds to you and tell you how to dose Melinda"
SarcasticComment
he quite literally can pay out of pocket for the most private medical care anywhere on earth with a team of accountants to burry the expense in some obscure account. I doubt his wife casually reviewed transaction lines over coffee each morning
frozenchicken
Sorry, I think I buried the lead with my comment. The reason he went to Epstein for the STD medication was because the medication was for Gates' WIFE. The article I read was implying Gates and Epstein were trying to slip her STD medication without explaining the cheating to her, since there was a possibility of Gates being a vector to her.
No good doctor would sign off on giving somebody medicine without their consent.
It's also a VERY good reason for a divorce.
DerpMeister
Because one of the richest mans in the world couldn't get STD medication from a legal source?
redditmcredditface
a person gets medication like that when they are embarrassed to talk with their Dr they became friends with over the years. HIPPA aside, Bill Gates was likely named in something called a "Key Man" clause at MS. This means that his primary GP goes to his house and performs a physical to ensure the Key Man is healthy. I'll bet he became friends with his Dr (that wasn't a pedo) over the years so he had go to to another source that doesn't ask questions.
JRSYJAY
It was that he couldn’t get it without record. Through rumpstein, there is no record.
leechdemon
Right? Or from an illegal source, using his own staff?
Plenty of reasons to dislike, but that feels like a manufactured one.
neithermenoryou
Probably easier to hide having gotten it at all when it was obtained through Epstein instead of the personal doctor / assistants, which his wife also likely has access to. Especially since rich people really love have more exclusive doctors with fewer patients total it might be more likely to gossip between them, or the doctor having a moral obligation to tell the wife to get checked herself.
ma8e
He probably could, but getting it from Epstein was probably the easiest and most discrete solution. I’m sure that Epstein had a full pharmacy for that kind of diseases.
Marikhen
That kinda depends on a variety of factors. There might not be anything legally prohibiting him from getting prescription treatment, but there might be legal/contractual aspects that make him really, *really* not want to get treated "in public" like that. For example, an STD could be taken as proof of infidelity and trigger sections of a prenuptial agreement, and if circumstances forced the involved doctor(s) to report to his wife under local/state STD laws would force the issue. That's also ->
Marikhen
not getting into just how good/bad a person is at handling whatever stresses are involved in the area where they just made a significantly stupid decision. Getting told your merger with X company is falling apart can hit different people easier/harder than getting told you've got Y disease. For that matter I suspect many people are going to freak out more over contracting HIV than some other incurable and ultimately fatal diseases like some forms of cancer due to the social aspects.
mastertmo
Given the activities taking place on the island, they probably kept a decent stock of the meds on hand all the time. So Gates didn't have to do anything. Epstein just said, here take some of these, I've got plenty
FestusMA
I’m with you. I’m not buying it. If he’s innocent in all this horrific shit, he should be putting his resources behind getting the release of unredacted files - which would clear his name.
StNickCage
Fucking this. Why hasn't this happened yet?
Marikhen
Might clear him of *some* things. It might also implicate him or prove his guilt on other things nobody has associated him with yet. From his lawyer's perspective it's probably better for some people to think he was involved with Epstein and CSAM than for many people to know, for example, that tortured horses before using a cattle prod to shock them to death while on Epstein's island.
bamblebimble
Not when his goal is to slip them into his wife's food so she doesnt find out she got infected from the person her husband fucked