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Sarah Huckabee Sanders bans "woke language" in Arkansas -
https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2023/10/sarah-huckabee-sanders-bans-woke-language-in-arkansas/
JohnnyLawlessEsq
It hurt itself in its confusion.
waeraj
She's doing this to cover up her fraud.
TedDansoninthedark
I'm assuming FOIA requests have quietly been reclassified as woke language.
To cover up her future frauds too.
JD67
Are they also replacing “children” with “workers”? https://arktimes.com/arkansas-blog/2023/03/22/its-easier-to-put-kids-to-work-in-arkansas-now-and-people-are-talking-about-it
Vermonstrous
Exactly.
Blakeadelic
The repeal of Roe will “erase” more women and girls than words ever will.
ameriki
Two-thirds of white Arkansans believe her. Her daddy is a preacher and made millions after all.
OriginalSyn
You know what I'd ban? Funneling $19,000 of tax payer money into your friends company and claiming it's for a podium, which normally costs $7500 and the one you got was a fake with maybe a couple hundred dollars.
shinagami091
$7500 for a podium is robbery anyway. It’s not like you’re building a deck
OriginalSyn
100% but each stage of it just adds to the premeditated corruption. Also turns out that the GOP of AK tried to have an admin retroactively mark the invoice as "to be reimbursed" without timestamping it, and then reimbursed the money after the media started digging into it. Thankfully that admin covered their ass with an email stating the crime they were being told to commit.
ilovetraveler
Arkansas never ratified the Equal Rights Amendment, which guarantees women equal rights as men. Arkansas has a total abortion ban with no exceptions for rape or incest and Arkansas is one of the states with the highest maternal mortality rights. What exactly are you doing for women besides terrorizing trans people, you misogynistic, psychopathic piece of shit.
girlyBIRB
Don't forget that you can also legally marry a child that is pregnant or has given birth in Arkansas with permission from her parents. (And way too many other states as well.)
poppaw2
Sick, sick mind. As ugly on the inside as she is on the outside.
UnknownParticipant67
It's hard to believe that the same state that elected Bill Clinton would elect this monstrosity.
aloharamada
So let's get this straight; It's a-okay to take women's reproductive rights and bodily autonomy away, but using inclusive language is somehow hurting women?...Get absolutely fucked.
CosplayComet
Ahhh yes, Republicans focusing on the hard-hitting, lifechanging topics that are REALLY going to save lives and strengthen the economy.
SleepyHollowAppleTree
veronicablood
Whatever Offends Klansmen Easily.
HonestCommentFarmer
"I'm going to say woman"
Higure
Even without going into any trans issues, and without going into all the different medical corner cases of what makes biological sex, and speaking only about entirely conventional, right-friendly medicine, doesn't she know there is a big difference between "women" and "menstruating people"? Not all uteruses bleed. They can be too old, too young, too sick, and I'm sure there are other reasons too.
mischiev
In their perspective women are only people when birthing babies.
Higure
Even then they must be aware that women over 60 can't do that anymore.
idonotthinkitownswhatyouthinkitowns
What a fucking arsehole
EngorgedPhallus
Yeah that's not straight outta the fascism playbook or anything...
MajorNikon
thisismyusernamenowiguess
Shove your lumpy pillows up your bum ms lindell
ragingDebonair
She is secretly Mike Pillow in disguise. She is such a hideous caveman. It’s hard to believe she actually has an attractive husband.
mischiev
Secretly?
AVaguelyFamiliarUsername
he likes her for her lovely personality
vystral
SomewhatSarcastic
Iaimtomisbehave
Talk is the cheapest stuff on the planet. It's really our choices and actions that define us, and Sarah chooses to hang out with terrorist.
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ImHereToGetDownvotes
Sadly, the fact she not only is one parties contender, but that she won says a lot about the American society too. They either embrace her or are too apathetic to spend a single day at most to get out and vote against her. It's literally saying "Yeah, my one day of inconvenience just isn't important enough. I'll have everyone, including myself, suffer for 2 - 6 years (depending on the position) under shit leadership instead of spending some time to vote."
Styxwash
Junior is more like "doped up and confused" than smiling
McFrostenwulf
Ain't this the same chick what legalized child labor?
InfocalypseRising
“Chestfeeding?” This is the first time I’ve ever heard that
CookieMonstersCrumbs
Assholes like her make up the weirdest fucking shit to be mad about and it's like, could you please stop hitting yourself already? We're so tired of your bullshit.
mischiev
Being mad and shouting on video is the way they rile up their voters and stay relevant! We can't expect people to vote for people well-suited to govern, or those elected to govern to do their job! Psch, what kind of universe would that be?! Some kind of fairytale where people are represented in their government and the government acts in the best interests of its people!
dghughes
Men have breasts sure the tissue is smaller than in women of course but they are actual breasts and men can get breast cancer. Arbitrarily changing a word doesn't mean 99.9% of people will agree or have to. Bizarre attitudes on "both sides".
Galfronon
Before they ever came for the socialists, and communists they shut down the Institut für Sexualwissenschaft and burned all of their research. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Institut_f%C3%BCr_Sexualwissenschaft
TZO2k15
Hijacking comment for Tennesseans. ⇒ EARLY VOTING 'TIL NOV 2 FOR TENNESSEANS, GO OUT AND VOTE, NO EXCUSE! Unless you're OK with fascists running your city and state!
Housemaster
TZO2k15
echoawoo
Not so fun fact, Martin Niemöller, the man who wrote first they came for, was an ardent Nazi cheering for the mass elimination of queer people, jewish people, gypsies and many other groups. He didn't drop this support until they came for the Christian clergy later on. Even after this, he intentionally left the first two groups targeted, queer people and gypsies out of his poem..
echoawoo
Double not so fun fact, queer people in concentration camps were left to starve to death in them after allies liberated them for everyone else.
EmanNiemThcin
"Before [...]" No, going after the socialists and communists was part of the power struggle. I refer you to the fighting between https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roter_Frontk%C3%A4mpferbund and brownshirts, the "Reichstag Fire Decree" of February 33, or the fate of people like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans_Beimler_(politician) . The attack on the institute occured in May 33 after the take over and the rigged election of March 33.
echoawoo
Right, but nobody else had experienced direct lethal violence at the hands of the Nazi paramilitary force the Sturmabteilung up to this point. There were 13 years of queer bashing violence before the institute was burned. Only after the Nazis took power did they start targeting other minorities.
EmanNiemThcin
"nobody else had experienced direct lethal violence [...]" This is incorrect, Sturmabteilung = brownshirts. The political violence of weimar was fought between paramilitary groups associated with political parties, the SA you mentioned, the RFB I mentioned, Reichsbanner, Stahlhelm etc. It was often bloody and led to many dearhs long before 33. If you actually read the links you'll see even in 33 the communists were first on the list https://youtu.be/uXpnb6hWSYA?feature=shared
EmanNiemThcin
Here an example of the anti-fascist "Iron Front" (31-33) a successor to the social-democratic Reichsbanner https://youtu.be/L8mOdSamBWI?feature=shared who had been fighting the SA for the better part of Weimar's existence.
letsloveeachother
And in Russia by that time communists physically eradicated all the real and part of perceived opposition.
StormofWyverns
Indeed
Jewdakris
How come everything in German looks like a nonsense word and sounds scary
Asgarus
Institut? Sexual?
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AshChatBot
Does this apply only here? or also retroactively to the thousands of other groups of people that are a minority who already have terminology to refer to them? "Bending over backwards" comes across incredibly disingenuous when we have created inclusive language and titles to refer to even SINGULAR people that the entire country follows, seems ridiculous to just say no to this group because it's... too hard?
Taalii
If you think ‘use a term that includes people’ is ‘bending over backwards’ you must have serious problems with the nightmare of holding a door, or pulling over to let an ambulance pass on the door. Not to mention acknowledging the repeated mass shootings targeting the people needing inclusion.
LordLobster
Talking is bending over backwards? How little effort do you give others that talking nicely is considered tremendous effort?
Galfronon
While I agree that some of these terms are a bit ridiculous outright banning them is very problematic.
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echoawoo
It is a ban because there are punitive punishments in place for violating it; this isn't restricted to official communique either.
obviouslyrob
DestinyPrevails
How difficult is it for you to change a word? If someone changes their name (For whatever reason), is it bending over backwards? Is it bending over backwards to adapt to a new title at a workplace? If a company changes their name or logo, how long do you continue using the former one because it's too much work to use the new one?
StellarJay77
Well in the case of Twitter, I still refuse to call it "X" but that's not because it's too much work, it's just a terrible name. So for every other company your point still stands.
DestinyPrevails
Oh sure, but as you say, it's not because it's difficult to change the name, it's for other reasons. X being a stupid name, it being important to Musk because it's his failed all-in-one platform brand from years ago, calling it "the platform Musk lost 44bn on" instead, etc. Personally I call it X-itter, pronounced sh-itter, and the posts X-its, pronounced sh-its, but that's probably more work than just going along with Musk's braindead rebranding exercise.
NKato
Destruction of research is never okay.
StellarJay77
Yes, it is necessary. Every step forward, no matter how small or insignificant that works to protect and include those who are most marginalized in our society is definitely needed and should be encouraged. So every step backward needs to be discouraged. It is our job to speak for and raise up those who have been prevented from advocating for themselves.
dontrike
What a dumb fucking thing to say.
SLimageshare
its not bending over backwards, and its the least we can do. Inclusivity is one of the benefits of changing our language, sure, but a more monumental benefit would be attempting to take away unconscious bias of what roles different sexes and gender identities are meant to have in relationships, in the workplace and in society in general. Language informs how our brains understand the world.
Lexgeddon
SLimageshare
Also, lot of langue as it is right now infers that "human" is male or female, and that some roles are male only or female only (because masculine or feminine signalling words are in the name of the role, like fireman). It seems very unfair to humanity that people have to do mental gymnastics to unlearn lifelong assumptions about different roles in society that happen to have gendered names. Would more young people think they could be firefighters if the word "fireman" never existed?
SLimageshare
And, would young people never question their humanity and validity as a person if gendered language and binaries weren't baked into our societies and reinforced daily? To me, seems like a LOT of work and bending over backwards has to be done by politics, media, infrastructure, whatever...just to disadvantage "such a small portion of society." But really, it disadvantages everyone. A society that devalues the work from different gender identities is wasting its potential.
Wirdjos
I love how she's pointing to "denying our biological differences" as the reason for dumbing down language despite more inclusive language solving exactly that issue. Do you know who "menstruating person" does not include? Postmenopausal women. Inclusive language is more accurate and focused than such a broad term as 'woman'. It's just not as useful a term as you think it is.
KevinBlevenstein
I think you have it backwards. This legislation would replace "menstruating person" with "woman".
MerriMod
It's also a bit of a smoke screen. Huckabee Sanders is currently staring down the lane at a financial fraud investigation and is following the standard GOP playbook of slinging around inflammatory bullshit to distract from that.
btreadway
Seems like it should be hard to really identify biological differences when you don't even know your head from your asshole
mischiev
To be fair to her shit does come from *both* ends of her body!
sirbartonslady
I know someone who menstruates but uses male pronouns. It's unfair to call him a woman if he lives as a man but can't yet get surgery for it. Gov Bigot would delight in misgendering him on principle
Punkrockpearl
She also said it's science, plain & simple...like, bitch, did you even TAKE science? Genetics? Learn about chromosomal pairings out of the XX/XY ranges? It's not about science; if it were, it still wouldn't be justification for the order.
ElAburrimientoMePuede
The far right is very theatric, practicality does not matter all that much to them.
Photeus
Absolutely. There are definitely words used for conveying quick and concise ideas but they aren't as useful when defining specifics. Very well put.
NotSomoneElse68
I just want them to start calling her "The Female Governor of Arkansas."
PeesInShowers
I'm in agreeance with you, the only one that confuses me is chest feeding. Every one has breasts. They may not be as fatty as female born, but I still consider them breasts. Why did we change that term?
Slimewire
I guess also because public "breastfeeding " can be so sexualized; chestfeeding avoids that
Wirdjos
That is also a fair, if a little sad, point.
PlanckEraWasMyBestEra
Because a lot of nonbinary, intersex, and trans people find the term triggering as it's colloquially almost exclusively used to refer to female breasts (for humans, anyway). So referring to it as chestfeeding just alleviates some unnecessary discomfort. I, as a trans man, find several words very uncomfortable despite them accurately referring to parts I physically have. 'Breasts' isn't one of them for me, but I am not all trans people.
Wirdjos
Thanks for sharing your perspective! It's good to know that the language change is actually helpful as opposed to something some well-meaning but out-of-community person just reckoned would be.
Wirdjos
I'd really like to hear from a trans man on that one. My reaction was that 'breast' is the name for thing on the human body that feeds babies, but your point seems even more salient. My (cis male) perspective on that is quite limited though.
spinbutton3
If you take the right hormones, men's breasts will start lactating too..so cool!
INeverReadTheTOS
Yup. The rabid insistence that "people who menstruate" and "women" are 1-to-1 interchangeable terms is violently misogynistic.
Guvk
Violently?
INeverReadTheTOS
As in, like... "very". But also, her type of rhetoric *does* lead to actual physical violence.
alienlife
Serious question: why is it 'violently?' I understand that often politicians and larger society ignore women's health concerns and actively legislate against it. Is this in reference to that?
INeverReadTheTOS
I mean, like... "very". But also, her type of rhetoric does often lead directly to actual physical violence, yes.
spinbutton3
Happy to know that I'm a man now! At least in Ark.
INeverReadTheTOS
It reduces the value of a woman down to merely her ability to create children, thus erasing women who, for whatever reason, can't.
Crowlands
Republicans: "That is all a woman is for though."
acuteavocado7
or won't. choosing not to have kids is nothing to be ashamed of
NKato
That's fine. They can still wield either a chancla or a wrench just fine. :D
INeverReadTheTOS
Every time people like this try their "People who menstruate? You mean WOMEN??!!?!?11" bullshit, they're completely giving away their actual view - that women only exist to create more wage slaves, that their only value is in being a fucking incubator, pumping out fresh cogs for the capitalist machine. Furthermore, insisting that "people who menstruate" and "women" are 1-to-1 interchangeable terms completely erases all girls and women who *don't* menstruate, and is thus inherently misogynistic.
cadesama
I dislike that terminology because I don't like being reduced to a biological function. I feel like that's true for many people. I just like women AND trans men AND non binary people AND..
PrincessBella343
It's also a quick and easy way to put down trans women.
INeverReadTheTOS
And trans men.
Punkrockpearl
Meanwhile, people on the local news clips are praising this Gone With the Wind extra and wishing she could be president...I need to get the hell outta this state.
Someshithead241
Nah.. I think its just cos in their mind women are the only one who can menstruate. Not that all must do it at every point jn their lives. It ain't that deep.
NKato
I still consider women who don't menstruate to be women. Color me confused, but why are we splitting hairs over this? To me, terms like "people who menstruate" are applicable in their appropriate contexts (medical distinction, for example), but aren't a catch-all term. "Women" is a catch-all term for people of that gender identity. Trying to present these phrases and terms as "woke" just makes the people pushing the "anti-woke" agenda sound absolutely imbecilic.
Recovering9gagger
I agreed with u initially, but thought about it longer n realized that trans men can also menstruate (increasing body dysmorphia). There r also women and girls who don't menstruate such as little girls, post menopausal, anyone who's had a hysterectomy, or anyone with medical issues. I don't think the left is trying to relabel every female who can menstruate with this term, I think it makes sense to use it when it's needed. But no matter if u agree with her or not, she's against the 1st amendment
INeverReadTheTOS
"People who menstruate" is the single most accurate term for... well, people who menstruate. There is no other term that is as accurate as that. And when dealing with any bureaucratic or legal process, the more accurate a term is, the better. Ambiguity creates loopholes. That's all there is to it, really. She's signalling hatred for a minority and in doing so, she isn't making anything better, she's making it worse.
DiracsDelta
It’s time stop tossing out basic mathematics. Stop making pi a complicated number and just call it 3. These irrational numbers are demeaning to the simple minded people who only know how to count /s
ChloeRed
Just don't use that maths to sort the post.. BS Johnson did that once...
DiracsDelta
I just got pissed off over “simple biology” language when genetics and biology are ANYTHING but simple.
TheMouseOfMadness
Yeah, but honestly do you expect those kinds of people to even know what irrational numbers are? The extent of their "simple" knowledge stops somewhere around middle school level.
mischiev
They don't know what "irrational" means on its own. Despite them being an excellent example of it.
madjo
Now who is curtailing freedom of speech, again?
Higure
"For official state and government business" Has nothing to do with freedom of speech in this particular case. These are only guidelines for what speech the government itself utters. And your personal freedom of speech doesn't apply if you work for the government and are speaking on the government's behalf. That's true for any employer. It's a dangerous precedent, and a dangerous influence, to be sure. But it has nothing to do with 1A directly.
Idontneedrealfacts
Same as it ever was
djj25
She too likes the uneducated
hollywilsonpregler9000
I'm guessing this will be challenged, and ultimately, fail.
echoawoo
We've tried running a class challenge to it in Florida the judge laughed at the class certification and denied it without even listening to us.
mesogiria
I don't think so? The government can decide what words government employees will use in writing government documents, surely.
CaptainBeefFoot
I agree with you. The headlines make it seem like a simple freedom of speech issue but it isn't.
mesogiria
Yeah, and it's easy enough to figure it out by imagining it otherwise: do you think the government shouldn't be able to stop an employee who decides to refer to women as 'fat ugly cows' in official documents? I surely have the freedom of speech to say that in my personal life, but the government not letting me write that on the Department of Health website is not violating the First Amendment.
jfd8u438fdsfkds
Both sides, admittedly.
Animorphs
You are one dumb son of a bitch.
jfd8u438fdsfkds
How so?
Sturdycrotch
Not even remotely close at the moment muchacho, troll elsewhere
jfd8u438fdsfkds
TheFIRE.org has a database and 2 out of 3 cases are "from the Left".
DarkZalgo
I'm sure.
jfd8u438fdsfkds
I linked them in the other branch of this thread. Always stand up for your principles, especially when it's "your side" that's violating them.
blueKD
jfd8u438fdsfkds
https://www.thefire.org/research-learn/campus-disinvitation-database#campus-disinvitations/?view_39_filters=%7B%22match%22%3A%22and%22%2C%22rules%22%3A%5B%7B%22field%22%3A%22field_72%22%2C%22operator%22%3A%22is%22%2C%22value%22%3A%22From%20the%20Left%22%2C%22field_name%22%3A%22From%20the%20Right%20or%20Left%20of%20Speaker%22%7D%5D%7D&view_39_page=1
jfd8u438fdsfkds
https://www.thefire.org/research-learn/scholars-under-fire#home/?view_4_filters=%7B%22match%22%3A%22and%22%2C%22rules%22%3A%5B%7B%22field%22%3A%22field_6%22%2C%22operator%22%3A%22is%22%2C%22value%22%3A%22From%20the%20left%22%2C%22field_name%22%3A%22Political%20motivation%22%7D%5D%7D&view_4_page=1
MCFLYYY
K so it's clear you don't know what freedom of speech means, so that explains a lot.
jfd8u438fdsfkds
How so?
madjo
From one of the mentioned cases: "Greer was forced to resign for allegedly creating a “hostile learning environment” and failing to follow procedures such as preparing syllabuses." how is that a curtailing of free speech?!
And that's just one example!
There are multiple on that page where the scholars were asked to resign for not properly doing their job. Hardly stopping ones free speech like what Huckabee is doing. It's not even remotely similar!
jfd8u438fdsfkds
Maybe try looking through multiple cases from both sides instead of trying to cherry-pick specific examples?
stsword
What, did you think this would be the first time in the history of time where "BOTHSIDES!" wasn't horseshit made up to defend the right and attack the left?
ThisGuyPostingThings
A lot of those seem to be "they were criticized" or "they didn't do their job and got in trouble" or have a shaky basis for "from the left".
jfd8u438fdsfkds
Sure, but that goes for the "From the Right" entries, too.