lol...first time I met "this guy" at work 26 yrs ago...is he gay? He was so gay. No, he's married with kids, they said. 10 yrs ago...he came out and is now happily married to another man. He's from a time when that simply wasn't allowed so he got married and had kids. JD is def gay...I am not but my gaydar says he is. Same with Lindsay Graham...how they're allowed to exist in the GOPisphere is strange. My wife also doesn't like sucking D...does that make her gay?
Nearing eight years old, my son has said some girls are pretty. And some boys are cute. Who knows what will come of that. Regardless of what he is, he's still cutting the grass.
Gay, maybe? Trans, probable. Super uncomfortable in his own skin, performing masculinity in such a strange way, name changes as he tries to find an identity he can be comfortable in...
Imagine you're fucking your sofa and then later your wife comes to you with a positive pregnancy test, and you're like, "how the fuck did that happen?!
The reverse is insane too, a young girl finding out she was attracted to guys. Would "mama" say "you like to suck dick right?" To confirm her sexuality?? It is just all the way around a weird ass question. It is clearly only intended to be shocking and to shame, otherwise she would have asked him "do you want to lick cooch?" Pretty sure a kid would also say no, regardless of preference. Cause its weird to ask.
as a straight dude i can confirm, when i was 9yo sucking tiddies and eating pussy was nowhere on my list of things i ever wanted to do...those priorities shifted strongly during puberty tho...
Right. And even if it were true it creates a binary system when like... maybe I want to do both, or dont want to do either. The whole point of it is absurd.
Figuratively, barometer is in reference to any metric or indicator that reflects changes in a political, social, or economic environment. Gay rights and acceptance has both risen and fallen over the years, much like a barometer.
Ah, true. Well to answer the original question, it's conservatives who insist drag is gay. And while it's not a Venn Circle, you have to admit it overlaps a bit more than straight.
I have no idea what JD Vance's feelings are in anything because he's a politician that is willing to change his views on Trump being the next Hitler to being Trump's vice president he will say or do whatever it takes to get more power or whatever Peter thiel tells him to do or say
Yeah, imagine a) anyone asking that of a little girl and b) when she obviously replies "ew, gross, boys are icky," concluding she's a lesbian. Absolute insanity.
Maybe for you, but there are plenty of guys who won't go down regardless of any hygiene. Don't even get me started on the guy's who will ask you to go down on them but don't shower
JD wasn't talking to his mom, she wasn't in the picture. It was his Mamaw - his gramma - who up and asked her 3rd grade grandson if he wanted to suck dick. What a fucked-up family. Oh, and btw Mamaw set fire to her own husband. That's in the book, too.
Hell, everybody was reading it when it first came out before anyone had realized what an absolute asshole Vance-or-whatever-his-name-might-once-have-been actually is. It's ok if you don't read. I do, and Hillbilly Elegy was on everyone's tbr list in 2016.
I know the whole "men who are anti-gay are secretly gay" thing is a stereotypical trope, but this is an interesting case and wouldnt shock me at all tbh
Hey, that was true with my ex !!! Constantly bashing gays, advocating castration….. my 18 year old self thought he couldn’t be gay (35, unmarried, but claimed to have been engaged to a woman in his office and had affairs with women) because he was always violently insulting them. I couldn’t “prove anything “ for 14 years and felt trapped and powerless by a Catholic marriage. He gave AiDs to my hairdresser because I defended and praised him; both died within two years.
It isn't just a trope. It happens too often. It's also because of exactly this example. Extremist Christians made up a verse about gay being a sin and drive that in to kids early and grind them in to the belief that if they were gay, they'd go to hell. They are angry and unhappy and take it out on the world.
A trope is just a recognized pattern, a stereotype is when you take a pattern that affects a small amount of something and apply it to the entire group. Like even if ~20% of anti-lgbt republicans were closeted homosexuals, its a stereotype to assume 100% are. (Numbers made up to prove logic, Idk the real number of closet republicans) Still a viable as a trend though.
It's a trope because it allows straight men to pretend like their sexual desire for women means they like women and therefor can't be misogynists. Conservatism validates the self-loathing a closet case has, but it also validates the regular bigotry cishet people have. The former makes for a better story, but numbers wise, the latter is way more common because cishet people are more common.
Grinder has never crashed when a conservative convention is in town. That was a joke article that straight people have decided to treat like it's true because you think it's a get-out-of-jail-free card for being able to make shitty jokes about gay people.
If it were bullshit, then you'd have evidence of it happening rather than just a gif response. Facts matter or they don't. You can call yourself a rational person if you continue to believe a falsehood because you just really like the idea of it. (Also maybe think about why you like the idea of this so much? What is is about gay men that you feel compelled to invent fake bad ones to hate on?)
There are plenty of articles that are NOT joke articles about this. https://www.newsweek.com/grindr-app-crashes-milwaukee-rnc-1927750 There are a lot more than just one article. This has nothing to do with making shitty jokes about "gay people". I am a proud supporter of LGBTQ+ rights. But the truth is there are surges on grindr during those events. How is it a shitty joke?
From that article- "Grindr's official status updates show there hasn't been an outage since May." What there actually are are a bunch of articles all reporting the same hearsay from one website that 'tracks outages' from user reports alone, something that only seems to have started after the joke article. That's not evidence. It's just your confirmation bias desperately grasping at straws so you can keep your get-out-of-homophobia-free card.
I mean, they are just following the "be gay, do crimes" rhetoric. It just sucks that the crimes they gravitate to are the ones that enrich the already wealthy and oppress the people.
From the article- "Grindr's official status updates show there hasn't been an outage since May." Newsweek is reporting hearsay from one website that 'tracks outages' via user reports, and it's doing that because it gets clicks from idiots like you seeking support for your confirmation bias. There is no evidence gay dating sites crash, very sketchy evidence that they experience surges, but cishet people just keep insisting it's true because they want it to be.
Pretending that Downdetector isn’t a valid source is not a good strategy. The report is that Grindr was not accessible from Milwaukee. Not that there was a systemwide outage. Systemwide issues are the only things Grindr’s official status page tracks. I clicked back through the last 2 years of incidents and never once did they report a localized issue, only systemwide ones. Downdetector, going off user reports, is a far better source for localized outages. This is a real effect.
I'm not the first to say it, Trump would have been a perfect and much happier catty drag queen but losera got ahold of him and got him into... ew finance...
OutspokenHBW
It's ok and human to be sad for the child they used to be, just never forget the person they are now.
Blunderwriter
lol...first time I met "this guy" at work 26 yrs ago...is he gay? He was so gay. No, he's married with kids, they said. 10 yrs ago...he came out and is now happily married to another man. He's from a time when that simply wasn't allowed so he got married and had kids. JD is def gay...I am not but my gaydar says he is. Same with Lindsay Graham...how they're allowed to exist in the GOPisphere is strange. My wife also doesn't like sucking D...does that make her gay?
SodomySnake
Well, he does like appletinis.
IJustWantToMakeAComment
A couch is neither man nor woman so I think he is just sofasexual
Blackmetalhappiness
Nearing eight years old, my son has said some girls are pretty. And some boys are cute. Who knows what will come of that. Regardless of what he is, he's still cutting the grass.
ThatOtherGirlYouKnow
Gay, maybe? Trans, probable. Super uncomfortable in his own skin, performing masculinity in such a strange way, name changes as he tries to find an identity he can be comfortable in...
Dybidude5
So you tell us the couches were all male?
rmx256
Makes sense.
Voojagig
Dude would borrow DeSantis' Boots in a heart beat.
Chaapai
He's so gay!
WhatInTheSamhillisaPuma
Dude didn't gsy.... just sexually attracted to couches.
DropDrop
Imagine you're fucking your sofa and then later your wife comes to you with a positive pregnancy test, and you're like, "how the fuck did that happen?!
genericanamoly
Yeah... no duh. I mean the mascara has always been a dead giveaway.
fartharder
How one presents themselves does not necessarily align with their gender identity nor sexuality, I mean, it often does, just not always.
GwensBackOnHerBS
I think he's actually trans... there were photos of him in drag that were more than silliness.
DaveSamsonite
There were multiple men from his college days that stated he was often in gay bars. As one does.
SliderOfElay
I mean, I tell you that if you want to party without drugs and include dancing then a gay party is far better than any cis party.
normalizebeingalone
The reverse is insane too, a young girl finding out she was attracted to guys. Would "mama" say "you like to suck dick right?" To confirm her sexuality?? It is just all the way around a weird ass question. It is clearly only intended to be shocking and to shame, otherwise she would have asked him "do you want to lick cooch?" Pretty sure a kid would also say no, regardless of preference. Cause its weird to ask.
RecurringNightmare
as a straight dude i can confirm, when i was 9yo sucking tiddies and eating pussy was nowhere on my list of things i ever wanted to do...those priorities shifted strongly during puberty tho...
normalizebeingalone
Right. And even if it were true it creates a binary system when like... maybe I want to do both, or dont want to do either. The whole point of it is absurd.
TupacAintDead
Can he find a gay couch?
idiotsonfire
I don't fucking care if the Nazi is a Nazi because they're a homophobe or closeted, I ONLY CARE THEY'RE A NAZI, I DON'T GIVE A FUCK WHY!
idiotsonfire
Stop telling me that the only people who want to hurt me are from my fucking community.
MrSwissroll
Is he trying to say "parameter?" I thought barometers were for air pressure
TomBrokaw
Barometer is also used the way he's using it, as a generic indicator of something being measured
asucks
Figuratively, barometer is in reference to any metric or indicator that reflects changes in a political, social, or economic environment. Gay rights and acceptance has both risen and fallen over the years, much like a barometer.
MrSwissroll
Ah, that makes more sense. Thank you, good sir!
cosworth
This guy has perfect hair.
DrSchlepenstein
JD is a sofasexual.
Bizarkly
Now that *is* "a choice"...
slack3rdav3
JFC that dude's hair is straight Ken Doll lol
Xenarion
God, I hate this drag = gay trope. Just let people enjoy things regardless of sex, gender, or sexual orientation.
DrewK98
Who said drag?
Xenarion
The guy in the video did, at -0:52
"Not to mention his college years when he did drag"
DrewK98
Ah, true. Well to answer the original question, it's conservatives who insist drag is gay. And while it's not a Venn Circle, you have to admit it overlaps a bit more than straight.
Arbitrarynamehere
It's evidence of him not being the perfectly straight conservative man he presents himself to be.
tinydog
Pretty sure his boss swings that way too. Just ask Bubba.
YpsilantiRomani
I have no idea what JD Vance's feelings are in anything because he's a politician that is willing to change his views on Trump being the next Hitler to being Trump's vice president he will say or do whatever it takes to get more power or whatever Peter thiel tells him to do or say
reineseele
Republicans especially change their views three times a day before an election based on which they think gets them more votes.
jojoyojimbi
well peter thiel is gay so backing a secretly gay republicunt that he can out when convenient if he gets out of line seems super plausible
jshann
I thought he was sofasexual
EverNotRelevant
Not gonna lie, I didn't understand a single word. Too busy looking at that face.
BooRidley
cis male here. That is a good lookin’ dude!
seedye
Barrett Pall, former model.
brainkandle1
Is it mascara or weird long eyelashes like Nestor Carbonell? https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0004801/?ref_=ext_shr
Will we ever know?
Subwayfootlong3
Ah yes, I remember the time when I was nine years old and talked to my mom about sucking d..... it was just a perfectly normal conversation /s
likerice
For Republicans
AndTheArghnauts
Yeah, imagine a) anyone asking that of a little girl and b) when she obviously replies "ew, gross, boys are icky," concluding she's a lesbian. Absolute insanity.
MasterBountakun
Also, I gotta say it, plenty of grown adult men will not eat pussy, guess any guy who won't is just gay.
Subwayfootlong3
Depends on the girl. Some just don't seem to wash down there. 🤢
MasterBountakun
Maybe for you, but there are plenty of guys who won't go down regardless of any hygiene. Don't even get me started on the guy's who will ask you to go down on them but don't shower
darkoshen
JD wasn't talking to his mom, she wasn't in the picture. It was his Mamaw - his gramma - who up and asked her 3rd grade grandson if he wanted to suck dick. What a fucked-up family. Oh, and btw Mamaw set fire to her own husband. That's in the book, too.
SleazyBijou
Why are you reading this shit?
darkoshen
Hell, everybody was reading it when it first came out before anyone had realized what an absolute asshole Vance-or-whatever-his-name-might-once-have-been actually is. It's ok if you don't read. I do, and Hillbilly Elegy was on everyone's tbr list in 2016.
SleazyBijou
Just saying that is one book I feel safe judging by its cover. Did you also enjoy Rush revere’s time travel series?
Guisso14
Jd strictly has sex with couches. Couches are nonbinary
kirmokum
it's pretty wild that the world is being actively ruined by the worst gay men in history.
CanITroubleYouForAWarmGlassOfSHUTTHEHELLUP
I know the whole "men who are anti-gay are secretly gay" thing is a stereotypical trope, but this is an interesting case and wouldnt shock me at all tbh
dawnkelly3160
Hey, that was true with my ex !!! Constantly bashing gays, advocating castration….. my 18 year old self thought he couldn’t be gay (35, unmarried, but claimed to have been engaged to a woman in his office and had affairs with women) because he was always violently insulting them. I couldn’t “prove anything “ for 14 years and felt trapped and powerless by a Catholic marriage. He gave AiDs to my hairdresser because I defended and praised him; both died within two years.
Bojovnik84
It isn't just a trope. It happens too often. It's also because of exactly this example. Extremist Christians made up a verse about gay being a sin and drive that in to kids early and grind them in to the belief that if they were gay, they'd go to hell. They are angry and unhappy and take it out on the world.
TexMexHex
Folks that are extremely anti-gay are either gay or a pedophile.
weidermeijer
A lot of actual occurrences created stereotypes.
OnlyWantToSayOneThing
A trope is just a recognized pattern, a stereotype is when you take a pattern that affects a small amount of something and apply it to the entire group. Like even if ~20% of anti-lgbt republicans were closeted homosexuals, its a stereotype to assume 100% are. (Numbers made up to prove logic, Idk the real number of closet republicans) Still a viable as a trend though.
CALAMOSCOPYJANE
Homophobia is projection, 100%.
scrumbles666
It's a trope because it allows straight men to pretend like their sexual desire for women means they like women and therefor can't be misogynists. Conservatism validates the self-loathing a closet case has, but it also validates the regular bigotry cishet people have. The former makes for a better story, but numbers wise, the latter is way more common because cishet people are more common.
Avenkal19
Things don't become tropes for no reason.
TheWombatStrikesAgain
Every time there's a Republican convention in town, you can see a localised spike in the use of Grindr, an exclusively gay dating app.
Self-hate and suppressing important aspects of yourself can lead to weird psychological reactions.
Bojovnik84
This is most Republican men. It's why Grindr crashes every time CPAC is in town, or any other large gathering of Republican men.
scrumbles666
Grinder has never crashed when a conservative convention is in town. That was a joke article that straight people have decided to treat like it's true because you think it's a get-out-of-jail-free card for being able to make shitty jokes about gay people.
ROGUEdenied
scrumbles666
If it were bullshit, then you'd have evidence of it happening rather than just a gif response. Facts matter or they don't. You can call yourself a rational person if you continue to believe a falsehood because you just really like the idea of it. (Also maybe think about why you like the idea of this so much? What is is about gay men that you feel compelled to invent fake bad ones to hate on?)
ROGUEdenied
There are plenty of articles that are NOT joke articles about this. https://www.newsweek.com/grindr-app-crashes-milwaukee-rnc-1927750 There are a lot more than just one article. This has nothing to do with making shitty jokes about "gay people". I am a proud supporter of LGBTQ+ rights. But the truth is there are surges on grindr during those events. How is it a shitty joke?
scrumbles666
From that article- "Grindr's official status updates show there hasn't been an outage since May." What there actually are are a bunch of articles all reporting the same hearsay from one website that 'tracks outages' from user reports alone, something that only seems to have started after the joke article. That's not evidence. It's just your confirmation bias desperately grasping at straws so you can keep your get-out-of-homophobia-free card.
TheWhiteBarry
Republicans are racist but secretly gay. Democrats are gay but secretly racist.
darkoshen
Oh, boy. Here we go.
igetit41
I mean, they are just following the "be gay, do crimes" rhetoric. It just sucks that the crimes they gravitate to are the ones that enrich the already wealthy and oppress the people.
RacecarIsRacecarBackwards
Is that true or just a myth? There are so many things I only read about on here. I really can't tell how truthful some of them are.
scrumbles666
It was a joke article from the Hardtimes. People want it to true because it lets them make shitty gay jokes again.
M4UsedRollout
https://www.newsweek.com/grindr-app-crashes-milwaukee-rnc-1927750
Newsweek says it’s real.
There are spikes in usage during RNC events but only in the city of the event.
It also notes that the DNC has had similar spikes, but those aren’t hypocritical so nobody cares.
scrumbles666
From the article- "Grindr's official status updates show there hasn't been an outage since May." Newsweek is reporting hearsay from one website that 'tracks outages' via user reports, and it's doing that because it gets clicks from idiots like you seeking support for your confirmation bias. There is no evidence gay dating sites crash, very sketchy evidence that they experience surges, but cishet people just keep insisting it's true because they want it to be.
M4UsedRollout
Pretending that Downdetector isn’t a valid source is not a good strategy. The report is that Grindr was not accessible from Milwaukee. Not that there was a systemwide outage. Systemwide issues are the only things Grindr’s official status page tracks. I clicked back through the last 2 years of incidents and never once did they report a localized issue, only systemwide ones. Downdetector, going off user reports, is a far better source for localized outages.
This is a real effect.
MasterBountakun
I'm not the first to say it, Trump would have been a perfect and much happier catty drag queen but losera got ahold of him and got him into... ew finance...
Greenmagegirl
Trump also commonly strokes 2 air dicks, talking about big beautiful muscular strong handsome men
boostcreep
jayman0123
Arnold Palmer. That is all
InitHello
And, for some reason, how big and beautiful their aubergine emojis are.
RacecarIsRacecarBackwards
YMCA is probably the gayest song there is and they chose it as their anthem.
Bojovnik84
He blew Bubba after all.
boostcreep
NightOwlRally
And Arnold Palmer's penis