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https://gizmodo.com/a-birth-control-pill-for-men-could-start-human-trials-t-1848685598
Happy baby snapper tax!
mrsdowneyjr
I wouldn't trust this to keep me from getting pregnant
squintish
The one where they put a temporary gelatin plug in the vas deferens seems promising.
DeepBlueNothing
I would have taken it when I was younger and more 'active'. Can never be too safe.
fromagewit
I have no issue with it, would be happy to take it. I saw the negative effects birth-control had on my ex.
bugcooper
Who needs a pill? I just make sure she pulls out so there are no eggs injected in my bootie-hole.
activeracer28
Wonder how many anti vaxers will be willing to take this but still not trust the vaccine?
DontcallmeLen
I sometimes forget to take my brain pills
ceraxis
Sign me THA FUUUUUUUCK up
DarthAndy
You put the pill in your shoe. It makes you limp. I'll get my coat.
TheRealBrebby
I mean as a dude I'm kinda happy about this. But it's anti hormonal, why can't this be created for women too? Being married, they have itbad
ColumbiaLSD
I’m going to be popping them like m&ms
kk4c
People think men don’t want this, but all of the young single men like me I know are excited. Gives me assurance birth control is used 1/
kk4c
And is a second or third layer of protection against unwanted pregnancy. I don’t know any men that don’t want this to be real
LordNergal
A lot of men do. It would make life easier. The problem has always been human biology. As we've found out the hard way, we don't know 1/
LordNergal
nearly as much about men's reproductive organs as we thought we did... and those are still far more studied than women's. 2/2
ReaperCDN
Without reading any of this I'm just here to say I think it's appalling that 1% of the trials ended with men-mice hybrid monsters.
OhMyGodWhoTheHellCaaares
Sign me right the fuck up to be a tester
truthsmiles
About time!
Buttholesandsewingneedles
jimfalconer611
WHY ARE MEN TRYING TO GET MICE PREGNANT?!?
reallynotmikepence
Have you seen those whiskers?
LupusLilium
Because they want more mousey women in the world? I'unno.
SaintCody
TLDR, but as a man, im on board and will take them until i get the balls to get my balls un-gotten.
smartblondesandsarcasm
I’m happy that family planning can be more equal, rather than women taking the brunt of responsibility.
ChaosSound
You Mean that it can be more equal and men have an equal say on if they want kids or not.
smartblondesandsarcasm
Uh…yeah? Just because I listed one reason I was happy about it doesn’t discount another
duktayp
How I'm supposed fit that pill in my pee hole
PhenTsoksar
Very carefully. If House can self-catheterize, you can surely stick a 10mm diameter pill up your urethra and rotate it in place like (1/
PhenTsoksar
an IUD. In fact, Knoxville and Steve-O will demonstrate that as a PSA in May
BreatheNostalgia
Fairemont
It was made for mice so it should be about the right size
PithyCommentBelow
Sir, it’s pronounced ANul jee zik. The pills go in your mouth.
BreatheNostalgia
KaleoM
Get a bigger hammer.
Crazywelderguy
While making this face
ThatQuietlySmirking
NSFW: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urethral_sounding
OkButWhyWereTheyFilming
If it wasn't a snug fit it wouldn't block the baby juice
PictureArchiver
Training, perseverance!
SlutAtNight
Same way that you fit the rods sheesh
RuricOrhlandis
You know they are called sounds because if inserted incorrectly you will make all kinds of sounds.
SlutAtNight
You’re not wrong
mrgti1983
Like loading a musket
beenpostingsince
Yours fires off smoke like that too?! Thank god I've found someone to talk to this about. Some women find it impressive, others, though...
mrgti1983
I think it's more just semen steam as I am so God damn hot.
Jewdakris
Texas has already made it illegal
grlwithnoname
laner7112000
I can't tell if your screwing around.
DanaConti5
Every sperm is sacred, y’all.
mikecaa
Had a girlfriend lie about birth control to try and get pregnant so I would not dump her. This is protection from that kind of thing.
SaladsWasteThyme
A female comedian said it needs to be in a form that will ensure men will take it. Contraceptive beer!
Norwegiansilverback
I'm a man, and I don't drink beer. I'd prefer it in a red wine.
Coexist2015
Same happened to me, horrible way to start a family.
whatsisname
It's also protection against people in healthy relationships that also just don't want to get pregnant. Not everything is a chess match.
beenpostingsince
Fine w/me, but I've seen stories that this is 'coming any day' and 'in trials now!' since I was about 13 or so. I'm 40 now. Wouldn't wait.
ChaosSound
They are still saying 5-10 years.
CompletelyUniqueUsername
Right after cold fusion.
RomanSnow
Yeah, it's a lot easier to deal with 1 egg than a few billion swimmers so rubbing into issues wouldn't surprise me.
ThePickliestRick
Sure, if the solution were purely mechanical and not chemically or anatomically based
CaptainSomebody
This seems like an entirely baseless statement...
ExquisiteConundrum
I think it was a thing for about 2.5 seconds. But dudes were crying about side effects. So they pulled it.
AnnekinEarthwalker
They pulled it ?
astrangehop
... so scientists? The scientists running the study?
YouHaveNoodsAndIHaveAnInbox
You mean when nearly 100% of the people in the study had debilitating side effects that didnt go away so they took it back to formula?
LupusLilium
Was that the one with bad/violent reaction to alcohol, which is why many would like a pill? Because alcohol makes you forget condoms often.
HeroicSheperd
Missed opportunity to say pulled out.
Keairan
At least one promising candidate had feminist groups opposing it because it gave control to men. It was weird af.
HarebrainedYeti
I believe that was a different medicine altogether, this one has far more promise.
mecalise
Piss off
ReconfigureTheCitrus
Well if by crying about side effects you mean suicidal depression then yeah.
toomuchpokemon
many female birth control pills has that too. and cancer risks etc.
ReconfigureTheCitrus
In addition to the % that someone else mentioned, it's suspected by some that if female birth control was made today it wouldn't pass either
LordNergal
It wouldn't. Neither would aspirin, for that matter.
YouHaveNoodsAndIHaveAnInbox
Yeah but its not 70% of the patients using it.
donsterkay
I'm all for this. Watch now as churches and their right wing supporters try to block it. They need to fuel mindsets.
isucpregrad
Pretty much all churches besides the Catholic Church support contraception. That generally goes for abortions in the case of rape or danger
isucpregrad
To the mother as well. https://www.americanprogress.org/article/the-morality-of-contraception/
isucpregrad
That’s not to saythe catholic church doesn’t have a very loud voice in the us, but I think it’s important to use actual statistics about
isucpregrad
Religion and social issues instead of creating straw man arguments. That way we can actually target the groups that really espouse these
isucpregrad
Ideas and seek to change them. Misrepresenting groups just makes them get defensive and less likely to join your cause in my experience
SmashySashimi
Nah, I’m betting they’ll let their hypocrisy run rampant if it ever becomes an option.
ThomasThundersword
“Abortion is a grave sin, even in the case of rape, if god did not want that child born the rapist would have been on the pill” i’m sure :/
BBQatCirces
"Since men do not have to suffer the consequences of pregnancy, the threshold for side effects from birth control pills is rather low" 1/
indigodragons
This is infuriating. We can get abortions. It’s not like we’re stuck with a baby. No excuse for women’s hbc to have bad side effects.
heyletsbefriends
18 years of financial and moral servitude is a consequence.
BBQatCirces
Yes, but 1) Those consequences apply to both parties and 2) I suspect they're talking about physical consequences.
ChaosSound
No they don't, one party gets to choose for both for a choice that was made with both, and if the man doesn't agree too bad.
BBQatCirces
Nah. Go spread your MRA bullshit elsewhere.
ChaosSound
Proove me wrong, in what country can a man OPT out of a pregnancy and face no financial responsibility if he doesn't agree in having a child
BBQatCirces
JFC this line... Heaven forbid that men should have to go through a fraction of what women have had to endure for the same result....2/2
Zaranthan
I think he was saying people won't put up with it, not that the research weighed it more heavily.
Hexagram54
Yeah I think so too, it’s depressing but true
BBQatCirces
Oh, I get that. I was more referring to men who don't bat an eye at what BC does to women, but demand that it doesn't happen to them.
LupusLilium
One could argue that's because BC has been around for a while, and while it has side effects it also is used for more than just BC. Should
LupusLilium
probably ask pharma companies why they seemingly haven't managed to cut down the side effects already despite many years.
N0MamesGuey
Now to find a woman willing to have unprotected sex with me.
SonrisaFlores
Hello there.
N0MamesGuey
ChaosSound
Hello there
AnotherBeardedCanadian
GENERAL KENOBI
SonrisaFlores
Your move.
DeKetsendeRechter
No, your move!
AnotherBeardedCanadian
xxoctavianxx
i just went the vasectomy route, an insurance co-pay and 30 minutes later i was done, 2 months later i was shooting blanks
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xxoctavianxx
did your tests back up the 10 loads theory?
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xxoctavianxx
since ive had one i know, and you still needs tests to verify there are no swimmers, i had a test after 1 month and then at 2 months
gablestout
Yup. Mine was 4-6 weeks and 10 rounds later. Apparently a fair number of people never go back to confirm and later find out the hard way
reallynotmikepence
I went that route too, but it turns out it just changes the color of the baby.
xxoctavianxx
DonaldFuck
I'm not even having sex...
OTBZaberisk
He beat the system.
EedDaPooPoo
I mean, he didn't say where he was shooting the blanks at.
StarSumiaki
Didn't we already have male BC but it had the same sort of side effects as female BC and people went all "oh well we can't have THAT"? [1/2]
ExquisiteConundrum
We sure did. ?
Axelxdisepic
No, this is a common myth. Side effects were drastically more serious. Please stop spreading the myth.
StarSumiaki
Happy to oblige. Happy another poster gave me a better source. NOT happy that NPR (my prior source) completely undersold the severity.
Axelxdisepic
It happens, I remember reading the original trial results forever ago and was like "holy fuck" before that I use to be the exact same way
whatsisname
No, the side effects were much worse.
RunanD
The above image literally says "The threshold for side effects is low because men don't suffer the consequences of pregnancy." yet people
RunanD
in these replies are desperate for some answer that would sound...less flakey, I guess? But reality is reality.
TmbgCheeseCreator
the image is taking about what you can get past a medical ethics board, not about what men would put up with for more options
StarSumiaki
like... https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2016/11/03/500549503/male-birth-control-study-killed-after-men-complain-about-side-effects
SilentZed
I am rather excited. Female birth control has some fairly awful side effects, so something much less impactful can be a win for couples
svedo
Im fine with the good ole condom. No side effects for anyone. If it dosnt feel good enough get some drugs or something
Kehy
I have to have hormonal BC to control cysts, but haven't really noticed any major effects. Period is as wild and unpredictable as before too
waitwuh
Yeah I take “birth control” for hormonal treatment purposes far more than contraceptive purposes too, but not everyone does.
M4Firefly
it also has some benefits - like period and acne control
SilentZed
They do - which is why having options as a couple is still a good thing, though I fully acknowledge that while female birth control 1)
SilentZed
can have some gnarly effects, it can also reduce the severity of some periods or things like acne. It's just nice to have more options on 2)
SilentZed
the table as a couple.
MankHoody
If it would end up being just as bad as female birth control, at least couples can decide who will cop it and suffer the side effects.
Sadpandathesad
Shit, both, just both. That's how bad I don't want kids. The gf us already on it. I'd just go on it too.
SilentZed
Definitely true, and especially so if either of them have health issues already. It's all around super great we may have the option soon.
starmasswarseffect
Exactly! The more options, the better
EEgirl
Though with any side effects it won't get approved - the criteria is biased. It is approved if taking the pill has less risk than not 1/2
EEgirl
taking the pill. For women, that is measured against pregnancy. For men... it's measured against... normal. 2/2
PirateRubberDuck
Which is what has held it back so long. Something must have changed.
PugDogMan
Don’t get too excited. There is an article on this about every year it seems… I remember reading about this as a freshman in college (2005)
Hellbat666
Im sure the side effects will be something similar. But for ppl who want an alternative to either pill, look up the “Testicle Bath”.. neat-o
PourMeAPuppersPlease
Awful side effects like children?
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TeaJustTea
If you're strongly against having kids, for whatever reason, & actively taking steps to avoid it then yes, falling pregnant may be awful.
DanCutter
Hahaha! Yes.
solopeace
I don’t understand why vasectomies aren’t more common, especially among those who don’t want kids.
textilelover
I told my hubs to cancel his appt when I read the potential side effects. And I personally know 3 guys who've suffered long-term discomfort
textilelover
I have 0 negative side effects from the pill so why take the risk?
vjmurph
Is it uncommon? I know a lot of people with vasectomies. Virtually every male in a committed relationship where they are done having kids.
upfr0mhere
Because it's invasive surgery on your genitalia which could permanently make you infertile, not even remotely comparable to the pill
solopeace
Well I don’t want kids so I don’t care how reversible it is or isn’t.
aslowgiantfart
So you’re saying you don’t understand why they’re not more common because you don’t care? Maybe with empathy you’d understand
solopeace
Fantastic failure at reading comprehension.
Thornaxe
Yup. Vasectomy reversal is expensive and only has ~50% success. Many times couples opt for IVF because it’s cheaper and more straightforward
xmsbeanx
My hubbys procedure took 20 min. & recovery took 3 days. I tried nearly every birth control on the market & always had bad side effects.
RideTheStimutacs
"Invasive" is a strong word. It's an extremely quick, minimal procedure, doesn't go inside, and they often use electric current instead.
Someshithead241
Probably the same reason women choose birth control instead of surgery.
internetuserr
A vasectomy is a lot less invasive and has less recovery time than getting your tubes tied. They aren’t equally comparable
Someshithead241
Didn't say they were. But the reasons people don't get them, are comparable and often the same.
vjmurph
It’s incredibly difficult for women to get sterilized. Tons of pushback from doctors. Much easier for men.
MoistTowelettez
Theres gonna be awful male side effects as well there's no going around that. A vasectomy is probably the best solution and freezing sperm.
erikna
Why do you think so?
Thornaxe
Because he’s never priced IVF.
SilentZed
I've been following the development of this for a while and it seems like the side effects may be far less severe, though we won't know 1)
SilentZed
more until it's been in use for quite a while, though I remain optimistic and hopeful. If it does end up being worse or just as bad, I'd 2)
eggDK
Even if it turns out to be just as bad, I am still all for it! Until we get these pills, we can't have true gender equality IMHO..
LordNergal
This has been the issue as to why all prior attempts failed; the side-effects were worse than women's birth control and often did 1/
SilentZed
agree though.
LordNergal
That was true of the last *checks* four attempts up until they hit human trials. The problem seems to be that results from animal 1/
daromander
The "non-hormonal" part gives hope the side effects will not be as bad
LordNergal
Here's hoping.
dezzy435
DIDJA READ IT?
MoistTowelettez
Did you? They literally said they are hopeful but sceptical as human trials are the real deciding factor.
LordNergal
It's been true of every attempt thus far. Male genitalia are apparently a LOT more fragile than female in this area? I need to see if 1/
LordNergal
there is some study that gives an explanation for this. 2/2
Finain
Or if you want to go around slinging that dick.
dspillett
That 99% success rate is for one year for the average male activity. If you are impressively slinging that dick being above average [1/?]
dspillett
activity could drag that 99% right down, then roll the few % change per year up and soon you are in risky territory. Better to snip. [2/2]
denimdenis
ObiWanKenobitch
Birth control doesn’t prevent std’s so please continue to wrap it on your dick slinging journeys!
AFistfulOfDollHairs
Or don’t, they’re a imgurian not a cop.
haveyouheardabouttheseinternetmemes
This is my only concern with the male pill. Will there be an std explosion in the wake of this?
Josieandthebeans
Yes, due to the lack of sex education in a lot of the USA/World.
LordNergal
73.9% certainty of it.
Shroomslapz
Skin to skin or don’t go in that’s what I always say.
AFistfulOfDollHairs
Your should say something else.
ObiWanKenobitch
Stds*
SchwiftyGameOnPoint
STI*
Frankmate
But… is warm
JCBalance
Butt is warm
ObiWanKenobitch
Then I’m sure you’ll love the burning sensation of stds.