Double mastectomy last week. Possible cancer return not trans. But i support trans rights to have any surgery they need. My last bout with this was at the end of the orange cumquots last 4years and could not get both removed then. Its not that big a step from the royal idiot being against any trans surgery to be against any mastectomys since both save lives.
What sickens me the most is that anyone even gives a shit what someone else does with their body. That and the fact that all of this is just a made-up culture war by Christopher rufo and the only way Republicans can mobilize their base is with hate. Fucking disgusting subhuman trash.
Don't post anything this dude has to say. Even if he has decent takes about anything, don't give him a voice anywhere. Dude is a PROLIFIC abuser of women and has some pedo shit in his past as well.
Yes, that's how it works. If you are a cis man who realizes they are trans and are still into women when you transition, then you're a trans lesbian :3 Though it's not uncommon for your sexual preferences to shift as you transition as well. There are lots of cases where someone has transitioned only to have their sexual preferences transition as well, so they end up being just as straight as before. Others have their preferences remain the same, while others still realize they are bi-sexual.
Note the clip cutting short of the conservative's reaction, because it definitely consisted of him committing some mental gymnastics in order to dismiss the thought presented to him.
It's not going to be a mystery. We have more than enough documentation about why it happens. We'll say something to the effect of "late-stage capitalism was so concerned with the monetization of literally everything that people chose to censor themselves out of fear of losing any avenue for monetary gain they might have."
I think there's less than a 0.01% chance that he was about to say something super smart. I think there's a really fucking high chance that he was about to say something that proves the caption "make a conservative pro trans" wrong
This is like posting andrew tate because he says that drugs and alcohol are bad and you should work out and improve yourself and ignoring all of the heinous shit he says.
This guy runs a harassment ring out of his discord, his own son was groomed into becoming a neo nazi on that same discord, he has credible CSAM and SA allegations which he is currently in court about, and he did a propoganda trip to israel. This is a disgusting loser that does not need a platform.
This is exactly why I've always been on the side of trans folk. Because I get it. It just so happened that my 'ideal self' was just... a better version of *me.* Something I have to work toward to become. It doesn't matter what the goal is, if you look down at yourself, and feel only a need to change, to truly be yourself inside AND out? You should have the right to pursue that goal. I do, and honestly, it's stupid to deny anyone else the chance to do the same.
Exactly. Wanting to shift your hormones so your body more aligns with your brain is not all that different from wanting to go to the gym to work out so your body matches what your brain wants to see.
That's because they are morally opposed to people changing their minds. That first guy tried to perform mind-changing surgery on the second guy, without his permission.
If the question starts with "I take your brain and I put it in someone else's body", wouldn't the answer be "Put my brain back in the body it started in"..?
Wouldn't the reason your brain is in a new body be because it's no longer able to support life? I'd be fine putting a Trump supporters brain back into a dead body. At least they wouldn't be filling out a complaint form.
Yeah, the issue i see with this argument is that it starts with science fiction to create it. I'm all for Trans rights, but I see this as a terrible way to argue this point.
Well, that's easy to address: We can't put it back in your body, it was destroyed, that might even be why you brain was removed. The body was so mangled, I can't tell what sex you were. So, I dumped you Ina body that doesn't work with your gender, but we could switch to one that does, do you wanna stay in that current body?
Well... What if the gender does match, but it still doesn't feel like the right body? What if it is a practically perfect match but there's this weird persistent feeling that something is wrong? (And what if someone says there's definitely something that can make it go away..?)
Great! We have still made an argument for physical dysphoria! People like obsessive bodybuildersand people with eating disorders experience.
So, like any similar disorder, it's best to work with a professional who can help you get to a body that better suits you in a safe and healthy manner.
Idk that I'd bother. Destiny (the non-conservative) doesnt really have any actual beliefs, he's just good at debating. So like you may not be getting factual information so much as like "good arguments" (also, he's a massive piece of shit who sexted minors and i believe sent sex tapes to his friends without the consent of the other individuals)
Can you give a single example of him giving non-factual information or expressing beliefs not in alignment with moderate liberalism or capitalist beliefs?
Ya... makes me want to hear the incoherent rambling and attempt to re-align their past words with the new realization, the 'awakening' they just hit, the attempt to put themselves back to sleep. I think that is the best these guys can be, how they amuse us, the one and only way we can 'find them acceptable' to continue to tolerate in our society. They like reach the line, cross over it, u SEE the spark of 'realization' then the internal conflict as they try to 'kill' that spark and step back.
This is when I think there's something wrong with me - I am morbidly curious about how he then tries to walk that back or pretend he never agreed. He's so uncomfortable, instead of growing you just know he has to try to pretend he doesn't understand. I feel compelled to watch these gymnastics 😭
Having family that love Trump and hate trans people...their reasoning is usually if Jesus did it you just need to accept it.
Thing to note: Every single one of them wears glasses because Jesus made them myopic. Most have had some sort of cancer, but got it treated by modern medicine. A few have joint replacements, because theirs wore out.
I just found out a few hours ago that my mother is taking Ivermectin injections (against a doctor's advice) to replace the chemo and radiation therapy for her breast cancer scare from last year.
She's 72 in August and I really don't have any hope of her making it to 75.
I have an aunt that had breast cancer, and when my mom got lung cancer that aunt suggested all sorts of alternative treatments. My mom told her to find a short rope and a long drop...because when my aunt had cancer she got treated with chemo and immune therapy. All the things she told my mom not to get for the alternative treatments.
Same situation here! My mom's older sister had a double mastectomy years ago and is also kinda cult-ish ... basically, all the doctors everywhere are keeping secrets to keep us all sick so they can make more money, blah-blah-conspiracy-blah.
Yeah, sounds like my aunt. All the doctors are part of something secret doing things to patients.
Working in hospital admin, every minute of their day is regimented to chart, see patients, bill, or (barely) sleep. The secret is they are drowning and people put more and more things on top of them when they are trying to get air. In a room full of everyone involved in patient care...they have about the least power and money compared to insurance companies.
Yes, and yet god makes many "real biological conditions" that cause a person to fall in between the sexes: Androgen Insensitivity Syndrome, Congenital Adrenal Hyperplasia, Klinefelter syndrome, Swyer Syndrome, mosaicism involving sex chromosomes...
It's funny how they immediately say that rather than 'God has offered you a unique challenge, and congrats on finding the solution for it!' Cause you know it's them intentionally choosing the most divisive logic.
When I worked at GNC the thing we sold the MOST of was testosterone, over the counter, to older men who didn't feel like "men" anymore. Talk about gender-affirming care... Why should trans people have any less access to it?
They don't wear glasses, glasses are for nerd cuck libtards who wanna read and see through their bullshit. They are blind to all the bullshit around them.
blanksmom
Double mastectomy last week. Possible cancer return not trans. But i support trans rights to have any surgery they need. My last bout with this was at the end of the orange cumquots last 4years and could not get both removed then. Its not that big a step from the royal idiot being against any trans surgery to be against any mastectomys since both save lives.
PantlessThunderGoose42
*disappears in a poof of cognitive dissonance*
INeedMoreGifMeMoreJustOneMore
Well, if there's brain transplant surgery... Just put my brain back in my body? Why go change this other body that surely belonged to another person??
HeywouldJablowme
What sickens me the most is that anyone even gives a shit what someone else does with their body. That and the fact that all of this is just a made-up culture war by Christopher rufo and the only way Republicans can mobilize their base is with hate. Fucking disgusting subhuman trash.
YippeeKayakOB
"Damn it, you trapped me into saying something that actually makes sense!"
TheAnswerIsViolence
I highly doubt this changed anything but that is probably the most civilized behavior of someone on that side in a debate I've seen in a while.
He didn't interrupt. He answered the question directly and concisely.
I'm sure I'd hate what he was about to follow up with, but I'd at least be willing to hear what he had to say with behavior like that.
psmith00
ended too quickly. wanted to see the Conservative try to fix what he'd already just said.
getadogupya
Did it make him pro-trans?
I have doubts.
KoalaOnTheJuice
It made him confused and he lost all interest. Probably.
soshutupBOI
Don't post anything this dude has to say. Even if he has decent takes about anything, don't give him a voice anywhere. Dude is a PROLIFIC abuser of women and has some pedo shit in his past as well.
denissabetudo1472000
Maybe I'll have fun with my new "wrong" boby. Oops am i gay now?
PrincessBatCat
Yes, that's how it works. If you are a cis man who realizes they are trans and are still into women when you transition, then you're a trans lesbian :3 Though it's not uncommon for your sexual preferences to shift as you transition as well. There are lots of cases where someone has transitioned only to have their sexual preferences transition as well, so they end up being just as straight as before. Others have their preferences remain the same, while others still realize they are bi-sexual.
Colopty
Note the clip cutting short of the conservative's reaction, because it definitely consisted of him committing some mental gymnastics in order to dismiss the thought presented to him.
invaderjak
I wonder what far future historians are going to think of the current ridiculous censorship of words.
PrincessAris
It's not going to be a mystery. We have more than enough documentation about why it happens. We'll say something to the effect of "late-stage capitalism was so concerned with the monetization of literally everything that people chose to censor themselves out of fear of losing any avenue for monetary gain they might have."
drunkbs
Oh hey, sexpestinty.
ThisNameUnavailable
Found the Hasan fan 🤣
UnhelpfulAnswers
Is that the Zionist sex pestiny?
applesforjuice
Feel like you cut off the conservative guys response for a reason
crcb
It was not me...but was he about to say something super smart?
applesforjuice
I think there's less than a 0.01% chance that he was about to say something super smart. I think there's a really fucking high chance that he was about to say something that proves the caption "make a conservative pro trans" wrong
Temzilla
Eww, why are you posting this loser?
crcb
Because he's right on this...and on other issues...and not so much on others...why is that such a big deal...
Temzilla
This is like posting andrew tate because he says that drugs and alcohol are bad and you should work out and improve yourself and ignoring all of the heinous shit he says.
This guy runs a harassment ring out of his discord, his own son was groomed into becoming a neo nazi on that same discord, he has credible CSAM and SA allegations which he is currently in court about, and he did a propoganda trip to israel. This is a disgusting loser that does not need a platform.
NonstopRampage
This is exactly why I've always been on the side of trans folk. Because I get it. It just so happened that my 'ideal self' was just... a better version of *me.* Something I have to work toward to become. It doesn't matter what the goal is, if you look down at yourself, and feel only a need to change, to truly be yourself inside AND out? You should have the right to pursue that goal. I do, and honestly, it's stupid to deny anyone else the chance to do the same.
PrincessBatCat
Exactly. Wanting to shift your hormones so your body more aligns with your brain is not all that different from wanting to go to the gym to work out so your body matches what your brain wants to see.
CrisprCAS
Destiny the genocide supporting sexpest?
ILDL
CuntCrotchula
No, thats destiny the genocide supporting sexpesty pedo
Etereo
The same indeed
InfocalypseRising
Notably this cuts before the guy almost certainly goes "lol no, fuk u" because logic will never sway these people
KarenFromTheHOA
I want to know
FoxPesdassi
That's because they are morally opposed to people changing their minds. That first guy tried to perform mind-changing surgery on the second guy, without his permission.
Kwyjor
If the question starts with "I take your brain and I put it in someone else's body", wouldn't the answer be "Put my brain back in the body it started in"..?
Subsound
Wouldn't the reason your brain is in a new body be because it's no longer able to support life? I'd be fine putting a Trump supporters brain back into a dead body. At least they wouldn't be filling out a complaint form.
rafizard
Yeah, the issue i see with this argument is that it starts with science fiction to create it. I'm all for Trans rights, but I see this as a terrible way to argue this point.
MasterBountakun
Well, that's easy to address: We can't put it back in your body, it was destroyed, that might even be why you brain was removed. The body was so mangled, I can't tell what sex you were. So, I dumped you Ina body that doesn't work with your gender, but we could switch to one that does, do you wanna stay in that current body?
Kwyjor
Well... What if the gender does match, but it still doesn't feel like the right body? What if it is a practically perfect match but there's this weird persistent feeling that something is wrong? (And what if someone says there's definitely something that can make it go away..?)
MasterBountakun
Great! We have still made an argument for physical dysphoria! People like obsessive bodybuildersand people with eating disorders experience.
So, like any similar disorder, it's best to work with a professional who can help you get to a body that better suits you in a safe and healthy manner.
Iftheyredeadtheyrejusthookers
the basis of the argument is flawed, anything else you try to add to justify it is meaningless.
Woogyface
does anybody has a source? i would like to hear the full thing
ThisNameUnavailable
Here is the full debate the clip comes from: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGJhrVhTjFU
Woogyface
CuntCrotchula
Idk that I'd bother. Destiny (the non-conservative) doesnt really have any actual beliefs, he's just good at debating. So like you may not be getting factual information so much as like "good arguments" (also, he's a massive piece of shit who sexted minors and i believe sent sex tapes to his friends without the consent of the other individuals)
ThisNameUnavailable
Can you give a single example of him giving non-factual information or expressing beliefs not in alignment with moderate liberalism or capitalist beliefs?
ThisNameUnavailable
@CuntCrotchula okay so you can't name a single time he's done that. you just repeat what the dog abuser tells you.
EnderKing567
Now where is the part where the conservative has no standards and tries to walk back what they said as 'different' when it's the same reasoning.
EveryGOPAccusationIsActuallyAnAdmission
I think you could hear him trying to walk it back in the background but the speaker was having none of it. I love it!
AtmaDarkwolf
Ya... makes me want to hear the incoherent rambling and attempt to re-align their past words with the new realization, the 'awakening' they just hit, the attempt to put themselves back to sleep. I think that is the best these guys can be, how they amuse us, the one and only way we can 'find them acceptable' to continue to tolerate in our society. They like reach the line, cross over it, u SEE the spark of 'realization' then the internal conflict as they try to 'kill' that spark and step back.
dynamojoe
I don’t need to hear it. He’s pro-trans now. No further questions, Your Honor!
pictory
This is when I think there's something wrong with me - I am morbidly curious about how he then tries to walk that back or pretend he never agreed. He's so uncomfortable, instead of growing you just know he has to try to pretend he doesn't understand. I feel compelled to watch these gymnastics 😭
imnotinthewitnessprotectionprogram
It’s going to be Olympic level. The Russian judge will be very impressed
es297
You could hear that whole process in his last constipated "OKAY" before the video cuts out.
SunBrolem
literally as the clip cuts.
buttcreambandit
He says the “OKAYYY” which always is followed by incoherent babbling so luckily the video cuts off
KillerTofu69
He'll deny it. Try to clarify. Fail. Get mad. Continue hating trans people.
EnderKing567
Exactly. It's a sport to them. Our suffering is their entertainment.
Lampmonster
He was already mad, look at the guy. Bro went into this discussion mad. He probably wakes up mad.
GigglingWordBearer
"It's different when we do it!"
Subsound
Having family that love Trump and hate trans people...their reasoning is usually if Jesus did it you just need to accept it.
Thing to note: Every single one of them wears glasses because Jesus made them myopic. Most have had some sort of cancer, but got it treated by modern medicine. A few have joint replacements, because theirs wore out.
DarthWaiterSE
I just found out a few hours ago that my mother is taking Ivermectin injections (against a doctor's advice) to replace the chemo and radiation therapy for her breast cancer scare from last year.
She's 72 in August and I really don't have any hope of her making it to 75.
Subsound
I am really sorry.
I have an aunt that had breast cancer, and when my mom got lung cancer that aunt suggested all sorts of alternative treatments. My mom told her to find a short rope and a long drop...because when my aunt had cancer she got treated with chemo and immune therapy. All the things she told my mom not to get for the alternative treatments.
DarthWaiterSE
Same situation here! My mom's older sister had a double mastectomy years ago and is also kinda cult-ish ... basically, all the doctors everywhere are keeping secrets to keep us all sick so they can make more money, blah-blah-conspiracy-blah.
Confirmation bias rears it's ugly hydra-ass-heads yet again.
Subsound
Yeah, sounds like my aunt. All the doctors are part of something secret doing things to patients.
Working in hospital admin, every minute of their day is regimented to chart, see patients, bill, or (barely) sleep. The secret is they are drowning and people put more and more things on top of them when they are trying to get air. In a room full of everyone involved in patient care...they have about the least power and money compared to insurance companies.
BarracksLawyerESQ
The "god doesn't make mistakes" crowd as they gobble viagra and get hair transplants
Firestar002
Technically all fetuses start out female….
BarracksLawyerESQ
I mean, biologically..
I do suppose that's also included in "technically".
justherefortheconfession
and their wives get Mar-a-lago face
Mahabazu
Yes, and yet god makes many "real biological conditions" that cause a person to fall in between the sexes:
Androgen Insensitivity Syndrome, Congenital Adrenal Hyperplasia, Klinefelter syndrome, Swyer Syndrome, mosaicism involving sex chromosomes...
EnderKing567
It's funny how they immediately say that rather than 'God has offered you a unique challenge, and congrats on finding the solution for it!' Cause you know it's them intentionally choosing the most divisive logic.
ElasticFireCracker
But yet, in Genesis 6, it says that god regretted making mankind. That sounds like an admission of a mistake to me.
Mahabazu
You're just not reading the unerring and infallible book right.
ElasticFireCracker
I feel like this should be on a different post. But its late and I'm too brain dead to remember. Lol good night
eddbrowne
canigifinpaint
When I worked at GNC the thing we sold the MOST of was testosterone, over the counter, to older men who didn't feel like "men" anymore. Talk about gender-affirming care... Why should trans people have any less access to it?
azgrak1
I tried testosterone supplements back in my bicycle racing days. It made me hyper aggressive. It absolutely was not worth the performance benefits.
LanceSackless
Thing is, if you dont have a medical need for testosterone, taking it just makes your body worse at producing
Quebeker
And wear glasses
Jewdakris
They don't wear glasses, glasses are for nerd cuck libtards who wanna read and see through their bullshit. They are blind to all the bullshit around them.
TheDudeanator
LASIK is a better example, permanently modifying God's creation. God made you half blind, live with it.
MadamPuddifoot
And even sunglasses
watisthisidontevn
And clothes
choppedliveraldente
Thank you god or whomever
BarracksLawyerESQ
Awesome song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZeWPScnolo&t=5s
AnonOmis1000
Even by their own religion, god intended for humans to be naked
satanicblackmagic
i always wondered why you cant have different fabrics when youre sposed to be naked anyway
choppedliveraldente
Because they realized not everyone should be naked after someone wrote down they should