I have a DeSatan fan on twitter absolutely furious that I called that debate a Desantis massacre. Fox NEws has assured them repeatedly Sedantis won and Newsom just blubbered and cried the whole time. However, they refuse to watch the debate, claiming it has been AI altered. Even on Fox's own site. Derp state or some shit.
This week was indeed great. Can't wait for death of musk, Trump and McConnell. If that happened in the same week I'd buy every lottery ticket I could find.
Sadly the war criminal lived 100 years in comfort, the gag order won't work, DeSantis still has years to fuck over Florida, Moms of Liberty will barely take a hit, and Santos should have been expelled months ago or never elected at all. We're grasping at straws here. Sorry. I'm pissy this morning I guess.
Santos stayed in office as long as he did pending an investigation. Democrats didn't want to set a precedent of expelling members without an investigation.
Pessimism kills progress. Take the wins and push for more. These things don't change with everyone sitting there being apathetic. No quicker way to kill momentum than to act like it isn't useful.
DeSantis is term limited so only has a couple more years. after his presidential bid fizzles out i could totally see him pulling a Palin honestly. some claptrap about 'already accomplishing what i needed to do for Florida' and maybe some 'spend time with family' or 'the mainstream media attacks on me are keeping Florida from moving forward' blah blah blah
Ok so.... You have no solutions, but you love to lick that boot. How sad. Maybe someday you'll think for yourself, look outside of the Internet, see how bad it is out there and finally wake up. Or you'll get knifed by a homeless guy first, idc
The one thing the GOP doesn't stand for is campaign finance laws...or it use to be that way. They are good with stealing money but not stealing from each other.
Can I ask a fully sincere question? Do you support the death penalty? I ask because I do, and it's a position that the Left and I have never quite agreed on. Rehabilitation often seems like a fool's goal.
I think the death penalty is right for sadistic murderers, such as Chauvin. And it seems like the entire Left wants the mother fucker dead, and yet I never see anyone just support the death penalty. I don't get it, so I'd like to hear more perspectives.
i think the death penalty is an easy-out. i'd like them to sit and think about it for decades and decades knowing they'll never go outside as a free person ever again. that seems much worse than sitting around a few years and 'later gators!' not to mention the death penalty costs more than imprisonment. and most the methods to carry out the sentence seem purposefully cruel and sadistic even if they claim otherwise. then the big one : maybe the conviction was *wrong*. then who is the murderer?
All fair points I could raise my own beliefs against, but frankly I'm just happy to have what seems to be a genuine response. I shan't DebateLord against you.
Though, I ought to ask: provided that the Death Penalty was made to cost about as much as normal imprisonment, and provided you knew they were guilty beyond a shadow of the doubt (such as in this case), would you still prefer to just put them in a normal prison and hope they die by... running into a shiv?
i don't think people should be shivved or raped in prison either. also not sure on the numbers of death row inmates that have been killed by other prisoners vs. the state but i bet it isn't a significant number. the assorted hypotheticals raised don't really matter since they are hypothetical and we are talking about real people in the real world.
This is the kind of thing the media does to make people seem more like decent people. They lie. They manipulate words in such a way that people they want to cater towards are allowed to use them to present misinformation. Something like "allegedly convicted" is top notch misinformation propaganda. At any point in time, people can "forget" or "misunderstand" the term, and claim "allegedly" to outright lie. Then spread that lie. Then suddenly, a pedophile is not a pedophile to the magats.
Spending a little time in jail for political theater purposes, honestly. Violations = penalties, and judge isn't going to keep nickle-and-diming Trump with meaningless fines that he ignores
It's like he pissed off a Greek god and got a really creative curse. "Your life will be just great as long as you keep your big fat mouth shut, but you won't be able to do it."
Wild, who would expect pieces of shit being shitty. What sort of fuckwit would associate themselves with scum thinking they wouldnt get fucked over somehow.
THANK YOU! Already sick to death of everyone and the media having the rapist male as a blurb or ignored completely but shouting from the rooftops about the hateful woman's consensual (she's not accused of anything by the victim) sex life. Defending or minimizing men's crimes as the status quo again.
also kinda weird they don't seem to have nearly as big an issue with transmen it seems? maybe i have just missed it but seems the trans hate always seems to be with transwomen.
Yeah, the rape accusation involves an actual crime being alleged, where the three-way relationship just shows them to be hypocritical assholes, and we always knew the latter.
Both are worth pointing out, but one is only a problem because of their positions on calling everyone else “deviants”, not because of the act itself.
As of now, it appears that the fact that Bridget *wasn’t* present for one of the sexual encounters is part of the accusation (along with the alcohol et al)
“On the day of the alleged assault, the woman had initially agreed to meet because she thought Bridget Ziegler would be joining them. She canceled when she learned Bridget Ziegler wouldn’t be there, saying she had only agreed to the encounter because she wanted her there.”
“You didn’t bring her and then you did that to me,” she wrote.”
The thing that kind of disappoints me is that the easiest GOP to expel are typically "outsider" to them anyway (gay, POC, etc) so while I'm happy there's one less liar it doesn't really impress me as much as it would if they ever managed to oust one of their Good Ol Boys.
I wish there was a tradition for such an old and seldom used punishment, something non lethal like defenestration from the 2nd floor or being forced to run a gauntlet of geriatric senators with paddles.
I always liked the idea of banishment. You had power here, but now you are no longer welcome here. Especially if we can watch dogs chase the banished out.
I moved from the district just south into his district right before the election. I was disgusted that he won, and I absolutely love my old rep Grace Meng. She's super cool, always has time for you and takes the train like the rest of us. I run in to her on my way to work a few times a month. We need more people in government like her.
brownribbon
I assure you, Kissinger did not and will never meet god.
DaffydeDick
George Santos is free for MoL founders booty party.
16KTS
How many times will Trump get gagged.
rubypilgrim
Take the wins we can get.
zombywoof68
DesdemonaMoor
Plus Hunter Biden agreeing to testify but only if public, is calling the GOP out on their bullshit.
MeasuredByFive
Geesh what Repubs will do for attention.
DorkJedi
I have a DeSatan fan on twitter absolutely furious that I called that debate a Desantis massacre. Fox NEws has assured them repeatedly Sedantis won and Newsom just blubbered and cried the whole time. However, they refuse to watch the debate, claiming it has been AI altered. Even on Fox's own site. Derp state or some shit.
Bunnies007
I'm really surprised that more Imgurians haven't picked up on this: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-67560516
Clayman8
Did...did the wheel finally turn? Are the good days back?
Mikeiller
Not yet, but they're in sight
pleaseacknowledgethecat
crockmonster
keep it coming
PurifiedInTheWatersOfLakeMinnetonka
I’d call that a good start, nothing more.
sightlab
Don’t forget trumps own lawyer testifying that she told him that hiding documents would constitute a crime, and he acknowledged it.
spamsmells
“We removed the homeless from our streets because the president of China is visiting” - Gavin Newsom
phuey200311337
Unbelievable it finally happened
SinisterSlaw
All the best people
Wrinkle666
Gavin Newsom looks like Presidential material to me !
69thStPepper
The only surprise was Kissinger finally kicking it
Omicron416
I could get used to this kind of winning.
HashMaster9k
metalrulercid
This week was indeed great. Can't wait for death of musk, Trump and McConnell. If that happened in the same week I'd buy every lottery ticket I could find.
wedgieweedless
Do not forget pootin !
Lampmonster
Sadly the war criminal lived 100 years in comfort, the gag order won't work, DeSantis still has years to fuck over Florida, Moms of Liberty will barely take a hit, and Santos should have been expelled months ago or never elected at all. We're grasping at straws here. Sorry. I'm pissy this morning I guess.
noneedtodoxme
The real dystopian situation is in the comments, unfortunately.
AnastasiaM007
Santos stayed in office as long as he did pending an investigation. Democrats didn't want to set a precedent of expelling members without an investigation.
Strategicgnomer
Pessimism kills progress. Take the wins and push for more. These things don't change with everyone sitting there being apathetic. No quicker way to kill momentum than to act like it isn't useful.
Totallynotarealbear
Lots to still be pissy about.
anarchoFeline
you are absolutely right so no need to apologize. none of this stuff is actually that impactful.
beesleep
DeSantis is term limited so only has a couple more years. after his presidential bid fizzles out i could totally see him pulling a Palin honestly. some claptrap about 'already accomplishing what i needed to do for Florida' and maybe some 'spend time with family' or 'the mainstream media attacks on me are keeping Florida from moving forward' blah blah blah
Eldibs
You're right that these are small victories at best, but if you don't feel good about small victories you'll never achieve larger ones.
litelbrown
Saying Desantis got smoked by Newsome is kinda dumb. Nobody really won that debate. No minds were changed.
WEWILLADOPTYOURBABYDOTCOM
So, are they going to do something about San Francisco? It is a literal crime shit hole
StewedTomaters
Negative points, days old account...nothing to see here, folks. Move along.
WEWILLADOPTYOURBABYDOTCOM
Ok so.... You have no solutions, but you love to lick that boot. How sad. Maybe someday you'll think for yourself, look outside of the Internet, see how bad it is out there and finally wake up. Or you'll get knifed by a homeless guy first, idc
StewedTomaters
Venting online is not a substitution for therapy.
LurkMasterP
Yep. Debates are theater these days, nothing more.
Bystandr
Santos was a pathological lying crook whose likely to be found to be an embezzling thief. The only surprise was so many GQP voting him out
xj4low
The one thing the GOP doesn't stand for is campaign finance laws...or it use to be that way. They are good with stealing money but not stealing from each other.
DWolf
He stole money from a congressman and his mother. You're supposed to take *poor* people's money.
certainlynotaserialkiller
and the killer of george floys foolishly ran straight into a shank in prison. we pray for the wellbeing of that poor shank...
Psychobeanz
Give it Kyle Rittenhouse's PTSD dog
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certainlynotaserialkiller
https://apnews.com/article/derek-chauvin-george-floyd-prison-stabbing-f24cde6aa28877d034530c2dc40ef7ea
Warthog2
tbh, prisons should be safer and not a place for extrajudicial punishment and also that guy deserves every second of his prison sentence.
AnastasiaM007
Oddest of all, on Black Friday.
gtollie
Perpetrator said that the date was picked as an homage to the Black Lives Matter movement
oopsydsy
"He ran into my knife. He ran into my knife 10 times."
FairyKingOberon
HE HAD IT COMIN!
bluewitch
If you'da been there! If you'da seen it!
ThePunishersVengefulBrother
21 times he fell onto it
FairyKingOberon
HE HAD IT COMING
certainlynotaserialkiller
that poor shank
MisterBambu
Can I ask a fully sincere question? Do you support the death penalty? I ask because I do, and it's a position that the Left and I have never quite agreed on. Rehabilitation often seems like a fool's goal.
I think the death penalty is right for sadistic murderers, such as Chauvin. And it seems like the entire Left wants the mother fucker dead, and yet I never see anyone just support the death penalty. I don't get it, so I'd like to hear more perspectives.
beesleep
i think the death penalty is an easy-out. i'd like them to sit and think about it for decades and decades knowing they'll never go outside as a free person ever again. that seems much worse than sitting around a few years and 'later gators!' not to mention the death penalty costs more than imprisonment. and most the methods to carry out the sentence seem purposefully cruel and sadistic even if they claim otherwise. then the big one : maybe the conviction was *wrong*. then who is the murderer?
MisterBambu
All fair points I could raise my own beliefs against, but frankly I'm just happy to have what seems to be a genuine response. I shan't DebateLord against you.
Though, I ought to ask: provided that the Death Penalty was made to cost about as much as normal imprisonment, and provided you knew they were guilty beyond a shadow of the doubt (such as in this case), would you still prefer to just put them in a normal prison and hope they die by... running into a shiv?
beesleep
i don't think people should be shivved or raped in prison either. also not sure on the numbers of death row inmates that have been killed by other prisoners vs. the state but i bet it isn't a significant number. the assorted hypotheticals raised don't really matter since they are hypothetical and we are talking about real people in the real world.
beesleep
for instance. this makes killing of other death row inmates seem exceptionally rare : https://www.cbsnews.com/news/san-quentin-prison-california-one-condemned-inmate-kills-another-in-rare-death-row-slaying-2018-10-06/
dirtmarker
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monkey484
If he was convicted why continue using "allegedly"? Seems like that doesn't fit anymore post conviction
Zalm
This is the kind of thing the media does to make people seem more like decent people. They lie. They manipulate words in such a way that people they want to cater towards are allowed to use them to present misinformation. Something like "allegedly convicted" is top notch misinformation propaganda. At any point in time, people can "forget" or "misunderstand" the term, and claim "allegedly" to outright lie. Then spread that lie. Then suddenly, a pedophile is not a pedophile to the magats.
JoshuaFalken
If someone presented this idea in a writing room for a TV drama, it would get dismissed as being too unbelievable.
Shaodyn
Donald Trump was told to shut up. Again. How long do you think he'll last before the compulsion to shout his every thought to the world overcomes him?
yalczero
He started attacking the Judge's wife after the order was reinstated, so not long at all.
StewedTomaters
Seriously? Off to Google I go, yet again.
StewedTomaters
What a fucking moron. I can kind of see where this will end.
Shaodyn
With him actually, physically gagged to prevent him from destroying the work his lawyers are trying to do?
StewedTomaters
Spending a little time in jail for political theater purposes, honestly. Violations = penalties, and judge isn't going to keep nickle-and-diming Trump with meaningless fines that he ignores
HashMaster9k
Depends on how much time he wants to spend in a jail cell for it. Pretty sure he's on Engoron's last nerve. And he's not one of Trump's constituency.
ClutteredDesk
I'm 85% sure he violated the order within minutes of returning to his residence.
Shaodyn
It's like he pissed off a Greek god and got a really creative curse. "Your life will be just great as long as you keep your big fat mouth shut, but you won't be able to do it."
ChelVanin
Makes sense. He’s never been able to last long.
NetflixIsLove
*Homophobic Moms of Liberty founder gets caught in bisexual throuple AND husband accused of rape by the third partner while the wife was away.
trikucian
Are we sure this isn’t just Onision in disguise?
LaughingInTheFaceOfDanger
Oh wow. I was wondering how the rape thing worked with a throuple. That clears it up. Yikes.
The best people & family values /s
Conservatives are a joke.
datphone777365
Wild, who would expect pieces of shit being shitty. What sort of fuckwit would associate themselves with scum thinking they wouldnt get fucked over somehow.
NacLac
"I can fix her/them"
Imalwaysready
She’ll double down and say he’s been reading those nasty, graphic novels aimed at children at look at what they made him do!
SrPootStank
Probably played those violent vidya games too !
BelicoseBravado
Husband and Florida GOP Chairman
dingo8yrbaby
"The laws apply to thee but not to me."
wereallwronghere
THANK YOU! Already sick to death of everyone and the media having the rapist male as a blurb or ignored completely but shouting from the rooftops about the hateful woman's consensual (she's not accused of anything by the victim) sex life. Defending or minimizing men's crimes as the status quo again.
Woahouch110
We all know that’s not the type of gay they have an issue with.
LaughingInTheFaceOfDanger
Bingo
beesleep
also kinda weird they don't seem to have nearly as big an issue with transmen it seems? maybe i have just missed it but seems the trans hate always seems to be with transwomen.
HomeRunWoman
Yeah, the rape accusation involves an actual crime being alleged, where the three-way relationship just shows them to be hypocritical assholes, and we always knew the latter.
Both are worth pointing out, but one is only a problem because of their positions on calling everyone else “deviants”, not because of the act itself.
Flobmmando
InkyBlinkyPinkyAndClyde
Also if her husband is a rapist, I don't see how that reflects on her. Unless something comes out that shows she knew and was ok with it.
HomeRunWoman
As of now, it appears that the fact that Bridget *wasn’t* present for one of the sexual encounters is part of the accusation (along with the alcohol et al)
“On the day of the alleged assault, the woman had initially agreed to meet because she thought Bridget Ziegler would be joining them. She canceled when she learned Bridget Ziegler wouldn’t be there, saying she had only agreed to the encounter because she wanted her there.”
“You didn’t bring her and then you did that to me,” she wrote.”
HomeRunWoman
Source: https://www.politico.com/news/2023/12/02/rape-accusation-florida-republican-party-chair-ziegler-00129753
nclu
And let's not forget that husband is a Florida GOP chairman
Guttfunk
Thekindofkindlyman
CaptSheffield
What is a throuple for God's sakes. Is it a new thing or just someone who wants to be cute and make a cute name.
CraftyGiant
I was in one 22 years ago so it ain't new.
tokenhooker
Three + Couple = Throuple. It's not a new thing.
classGemJunkie
Well I'll be frank I didn't expect Santos to finally fly. Look at that, isn't it marvelous. Good work US, keep it going.
FairyKingOberon
The thing that kind of disappoints me is that the easiest GOP to expel are typically "outsider" to them anyway (gay, POC, etc) so while I'm happy there's one less liar it doesn't really impress me as much as it would if they ever managed to oust one of their Good Ol Boys.
knoxgaWrecker
Hi frank.
hyperchondriac
I wish there was a tradition for such an old and seldom used punishment, something non lethal like defenestration from the 2nd floor or being forced to run a gauntlet of geriatric senators with paddles.
VaultGirl69
I always liked the idea of banishment. You had power here, but now you are no longer welcome here. Especially if we can watch dogs chase the banished out.
WhoAteAllTheBananasAndTookAShitOnTheCarpet
Release the hounds
Totallynotarealbear
He committed the only cardinal sin of being a republican. He fucked with their money.
Psychobeanz
I'm not in his former district but I'm next to it. Proud of my state for taking care of business there.
tkdtkd
I moved from the district just south into his district right before the election. I was disgusted that he won, and I absolutely love my old rep Grace Meng. She's super cool, always has time for you and takes the train like the rest of us. I run in to her on my way to work a few times a month. We need more people in government like her.
Psychobeanz
Absolutely. I'm in the 2nd, just sucked coming into a red majority district from where I lived in Brooklyn
DaMummy
Is he actually removed from Congress or is this just another "impeachment"?
xj4low
They changed the locks on his office last night and took his name off the door. Gone.
TobiOfTheAkatsuki
He got the boot. Didn't even walk out of the building before all his shit started being taken out of his office.
xj4low
He walked out before the gavel signaled end of vote.
bloodtaker3
He's OUT
ThePunishersVengefulBrother
I think the vote was to expel him. I would imagine a special election in his district needs to happen now.
xj4low
And I wonder if his prior district will vote republican again.
RockKickass
I think it’ll be scheduled for Feb 2nd
comacomacomacomachameleon
i was going to say "make his campaign pay for it" but then i remembered he embezzled all his campaign funds