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confanity
Next time, on "Why didn't you go ahead and pre-invent that thing you'd never needed until now?"
Rifneno
Fun fact: Wakanda (in comics at least) has the cure to cancer. But they're not sharing. Because fuck you, that's why.
IacobusMarcellus
So advanced, so humanitarian, why the hell do people keep trying to prop them up as like the next step in society or some crap
imooforyou
Its a fucking comic book movie. Get a grip.
IacobusMarcellus
I agree, but people keep trying to make Wakanda out to be #1 real and worse as some model for how we should run our society
DigitalMau
because "WE WUZ KANGS N SHIET"
Choc113
Humanitarian? More like epic dicks. Part of Africa but does bugger all about the starvation,War,Aids Ebola etc running rampant there! (1)
Choc113
(2) Hope the other African nations team up,invade take all there stuff and wipe these arrogant pricks of the map personally.
Flickerish
You mean doing this to America?
UrielDArcAngel
It must have been nap time for the battle rhinos...
Angrad
That’s exactly what I was thinking during that whole dang scene!
CurrentLevelOfAdulting
I was really hoping to see them too!!
DukeofDeception
Only a portion of the Border Tribe remained (since their leader sided with an usurper) I am sure he took the rhinos when he left.
blaChek
UrielDArcAngel
I take it you didn't watch Black Panther...lol
blaChek
I did
PhunPhact
Also, wtf was up with Vision?? Buddy should've been a lot stronger.
mentalpiggie
Yeah motherfucker was weak as shit, most useless "superhero" in the movie, and magic boy hiding his stone instead of using it to fight 1/2
mentalpiggie
But then handing it over anyway? Like bitch you could've turned Thanos into a baby or into a state where he wasn't born yet wyd?? 2/2
BrieflySalmon
He used it to view all time streams for one where they win. You can assume the only one they won is the one where Thanos got the time stone.
mentalpiggie
That was another thing, of course it was only 1 way they could win, clichéd bs.
GingerLaird
I would've learned genetic mutagens, and hand em' out to make luxodon warriors, because nobody gets past a Humanoid Elephant.
VegansCauseAutism
PETA probably protested against using endangered animals as war machinery...
GingerLaird
Ironically, their protest involved the exploitation of rhinos to block major intersections around the Studio lots.
UrielDArcAngel
This would not surprise me in the least...
ShinySephiroth
Wakanda nonsense is that!? - T'Challa, probably
MatrixDM
PETA can eat dicks.
gaijinsmash
Username checks out
diphenhydraminehcl50mg
But... They're cgi
somecallmeFinn
penguinpab
Dammit, beat me to it. “Let’s go into battle in floating convertibles.”
nobodyreadsusernamesanyway
Regarding that 3rd picture...
Coincidence?
Reviire
Man imagine being run over by that fucking thing.
MoreAshyThanLarry
I think not.
ImmaNeedBoutTreeFiddy
TheDaharMaster
"We will kill until no Harkonnen breathes Arrakeen air."
fluhatinrapper
The spice. The spice must flow.
SvenPek
Did the same inspiration go into those Star Wars prequel thingies?
Brewdoc
TrombeOverride
That's a Harkonnen vehicle, Paul Muad'Dib would firmly disapprove of this message.
GodEmperorLetoAtreidesII
I can concur. His memory is shouting, loudly.
DCprinces9000
Dune: infinity worms
Cassiraa
yea, probably...
HermesTheRobot
He who controls the spice controls the universe.
vulturedoors
I thought they lifted em from The Phantom Menace.
Sekolah
I think they are meant to be War Wheels
somecallmeFinn
I mean, probably not, but can you blame them? It’s fucking dune. It’s hard to get away from it’s influence
ComplexSystemsGuy
Technologically advanced clearly. Well versed in the strategies of warfare? Well...
ImageShare12345
I'd like to think they were severely crippled due to the recent civil war that occurred in Wakanda. It takes time to rebuild war machines.
MegaDeuce
I seem to remember a "high speed" air chase where both Wakandan planes were going like 40 mph
Quessan
To be fair, in Black Panther they say those spear shots can blow up a tank.
DigitalMau
yea but they suck against infantry. poor rate of fire and it only kills one enemy per hit. its overkill, you need aoe when youre outnumbered
Quessan
Yeah I kinda expected some sort of blast radius from them
drenix
Still kinda mad they killed Warmonger, sure he chose that, but could've kept as an advisor or some shit, hell could've been benefitial 1/2
IProvideFakeContext
*Killmonger
drenix
Yeah Killmonger, just a brainfart.
drenix
Having 2 with the Black Panther power in that fight, plus his war experience. 2/2
OtterAvalanche
Yeah, that would require him to go along willingly.
drenix
True, but he seemed "reasonable" in a way but also too "I want rule by power" at the same time, shame actually.
SometimesISayHistoryStuff
His entire character was based around living on his own terms. I don't think he could take an advisory role even if he'd be good at it.
domestomp
he said he wont be a prisoner and to just kill him
Filanwizard
Stargate SG-1 must not exist in MCU or they would have known that pew pew Spears are poor weapons in war.
ChipsSaltGravy
oi! you with the skirt! get that target swinging!
C0mtraya
Iceblade09
I greet friends like this once in a while and they always look at me like I'm crazy..
Zaronis
This *holds up a staff weapon* is a weapon of terror. It is made to intimidate the enemy. This *holds up P-90* is a weapon of war.
Reviire
With the technology they had, they could make some pretty terrifying weapons, though. Especially in the size of those staves.
LetMeGoogleThatShtForYou
*me "eeeeunnnmmmmph 'dragging a cart loaded with GAU-8/A Avenger' "This one is to do both"
Ravenwing14
brings out Sarin, the poop/piss/cry/vomit/spasm-yourself-to-death gas. "And TBH this one is just really messed up. Do not touch this shit"
TheManInTheWall
*Brings out puppy* and this is for ending the war and making friends again! - so you can build more weapons behind their backs
Zaronis
It is made to kill your enemy. Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjlCVW_ouL8
Dionysus187
"The female?"
r3dl8dy
We accept your gifts, with gratitude. And humility.
moksanity
I loved every second of that. Pretty sure I've gotta watch the whole show now.
mirria
I think one of the key moments you realize how badly the Gua'uld forces are outmatched is when they fire guided missiles through the gate
cadaniels
Yep, it's definitely rewatch time. I wonder if it's still on Amazon.
RaptorDactyl
It’s not, but they frequently rotate their prime shows. Keep your eyes peeled.
moksanity
I just picked up season 1, I've never seen it before. A lot of people seem to like it, so here's hoping I do too!
darkhalfbreed
"Guns are primitive weapons"-throws spear-
SomeCrazyNerd
They had laser shields, and laser guns in their spears though
darkhalfbreed
Fair point, but it doesn't stop that line from sounding douche and ignorant.
BritishBatman
They have those dragonfly planes and battle rhinos, and those spears are supposed to shoot off a tank-shell of power
ImageShare12345
If I'm remembering correctly, 99% of those got destroyed during the civil war... minus the Rhinos (which would have not helped much).
NooooooooThisIsPatrick
FutureHylian
"Why didnt yo-" "yea imma cut you off right there and remind you we were sort of on a time limit because the world was gon blow up"
Sauroctonus
I like how they made the buildings look like a futuristic version of Great Zimbabwe.
whatupcorgibutt
They actually do have an Air Force in black panther and they’re highly specialized. I just imagine they couldn’t bring them out for budget
skirtwearingdude
They teamed up with Thor to take down the ships as they were escaping
drenix
Plus they "were" around just not so much on screen, you can see them going down after people started dissapearing
Combatmatt
Fuck, now i gotta watch it a third time
drenix
Well they were only around near the end of the battle when the things were trying to bail and Thor destroyed most of them but hardly seen
fluhatinrapper
Budget? Fuck that noise. This is like the biggest movie ever. Can't spare to toss a few planes in the air. Prob just weak writing.
sum1ne1
Half a billion dollars I believe
Archer1551
When i saw this i heard someone say, seriously they only have spears?
cancerriddenlung
aleister94
They said In black panther their laser Spears were Strong enough to destroy tanks
CapedPersuaderJ
"Why didn't you just run the synapses in series?" "? I didn't make him, you'll have to talk to the evil robot we built in three days"
PiGiSpi
Haha, yeah I would have some choice words for Shuri
DVSBSTrD
"The evil robot who built himself in three days. Also, we were short on vibranium based technology, so it was beyond our means anyway."
urhedsonfire
I love infinity war but that was by far the most unnecessary most asshole line that made the final cut.
cabuph
“We didn’t expect that we would ever be able to live without the rock in his head”
dennydorko
Stating the obvious here, but Shuri's kind of a fucking brat.
DevonGronka
Also, I thought the point of Wakanda was that they didn't want to build up an army to invade other nations, you know? so why would they 1/2
DevonGronka
need expensive tanks or an air force? They have a giant force shield and camouflage for defense.
TheYoungBear
They were literally stood next to there airforce just before the battle, although I wonder what a wakandan armored column would look like
TheYoungBear
their, even
D33RLORD
Mostly depends on whether or not Thanos got to the reality stone before ultron.
sammoticus
"Also, just for the record - kind of been out of town the last couple years. You know. No big deal. Outer space and all that."
TheFastpaws
Well it is more important to push the Wakanda black power bit. Then you know just get back to the better parts of the movie.
Shockandawmanwasthatdissapointing
I study neuro. This line made no fucking sense and pissed me off to an irrationally high degree
MundaneFinality
It might just be the OE kool-aid from college, but wouldnt a polymorphic structure make it easier for her to replace the connections from //
MundaneFinality
// the stone with something else?
darklanser
OE Kool-aid? You mean Cisco?
ruferto
when she said this i thought she was stupid because then it would lead to a failure in one node bringing down everything or dropping 1/2
SomeCoolName123
Ah yes, you seem to know a lot about made up science. /r/iamverysmart
ruferto
nah, basic circuits. Ex: When a string of christmas lights goes out if you remove a bulb? Cause it's wired in series. 1/2
ruferto
But this doesnt happen if a bulb goes out in your house. Cause houses are wired w/ parrallel. 2/2
SomeCoolName123
That's not really what they were saying in the movie, because what they said in the movie was fake science.
ruferto
overall performance 2/2
Shockandawmanwasthatdissapointing
This line was stupid because in order to construct a functioning brain or communication system of any kind EVERYTHING HAS TO COMMUNICATE
javer80
Right? Bruce Banner is one of the Marvel universe's greatest multidisciplinary geniuses. That scene done did him dirty.
McMasterx
Also: a) he was fucking tired, b) He's more worried about the Evil Thumb killing 1/2 of all life in the universe, than a fucking computer.
Combatmatt
Especially with how in Peter Parkers class room they had a picture of banner as one of the greater minds in their history
Shockandawmanwasthatdissapointing
It was literally just thrown in there to make her look smarter. They took a bunch of multisyllabic words and shoved them into a sentence
HypnoJack
Bruce has been kind of dim after Age Of Ultron. Probably for comedic purposes.
charger1369
Yeah I'm kind of wondering why this scene was in the movie, because they didn't even build vision. Ultron built him. What was that about?
HypnoJack
That's an error I wouldn't have expected Marvel Studios to make. Disappointing.
RandomStranger55
So it makes sense that Bruce Banner wouldn't know, but someone who specializes in Vibranium tech would?
ajvz
It was about pushing shuri as the most smartest persun evar!!!
Shockandawmanwasthatdissapointing
this
charger1369
What I mean is, why was bruce banner giving her details on how they built vision when they didn't even build vision?
odinigh
Except they did build vision.
thatdudegenso
Ultron built vision. Tony and Bruce just installed the OS..... Vision is essentially Windows
HD226868
Kinda wonder what would've happened if Ultron did win, consume the planet, and then Thanos arrived. We saw how strong Ultron grew, so fast.
RNeao
Wait when did we start talking about Transformers?
toneman238
Thisusernameisalreadyinyouse
Ultron wanted to kill all life, so maybe he and Thanos would get along somewhat.
McMasterx
Except that Ultron's new body included the Mind Stone in his forehead.
Rifneno
If Ultron was a smart, scary AI villain like the Reapers (pre-ending)? Ultron would stomp. But MCU Ultron was a tard.
Raileks
Ultron: My machines are ultra efficient and use less than 70% of the energy organics use. Thanos: Ok we're good then bro.
DigitalMau
they still require resources though
Impressive44
Thanos: Oh also... I need that yellow gem in your head. *Yank*
ff7cstrife
Ultron wouldn’t have had to stay within the human scale. He would’ve had an army of gundam sized robots shitting on thanos.
DevonGronka
or armies or virus-like nano bots that just consume everything in their path to self-replicate.
isthiswhereiputmyusernameat
Grey goo! Land on a planet, devour everything, turn it into grey goo (trillions of nano bots) launch for a new planet, repeat process.
DevonGronka
I like the idea of Thanos landing and being all "I demand your service" and ultron being all "lol what?" and just watching thanos disolve.
HD226868
Yeah. Probably with much better tech than in his movie too, since he'd have years to advance unbothered.
Deathsagaxx
unmolested
Darthballin
Makes it sound like theres a sexual predator that prefers autonoma as its victims.
HD226868
Yeah, that's what I meant. Fighting off sleep atm.
cyno01
https://www.reddit.com/r/whowouldwin/comments/8j1cej/how_would_infinity_war_go_if_the_avengers_had/
wadatahmydamie
I feel like you should screenshot and post that. Call me fascinated
olekingcole001
Doooot
lladnar700
This is worthy of a •
CptBronson
By the time thanos went to Earth he had two infinity stones. Vision was clearly fodder the whole movie and he killed ultron. Thanos stomps.
HD226868
Does he? In this case Ultron is able to grow and improve practically unrestrained for years, and we saw how far he came in days.
CptBronson
How do you improve beyond vibranium and an infinity stone while remaining on earth? Its the best earth has.
HD226868
It's limited, isn't it? Those don't improve, but he's also not getting more. So take the iron and copper and such and improve those.
steve77777777
he killed Ultron because he was already in shambles. vision also had help.
bane13
It would have been a world destroying battle between a world of Ultron bots and all of Thanos's armies. Thanos still would have won easily.
btimup
I don't think Thanos would be interested in Ultron
HandiCaptain
If Ultron had won he'd be the one with the mind stone. Thanos would most definitely be interested.
btimup
Oh yeah that, but I don't think he'd take interest in fighting Ultron as much as the Avengers, more so just to obtain the stone
PiGiSpi
Would Ultron be part of the "snap"? He is synthetic after all
Janthran
The infinity gauntlet wouldn't have destroyed half of Ultron's bots, though..
MiniYams
That doesn't matter so much, he ported out when he used the guantlet, the fact that they'd still be there would be meaningless to him.
FutureHylian
Destroying half of all life is the end goal. He isnt doing it to remove an obstacle.
DanBearCat
Depends on the definition of life Thanos is using. A sapient machine is just as capable of depleting resources as a sapient ape.
flikrdoodles
Reality stone. He decides what he's destroying.
MrRandom314159
That leads to a good question, are there any robotic sentient races (i.e. the Geth from Mass Effect) and were they affected by the "Snap"?
Sidorakh
Should ask the Chronicons from Agents of Shield
HD226868
I don't know, would he? A few more years to advance his tech unmolested, I think Ultron could've turned into a proper Paperclip Maximizer.
sweatshopkids
Thanos would easily molest him.
HD226868
Doubt it. Look how much trouble Thanos had vs Iron Man and Co. And there'd be no Peter to screw things up last minute.
EvilDonuts6
I understood that reference.
level100gastly
With the help of Sigma!
HD226868
Sigma? Jog my memory?
GingerLaird
Not much, his main goal was to prevent humanity from hurting itself by wiping out humanity. After that he could just sit and stagnate.
shogun111
Ultrons whole deal was evolution though that's why he kept upgrading his primary form and would destroy the previous model
HellaFishsticks
I'm hoping Ultron returns while Vision is down
Roshiro
I HOPE KILLMONGER ISN'T ACTUALLY DEAD
HD226868
Pretty sure in the movies Ultron is deader than dead.
N0HATS
What about "Squidward"?
Superkroot
Probably dead. Though who knows, his powers and abilities are all new in the movie.
HD226868
What about him? Drop a nuke on him and see him telekinesis out of that.
professorlemonwood
She has the tech advantage but stark has the inventor/genious thing going for him. HE BUILT IT IN A CAVE ERMAGERD!
Choc113
Exactly. "We are superior because we have the super metal" "No the super metal is superior, you where just lucky"
confanity
To be fair, I doubt many teenagers would be able to do what she'd done, even with special metal.
WhoYouGonnaCallGhostNappa
To be fair to wakanda the pew pew spears as described here are anti tank weapons
SometimesISayHistoryStuff
True, but, formation fight? That alone means they need to research modern tactics. I mean it looks cool as hell, but that tech could do so 1
SometimesISayHistoryStuff
2 much more. I guess it does kind of work out since the main force were a disorganized mob. Apparently Thanos' military needs to research
SometimesISayHistoryStuff
3 more too.
mentalpiggie
Didn't do shit against those panzer things that got taken down by some light submachine guns by bird guy.
ImageShare12345
Doesn't anyone else remember the fact that Wakanda recently had its military force crippled by their civil war in the Black Panther movie?
Cerebralbore101
This is what happens when a country has never been to war before. "Our army is the best" *Gets completely fucked by superior tactics*
GreatWhiteNorthEh
My problem with Wakanda is they tried to sell me the idea that they're super advanced then it's a deathmatch to determine absolute rule. Ok.
CivilRationality
In at least one comic, the challenge can occur at any time.
baconsmellsreallygood
challenge day wasnt to see who is the strongest (why T'Challa was told he didnt have to fight Killmonger). It is there to ensure a (3)
baconsmellsreallygood
Will note that T'Challa did not have to fight KM bc (a) He missed challenge day and (b) He was not technically Wakandan
baconsmellsreallygood
all tribes agree upon a leader that will do whats best for them & Wakanda. Also a representitive of every tribe is elected as the King's (4)
baconsmellsreallygood
The challenging loser can either yield or die (not a deathmatch). It is also more of a ceremonial event for T'Challa was expecting (1)
confanity
Next you'll be telling me that of the most technologically-advanced nations on earth, like Japan or something, still has a priest-king.
GreatWhiteNorthEh
Can they levy a tax? Draft a law? Declare someone a criminal? Declare pre-emptive unilateral war? Not at all the same.
confanity
So tell me, what exactly are the terms and limits of BP's powers? Do you even know?
GreatWhiteNorthEh
I don't, but Killmonger had the ability to declare war on the rest of the world without any one else's input so I'm guessing it's absolute.
confanity
He didn't "declare war," though. As executive he told the special ops forces to arm potential insurgent black communities around the world.
baconsmellsreallygood
council. So the King has to either keep his council happy or he will constantly have to challenge someone every year until he loses (5)
TheDozenPercent
Sounds so healthy and intelligent. And not at all lazy Marvel writing.
baconsmellsreallygood
that he didnt have to fight anyone until the Jabari (who have been in self imposed exile for a while) came out. Also the purpose of (2)
Maraak
A nation built on woke mary sue-ness. Watching it get fucked up a bit was rewarding.
Belisar565
Yeahh, I like wakanda, but if you think for a few seconds their society is pretty shit at warfare. Isolation bred false ideas of superiority
canonlyturnright
Like Japan
Belisar565
To be fair, I could see wakanda lose a battle against a modern nation. Then get it's shit together quickly and do decent
baconsmellsreallygood
Their military is adapted to fight a defensive war within their borders, which they will have tactical advantage against conventional (1)
baconsmellsreallygood
human militaries, not intergalactic superpowers. They even have spies that scout each gov't military capabilities & tactics (2)
mentalpiggie
Wakanda kept close tabs on the world, after being paranoid for centuries it seems odd to not have a backup plan.
ImageShare12345
Wakanda JUST finished a Civil War which 99% of their weapons and tech got destroyed. It's not going to magically get repaired over night.
DigitalMau
are you high?! Do you seriously think that was the entire wakandan armory?!
AlchemyAdept
Not necessarily false, just a superiority within their specialization, which isnt warfare
zma123456
This is why I didn't enjoyed black panther. It was just loosely put together. The cast was solid though.
CamelSpotter
This is from Infinity War...
AdvonKoulthar
More like Bore Ragnarok
harlePositivityMaker
Your mom's from Infinity War.
ellert0
And the discussion is about Black Panther. Not seeing the forest for the trees there.
THORaTHEexplora
That sentence was loosely put together
boredoftheworld
So was my dog's last bowel movement. No really, golden pup with diarrhea. It's pretty awful.
khazaria
Which one?
NerdN1
It looks like they have lots of tradition and tech, but haven't actually gone to war in centuries. They have tech, but no experience in war.
BigFatUglyBugFaceBabyEatingOBrian
Neither do I but I've seen a gun before, read some history and seen movies, and I feel like I have a better sense of "war" than wakandans
confanity
You might, at that. They seemed to mostly deal with the world through stealth ops, and specialized in personal combat for that purpose.
mentalpiggie
They kept close tabs on the world seems odd to not have a backup plan after being so paranoid for centuries.
confanity
A backup plan along the lines of a big fuckoff force-field and special ops teams active around the world, for example?
mentalpiggie
The forcefield is a temporary backup if you get siege and still have no military what's it gonna do if it already cracked under some boys
confanity
Backup? The field is clearly their *first* defense.
confanity
2. ⇒ than sustained pressure. Probably because the designers anticipated human weapons, not a tidal wave of suicidal beasts.
confanity
1. You forget that the field also blew up a spaceship that tried to land on it. Clearly it was just designed to block impacts/blasts rather→
DieFlammenwerfer
They never had to. They hid themselves from the world, avoiding conflict. All of this is new to them now.
ThrowAwayAcct0000
Do you know how much money they've saved by not having those things?!
khazaria
It's much better to build the weapons of war and immediately put them in a dump. For jobs. /s
Akillesursinne
But they were aware of the rest of the world going to war, no? :P Come on, it's just stupid.
VegansCauseAutism
They had fighter jets...they were just too arrogant to use them.
apollo1983
There's a scene where you can see their jet fighters attacking the big armored subterranean vehicles.
WhoYouGonnaCallGhostNappa
Scarlet witch does not identify as a military aircraft
kaiserdas19
Nice
WhoYouGonnaCallGhostNappa
*Bows*
DieFlammenwerfer
They used them for transportation primarily, and if encountered during a transport they would be used as defense, but only when needed.
VegansCauseAutism
I think an apocalyptic alien swarm invasion might qualify as "when needed".
DieFlammenwerfer
Didn’t invade Wakanda, so not their problem at the time.
VegansCauseAutism
They were killing themselfs in waves of thousands to get through Wakandas defense shield. I call that an attack and attampted invasion...
drpetervenkman
So you're saying they were so much smarter and technologically Superior. Yet couldn't predict weapons to fight against the outside world?
InspiredForestRaptor
Said outside world has nothing that could get them past the defenses... The ennemies wakanda faced would have decimated any other army...
Sugarblade
Idk. I feel like a few specter gunships or a few MOABs would have worked pretty well.
user843
Lol
DieFlammenwerfer
No, saying they were advanced and had no intention of the outside world finding them or needing to deal with them. It wasn’t necessary.
CountVorkosigan
"An Outside Context Problem was the sort of thing most civilisations encountered just once, and which they tended to encounter rather in 1/3
CountVorkosigan
the same way a sentence encountered a full stop." — Iain M. Banks. 2/3
CountVorkosigan
Wakanda rested on its laurels, all they had to do was be more advanced than everyone they met. So when they met someone more advance 3/4
BattloidKouji
That's how I usually play civ
CountVorkosigan
than they were, they were completely unprepared for something like that and died like redshirts. 4/4
TheFriendliestGiant
Exactly. The opening to BP suggested Wakanda has been a hidden civilization for millennia. When would they even have built fixed guns?
Kollejolle
They said guns were primitive then in IW trying to aim their Stargate off-brand staff weapons
TheFriendliestGiant
It's almost as if they have no actual understanding of war fighting, having never done so. Wakanda is advanced, not perfect.
xKaraKx
Because they were paranoid enough to build a fucking cloaking field. Why wouldnt they have had a backup? They knew that other nations had
commoncomment
Because the field/shield worked really well.
xKaraKx
Armored vehicles. They could have made something to contend with them instead of being arrogant in the extreme in thinking they were
xKaraKx
Untouchable. The mcu version of wakanda makes no sense as a nation... they really dropped the ball when compared to the comics
CountVorkosigan
It makes plenty of sense. They were ALWAYS superior and let it go to their head. This is 18th century China meets the British Empire.
penguinpab
Why would a civilization that hides from the world select its leader through a death match if they didn’t fight regularly?
idowhatiwantwastaken
Tradition?
TheFriendliestGiant
It's not a death match, it's death or submission, and it seems unlikely that an isolated ethnostate would change their ancient traditions.
kanemano
we just had a civil war last month and our armed forces are still depleted
ImageShare12345
Thank you! I knew I couldn't be the only one.
SomeCrazyNerd
Yeah that's what I thought. They had like war rhinos and spaceships before but they were still recovering supplies.
mentalpiggie
Nothing much happened to their shops though, and come on rhino's? You can do better than that...
SomeCrazyNerd
They had a civil war. That would have depleted resources. And some of them were definitely blown up/killed.
confanity
You *can*, but when had they ever needed to? Nobody we know of (in the MCU) had ever seriously attacked them in all of recorded history.
confanity
Are you seriously asking why a nation *that built its entire strategy around stealth and defense* didn't develop massive offensive mechs?
xXCarpeNoctumXx
yeah, i think it's dumb too
tootiredtosleeptootiredtonotsleep
So, why didn't the stealth and DEFENSE nation have any defense mechanism except the shield? Like turrets or machine guns?
confanity
You mean like personal forcefields, vibranium bodysuits, lasers, and hoverjets? It turns out MASS combat weapons aren't the only defense.
tootiredtosleeptootiredtonotsleep
Neither in BP nor in IW did personal force field help even a little bit. Vibranium body suit only for BP. Lasers and hoverjets, well (1/2)
tootiredtosleeptootiredtonotsleep
Where were they during the fight? Like 5 machine guns would've been mich better than those 50 people with spears.
confanity
I'm kind of impressed at your ability to pretend that five machine guns would stop a horde of charging beasts the size of cars.
confanity
All you're really telling me here is that you didn't pay attention to how the Lesotho-blanket shields were used in either movie. :[
tootiredtosleeptootiredtonotsleep
Can't you read? I didn't say they weren't in the movie. I said they were useless.. Tell me one scene in iw where the shield blocked somethin
VegansCauseAutism
Well, they select their leaders in a combat to death(pit fight)...how can you expect modern behavior of them?
Goose1124
It's governed the same way Uruk was in the epic of gilgamesh
ConstantlyonYoBack
Modern behavior like legalizing guns for all and being okay with Mass shootings... Glass houses Dude.
Sqwuid
I would think a nation built around combat would be the first to advance in weapons.
baconsmellsreallygood
The challenge day was ceremonial & mostly in place so all tribes are okay w/ their leader. (ie entitled prince must be popular w/ his ppl)
cloudandtrains
Don't forget them calling everyone else savages even though they have this "sophisticated leader election"
TylerTheAnarchist
Yea I found a good video that points out the economical and political flaws with Wakanda. https://youtu.be/wNf2UZPMiBs
agentarcher
Watch it, bub https://imgur.com/8XwkdU0
eion85
It was to the death, or until one yielded. Did you not watch Black Panther?
Drarra
Modern behavior.. is to arm oneself with warmachinery? Alright...
TheRavensNest
Yes that is part of modern civilization. You might notice it by the fact that is how the world actually is. Use your fucking head.
Drarra
That is not something a country should strive for though! Not to mention that the military-complex is the only one making profit from that..
TheRavensNest
Idealism has gotten the world no where. Be realistic, we like killing people as humans and that won't stop any time soon.
Drarra
Bullshit. Seriously, listen to less media >_> We live today in the most peaceful period since many centuries!
Drarra
We have drastically reduced the kills and conflicts in the world and idealism definitely was a major factor.
Drarra
You hear about killed individuums, a few dozen or maybe some hundred. Compare that with >20 thousands, roman legions killed on a single day!
Yesisaidthat
Well people produce things they need. Up until now, they didn't really need offensive weapons.
VegansCauseAutism
Two full blown alien ivasions in the last few years. I think it's safe to say they should have started preparing for the next one.
eion85
You're forgetting Wakanda was an isolated country until like the month before Infinity War. Their primary goal was staying hidden.
VegansCauseAutism
Did you notice that Killmonger was the son of a spy/agent they had in the US? Isolated yes, but they knew exactly what was going on.
eion85
I don't dispute that. I dispute that they expected to be facing a full scale invasion of the city by aliens. The only reason Thanos came >
kodiak931155
In peace a good ruler should prepare for war. These guys looked at the pew pew spears and barking warriors and decided. Naw, we good.
eion85
Are your forgetting the shield that shrugged off giant deorbiting dropships?
kodiak931155
The one that delayed the enemy for a couple mins and and didnt stop the tunneling at all? Naw i didnt forget that poorly implemented excuse
eion85
Yeah, it failed to an intergalactic army. I'm sure the Wakandan war planners totally had that in mind. I think it would stand up to >
Rexli78
And yet our modern system has resulted in a failed mail-order-stake salesman leading the nation.
TheRavensNest
You're an idiot if you think that's the only thing modern society has achieved.
Rexli78
You're an angry little man aren't you?
TheRavensNest
I'm not mad, I'm simply telling you how it is. Good try tho mate, come again another time.
youreathing
Right, b/c the system we use in the West is so much better. Our track record of quality leaders is like, totally the best. Just terrific.
IacobusMarcellus
“Omg a politician I dont like is in office I guess everything in Western Civ is garbage so lets look to african tribals for guidance”
Deadpoolisfunny
It's better than a monarch, dictator, or oligarchic ruler. No system is perfect, and sometimes we struggle a lot. However, we're trying.
SeriouslyAwkward
Iono bro I think their onto something cause selecting our leaders through trial by combat sounds pretty good right now...
LesbianAndroid
The qualities it takes to win a fight or an election are not the same as what it takes to run a country.
Domehammer
All hail president Florida Man who high on bath salts eat the face off the other runners.
lifeisshortsoshutthehellup
That's how you end up with president Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho.
TerryCrews
Word.
UnkelKevin
A vast improvement - At least he recognized that there was a problem and sought help from the smartest man in the world.
ThatTransformersDude
Takes a big man to look past his own ego and focus on solutions rather than glory and validation
legitchrispratt
Pssh. Trump woulda kicked the shit out of Hillary ;)
BlakeTortilla
trump would get a heart attack 20 minutes into the fight
Mentok
I can't see that fat bitch kicking anything. He would've promised to pay someone to do it, then he'd stiff them.
Rexli78
Yeah somehow I doubt cadet bone spurs would have won.
DevonGronka
I'm pretty sure Hillary would feign death and then stab Trump in the liver while he's gloating.
legitchrispratt
DevonGronka
"I told you I would win. So great. That hillary, what a loser. I mean, I once was on a TV show, did I ever tell you? I was on a show and 1/2
MoneybagsMcGee
Bernie would have ducked them both up
SwagicalYololord
I am Bernie, king of ducks.
NPCommentator
The only thing Trump has ever kicked was the Clap after taking an elephant sized dose of penicillin. Bone Spurs make kicking hard.
HormonalWoman
Well you have celebrities, devolve a bit further and do trial by combat, I mean it couldn't make shit worse lol
DevonGronka
To be honest I would probably trust some random MMA fighter over these celebrities and dynasties and trust fund babies, you know?
HormonalWoman
Have you seen their brain damage? Nah mate. I've discussed the points of democracy but in reality if you have a good monarchy like in Bhutan
HormonalWoman
where they raise the royalty with extensive training and on the job experience so to speak. WHen they rule a country, they have a life time
DevonGronka
And then you also have a whole history full of really, really crappy monarchies to provide a foil to your point...
SendMeNoots
Man I didn't get why T'Challa was so chill with his army and people being sacrificed to protect one guy.
Killertortilla
He's an arrogant cunt. He always has been.
juancarlosthethird
Because if thanos gets to that one guy half of his people die
SomeCrazyNerd
Thanos was a threat to everyone.
BanesOnAPlane
Maybe because half of his people would die along with 3.5 billion of the rest of the world if he didn't protect Vision?
mentalpiggie
Destroy the stone along with him maybe? Like they still ended up doing?
confanity
I can see him being confident enough in his forces and sister to extract it safely. They were going to get attacked either way.
Jomini001
Because he's a spoiled rich kid selected to lead by accident of birth? Basically Jim Jong Un really. The peasants exist to serve him.
CthuluAlmighty
To be fair t’challa doesn’t make his people use their own shit as fertilizer, and from what we’ve seen his people live good lives
Jomini001
Idk. I think wakanda is pretty dystopian for the average wakandan. All we see are the scientists, regime functionaries, and military.
Jomini001
I figure any time you have a place so beautiful on the surface there has to be a rotten core propping it up. Do all those people in colorful
Jomini001
Clothes pick up garbage, fix toilets, and build all those beautiful buildings? I think the wakandans we see are just the Elli, and we
felinegratificationprovider
There was a conference call that wasn't in the movie that explained everything. It'll be in the blu-ray release. Adds 20 minutes.
thisispattrick
For real?
MatadoR32
Because he understood the importance of the Infinity Stone? Like.... This needs explained?
SendMeNoots
They decided to save Vision instead of destroying the stone. Now if they had been successful before rhe army showed up, sure.
Logicalfails
Mavgurian
You name fits. The goal was to destroy the stone without killing one guy - which is ridiculous, because they sacrificed hundreds for it.
Logicalfails
Dang. You right. I'm an idiot
andthedicestoppedrolling
Not that, Scarlet Witch could have destroyed the stone and Vision simultaneously. they decided to fight instead to save one guy
MegaDeuce
Not even a human, a robot guy!
MegaDeuce
To any hyper-advanced AI reading this in the future... THIS WAS A JOKE, I SUPPORT ROBOT RIGHTS
mheurtevent1
You'll be the first drafted for the Robots versus Wrestlers matches
MrImgurian
A seemingly useless guy without the stone may I add I would understand if he had some real value without the stone but he really didn't
SomeCrazyNerd
He could fly and had what looks to be somewhat superhuman fighting. It's not suggested he needed the stone for that.
POTUSBrown
"We don't trade lives." Then they proceed to trade a bunch of lives.
Mavgurian
*"We don't trade lives of named characters."
itsrainingcats
even if they did do that Thanos could still have used the time stone to go back and stop them from destroying it
Grudgezilla
Which he did. Lol. Why is this even up for debate?
Pusilanimous
Which is why I am just dying to know wtf Dr Strange was doing handing it over when he did -when they were all extremely vulnerable.
mentalpiggie
They didn't know Thanos had the time stone multiple things in this movie were badly written and rode on its reputation to get away with it.
droppointalpha
True, but then again, WWII Germany elected to not build long range bombers either so stupidity isn't exactly immersion breaking either.
derppatrol
But how would long range bombers have helped Germany in the least? There's a reason they never made them.
droppointalpha
They never made them b/c Herman Goering was a fighter pilot and the view of bombers were in context of combined arms warfare.
droppointalpha
Long range bombers serve strategic needs & may (w/ LR escorts) removing GB from the war rather than them serving as a invasion springboard.
felinegratificationprovider
Plus Germany is real, whereas Wakanda is a fantasy.
Goose1124
They didn't need them until they started trying to bomb the soviets and trying to hit targets further inside britain
droppointalpha
You don't build weapons when you need them. You build them in anticipation of needing them. The Ural bomber was designed as a proto-long
droppointalpha
2 range bomber (IIRC) but was compromised by demands for it to fill a dive bombing role as well.
EditImgur
Long range bombers have limited usage with huge resource costs. Put that towards something that could actually help them.
droppointalpha
Removing GB from the war would have removed an invasion springboard for the US. Long Range bombers and escorts would have served Germany far
droppointalpha
2 better than the V-1/2 program. LR bombers would have also struck Russian factories, firebombed fields of grain, and starved the Russian
droppointalpha
3 nation. Both might have been removed before the US could exploit either as a invasion launch point.
EditImgur
Sure, but long range bombers wouldn't of done it on there own. The resources for that would of been better used for Sealion.
droppointalpha
Have you seen the results of German bombing of Liverpool? ~80% reduction in cargo moved. If they could have hit just the major ports, GB
droppointalpha
3 logistics and transportation infrastructure behind GB lines to cripple response and supplies until they were sufficiently secure to base
droppointalpha
2 very well might have starved. An invasion would still have needed adequate air support, both in long range fighters and bombers to hit
droppointalpha
4 aircraft on the island.