This is one of the many reasons rolls aren't normally oriented this way. There is honestly no safe way, but it confuses me why they aren't covered better to prevent air resistance related problems.
Yeah, can't tell because of the silly music. But this is the sort of thing the horn was made for. My very first day of driving I saw an unsecured load dropping the driver wasn't aware of and pulled up alongside the cab honking, my dad rolled down his window in the passenger seat and started yelling and gesturing. Was a helluva first lesson.
(Breathe in, now breathe out) Hands up, now hands down (Back up, back up) Tell me what you're gonna do now Keep unrollin', rollin', rollin', rollin' (What?) Keep unrollin', rollin', rollin', rollin' (Come on) Keep unrollin', rollin', rollin', rollin' (Yeah) Keep unrollin', rollin', rollin', rollin'
The coil itself was never properly secured prior to loading on the truck. There should have been banding going through the center of the coil and around the outside to prevent this from happening. Some suit in management thought they could save a few coins by not using any banding through the center - "it'll be fine, nothing will happen. What can go wrong?"
Honestly, this isn’t the truck drivers fault. The manufacturer should have put banding straps from the middle to the outside which would have prevented this from happening, unless the straps broke, which is also why they usually put 3 on, because the chance of all three breaking is very rare.
This is on whoever bundled up that roll at the factory. It's supposed to have straps going right angles around both sides keeping the inside from unspooling like that
That's the fault of whoever didn't strap it properly at the foundry. There's supposed to be at least a couple of steel straps through the core to stop this happening.
That spool unwinding that way isn't on the driver. The company that manufactured and paid to ship it should have put banding straps on it if it was capable of doing this going down the road.
You are delusional if you think that is what they subject their people and not have a revolt. Chinese work days are 10-12 hours but I think 7 days a week. They do get a few holidays off. It is not good by any stretch but not as horribly dystopian as you think. Anymore at least, China is a developing society and they realized people cannot consume products if not given free time
How would this be the truckers fault... and not the fault of whomever packed and loaded it? This seems like a packaging issue... I know its up to the trucker to confirm the load is ready and safe for transport, but this seems similar to a couple bolts in some heavy machinery just snapping and causing part of the machinery to fall off... Is the trucker responsible for confirming every bolt is tightened to its torque limits?
I doubt it's the trucker's fault for a one in a million freak accident for a 3 mile roll of aluminum to become undone from the inside when those rolls come out of, are loaded, and secured by the factory.
There usually is a metal band that prevents exactly this. If this was missing when he took off, it is - at least partially - his/her fault (at least according to our laws). If it somehow snapped while he was driving, it's probably a fault of the factory, because the band wasn't properly installed. Or just ruled an annoying accident caused by bad material. Since nobody will come forward saying 'I screwed up', it's probably gonna be the latter.
Depends, some truckers are drive only and it's in the contract for that shipment that the people loading it are supposed to do all of that. But also depends on the laws of the state they are in. Or like you said the band could have snapped, which happens a lot more than you would think.
Drivers responsibility in the end to ensure the load is secure prior to transport. Though this was the fault of whoever secured it, the driver still wears it.
Normaly there should be two Metal bands on the Coil. To prevent exactly that. The Driver has not the Equipment to apply it and if he uses a ratchet strap, it will be cutt by the metal. So even if he used a ratchet strap, which he might have done, the result would be the same. The only possibility would have been to refuse to transport ist without the Metal Bands.
Weirdly back in the UK there was this really weird edge case where drivers could not be responsible. We used to drag a lot of "sealed" loads. Which had security seals applied at the loading point. Since we couldn't open and inspect if an incident occurred (and I know of at least once case where it did) the Driver wasn't responsible. That said outside of this rare case, the Driver was absolutely responsible for ensuring that the trailer and its load were secured.
Yes, if you are an 18 year old newly hired for cheap, and they tell you that everything is fine, and that time is money, you can totally tell them "no, this won't do" without getting fired...
I think the OPs video is shared responsibility between the manufacturer and the driver. If you look at my video, you’ll see there are four binding straps going from the inside of the spool to the outside. In OPs video, there aren’t any. Those straps, which are done by the manufacturer, are all missing and I believe it was partly the drivers responsibility for not make my sure they were there to properly secure his load.
Is this an industry that has enough CDL drivers that it can afford to fire every person who ever makes a single mistake? I'm not sure that's a good business plan, regardless, but even a bad plan can be executed if you have enough people looking for jobs, I suppose.
I transfered companies and got a shortened orientation because I had experience. I was then fired for making a LEGAL u-turn because they forgot to mention that their company has a no u-turn policy. All the major US companies use the same hiring site called drivers portal. It's listed I was fired for safety reasons and now im basically blacklisted from any major company. Perfectly clean driving record. They dont care. They only look at statistics not people.
My dad drove an 18 wheeler for 40 years before he retired. Union gig with the Teamsters. Of course he had his fair share of lay-offs & companies that went out of business over the years. Deregulation made it hard for Union companies to stay in business. However, he managed to earn a good living, and retired with a fantastic pension. Those kinds of jobs just don't exist anymore.
Firing people won't make the money reappear and won't unfuck the error. What it will do is lose you an employee who has now learned something useful about avoiding that.
rockmanx853000
Truck driver realizes the truck is going faster and the engine sounds less trained. Thinks nothing more about it.
DOcelot1
https://imgur.com/yVXlmuA.mp4
FlyByGRider
Yeah film then instead of just trying to get their attention
TheFastpaws
That looks expensive.
bbrtki
Maybe look behind you every so n then?
Resistance1000
That wouldn't be visible in the truck's mirrors.
DropDrop
Heavy metal coils typically weigh between 10,000 to 60,000 lbs, so that is going to be a heavy mess
Eyhlix
Get a couple tweakers out there with metal shears or reciprocating saws
absinthemindedprofessor
POOPING
iusedtodream
ESTOY
HandoB4Javert
Foiled again!
[shakes fist at sky]
nevergoingtogiveyouupnevergoingtoletyoudown
This is one of the many reasons rolls aren't normally oriented this way. There is honestly no safe way, but it confuses me why they aren't covered better to prevent air resistance related problems.
tinydog
If improperly secured, they can also roll forward and smash the cab.
morningxafter
Damn, that diarrhea parasite is even effecting the trucks now, too??
ExecutiveProducerWolfDyck
I don't think it's in america.
BlackTrashTiger
Literally me on the toilet right now
BavarianGuy
underrated...
Dannoboyo
I'd pull around him and get him to stop, but then I'd have to stop filming.
nclu
Yeah, can't tell because of the silly music. But this is the sort of thing the horn was made for. My very first day of driving I saw an unsecured load dropping the driver wasn't aware of and pulled up alongside the cab honking, my dad rolled down his window in the passenger seat and started yelling and gesturing. Was a helluva first lesson.
CJAW
That's what happens when you don't slap it and say it isn't going anywhere
Djkb6718
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Cilvaa
I unwinds explosively and kills you
Elkarlo77
I think the Driver did it, but someone cheaped out at the factory. Normaly there are two Metalbands in the Coil to prevent that.
StunttheRunt
(Breathe in, now breathe out) Hands up, now hands down
(Back up, back up) Tell me what you're gonna do now
Keep unrollin', rollin', rollin', rollin' (What?)
Keep unrollin', rollin', rollin', rollin' (Come on)
Keep unrollin', rollin', rollin', rollin' (Yeah)
Keep unrollin', rollin', rollin', rollin'
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LeifHietala
And they just...watch him go.
UptightBanana
The coil itself was never properly secured prior to loading on the truck. There should have been banding going through the center of the coil and around the outside to prevent this from happening. Some suit in management thought they could save a few coins by not using any banding through the center - "it'll be fine, nothing will happen. What can go wrong?"
CaptnVatka
That's an expensive oops.
Atomsk
The right thing to do would be to step on the gas and signal the driver. But no: slowing down for making a video and internet points it is.
Feralkyn
The silver sedan that shot past and pulled up was FAR more on the ball
Tortilla8000
Anyone know the song name? Thanks
hardcoredore5
If you have another device use Google's song search. Hold it up to your phone's speaker.
Tortilla8000
Ah, thanks for the tip! I tried it but nothing came up, maybe it’s some new remix or something. Thanks again!
hardcoredore5
Np.
BavarianGuy
Is it me or is the most enraging thing the driver filming instead of immediately pulling in front of the truck?
isthisjunkmail
China? China.
BaddieValentina
I've been fired for something similar but not as life or death. I dropped a spool of wire off my flat bed. It was small, maybe 2x2ft.
VindictiveBathToaster
Honestly, this isn’t the truck drivers fault. The manufacturer should have put banding straps from the middle to the outside which would have prevented this from happening, unless the straps broke, which is also why they usually put 3 on, because the chance of all three breaking is very rare.
VagabondEngineer
Well, sheet...
ongabonga
sonicthemariomasterchief
That's so metal
SoftKleenex
Pours out on left lane, let's pull over to the right so it's spread across all lanes
StarscreamAndHutch
Yep. Just fuck up the whole thing for everyone.
Sacababeach
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mirrorz
"Uh oh. I'm growin' a tail" - Squirrely Dan
CinnamonBunny
Do not unmute
Relictivity
Crappy generic thumpy electronic muzak.
BavarianGuy
Listen you little sh..... I would have never unmuted without your comment....
CinnamonBunny
Hate when that happens
TheLastSpaceman
Someone is fired
HuskyDude1
If they fire that licensed driver... the other 49 drivers using the same license will be out of work too...
iamlegendinjapan
This is China
HuskyDude1
My apologies... I thought it was Canada.
DustinJL
Considering all the other ways transporting those can go wrong, that's not actually that bad.
They are still going to get fired, but at least they are ALIVE to be fired.
thatwoodguy
This is on whoever bundled up that roll at the factory. It's supposed to have straps going right angles around both sides keeping the inside from unspooling like that
Kilo11
They dont call them death loads for nothing
jridley
That's the fault of whoever didn't strap it properly at the foundry. There's supposed to be at least a couple of steel straps through the core to stop this happening.
10001110101periodictablewithasantapieceofmind
Nah not even fired... yelled at, certainly
kahlas
That spool unwinding that way isn't on the driver. The company that manufactured and paid to ship it should have put banding straps on it if it was capable of doing this going down the road.
HetOlorin9Img0
Yeah, imagine getting fired while you are dead.
BatmanAndCradleRobin
are they not only like 30k at most? I dunno if thats end of career bad
MapleSyrupMafia
Pretty sure the factory is to blame there. Those usually have straps in the center to prevent that before it's even loaded on a truck.
keyserv
I doubt the driver prepped the spool for shipping.
SaturnineCult
This is in China, workers have rights there compared to 'murica, believe it or not.
minqapoc
....the right to obey, shut up and sleep 4 hours a day? China and worker's rights?
PackedCatMeowingPowerDensity
You are delusional if you think that is what they subject their people and not have a revolt. Chinese work days are 10-12 hours but I think 7 days a week. They do get a few holidays off. It is not good by any stretch but not as horribly dystopian as you think. Anymore at least, China is a developing society and they realized people cannot consume products if not given free time
FartingWiener
10-12 hours 7 days a week sounds reasonable to you? That's about as dystopian as it gets
PackedCatMeowingPowerDensity
not reasonable but "survivable" compared to your suggestion.
HighLordRegentofChaos
So, none. Unless they have a functioning Union.
Spectrem12
How would this be the truckers fault... and not the fault of whomever packed and loaded it? This seems like a packaging issue... I know its up to the trucker to confirm the load is ready and safe for transport, but this seems similar to a couple bolts in some heavy machinery just snapping and causing part of the machinery to fall off... Is the trucker responsible for confirming every bolt is tightened to its torque limits?
floresFlyer
Agree
maito
Ivalicenyan
I doubt it's the trucker's fault for a one in a million freak accident for a 3 mile roll of aluminum to become undone from the inside when those rolls come out of, are loaded, and secured by the factory.
Waschbaerkoenig
There usually is a metal band that prevents exactly this. If this was missing when he took off, it is - at least partially - his/her fault (at least according to our laws). If it somehow snapped while he was driving, it's probably a fault of the factory, because the band wasn't properly installed. Or just ruled an annoying accident caused by bad material.
Since nobody will come forward saying 'I screwed up', it's probably gonna be the latter.
IncognitoEnthusiast
Depends, some truckers are drive only and it's in the contract for that shipment that the people loading it are supposed to do all of that. But also depends on the laws of the state they are in. Or like you said the band could have snapped, which happens a lot more than you would think.
thegarts
He didn’t snap the strap.
OlympicPenguin
Drivers responsibility in the end to ensure the load is secure prior to transport. Though this was the fault of whoever secured it, the driver still wears it.
TacoPoweredHelicopter
Looks like the driver had it secured fine, that is not how it failed.
The driver is responsible if the securing failed. This was a roll incorrectly packed at the factory that is their responsibility.
Elkarlo77
Normaly there should be two Metal bands on the Coil. To prevent exactly that. The Driver has not the Equipment to apply it and if he uses a ratchet strap, it will be cutt by the metal. So even if he used a ratchet strap, which he might have done, the result would be the same. The only possibility would have been to refuse to transport ist without the Metal Bands.
BigRobbo
Weirdly back in the UK there was this really weird edge case where drivers could not be responsible. We used to drag a lot of "sealed" loads. Which had security seals applied at the loading point. Since we couldn't open and inspect if an incident occurred (and I know of at least once case where it did) the Driver wasn't responsible. That said outside of this rare case, the Driver was absolutely responsible for ensuring that the trailer and its load were secured.
OlympicPenguin
He would still be responsible for ensuring tbatever the load was in was secured to the vehicle. Unless they security sealed an entire trailer
BigRobbo
Thats exactly what I meant. Sealed trailer the driver cannot open the trailer until they reach the delivery point.
boevis
China, so they're not fired, they're just demoted to cheating at video games for in game currency.
CaldariBob
A good game?
ThingsThatDontJustifyGenocide
Only in western video games. No cheating internally.
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ThingsThatDontJustifyGenocide
Yes. It's actually illegal in their internal market.
VindictiveBathToaster
Crustyfluffy
Unlike OPs vid, this one IS the drivers responsibility.
thewiggins
it is ALWAYS the driver's responsibility to check the load
The11thPlague
Yes, if you are an 18 year old newly hired for cheap, and they tell you that everything is fine, and that time is money, you can totally tell them "no, this won't do" without getting fired...
VindictiveBathToaster
I think the OPs video is shared responsibility between the manufacturer and the driver. If you look at my video, you’ll see there are four binding straps going from the inside of the spool to the outside. In OPs video, there aren’t any. Those straps, which are done by the manufacturer, are all missing and I believe it was partly the drivers responsibility for not make my sure they were there to properly secure his load.
Corrodias
Is this an industry that has enough CDL drivers that it can afford to fire every person who ever makes a single mistake? I'm not sure that's a good business plan, regardless, but even a bad plan can be executed if you have enough people looking for jobs, I suppose.
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valen00
firing people who have learnt expensive lessons is a weird habit. If people keep doing it sure, but you know.
ElyriaCrusnik
I transfered companies and got a shortened orientation because I had experience. I was then fired for making a LEGAL u-turn because they forgot to mention that their company has a no u-turn policy. All the major US companies use the same hiring site called drivers portal. It's listed I was fired for safety reasons and now im basically blacklisted from any major company. Perfectly clean driving record. They dont care. They only look at statistics not people.
WammoJammo
CDL drivers don't last long the pay is terrible.
hardcoredore5
My dad drove an 18 wheeler for 40 years before he retired. Union gig with the Teamsters. Of course he had his fair share of lay-offs & companies that went out of business over the years. Deregulation made it hard for Union companies to stay in business. However, he managed to earn a good living, and retired with a fantastic pension. Those kinds of jobs just don't exist anymore.
iusedtodream
At least the hours are gruelling.
slightlybrokenegg
Considering that 5* their salary is laying on the highway yes probably multiple people.
Corrodias
Firing people won't make the money reappear and won't unfuck the error. What it will do is lose you an employee who has now learned something useful about avoiding that.
Metalsmith21
The trucking industry in the USA is built on exploitation. There will always be truckers to be taken advantage of.
Harbltron
Not once the rigs drive themselves there won't be
MrNobodyWTB
But this video was taken in China
Corrodias
But are they truckers that have never made a single mistake?
Goldensands
Doesn't matter. Its america, the cruelty is the point.
Corrodias
true
HeWhoMustNotBeBlamed
Isn’t pretty much every industry in the US built on exploitation?
sv1rr
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iusedtodream
Hahahahahahahaha yes.