I tried to sit down and finally watch this movie, but I often feel secondhand embarrassment and the inciting incident was too much for me. It took the guy admitting to a crime he had no idea he was admitting to to get me to switch to something else. I watched the Wonder Man show instead.
Starfleet didn't install a matter-antimatter warp core on a Constitution-class in 2245. The Constitution-class didn't enter service until 2245. And it wasn't equipped with the Mark II dilithium articulation chamber until 2253. However, in 2253, the correct antimatter injection timing would be 0.004 seconds before peak plasma convergence.
You know, when you think about it, there must be some WILD conspiracy theories around Earth First Contact, when you consider how it actually went down. With the borg and the time travel. Like, up to a point, everything will be known and documents, Cochrane, Lilly, the dude at the bar. EVERYTHING. Then at the most important point, a LOT of stuff suddenly get's super vague. Who were the guys he went up with? What happened to the sensor logs from the Phoenix? Where the hell was Lilly?
Then to cap it all off, Cohrane himself mysteriously just dissappears one day, only be discovered later by Kirk! (and event that never got any follow through, it's not like he died in the episode either, he's still out there potentially.) The conspiracy theories about it, by the 25th century must be NUTS. I wonder if Starfleet ever actually filled the blanks in after the E came back after First Contact?
"With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably....oh my gawd what a f*ckin nightmare!"
I always had a problem with that scene of My Cousin Vinny... It's not like you can't just retrofit a car because you want newer wheels or different style of tires that you couldn't use otherwise... and that's assuming the rims are different dimensions. Like what if the '78 uses tubeless and the '65 uses tubed and you want the better thermal properties and lower rolling resistance of tubeless. You can't JUST use tubeless tires, they won't seal, you have to swap the rims too.
in my early poor man's driving days I'd use re-threads cause no money, and they'd be bad, so sometimes had to add tubes so they'd stay hard! change the mags? ROFL nah... (I know, I don't know how I live with myself either) -but yeah on an old mitsi mirage, not a sports car!
But then the car impounded would be evidence of that modification if there were any. The crux of the argument wasnt if the boys did or didnt kill the clerk, it was to prove the evidence used against them to support the charges were wrong or unreliable. Technically at the end of the movie they werent even proved that they didnt kill the clerk, the court was made aware that a more plausible culprit(s) matching the boy's description and situation were caught in another state with the murder weapon.
And then the prosecutor dropped their case when they were made aware that their evidence for their case was lacking and heard that their evidence matched up better against the other guys that got arrested
ok but it doesn't make any sense... I ran out of room to get into other issues I have like for example: it takes place in the 90s, we're expected to believe a car from '65 still has the OEM, factory installed tires? And if a prosecutor is going to try to use the tire tracks as evidence, they should be inspecting the car's tires to make sure they actually match. AND ANOTHER THING Car tires aren't unique to models or years of car. They're off the shelf from tire manufacturers.
Regardless of the facts of the case and why you'd question why a car has 20+ year old tires, the facts of the case are the facts of the case. The persecutor's goal is to convince the jury that the tires being a match is enough to make it evidence and not think beyond that. And the defending lawyer (Vinny) arguing that the tires being a match wasn't sufficient enough evidence, by not only arguing that the tires were the most popular model of tires sold on the market to dismiss the tires as-
Evidence, but also use the "expert" testimony that the car they had couldn't have made those tracks in the way in the photo. Vinny's whole character and point was he could pick apart evidence and testimonies by presenting conflicting information. If he wasn't good at arguing and spinning the conversation to his favor, the the poor "evidence" would have been enough to convict the boys.
Or not, she could just be very well informed despite not being in engineering like in the movie. Plus Starfleet officers can have random talents unrelated to their career path
Riker also started in engineering and transferred to command, while Worf and Geordi started in command, transferred to security and engineering, before both returning to the command division later
SlyMrFox
I tried to sit down and finally watch this movie, but I often feel secondhand embarrassment and the inciting incident was too much for me. It took the guy admitting to a crime he had no idea he was admitting to to get me to switch to something else. I watched the Wonder Man show instead.
EMHPicardo
AbsoluteKilljoy
My commanding officer vinny
BeTheFirstToComment
Lt Mona Lisa Vito
dev89
Joe Pesci wearing a skant: I had a regulation uniform. All of the replicators were broken and all they had was this stashed in the shuttle.
DrowningLessons
AI uniforms >:(
iLoveItWhenMyFingersSmellLikePussy
And I thought she couldn't get any hotter
youreathing
"Da two Yulians..."
sfbiker
I thought that was Q from TNG at first
gablestout
Starfleet didn't install a matter-antimatter warp core on a Constitution-class in 2245. The Constitution-class didn't enter service until 2245. And it wasn't equipped with the Mark II dilithium articulation chamber until 2253. However, in 2253, the correct antimatter injection timing would be 0.004 seconds before peak plasma convergence.
Botticelliii
mward1984
You know, when you think about it, there must be some WILD conspiracy theories around Earth First Contact, when you consider how it actually went down. With the borg and the time travel. Like, up to a point, everything will be known and documents, Cochrane, Lilly, the dude at the bar. EVERYTHING. Then at the most important point, a LOT of stuff suddenly get's super vague. Who were the guys he went up with? What happened to the sensor logs from the Phoenix? Where the hell was Lilly?
mward1984
Then to cap it all off, Cohrane himself mysteriously just dissappears one day, only be discovered later by Kirk! (and event that never got any follow through, it's not like he died in the episode either, he's still out there potentially.)
The conspiracy theories about it, by the 25th century must be NUTS. I wonder if Starfleet ever actually filled the blanks in after the E came back after First Contact?
SolarSerpent13
"With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably....oh my gawd what a f*ckin nightmare!"
CeoHuntingSeason
its amazing how fast you all gave up on fighting AI and just embracing it lmao
TheMoonBnuuy
I always had a problem with that scene of My Cousin Vinny...
It's not like you can't just retrofit a car because you want newer wheels or different style of tires that you couldn't use otherwise... and that's assuming the rims are different dimensions. Like what if the '78 uses tubeless and the '65 uses tubed and you want the better thermal properties and lower rolling resistance of tubeless. You can't JUST use tubeless tires, they won't seal, you have to swap the rims too.
punditzy
in my early poor man's driving days I'd use re-threads cause no money, and they'd be bad, so sometimes had to add tubes so they'd stay hard! change the mags? ROFL nah... (I know, I don't know how I live with myself either) -but yeah on an old mitsi mirage, not a sports car!
Ivalicenyan
But then the car impounded would be evidence of that modification if there were any. The crux of the argument wasnt if the boys did or didnt kill the clerk, it was to prove the evidence used against them to support the charges were wrong or unreliable. Technically at the end of the movie they werent even proved that they didnt kill the clerk, the court was made aware that a more plausible culprit(s) matching the boy's description and situation were caught in another state with the murder weapon.
Ivalicenyan
And then the prosecutor dropped their case when they were made aware that their evidence for their case was lacking and heard that their evidence matched up better against the other guys that got arrested
TheMoonBnuuy
ok but it doesn't make any sense... I ran out of room to get into other issues I have
like for example: it takes place in the 90s, we're expected to believe a car from '65 still has the OEM, factory installed tires?
And if a prosecutor is going to try to use the tire tracks as evidence, they should be inspecting the car's tires to make sure they actually match.
AND ANOTHER THING
Car tires aren't unique to models or years of car. They're off the shelf from tire manufacturers.
Ivalicenyan
Regardless of the facts of the case and why you'd question why a car has 20+ year old tires, the facts of the case are the facts of the case. The persecutor's goal is to convince the jury that the tires being a match is enough to make it evidence and not think beyond that. And the defending lawyer (Vinny) arguing that the tires being a match wasn't sufficient enough evidence, by not only arguing that the tires were the most popular model of tires sold on the market to dismiss the tires as-
Ivalicenyan
Evidence, but also use the "expert" testimony that the car they had couldn't have made those tracks in the way in the photo. Vinny's whole character and point was he could pick apart evidence and testimonies by presenting conflicting information. If he wasn't good at arguing and spinning the conversation to his favor, the the poor "evidence" would have been enough to convict the boys.
TheMoonBnuuy
That's not generally how competent prosecutors work, because they have to be anticipating the defense's potential strategies to counter the evidence
Ivalicenyan
It's a movie bro. Don't know what to tell you. They had many candid moments with Vinny and his girl about how good of an arguer he was.
mak10z
Her uniform should be Yellow, as she'd be in the engineer career path.
REOJackwagon
There was an issue with the replicator, it was out of yellow ink
HighSorcerer
She could be an engineer that transferred to command because she wanted to captain her own ship.
chinesemario
Or not, she could just be very well informed despite not being in engineering like in the movie. Plus Starfleet officers can have random talents unrelated to their career path
JayDeeDubs
The Best kind of correct
kender00
https://media3.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPWE1NzM3M2U1Z2xpbmx1eW0yd2d1ZTVkY3FsOXo1NXg1cTBoZDk2cmdpZWJhMGVuNyZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/NmyEjXTmvSbxm/200w.webp
heroesblood
Actually, she'd be in a blue uniform but have yellow uniform knowledge.
abeansits
We got a neeeeeerd here.
mak10z
080080
but she's not an engineer. she's an off duty helmsman.
my father was an engineer. his father was an engineer. my mother's father was an engineer. my three brothers are engineers.
ensign vito, your family is obviously qualified. but have you ever worked as an engineer?
yeah, on my father's starship, yeah.
as an engineer. what did you do on your father's starship.
reset EPS conduits, re-align plasma injectors, reroute power buffers, recalibrate warp field coils...
keyserv
There's no rank buttons, either. Pretty sure you need to be at least an ensign to work on a star ship.
justheretocommentonce
Unless you are Miles O'Brien.
somethingnotyettaken
Or Wesley Crusher.
Jarjarthejedi
You can start in one career path and transfer to another, as Janeway did (originally blue shirt).
IAmLeegion
Riker also started in engineering and transferred to command, while Worf and Geordi started in command, transferred to security and engineering, before both returning to the command division later
vnqx
Despite qualifying as an expert for her background working with her mechanic dad, she was an unemployed hairdresser in the movie
nobody53212
So blue then since I think hair care would fall under medical.
FaeVikingPrincess
I actually do believe there is an episode where a character is going to get a haircut and the barber was wearing a blue uniform, you may be correct
FaeVikingPrincess
I was wrong. The alien was just blue not his uniform, in fact it looked like he wasn't in a uniform so maybe not even starfleet but just a civilian.
gablestout
What color uniforms do unemployed Starfleet hairdressers wear?
n0gal
Employed ones wear grey(possibly blue?)/yellow: https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Mot
Eldibs
Starfleet uses civillian barbers -
thedudeman519
Red shirts easily
ThinkThisOut
Red, look at the picture
gablestout