Jul 5, 2021 1:06 AM
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NoQuestionMarksInDeclarativeSentences
Why yes, I do believe that most games are worse now. This is a huge reason.
drenix
I hate that XCOM doesnt have it's original launcher anymore, I dont care about the Firaxis launcher :/
BatmansUnderPantsAreSoSoft
It clearly states on the steam page that it'll require another launcher, stop supporting stupid shit
thesolamnus
Welp, when I initially bought Rocket League the company didnt shill out to Epic. Now I am not able to play without an Epic account. So...
finetoroastasimamarshmallow
I immediately ask for a refund and got it every time. Still annoying.
Estoyp00ping
GTA, I’m looking at you.
nopost
Looking at you, firaxis
IdiotSavantTinker
I tried to install GTAV off steam to see what all the fuss was about. After a four day download over my miserable slow DSL, the game 1/2
refused to work without Rockstar something or other club. So, I got a refund and gave "Rockstar launcher" as a reason.
imgurnaknockuout
Ya, I just uninstall
WolfRamX4
I've literally uninstalled and refunded games for doing this. I got steam because I dont want 30 different launchers on my computer.
SpoilsburyToastMan
Get GoG galaxy. One launcher to rule them all.
Voojagig
I got a free game because EA pulled this shit.
someonesaid
Titanfall 2 everybody says it's the new true Halo, but you have to use Origin. I tried 3 times in 2 months, each time there was a new error
Thehoffmiester
Trackmania....
MightyPandaBoy
also any game that uses a different launcher cant be family shared which is really frustrating
JustAGamerDreamin
Steam makes me so angry, its such intrusive DRM when it wants to be, which is increasingly often.
JohnMike64
Same bullshit as with streaming services. Stop making you own versions you shits! You all moan and Cry about piracy this is why morons.
xMisacatx
Worst for me was the free SW BF2 from Epic. Launches Origin, then bounces back to Epic. Deleted fast.
Cant even launch from Origin
PetCamperProject
now you have 3 different software suites, discord, twitch and 15 new online accounts
rookie23
Come on, play another game, let off some, steam. * it happens again
Sechran
Paradox tried this and, get this, the damn launcher's installation was broken! I'm not troubleshooting your pseudo malware BS! Refunded.
Grusnoid
I uninstalled every Paradox game I had because I was so pissed off that I couldn't use mods for HOI4, and it's all because of the launcher.
zrXO
Yep, hate it, they don't have it anymore right?
This was with this year's Steam Summer Sale - it's still a thing. A profoundly stupid, inexcusable thing.
kebbitevoke
The paradox launcher on hoi4 takes 10 minutes to fucking load. The old one they had for it only took 20 seconds to launch. Fucking BS.
adiving
Something else might be wrong, I hate the thing but it's a split second here. And I hardly have a massive pc.. (amd 1600)
Dunno man, I reinstalled the game fully a couple of times but it didnt help. The paradox launcher for EU4 fires up in around 20 seconds :/
Heh, It would kinda depend on your PC of course. But I would still consider 20 seconds long :P. Paradox/steam leaves a lot of content in >
> home folders (appdata on windows I think). Don't know how it works under windows, but under linux shader data can make a big impact >
TellusEidolon
Not really broken but literally hogs performance like it was chrome. One of the worst launchers I've seen.
Nope. Broken. Really broken. As in the installation of the launcher would not run without failing and erroring out.
SociallyAwkwardCanadianMoose
Yep
Never had that problem. Which paradox launcher did you use? I was talking mainly from experience with euiv launcher.
Whichever one they tried to package with Skylines. Looking for a new city sim game, and didn't want to deal with Origin. Oh fucking well!
Yeah, I can't get it to work even with their help
Ah. Haven't played that game yet.
ITellBadPuns
Just use GOG and avoid all that shit lol
anononanonanona
GOG is CDPR and they do this shit in Steam (at least for Cyberpunk 2077) so kinda... fuck them.
laughinggas
GOG cant buyoass third party launchers ? Warthunder/world of warplanes both launch their own shit snd you have to login into that?
A big utility is it closes the shit while exiting , i love that
v
iusedtodream
GOG?
fiddlewheelx
It's an inferno unit from homm3. It's fine as a early ranged attacker, but Magogs are superior as they have an area of effect.
Means
CD Project Red’s version of Steam.
AllTheGoodUserNamesAreTakenFML
https://www.gog.com/
flamingflamingo
Yep. Halo Master Chief Edition did that to me just yesterday.
guitarman2030
same! and you cant get past the login screen even if you want to play single player
manulofdoom
Wait what? Goddammit. I shouldn't have bought that
Well you don't really have much choice to play it on PC unless you pirate.
I got it refunded.
BrovoFoxtrot
Fucking origin made me do this and then makes me log in every time my goddamn internet cuts out
ButtmoTerror
Mass Effect Legendary Edition
jackmiton
Well worth it tho, it's excellent.
Matrelith
Origin is a lot better now. Launch game through Steam, Origins launches in the background and the game boots up, done
WhereIsMyAppleQuava
Serverly messes up the Steam version of ME3 though. Have to disable it to preserve frames and enable to invite friends.
livinglife9009
That’s why I straight up by EA games through origin. Why hassle through multiple login accounts at the same time.
Minterfresh
That's why they do it?
Dude you think that is okay? I stoped playing EA game for this same reason. Fuck every big company that make me sell my info for playing
Nykidemus
This guy gets it
TayOi
Turn on PC >>Task manager >> find Origin >> END FUCKING TASK. Everytime.
EA and ubisoft
Marsupialmessiah
Ubisoft... Your xbox app sucks and you give no refunds and lock your paid games forever. Fuck this shit
kmottar7
Bx 888. Juju
UnremarkablyInteresting
I've blacklisted Ubisoft after buying Fenyx Rising. I should not be required to sign up for an account to play a non-MMO game.
Phixik
Ubisoft has been going into the hot garbage zone for a bit. 1000 hrs in Rainbow and I stopped two patches ago. Just not worth it.
What’s a good FPS to get? I really like battlefront 2 but battlefield V&1 were meh. I looked at rainbow and squad for steam sale
vegivamp
For a bit? I stopped buying Ubisoft after they gave me only half the story of Prince of Persia.
I bought anno 2070 last year, played it once cuz that stupid garbage shit that come with it. Never ever ubisoft again.
Druidichawk19
Not to mention they apparently still haven't fixed a lot of the sexual harassment problems.
Also the new AC games don't feel like Assassin's Creed. But that's a personal gripe... I miss Ezio.
QuitLookinAtMineAim
1000 hours smh. I know that's not even a lot, but from an old person, wow.
AmbientSun
1000 is nothing. We don't watch hundreds of hours of live TV anymore, so something has to fill that slot! At least for me.
I am 35...
grimeyandslimey
TiredOfTheBS
I feel like that’s still a lot. The game I’ve played most obsessively for the longest time has me at just under 200 hours.
layasd
I have 4k hours in CSGO, but I played it since release. Which is 9 years now. Not even an hour per day for my main hobby. Seems fair.
Rahava
When you talk about games you play for years that get continually updated 1000hours can be quite small depending on the age of the game.
Destiny 2, GTA 5, Garry's Mod, Left 4 Dead 2, Elder Scrolls Online. The usual suspects in my case. All "old", but still new.
MFfromHell
Plus they have made account management incredibly complicated for no real reason.
doilooklikeaguywithausername
That’s what Assassin’s creed made me do
whywouldyoureadsuchalongusername
Same for me with Far cry Primal.
maddmurph
5 and New Dawn too.
autocorrectfailures
Why i only ever bought 1 assassins creed game on pc.
Gamefly forever ago, for me. What a garbage game.
MrKnowItAll1903
Ass Creed won't even play on a rig with 28 or more cores. Neither will Far Cry.
If a game has "Assassin's" in its name & I am not gutting mfs w/in 60 seconds of the title screen's fade, then NO THANKS.
SedatedSl0th
Does black flag do this? I was just considering purchasing.
ToBadForU
Yes it does. Still a fun game to play though..
Zega000
It do. The game is cool until the observatory mission.
BOSSMOPS
I hated these missions. Always let my bf do them. He's a hard-core MGS fan since the beginning and is fantastic in these kinda quests.
That's why I always go ape shit instead of sneaking in ESO. I can hear the facepalm from my friends in DC all the time lul
Totally. Great pirate game until it becomes assassin's creed.
Bunchie
Looking at you, uPlay. But only for as long as I have to.
lordofthedice
I'm so mad because I guess I put a 2-part authentication on my account (I don't remember this) and >
recovering my account from this is a PITA and now I can't play Black Flag.
ElbowDeepInAJedi
I stopped playing Might & Magic for this very reason
I stoped using EA games for this, and how do i miss you BF3
sanaujiram
Don’t forget about fifa.
LaronX
I...aquired the single player game I have bought on steam and need uPlay for no good reason else where. Fuck that shit
LegoMyEggoLas
I've come to accept uPlay and EA Origin since they have both have decently sized libraries. Rock Star's launcher can fuck off though. (1/2)
I already bought GTA on Steam and they decided to enforce this new extra log-in years later just to launch one of their only three games.
Wassre3000
Ubisoft is shit and I deleted all their games and will buy none. Due to their literal sexist and rapist company culture
Snowpossum
I got so fed up with uPlay it made me stop buying their games. I have to wonder if they ever saw any real tick in sales.
Onlyhereforthelaughs
Is that the Ubisoft one? I just wanted to play fucking UNO.
IamNotAshamed
I think it's hilarious that you don't blame Steam for this. None of this would've happened if they had a reasonable price policy.
xxJohnxx77
I would bet that independent of steams price policy, EA and Ubisoft would have their own anyway, because profit.
Origin was founded because Valve wouldn't back away from taking 30% on DLC sales. Everything else probably followed because it worked.
nomonames412
Yeah I feelya but its like every streaming service thats popped up past Netflix. I still use Netflix but fuck everything else.
xizar
I have prime, netflix, and crunchyroll. Not because I use them, but as a sop for when I sail the high seas.
I'll never understand brand loyalty. I'll go with whoever makes the best offer.
Silas007
I would say it's not brand loyalty but convenience.
agnewhawk
Stopped buying Ubi and EA games because of this. 10 years ago.
I've boycotted ubisoft for their bullshit drm/uplay since the 2000s. Fuck ubisoft.
LicensedAdHominem
Steam is literally a DRM.
PrincessDaystar
Its the double drm that gets me upset tho :(
Okay, don't get "Steam" versions of these games. I don't. So much less bloat.
Oh i just dont buy em anymore *shrug* saves me money amywho.
rivenmyr
I can’t even play old AC games anymore. they literally will not work. Ubisoft insists it’s a problem with my PC but it’s their launcher.
tried opening them on my second PC and my boyfriend’s PC. didn’t work then either, exact same problem :^) even on his account.
TBF, the old AC Games work fine. What antivirus are you running? What graphics driver version are you on? Have you run DDU?
They worked fine one day and then suddenly didnt the next. No driver updates. I went through literally all this with Ubisoft support already
They didn’t work on any of the 3 PCs in our house under two different accounts, so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
it was also on a brand new PC I had gotten about a week prior. Very few other things were installed in general.
Eddyrock
Ask for a refund and put the launcher as the reason
EvilMadMonk
Like steam cares about that.
Craftsman
We must all do this...It is the only way.
I do, every fucking time.
folded13
And make a note of the publisher, and don't buy their games.
IsntThatAaronic
But then you can't play the game. There are no winners
cursemonkey
There are no winners in the year 2021.
DarralHunter
Occasionally steam removes it from your library but “forgets” to inform the external launcher and you get to keep the game too
Nice!
secretdpp
But it was Mass Effect Andromeda
BoomBoomParrot
What if you want to play the game though?
Gayforbae
Yard har fiddle Dee dee
Colopty
You probably have a thousand other games in your backlog anyway. Or just go the pirate route I guess if it's super important to you.
TheHengeProphet
I mean there are several games I want to play published under the EA umbrella... If I know it's produced under EA, I won't buy it. Fuck EA.
Ijustsigneduptoupvotethis
Yep. And I have taken that attitude with Activision and Blizzard.
Activision has always been nasty, and I was suspicious from when Bizzard announced their merger... Hasn't gotten any better.
Goldensands
Yarr me hearty, ‘tis be the high seas from there!
DGNightwing95
Amen brother.
ChaoticSquid
Even worse when steam has a small install for an installer with a huge install for the game.
Steams download servers are insanely good compared to most other companies. I get 25MB/s steam and like 8MB/s on battlenet
Itschy
I think it all depends on the day. I DL with 60 MB/s on both sites regularly but when its a new game and all jump on it, its slower.
Eatingofthepies
Yeah I can get my full gigabit internet speed with steam downloads, 106mb/s peak while downloading horizon zero dawn today
Best experience was predownloading mass effect leg. Ed. That went too smooth... 100mb/s
OhNoDontTouch
Seriously, is it just because I live near Steam HQ (in the greater Seattle area) or does Steam have something figured out that others don't?
transientmind
They spend the money. Turns out that 30% cut they take IS going towards more than just Step 3: Profit.
NoQuestionMarksInDeclarativeSentences
Why yes, I do believe that most games are worse now. This is a huge reason.
drenix
I hate that XCOM doesnt have it's original launcher anymore, I dont care about the Firaxis launcher :/
BatmansUnderPantsAreSoSoft
It clearly states on the steam page that it'll require another launcher, stop supporting stupid shit
thesolamnus
Welp, when I initially bought Rocket League the company didnt shill out to Epic. Now I am not able to play without an Epic account. So...
finetoroastasimamarshmallow
I immediately ask for a refund and got it every time. Still annoying.
Estoyp00ping
GTA, I’m looking at you.
nopost
Looking at you, firaxis
IdiotSavantTinker
I tried to install GTAV off steam to see what all the fuss was about. After a four day download over my miserable slow DSL, the game 1/2
IdiotSavantTinker
refused to work without Rockstar something or other club. So, I got a refund and gave "Rockstar launcher" as a reason.
imgurnaknockuout
Ya, I just uninstall
WolfRamX4
I've literally uninstalled and refunded games for doing this. I got steam because I dont want 30 different launchers on my computer.
SpoilsburyToastMan
Get GoG galaxy. One launcher to rule them all.
Voojagig
I got a free game because EA pulled this shit.
someonesaid
Titanfall 2 everybody says it's the new true Halo, but you have to use Origin. I tried 3 times in 2 months, each time there was a new error
Thehoffmiester
Trackmania....
MightyPandaBoy
also any game that uses a different launcher cant be family shared which is really frustrating
JustAGamerDreamin
Steam makes me so angry, its such intrusive DRM when it wants to be, which is increasingly often.
JohnMike64
Same bullshit as with streaming services. Stop making you own versions you shits! You all moan and Cry about piracy this is why morons.
xMisacatx
Worst for me was the free SW BF2 from Epic. Launches Origin, then bounces back to Epic. Deleted fast.
xMisacatx
Cant even launch from Origin
PetCamperProject
now you have 3 different software suites, discord, twitch and 15 new online accounts
rookie23
Come on, play another game, let off some, steam. * it happens again
Sechran
Paradox tried this and, get this, the damn launcher's installation was broken! I'm not troubleshooting your pseudo malware BS! Refunded.
Grusnoid
I uninstalled every Paradox game I had because I was so pissed off that I couldn't use mods for HOI4, and it's all because of the launcher.
zrXO
Yep, hate it, they don't have it anymore right?
Sechran
This was with this year's Steam Summer Sale - it's still a thing. A profoundly stupid, inexcusable thing.
kebbitevoke
The paradox launcher on hoi4 takes 10 minutes to fucking load. The old one they had for it only took 20 seconds to launch. Fucking BS.
adiving
Something else might be wrong, I hate the thing but it's a split second here. And I hardly have a massive pc.. (amd 1600)
kebbitevoke
Dunno man, I reinstalled the game fully a couple of times but it didnt help. The paradox launcher for EU4 fires up in around 20 seconds :/
adiving
Heh, It would kinda depend on your PC of course. But I would still consider 20 seconds long :P. Paradox/steam leaves a lot of content in >
adiving
> home folders (appdata on windows I think). Don't know how it works under windows, but under linux shader data can make a big impact >
TellusEidolon
Not really broken but literally hogs performance like it was chrome. One of the worst launchers I've seen.
Sechran
Nope. Broken. Really broken. As in the installation of the launcher would not run without failing and erroring out.
SociallyAwkwardCanadianMoose
Yep
TellusEidolon
Never had that problem. Which paradox launcher did you use? I was talking mainly from experience with euiv launcher.
Sechran
Whichever one they tried to package with Skylines. Looking for a new city sim game, and didn't want to deal with Origin. Oh fucking well!
SociallyAwkwardCanadianMoose
Yeah, I can't get it to work even with their help
TellusEidolon
Ah. Haven't played that game yet.
ITellBadPuns
Just use GOG and avoid all that shit lol
anononanonanona
GOG is CDPR and they do this shit in Steam (at least for Cyberpunk 2077) so kinda... fuck them.
laughinggas
GOG cant buyoass third party launchers ? Warthunder/world of warplanes both launch their own shit snd you have to login into that?
laughinggas
A big utility is it closes the shit while exiting , i love that
TellusEidolon
iusedtodream
GOG?
fiddlewheelx
It's an inferno unit from homm3. It's fine as a early ranged attacker, but Magogs are superior as they have an area of effect.
Means
CD Project Red’s version of Steam.
AllTheGoodUserNamesAreTakenFML
https://www.gog.com/
flamingflamingo
Yep. Halo Master Chief Edition did that to me just yesterday.
guitarman2030
same! and you cant get past the login screen even if you want to play single player
manulofdoom
Wait what? Goddammit. I shouldn't have bought that
flamingflamingo
Well you don't really have much choice to play it on PC unless you pirate.
manulofdoom
I got it refunded.
BrovoFoxtrot
Fucking origin made me do this and then makes me log in every time my goddamn internet cuts out
ButtmoTerror
Mass Effect Legendary Edition
jackmiton
Well worth it tho, it's excellent.
Matrelith
Origin is a lot better now. Launch game through Steam, Origins launches in the background and the game boots up, done
WhereIsMyAppleQuava
Serverly messes up the Steam version of ME3 though. Have to disable it to preserve frames and enable to invite friends.
livinglife9009
That’s why I straight up by EA games through origin. Why hassle through multiple login accounts at the same time.
Minterfresh
That's why they do it?
zrXO
Dude you think that is okay? I stoped playing EA game for this same reason. Fuck every big company that make me sell my info for playing
Nykidemus
This guy gets it
TayOi
Turn on PC >>Task manager >> find Origin >> END FUCKING TASK. Everytime.
AllTheGoodUserNamesAreTakenFML
EA and ubisoft
Marsupialmessiah
Ubisoft... Your xbox app sucks and you give no refunds and lock your paid games forever. Fuck this shit
kmottar7
Bx 888. Juju
UnremarkablyInteresting
I've blacklisted Ubisoft after buying Fenyx Rising. I should not be required to sign up for an account to play a non-MMO game.
Phixik
Ubisoft has been going into the hot garbage zone for a bit. 1000 hrs in Rainbow and I stopped two patches ago. Just not worth it.
BrovoFoxtrot
What’s a good FPS to get? I really like battlefront 2 but battlefield V&1 were meh. I looked at rainbow and squad for steam sale
vegivamp
For a bit? I stopped buying Ubisoft after they gave me only half the story of Prince of Persia.
zrXO
I bought anno 2070 last year, played it once cuz that stupid garbage shit that come with it. Never ever ubisoft again.
Druidichawk19
Not to mention they apparently still haven't fixed a lot of the sexual harassment problems.
Druidichawk19
Also the new AC games don't feel like Assassin's Creed. But that's a personal gripe... I miss Ezio.
QuitLookinAtMineAim
1000 hours smh. I know that's not even a lot, but from an old person, wow.
AmbientSun
1000 is nothing. We don't watch hundreds of hours of live TV anymore, so something has to fill that slot! At least for me.
Phixik
I am 35...
grimeyandslimey
TiredOfTheBS
I feel like that’s still a lot. The game I’ve played most obsessively for the longest time has me at just under 200 hours.
layasd
I have 4k hours in CSGO, but I played it since release. Which is 9 years now. Not even an hour per day for my main hobby. Seems fair.
Rahava
When you talk about games you play for years that get continually updated 1000hours can be quite small depending on the age of the game.
AmbientSun
Destiny 2, GTA 5, Garry's Mod, Left 4 Dead 2, Elder Scrolls Online. The usual suspects in my case. All "old", but still new.
MFfromHell
Plus they have made account management incredibly complicated for no real reason.
doilooklikeaguywithausername
That’s what Assassin’s creed made me do
whywouldyoureadsuchalongusername
Same for me with Far cry Primal.
maddmurph
5 and New Dawn too.
autocorrectfailures
Why i only ever bought 1 assassins creed game on pc.
NoQuestionMarksInDeclarativeSentences
Gamefly forever ago, for me. What a garbage game.
MrKnowItAll1903
Ass Creed won't even play on a rig with 28 or more cores. Neither will Far Cry.
NoQuestionMarksInDeclarativeSentences
If a game has "Assassin's" in its name & I am not gutting mfs w/in 60 seconds of the title screen's fade, then NO THANKS.
SedatedSl0th
Does black flag do this? I was just considering purchasing.
ToBadForU
Yes it does. Still a fun game to play though..
Zega000
It do. The game is cool until the observatory mission.
BOSSMOPS
I hated these missions. Always let my bf do them. He's a hard-core MGS fan since the beginning and is fantastic in these kinda quests.
BOSSMOPS
That's why I always go ape shit instead of sneaking in ESO. I can hear the facepalm from my friends in DC all the time lul
Zega000
Totally. Great pirate game until it becomes assassin's creed.
Bunchie
Looking at you, uPlay. But only for as long as I have to.
lordofthedice
I'm so mad because I guess I put a 2-part authentication on my account (I don't remember this) and >
lordofthedice
recovering my account from this is a PITA and now I can't play Black Flag.
ElbowDeepInAJedi
I stopped playing Might & Magic for this very reason
zrXO
I stoped using EA games for this, and how do i miss you BF3
sanaujiram
Don’t forget about fifa.
LaronX
I...aquired the single player game I have bought on steam and need uPlay for no good reason else where. Fuck that shit
LegoMyEggoLas
I've come to accept uPlay and EA Origin since they have both have decently sized libraries. Rock Star's launcher can fuck off though. (1/2)
LegoMyEggoLas
I already bought GTA on Steam and they decided to enforce this new extra log-in years later just to launch one of their only three games.
Wassre3000
Ubisoft is shit and I deleted all their games and will buy none. Due to their literal sexist and rapist company culture
Snowpossum
I got so fed up with uPlay it made me stop buying their games. I have to wonder if they ever saw any real tick in sales.
Onlyhereforthelaughs
Is that the Ubisoft one? I just wanted to play fucking UNO.
IamNotAshamed
I think it's hilarious that you don't blame Steam for this. None of this would've happened if they had a reasonable price policy.
xxJohnxx77
I would bet that independent of steams price policy, EA and Ubisoft would have their own anyway, because profit.
IamNotAshamed
Origin was founded because Valve wouldn't back away from taking 30% on DLC sales. Everything else probably followed because it worked.
nomonames412
Yeah I feelya but its like every streaming service thats popped up past Netflix. I still use Netflix but fuck everything else.
xizar
I have prime, netflix, and crunchyroll. Not because I use them, but as a sop for when I sail the high seas.
IamNotAshamed
I'll never understand brand loyalty. I'll go with whoever makes the best offer.
Silas007
I would say it's not brand loyalty but convenience.
agnewhawk
Stopped buying Ubi and EA games because of this. 10 years ago.
TellusEidolon
I've boycotted ubisoft for their bullshit drm/uplay since the 2000s. Fuck ubisoft.
LicensedAdHominem
Steam is literally a DRM.
PrincessDaystar
Its the double drm that gets me upset tho :(
LicensedAdHominem
Okay, don't get "Steam" versions of these games. I don't. So much less bloat.
PrincessDaystar
Oh i just dont buy em anymore *shrug* saves me money amywho.
rivenmyr
I can’t even play old AC games anymore. they literally will not work. Ubisoft insists it’s a problem with my PC but it’s their launcher.
rivenmyr
tried opening them on my second PC and my boyfriend’s PC. didn’t work then either, exact same problem :^) even on his account.
SpoilsburyToastMan
TBF, the old AC Games work fine. What antivirus are you running? What graphics driver version are you on? Have you run DDU?
rivenmyr
They worked fine one day and then suddenly didnt the next. No driver updates. I went through literally all this with Ubisoft support already
rivenmyr
They didn’t work on any of the 3 PCs in our house under two different accounts, so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
rivenmyr
it was also on a brand new PC I had gotten about a week prior. Very few other things were installed in general.
Eddyrock
Ask for a refund and put the launcher as the reason
EvilMadMonk
Like steam cares about that.
Craftsman
NoQuestionMarksInDeclarativeSentences
We must all do this...It is the only way.
Nykidemus
I do, every fucking time.
folded13
And make a note of the publisher, and don't buy their games.
IsntThatAaronic
But then you can't play the game. There are no winners
cursemonkey
There are no winners in the year 2021.
DarralHunter
Occasionally steam removes it from your library but “forgets” to inform the external launcher and you get to keep the game too
Eddyrock
Nice!
secretdpp
But it was Mass Effect Andromeda
BoomBoomParrot
What if you want to play the game though?
Gayforbae
Yard har fiddle Dee dee
Colopty
You probably have a thousand other games in your backlog anyway. Or just go the pirate route I guess if it's super important to you.
TheHengeProphet
I mean there are several games I want to play published under the EA umbrella... If I know it's produced under EA, I won't buy it. Fuck EA.
Ijustsigneduptoupvotethis
Yep. And I have taken that attitude with Activision and Blizzard.
TheHengeProphet
Activision has always been nasty, and I was suspicious from when Bizzard announced their merger... Hasn't gotten any better.
Goldensands
Yarr me hearty, ‘tis be the high seas from there!
DGNightwing95
Amen brother.
ChaoticSquid
Even worse when steam has a small install for an installer with a huge install for the game.
ChaoticSquid
Steams download servers are insanely good compared to most other companies. I get 25MB/s steam and like 8MB/s on battlenet
Itschy
I think it all depends on the day. I DL with 60 MB/s on both sites regularly but when its a new game and all jump on it, its slower.
Eatingofthepies
Yeah I can get my full gigabit internet speed with steam downloads, 106mb/s peak while downloading horizon zero dawn today
Itschy
Best experience was predownloading mass effect leg. Ed. That went too smooth... 100mb/s
OhNoDontTouch
Seriously, is it just because I live near Steam HQ (in the greater Seattle area) or does Steam have something figured out that others don't?
transientmind
They spend the money. Turns out that 30% cut they take IS going towards more than just Step 3: Profit.