Can they really take California? Like we vote to not be part of this he'll hole and then.. oh no.. Canada took us over! Aw shucks! I'd be down for that.
Nah, at that point we should make Cascadia a thing and have the west coast do our own thing.
Include california, probably split Cali into multiple states. We can probably also swing Nevada, get us Vegas, but broadly draw the line at the mountains.
Do that and we've got a national that's culturally similar, easily defended, and basically completely self sufficient.
Just get used to wearing more layers. Soft wool socks, down filled pants, northface adjacent jacket.... Your cold hormones should acclimate within a year, and the summers are actually fuckin awesome. It's the right amount of hot. Not too much.
excuse me, but is it a place where people live, or just a place you travel to? I mean , is there a small city nearby or is it all a wildlife refuge/beach
Grew up in West Michigan in the 60s and frankly hoped that Canada would annex Detroit as it got worse and worse. Now I’d move back there in a minute if I thought they’d annex the whole state.
Watched a Canadian snowbird on news tonight, telling how Floridians are under the impression Canadians have no other warm place to go in winter (because US is only place in the world with warm beaches, apparently). Spare us puhleaz.
Our bullshit is their bullshit delayed by decade. At least we have functioning infrastructure but grifting conservatives are trying their damnedest to privatize the post office and health sector
Same with Mexico.... SO many of the people are so nice, and the weather can often be amazing.... really sucks that the country in the middle with more comfortable temperatures is the fucked up one.
It's only because, there doesn't seem to be any ACTUAL consequences whenever someone in power is FOUND guilty of any crimes, otherwise, it really WOULD be a utopia.
it's a shithole, even when there were consequences to people in power. The whole terminal capitalism thing was made in total legality, because turns out lobbying is legal. The only people who think the us are great are people who never left the us and swallowed the constant propaganda of how great you are.
Looked at it for years. I do not have the money for it nor the skill. When I graduated college it was the place to go for work but the industry was flooded. Now I have my mom to care for.
If I thought they would let me in I'd be there already. They have their own issues, but they haven't gone full fascist. Sadly, I have nothing to offer them and I don't think they even want to let Americans in right now.
I am supposed to graduate as a Speech-Language Pathologist in May... and Arizona republicans are trying to slash funding for individuals with special needs in April.
Ugh. I'm so sorry we live in this timeline. That said, I'm pretty sure that *is* something other countries may want you for. I'd definitely look into it!
Last I heard, immigration had been all but stopped due to lacking the infrastructure to support so many people seeking that delicious maple salvation. Have things changed?
We're not perfect, and Alberta is.... Alberta, but it's definitely worth considering. You don't even need to learn French if you don't care about being a senior manager in government.
Do you know that because you've tried emigrating and been turned down or do you know that because the non-stop barrage of corporate propaganda you get exposed to every day in the US tells you that you can't leave because no one will take you? You know, like an abusive partner would say.
Nah, it's almost impossible to survive in Canada illegally/undocumented...no access to health care, schools, banking, driving license, home ownership etc.... yes, documents can be forged, but illegal immigration is not a big problem here
The majority of illegal immigration is tied to human trafficking and they end up in prostitution or modern day slaves. Refugees that come here get support until their cases are reviewed. About 1/3 of refugees are rejected and deported.
I like this plan. Taking those 4 states of of the US and the US is no longer a G8 country. Hell take California alone* and watch the US economy crater. *but plz take Washington too ;)
Of course! It could be the province name of you and any neighbor states, as Cascadia is WA/OR/CA. 😁 Washington can be renamed though, we got enough shit named after dead white guys, and it would end the confusion of everyone thinking anyone from Washington is from DC 🙃
jspatte83360
AgentKGB
Just be careful of provincial dialects. For example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ScgAgeIfTlg is more or less incomprehensible to non-flatlanders.
sgtmajorcool
MightyZephyr
Nope. I'll stay here and fight. Can't let these mother fuckers win
StinkySauce
Sold
rangerdood
I'm afraid it's not far enough away
HelloImMarshall
Can they really take California? Like we vote to not be part of this he'll hole and then.. oh no.. Canada took us over! Aw shucks! I'd be down for that.
androgenoide
If a couple mounties show up I imagine my city would surrender without discussion.
HeShallKnowYourWaysAsIfBornToThem
We'll take WA, OR, CA, NM, CO, MN, IL, NY, NJ, VT, MA, VA...the rest you can keep.
HeShallKnowYourWaysAsIfBornToThem
...and CT, RI & NH
idrinkcheapbeer
Currently, an american is not eligible for refuge anywhere on the planet.
xizar
https://translash.org/articles/trans-relocation-guide-finding-trans-asylum-and-safe-havens/ There might be ways if things get *real* bad.
DutchGoodGuy
Straight out of Tha Handmaid’s Tail… Scary
DutchGoodGuy
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Etherealvalentine
I'd rather simply stop funding red welfare States, and make the federal government beg blue states, on their hands and knees, not to leave.
davebarton315101
I offered you New York State but you never got back to me!
lonelyrangerofthedreams
Really convincing
sfbiker
I'd love Canada to absorb my state, and really, the entire west coast. I know some east coast states would like in on the deal too.
montyman185
Nah, at that point we should make Cascadia a thing and have the west coast do our own thing.
Include california, probably split Cali into multiple states. We can probably also swing Nevada, get us Vegas, but broadly draw the line at the mountains.
Do that and we've got a national that's culturally similar, easily defended, and basically completely self sufficient.
Okiegoon
fukkin cold up there tho ya? Where can I ex-pat to that's by a nice beach?
PineappleLoopsBroether
Just get used to wearing more layers. Soft wool socks, down filled pants, northface adjacent jacket.... Your cold hormones should acclimate within a year, and the summers are actually fuckin awesome. It's the right amount of hot. Not too much.
NotSleepingNow
Port Hood, Cape Breton, Nova Scotia. Warmest waters north of the Carolinas, summer average is 23°C/73.4°F.
MatureDendriticCell
excuse me, but is it a place where people live, or just a place you travel to? I mean , is there a small city nearby or is it all a wildlife refuge/beach
FortifiedWhine
After seeing this and dozens of other related posts on this site of late, I'm confused. Has the word "emigrate" ceased to exist?
truehaggerty
As a Canadian I am actually researching New Zealand immigration so that we can get out before we get stuck raising children through a war.
CelestialSea
And if you emigrate to the west coast it's not even that cold!
loxiabun
If only it were so easy. 🏳️⚧️💜😔
drduffer
Grew up in West Michigan in the 60s and frankly hoped that Canada would annex Detroit as it got worse and worse.
Now I’d move back there in a minute if I thought they’d annex the whole state.
PineappleLoopsBroether
Ya could go to Windsor. It's so vastly better and yet exactly the same.
DukeDarkwood
Friendly reminder that Windsor, Ontario is south of Detroit, Michigan.
PineappleLoopsBroether
MagmaCarta
Need to update my memes to "Really? Right in front of my CCOHS Handbook?"
TheOtherLucas
"offer not applicable to some of the weirder states" [eyeing florida and mississippi suspiciously]
Patters2
and ohio, and texas, and california, and arizona, and georgia, and montana, and .... oh heck, its all the contiguous 48+DC
TheOtherLucas
Alaska can stay out too.....just saying, eh.
NotSleepingNow
Watched a Canadian snowbird on news tonight, telling how Floridians are under the impression Canadians have no other warm place to go in winter (because US is only place in the world with warm beaches, apparently). Spare us puhleaz.
TemporarilyEmbarrassedThousandaire
Canada has some of its own issues but not like....this
JayEnfield
Canadian here. I'll take our bullshit over their bullshit any day of the week.
alaest0r
Our bullshit is their bullshit delayed by decade. At least we have functioning infrastructure but grifting conservatives are trying their damnedest to privatize the post office and health sector
JayEnfield
I'll even take our current bullshit over their Bush-era bullshit any day of the week.
jesuisgur
No country is perfect, eh...
modis
We will see in a few months if we decide to follow on the Trump train, or hold it at bay
PineappleLoopsBroether
Same with Mexico.... SO many of the people are so nice, and the weather can often be amazing.... really sucks that the country in the middle with more comfortable temperatures is the fucked up one.
OozingRabbit
It's only because, there doesn't seem to be any ACTUAL consequences whenever someone in power is FOUND guilty of any crimes, otherwise, it really WOULD be a utopia.
PineappleLoopsBroether
You’re talking about America, right?
OozingRabbit
Yes, yes I am.
Shoutrr
it's a shithole, even when there were consequences to people in power. The whole terminal capitalism thing was made in total legality, because turns out lobbying is legal. The only people who think the us are great are people who never left the us and swallowed the constant propaganda of how great you are.
Niagaran
We have our own TemuTrump, a snivelling populist shit, who looks likely to win the upcoming election. 🫤
lordoverkill
Tell me you live in Australia without telling me you live in Australia. “TemuTrump”
ShadeWilson2
He's talking about Pierre Poilievre, or tiny PP as I like to call him. But there's TemuTrumps popping up everywhere.
Niagaran
"We" 🍁
Temu is a website of shitty products, like Wish but worse
lordoverkill
Apologies, looks like Australia has its own, different, TemuTrump that’s been getting around the internet.
Best of luck. Hope Ford gets stomped on.
Niagaran
I meant the Federal election that'll happen after the Provincial. (Though I am key staff in our electoral district, running the election).
Ford, for the first time I can give him credit for something, is at least pissed off at Trump. Alberta's premiere went to Maralago to kiss the ring.
Novirtue
LEgitimately thinking about it
chrispisme
Do it!
WaxDragon
I'm lucky, the gf is a dual citizen. Makes it possible without too much hassle if I need to bail!
PlanckEraWasMyBestEra
Does your girlfriend have a gay/bi/open-minded brother? I'm scared. D:
TheOneWhoSucks
Plan on getting my finances in order and going back to school. Once I have my degree, I've got a short list, and Canada is on it.
StarmineRendezvous
Canada would be wise to take us. The ones fleeing the US would be more liberal and could try and tip things away from the right in Canada.
Smoretank
Looked at it for years. I do not have the money for it nor the skill. When I graduated college it was the place to go for work but the industry was flooded. Now I have my mom to care for.
HeraldofOmega
Do it do it do it!
PlanckEraWasMyBestEra
If I thought they would let me in I'd be there already. They have their own issues, but they haven't gone full fascist. Sadly, I have nothing to offer them and I don't think they even want to let Americans in right now.
MenloPart
I am supposed to graduate as a Speech-Language Pathologist in May... and Arizona republicans are trying to slash funding for individuals with special needs in April.
PlanckEraWasMyBestEra
Ugh. I'm so sorry we live in this timeline. That said, I'm pretty sure that *is* something other countries may want you for. I'd definitely look into it!
MenloPart
I am still trying to move mom out of her house across the state since June of 2023. Moving to another country?! That's going to be hard! :D
101Medic
Last I heard, immigration had been all but stopped due to lacking the infrastructure to support so many people seeking that delicious maple salvation. Have things changed?
IhopeyougetstageIIIcoloncancer
We're not perfect, and Alberta is.... Alberta, but it's definitely worth considering. You don't even need to learn French if you don't care about being a senior manager in government.
NoxAetyrnal
I’d go right this second if they would accept me but I’m not skilled
BrianFarr
Same here! I'm just a salesman -- I imagine that they already have plenty of those.
Thajurriesexcuesed
Don't count yourself out. Make them tell you that.
arumunus
I can make pretty art stuff but I've failed to sell it well.
Now I'm just a retail worker. Countries don't really want those coming in.
Blud4BludGod
Do you know that because you've tried emigrating and been turned down or do you know that because the non-stop barrage of corporate propaganda you get exposed to every day in the US tells you that you can't leave because no one will take you? You know, like an abusive partner would say.
arumunus
Ow. ; u;'
GreatWiseBob
Guys, guys... you're missing the point. We have TERRIBLE border security.
stephseviltwinII
Are you suggesting they come ILLEGALLY??
Kimbongpal
Nah, it's almost impossible to survive in Canada illegally/undocumented...no access to health care, schools, banking, driving license, home ownership etc.... yes, documents can be forged, but illegal immigration is not a big problem here
Shift137
Bro we live in America were used to going with out basic shit.
Kimbongpal
The majority of illegal immigration is tied to human trafficking and they end up in prostitution or modern day slaves. Refugees that come here get support until their cases are reviewed. About 1/3 of refugees are rejected and deported.
GravyEducation
I keep telling you to annex Minnesota, we are already honorary citizens
circlebreaker
They are pretty nice, eh?
GravyEducation
Plus we already know how to handle winter roads you have everything to gain and nothing to lose!
PuraVidaMN
Minnesota begs you to take us
sayessathe1st
You guys can be "southeast Canada" and Washington/Oregon/California can be Canadia or "southwest Canada".
Flightmaster101
I like this plan. Taking those 4 states of of the US and the US is no longer a G8 country. Hell take California alone* and watch the US economy crater. *but plz take Washington too ;)
GravyEducation
Agreed as long as it's just a regional name. We keep Minnesota. Never lose native names.
sayessathe1st
Of course! It could be the province name of you and any neighbor states, as Cascadia is WA/OR/CA. 😁 Washington can be renamed though, we got enough shit named after dead white guys, and it would end the confusion of everyone thinking anyone from Washington is from DC 🙃