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sumowoman
Hello from Northern Europe again (hon hon hon). We're allowed all books + Internet in tests. It's not the knowledge but how it's used>
sumowoman
>in practice that matters. There is no 1 right answer. If your answer is correct and well grounded, it's correct, no matter if it's>
sumowoman
>different from other answers.
Geo80
Without units it's just a ratio and could be literally any size so long as the proportions are correct.
AidenT92
That's the idea
cameraman502
A prof handed out a paper and said they can bring anything they could fit on it. One student brought the TA and had him stand on the paper.
TealButterfly
I always typed them up, shrunk the font, and glued them to a notecard.
just4thelolz
The great thing is that with college professors being a smartass actually works. They reward it. Other teachers often don't for some reason.
crann
As a prof I am EXTREMELY specific. A 8.5 INCH by 11 INCH sheet of paper, hand written, YOUR hand writing, nothing printed, nothing attached.
wheresthebaby
Even with the ambiguity this wouldn’t be allowed
bmjflow
I used blue and red ink offset with 3D glasses to get around the 3x5 limitation.
iktome99
TheAccountOfShame
Yep. This was my idea too. You get two note cards for the price of one.
bmjflow
I also used so small a font, that I only needed about half the second color. Prof thought it was inventive.
ultraronbun
“Student learns nothing, future uncertain”
callinallretards
Todays headline "College students are clever". Professors shocked. quotes "we had no idea they could think" "when did they just stop
TrueDankMemeLord
Don't let your memes be dreams
Iliketocommentinrandom
Oh my lord. This is stupidly funny. Thanks in advance, backwards.
Merovean
Actually it is known that roughly 70% or so simply cannot think, have no place here, and will go on to do nothing, but bitch about the cost.
Altanese
Gonna need sauce on this one.
RussianMathNinja
It is known!
Stewiejustsaidthat401
Yea, sauce is a necessity for such a bold claim.
HockeyAndMapleAndPoutineAndSorryForTheLongName
Collaborate and listen"
greenbeanraneen
Ice is back with a Brad new addition...
trigonman3
frankmanhattan
You got a problem? Yo, I'll solve it!
digitalist1
How many people's professor would've just been like "doesn't matter 3*5 feet is clearly ridiculous u should've known better."
bpetersen
To be fair, in the real world you can't do shit like this. E.g. Reqt said the car needed seatbelt...you never specified it had to work.
digitalist1
I love how professors think they know how the real world works, even though they basically never left high school
digitalist1
(Just stayed in school their whole lives)
bpetersen
I'm convinced that profs think "if a student can do well while I do a shitty job, then they can handle the real world"
Stewiejustsaidthat401
Right here. Anytime prof messed up, it was a students consequence, and the department heads backed them up
digitalist1
"Just go to the deen" I wonder if the deens going to side with me a kid that just got into this school or prof that's been there for 20
Stewiejustsaidthat401
Preach
callinallretards
regurgitating facts" "is this proof of evolution"
lenorath
Your username is oddly appropriate here
callinallretards
what can I say. they flock to me.
MrHobbes14
We like our own kind sweety. Yes, I sunk the ship just to kill the captain.
callinallretards
well, shit. Find a kindred spirit and she's literally on the other side of the world.
StupidAnimal
Fun but I think it's more that professors don't think in distributed terms. The idea of needing methods rather than facts is alien to many.
buttcreambandit
Classic don’t hate the player hate the game scenario
Astrobog
I say fuck all tests, cause in the real world you have all the resources you need. Learn the theory and how to apply all the equation. 1/2
TotallyNotYourTeacher
Depends on the subject. And thanks to widespread cheating, exams are considered the best uni assessment, regardless of lesser validity.
Astrobog
If you know how to apply the equations, then you should have no issue. It's not all plug and chug geez
HexiHamaski
programming exams are open textbook, after all your work has to compile to pass
hardbreaker
Very old post. This is a repost ...
motorwaffle
I'm in favor of letting people use whatever they need. Real life doesn't arbitrarily limit your resources.
absoliutenus
she looks like a hungover mess that didn't get to study enough .I'd say poor soul . but she got lucky on this one
Thundamuffin
Pretty sure it's a dude, and that's a lot of judgment passed on a person with a hair style you don't like.
PaladinMan187
I used to go to that school. Awesome.
D0ntMindMeImJustLurking
Fun fact. If you actually bother to learn the math/physics whatever. You dont need notes.
thebackyardbard
I actually went there. A lot of students thought it was funny, but a good number of us were pissed. It makes us look bad.
DavidDireZebra
Ya'll are dicks.
NewPhoneWhoThis
Honestly if you need a 3ft by 5ft notecard for anything, you're not going to do well.
HexiHamaski
programming exams
HexiHamaski
though i should mention they are open textbook
toxcrusadr
Yep...you can be extremely well prepared fact-wise but not have the creativity or cleverness to be the best.
NotMyUsualOnlineName
Depends on the subject. Something like engineering that has a lot of different formulas, it could be useful. Not every engineer has every
NotMyUsualOnlineName
formula they might possibly need memorized.
NewPhoneWhoThis
I'm not debating that notecards are useless. As a current chemical engineer they do help, however if you need a 3ft by 5 ft it's not helpful
Purtypreencess7
can confirm AACC is dope. for the record if anybody enrolls, Prof. Dunnigan is a god among professors.
TumblebellyTheRatWizard
love that dude
Kaseyjones
Go pioneers
r2d2
College teaches you more about how to game the system than actually learn the content.
r2d2
Caveat: some schools
metaphordog
I wouldn’t have allowed it. You’re training kids that dimwitted word games will work. I’d have said, “Cut out 3x5 inches.”
Schrodingersfaggot
ForeignMusic
Lets talk about that username.
Schrodingersfaggot
Sure
ForeignMusic
It's nice
ImKimJongUnAndEverythingIsFine
Bananearth?
AllBoobIsBestBob
Take that flat earthers
RamonaQ
They'll take that over a globe.
MrStealYourGiF
I kept getting trolled with, "You'll be allowed a formula sheet" until day before or morning of "Oh BTW, no formula sheets." COCKSUCKER !!
NacLac
That's a great way to get transferred to the branch campus if you have tenure and working as a pissed of high school teacher if you don't.
toxcrusadr
Oooh. That's flat out mean.
darkdragonempress
That is just cruel and unnecessary.
grubin30
As a professor, duck that. And duck autocorrect.
Dahliaisahedgehog
Sometimes the process of making the cheat sheets can help a person memorize and study it.
MoaConstrictor
This. I don't know that I ever actually referred to the (many) cheat sheets I made, just writing everything out in my words was great study.
DrMichaelMcQueeferton
The syllabus is a legally binding document. Check the syllabus for the truth. If they don’t follow up, get administration on those queefs
RayMC
How is that trolling? That's flat out lying, and people will undoubtedly study accordingly. I'd go to the dean on that on.
Thornaxe
Definitely. Although you'd have little ground to stand on unless it was specified in writing.
Exquisitine
Something something classroom of 20 to 60 witnesses something something security cameras
Honeybadger2198
Who's gonna go around and collect all of them aggreeing? Who's to say that they all evsn remember? Therein lies the issue.
Xyzair
I have doubts that it was an online class
Crossark
My physics teacher back in high school was the exact opposite -- he had a doctorate in geology, and he knew he wasn't great at (1/2)
Crossark
conceptual teaching, so he gave us a VERY thorough formula sheet to be used for everything. I missed a week and aced two tests with it(2).
captainclutch
That’s a good teacher. Memorization of formulas isn’t important, knowing how and when to use them is.
Dionysus187
I swear sometimes I felt like subjects were being taught in the event of the apocalypse or going back in time centuries.
Crossark
I remember keeping it through the rest of HS and pulling it out whenever the AP/IB kids with lousy teachers were having trouble.
TheMightySausagesWife
I allowed a page of notes and was specific on the size of the page. One brought a magnifying glass and smallest writing ever. I allowed it.
Muhfynmann2
Micro fiche
CrazyCatLadyWithNoCat
i did once overwrite a single note page with contrasting colors to write double as much. Took so much effort I eventually learnt everything.
Drennen
I printed a full page in red, then offset by a few pixels and reprinted in blue so they overlap. Brought in old 3D glasses. Teacher allowed.
fingermypooper
My trig teacher always said we could use all 6 sides of the notecard, if we could manage to do so.
stevetehpirate
HoCroBro
I did this. 6pt font, narrow margins and single spaced.
Lakalaba
Professor said this for micro-economics. Didn't specify hand written or typed. Smallest font, narrow margins, double column, front and back
Lakalaba
Still scored a 62%. Called the professor out on it, he didn't check the test and realized 1/2 of it wasn't covered at all. Bumped to a 94%
TheMightySausagesWife
I encourage hand written because you learn more by copying every word down, but everyone is different.
Lakalaba
I completely agree, but I have messy handwriting when I write fast, and it was a cheat sheet :)
Rdc24703
Jokes on her, it's accounting and she's still gonna fail if she didn't study and learn the material.
AManWoman
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MordorGate
Accounting majors unite... quietly and efficiently at your desk after you zero everything out and make sure everything balances!
MattChu777
That's a dude, my dude.
Arkayb33
When knowing the information is more important than passing a test
km9v
As a man w/ a BBA in Accounting, I agree.
nattyfiishi
I have an accounting exam on Friday and this just proves to me that I'm not gonna have fun with it.
OutOfStock
Oh man don't say that I'm starting accounting in two weeks D:
IdkWhatIsThis
If you just pay attention it makes sense honestly. Like I haven't had any trouble in my accounting course
wheresthebaby
Good luck gramps
GloriousWalrus
Could be fucked or could be easy. Friend got a B at his school, average grade at my school is a C (after heavy curve)
OutOfStock
Cheers man
megadeth9001
Wait....a C for the entry level stuff??
GloriousWalrus
Our entry level included stuff that would be intermediate and beyond at other schools. I ended class with about a 60% and got bumped to C+
GloriousWalrus
It’s one of the barriers to entry for our B school. Just hard to weed out the weak haha
corbinamsel
Take advantage of any tutoring your school has, work out the problems several times, and don't be afraid to google. Lots of online resources
OutOfStock
Thanks! I appreciate all the advice and help I can get :)
WasteNull
I hated financial and managerial accounting... Absolutely waste of time
pc404
Same with some IT courses I took for computer science. I actually had to sit through a windows office course for 4 months.
MordorGate
Accounting major here, it’s a beautiful language that hinges entirely on what you learn in the opening few classes, gotta stick with it at
MordorGate
The beginning the most and then after a while you will think that way and it is so useful in everyday situations like taxes, spending, ...
Rdc24703
I loved it. Then again, I got my BS in Finance. So kind of makes sense.
OfDeathAndTaxes
Accounting is like a foreign language. It allows you to communicate financial information clearly so that other accounting speakers (1/2)
OfDeathAndTaxes
... can understand you. The rest is just sexy spreadsheets. (2/2)
painstream
Sexy spreadsheets. ThatsMyFetish.gif
N1LS
Wait you are allowed to use notecards during tests in the states?
luke1456
My org Chem prof let us use an A4 page with printed notes, showed up with nothing got highest grade in class :/
Treblaine
Well, you'd consult written sources when practising your subject in real industry once you have your degree.
RCSpotz
Sometimes, yes. Depends on the teacher.
WildRosso
I'm more surprised she's allowed to use a graphing calculator
Thundamuffin
I can use my Ti-nspire for all my courses.
AmandaVanity
My stats class was given a formula sheet as well! Just had to figure out what went where and use it properly. I'm from Toronto!
RayMC
"In the states?" Really? Why ask questions based on such generalizations? Its a giant nation w/ hundreds of schools w/ hundreds of teachers.
thedonniescatch
Are you german?
Pesilat25
community college has lower difficulty standards
Lauraborealis11
Canadian here. I was allowed to bring a page of notes to my statistics exam in university
Bystandr
2nd yr calculus class in university allowed a single flashcard- it wasnt enough for a third of the class, either on most of the tests.
Nedow
Also, sometimes open book. The test questions assume you have reference material so they’re generally harder. 1/2
Nedow
if you didn’t pay attention, or learn what’s important, notes and books won’t help a damn bit.
blarglebrle
So true it is more than just repeat what the book says you need to understand what the question is asking and how to approach the problem.
kayakninjas
A lot of my C# classes let us use documentation. Keeps you from doing anything braindead but you still need to be able to write the code.
1015512
Everyone here is retarded,
FIDLAR
Mainly you
1015512
Yea, U right.
Sc00ba5teeve
3rd year of a math degree and I have never been allowed notes in any exam for any class ever.
PiGuy314
How else are you supposed to get >=90% for an A? But to answer your question, I only had a couple professors that allowed notecards (SE US)
RamonaQ
I wouldn't know, but... probably, with the state of things. In the States.
buttcreambandit
Most allow notecards for formulas or otherwise “ridiculous to memorize” things. Since they know they wouldn’t themselves.
SchrodingerMil
It’s the culmination of teachers not having the “You won’t always have a calculator on you” mindset
toxcrusadr
Culmination of not having the you won't. I confess I am not smart enough to decipher this. Can I use my notecards?
merlinious
Teachers used to say "you wont always have a calculator on you" to justify memorization. But now we carry computers in our pockets
toxcrusadr
Ah thank you.
pezon
I allow my students to have access to all their notes and text book. I would also let them have access to Wikipedia only if...
pezon
... that were feasible
TalentedMrRipley
Create a WiFi network using a laptop, host a local copy of Wikipedia. Doesn't prevent them for connecting to other networks though.
FlipTheCouch
My machine design exams were open everything: book, notes, internet. If you didn't know the material, you were fucked either way.
Thundamuffin
Yeah we had that for machine design, heat transfer, and manufacturing methods.
IForgotHowToCollege
I got my degree in molecular biology and it never happened in my classes. As others have said, depends on professor.
DrinkingBaby
Safe to assume if it’s open book, the book’s not gonna help
Mefi91
In germany also. I have an software development test in a few hours and I can take the script and handwritten notes to the test
terithian
Yeah, my computer science tests always let us bring a sheet of notes too, since in the real world we always have the internet anyway.
EZ0422
Good luck on the test!!!
NSAgent
Because in the real world there are no notes or google searches... Wait I meant to say in the real world there are no timed tests.
RisingPhoenix92
There are no study weeks, A is a 90 and above, and like others said depends on class and professor
gadammit
At UC Berkeley, you get a study week. I didn't go there for college but my bro did. Lucky lil shit with his study weeks.
PenisShapedPoops
If a study week is what it sounds like, I'm now mad to know they exist somewhere and I never had one when I was in classes.
confirmedbunburyist
Agreed - what is this study week you speak of?
mithiwithi
It depends on the professor and the subject. Analytical subjects (engineering and math) are more likely to allow notes or even open-book 1/2
kernalkorn
My mechanical instructor (I'm EE) did not. He said the only formula we needed was F=ma....
sweetnaivety
full=metal alchemist?
kernalkorn
Only if you use American units.
americanjetset
I studied math in college. 0 open-note or open-book tests. The profs are nicer to you liberal-arts folk....
sd2016
I humbly disagree. Different disciplines require different approaches, especially with assessments. You may not have had open note exams (1)
sd2016
But as an art student your success is vulnerable to subjective criticism, sometimes by cruel or manipulative people. Sometimes by (2)
sd2016
Totally fair people who genuinely want to help you learn and grow. There is often no answer key, no completely concrete schema to judge by,
MoaConstrictor
Open-book tests are super mean though, way harder than closed book as a result. I had a mix of both, most open book / cheat sheets were math
americanjetset
Computational math (calc 1-3, stats/prob, linear) or pure math? I could see using a formula sheet in stats, but it doesnt even seem like it>
americanjetset
Would help in a proof-based class.
MoaConstrictor
Mostly statistics (scientist, not mathematician) - ran out of characters. Also physics, if I recall.
mithiwithi
because the exam is testing your ability to apply the techniques, not to recall specific details and facts. 2/2
LeftFootRightFoot
That prof hashtagged "accounting." I'm in my senior year of accounting and not one acct course allowed a note card. Lucky mfer
ServantOfTheGodEmperorOfUsersub
Sometimes allowing open notes helps fit the exam into the period.
RaynWisp
Business law was similar - we could use notes for case precedents in Business Law 1, but for upper division, no dice... had to memorize.
ThePiedPiperofRuination
Also, those departments generally understand that in a job setting you can just look up the formula you need.
ServantOfTheGodEmperorOfUsersub
Sometimes the test is testing your ability to gather the appropriate statistics, values, and equations from your book.
YourWaifuIsTrash
We were allowed notes for physics, some math classes, and a few of my comp sci courses. One of my CS classes had open-book tests.
Antrazit
We were allowed a collection of formulas in our statistics exam, and the required law texts in law exams
Antrazit
It's just super unnecessary to try and learn it all by heart, if you didn't understand it having the formulas won't let you pass
RayMC
Contradictory statements. You don't need to learn it by heart, but you do need to know exactly how to use when you see it.
WolfPrincess69
Failed a physics exam in HS thinking “she gives us the formulas, so I don’t need to study!!” I was wrong and I definitely learned my lesson
Satherian
You'd be surprised how few professors allow notes of any kind (at least at my school)
mithiwithi
It was pretty uncommon even in my CS and physics classes. But the classes that did allow notes or open-book were those classes.
Satherian
Fair enough. I've got a teacher who does open book & open note and it's my favorite class (It's also in my degree area)