Unmarked car slams into your vans side, no sirens on, no lights on hooligans wearing masks yelling you to pull over no one in their right mind would for fear of their life. If someone had a CCW in self defense there would be rounds fired at the other cars occupants.
Coverup sort of implies they’re trying to keep it a secret though. It’s more like intimidation - everybody knows it happened, they just need to remove or threaten anyone that would testify against them.
the irony is that if those witnesses do not self deport there will likely be more witnesses of some other killings that will be the next to asked to self-deport.
If people are getting shot for not running over Ice agents, I guess we might as well just start running over Ice agents. I don't mean when they walk in front of your stopped car to harass you, I mean full on residential zone 25 mph, never hitting the breaks, because they're Ice agents, and it's premeditated self defense.
the guys in charge desperately want to impose martial law though. Especially to prevent the next election. Remember every ice agent gets a $50k bonus? That's $10k/year with a clawback that if they get fired or quit in the next 5 years they have to pay it back EVERY ice agent is in debt the the US government and financially motivated to keep trump in power. Every one of them
They bumped their numbers. It was 1000 arrests daily. Now they are swinging for 10k daily. It's not getting better. It's getting worse. If this were reversed and dems were doing something the magets didn't want, they would find a way to stop it. This is why the DSA (dem socialists) gives me hope. Nothing the centrists are doing is helpful or improving. We need these old fogies out and replaced with people that actually want change that the public wants and needs.
There is surveillance footage showing the chase and it's almost certain that the van driver didn't try to run anybody over. The unmakred black ice vehicles were chasing the guy without any lights or sirens or any kind of identification. If anybody got rammed, it would be the fault of ice for using their vehicles thusly.
Same as the Goode murder when the ice agent stepped in front of her car which an officer should be trained NOT to do or something a normal person with common sense wouldn't do.
Funding issues? They are the second most funded thing in the country right now, the literally have all the fucking money while we are wondering how to buy a fucking pencil to do our own cancer research because everything else is defunded.
"Oh you say the police are out of control and unaccountable? I guess we'd better..." *checks notes* "...increase their funding by billions of dollars."
I think that an immediate armed response would send an easily-understandable message, but the repercussions might be intolerable. Perhaps a night-time raid on the murderer's domicle?
I wasnt there and i havent seen anything on this incident but if a car has more than one person in it and it is going to ram someone then it would be highly likely that everyone in the car is open to the idea of ramming someone, would that not be reason enough to take there statements as bias and potentially altered to make them all look innocent?
Thank you! And even if every thing she says is fact, it completely undercuts the messaging and is so easily discredited as some idiot sharing their opinion
Its even more fun when they clip the lav mic to another object and use that as a mic cover. So now they are like talking into a Pokémon card or something.
World cup fans seem to be having a good time here. As they say "If you want to hate America, turn on the news. If you want to love America travel through it"
If I could leave - if I had the resources and a destination - I'd seriously consider leaving. But I built a life here with hard work and I'll be damned if I'll let the bastards win. We're wearied, but not subjugated just yet.
I'm rather surprised that the world cup seems to be doing pretty good. The Scotts took over Boston and the Netherlands took over a Houston street with their Orange Wave heading to the stadium. Other places too. kinda surprised. I guess the rest of the world isnt aware of the current political environment in the US, especially regarding non-Americans.
The thing is the worst of us took over the government, but the majority of the US in person is alright people. We just have this issue that when you group up our idiots they become even dumber and gullible
As a Canadian I see what you're going through. I also have relatives there. America is a beautiful country with mostly great people, but until things improve I'll be staying home.
Yep, I'm careful to separate America from Americans. Most of my online friends are Americans. The problem is the institutions of government and policing that are serving the interests of the worst of them, like the Pedo in Chief.
Your entire society is tainted and unless punishments are irreversible the rot will always keep breaking the law to undo them, and capitalize on it faster than the law reacts. Like with the pardons for the coup.
Who's cute and quirky? Im sending a fucking message. Im sorry you dont get it. Maybe you'd prefer to just stand in the street and yell like most americans who wont do a fucking thing effectice to stop fascism.
Weird? Lol yet revenge stories are some of the most popular throughout history. Just because you dont understand the cathartic release doesn't means other's don't.
Having them disappear doesnt send a message. Doesn't have those coming in behind them realizing what can happen if they don't change the broken fucking system.
Stories about infidelity, racism, misogyny, and a general embracement of xenophobia and bigotry are also wildly popular narratives throughout history. It's almost like just being popular doesn't automatically mean something is a good thing to do.
There's also a bit of a gradient here. It's not the "these people need to face serious consequences, up to and including execution" that makes it weird, it's the "by being literally tortured to death on live TV" part.
The difference being that revenge stories are to this day more often than not portrayed as good motivations. Literally spawning sub tropes.
Its almost like. No one said that it being popular means its good. You said weird. Weird =/= good or bad. So do the world a favour and maybe don't lie?
Point to where someone said tortured to death on live TV? Maybe instead of making shit up to get mad about and then looking like an idiot for lying... you just... dont act like trump? Try it?
Maybe you can point out here where you quoted me saying "these people need to face serious consequences, ip to and including execution" or "by being literally tortured to death on live tv" SURELY you wouldnt just be LYING again... riiiiiiiight? That would be acting like trump. Are you gonna taco too? Run away without being able to quote the thing you said you were quoting?
Awww failing to meet your own standards again eh coward? How saaaaaaaad of you. Do you need a tissue?
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Bundalicious
Why didn't ICE just kill the witnesses? Nobody would have done a thing.
PushPullMagnet
KR1570F
ICE is a private military working on the orders of racists and white supremacist leaders pretending to be law enforcement
Grimlinnan
Stand your ground, shoot first. They are murderers.
JackingMeHoff
Unmarked car slams into your vans side, no sirens on, no lights on hooligans wearing masks yelling you to pull over no one in their right mind would for fear of their life. If someone had a CCW in self defense there would be rounds fired at the other cars occupants.
crossingdynasty
Coverup sort of implies they’re trying to keep it a secret though. It’s more like intimidation - everybody knows it happened, they just need to remove or threaten anyone that would testify against them.
psmith00
the irony is that if those witnesses do not self deport there will likely be more witnesses of some other killings that will be the next to asked to self-deport.
J3lek
If people are getting shot for not running over Ice agents, I guess we might as well just start running over Ice agents. I don't mean when they walk in front of your stopped car to harass you, I mean full on residential zone 25 mph, never hitting the breaks, because they're Ice agents, and it's premeditated self defense.
FlyingButtPliers
the guys in charge desperately want to impose martial law though. Especially to prevent the next election. Remember every ice agent gets a $50k bonus? That's $10k/year with a clawback that if they get fired or quit in the next 5 years they have to pay it back EVERY ice agent is in debt the the US government and financially motivated to keep trump in power. Every one of them
kittyfajitas
A "preemptive strike", if you will.
AIisAbutnotI
No, your Honor, I was in fear for my life when I saw that it was an ICE agent. It was premeditated self-defense.
drowninginthesouth
They bumped their numbers. It was 1000 arrests daily. Now they are swinging for 10k daily. It's not getting better. It's getting worse. If this were reversed and dems were doing something the magets didn't want, they would find a way to stop it. This is why the DSA (dem socialists) gives me hope. Nothing the centrists are doing is helpful or improving. We need these old fogies out and replaced with people that actually want change that the public wants and needs.
zHurk777
There is surveillance footage showing the chase and it's almost certain that the van driver didn't try to run anybody over. The unmakred black ice vehicles were chasing the guy without any lights or sirens or any kind of identification. If anybody got rammed, it would be the fault of ice for using their vehicles thusly.
zHurk777
Same as the Goode murder when the ice agent stepped in front of her car which an officer should be trained NOT to do or something a normal person with common sense wouldn't do.
justadude41123
Funding issues? They are the second most funded thing in the country right now, the literally have all the fucking money while we are wondering how to buy a fucking pencil to do our own cancer research because everything else is defunded.
Harbltron
"Oh you say the police are out of control and unaccountable? I guess we'd better..." *checks notes* "...increase their funding by billions of dollars."
darkoshen
I think that an immediate armed response would send an easily-understandable message, but the repercussions might be intolerable. Perhaps a night-time raid on the murderer's domicle?
rfleming1080
This is in Texas, the one state I would expect people to rise up against this shit, but nope.
bennux
Do these posters know that a "lapel* mic has a clip on it?
superalbatross
I wasnt there and i havent seen anything on this incident but if a car has more than one person in it and it is going to ram someone then it would be highly likely that everyone in the car is open to the idea of ramming someone, would that not be reason enough to take there statements as bias and potentially altered to make them all look innocent?
getyourfruitoffmeyoudamndirtygrapes
Unrelated, but i get irrationally annoyed when I see people holding a clip-on lav mic...in their hand....it's a CLIP-ON mic.
everynightisladiesnight
Thank you! And even if every thing she says is fact, it completely undercuts the messaging and is so easily discredited as some idiot sharing their opinion
Hypothesist
SploogeMcDuck316
Its even more fun when they clip the lav mic to another object and use that as a mic cover. So now they are like talking into a Pokémon card or something.
bloobiebloob
This could have been a voice over.
helljack
This comment could have remained an internal thought.
mcoulter876
Could've also included the " advocacy group" mentioned and a link Imgurians are suddenly wetting themselves to obtain.
morninggloryshade777
END ICE VIA A MASSIVE NATIONAL DEMAND. REMOVE T et al!!!! Charge, try, sentence. Remove the head of the snake!!!!
youreathing
Just a fantastic country you all have over there. Makes people REALLY want to visit.
rfleming1080
I would agree, but the World Cup makes me disagree.
J3lek
World cup fans seem to be having a good time here. As they say "If you want to hate America, turn on the news. If you want to love America travel through it"
Thisisbullshitalready
If I could leave - if I had the resources and a destination - I'd seriously consider leaving. But I built a life here with hard work and I'll be damned if I'll let the bastards win. We're wearied, but not subjugated just yet.
jamieColorBandit
Yeah. Most of us our quite ashamed.
zHurk777
I'm rather surprised that the world cup seems to be doing pretty good. The Scotts took over Boston and the Netherlands took over a Houston street with their Orange Wave heading to the stadium. Other places too. kinda surprised. I guess the rest of the world isnt aware of the current political environment in the US, especially regarding non-Americans.
lackinglife
The thing is the worst of us took over the government, but the majority of the US in person is alright people. We just have this issue that when you group up our idiots they become even dumber and gullible
Patti71
So many of us are just incredibly embarrassed and disgusted by the type of behavior here. 😤
PotatoCatz
*Horrified
BikerRay
As a Canadian I see what you're going through. I also have relatives there. America is a beautiful country with mostly great people, but until things improve I'll be staying home.
discitus
Yep, I'm careful to separate America from Americans. Most of my online friends are Americans. The problem is the institutions of government and policing that are serving the interests of the worst of them, like the Pedo in Chief.
youreathing
I hear you. I have friends and family over there. I'm still never visiting though.
xFlenserx
A smart idea until we fix our shit
Rink257
Yeah, when our shit isn't fucked up, it's a great place to be. I believe in us and our Democracy
UpNorthAndFreezing
Ya.. we know.. we also know the DHS, ICE, republicunts, the current administration all need to be hanged
magikmarker
Repugnicans
YouRadicalizedMe
Off with their heads!
1stDrunkJoe
CECOT anyone?
PorneliusHubertII
Nah, that's getting off too easy, id happily put my tax dollars to making these idiots sit in prison and have to live with themselves.
LicensedAdHominem
They'd get freed by loyalists.
Your entire society is tainted and unless punishments are irreversible the rot will always keep breaking the law to undo them, and capitalize on it faster than the law reacts. Like with the pardons for the coup.
PorneliusHubertII
Fair point. Still dont want them to get off too easy.
LicensedAdHominem
I get the sentiment, I do. But in the end it's not about them. It's about everyone else finally breathing.
JaceCameron
From their toes. Over a pit of *insert hungry animal of your choice*
OnePotatoTwoPotatoThreePotatoFloor
No, from their necks.
Stop being cute and quirky when it comes to fascism.
JaceCameron
Who's cute and quirky? Im sending a fucking message. Im sorry you dont get it. Maybe you'd prefer to just stand in the street and yell like most americans who wont do a fucking thing effectice to stop fascism.
prosper020
Personally offended honey badgers, is my current pick. I like how they go for the groin.
HarryDresdenIsMySpiritAnimal
Me, and people like me. We are hungry, not for food, but for accountability.
Haemaelaeinen
No. Just a fest removal of living rights. Revenge fantasies are fucking weird, just get rid of them fast and clean.
ananfro
Rendering plants… they’re designed for efficient grinding and processing of corpses into useable materials. Waste not want not
theshinobi23
"I don't want them, either; they're toxic." - the plants, probably.
JaceCameron
Weird? Lol yet revenge stories are some of the most popular throughout history. Just because you dont understand the cathartic release doesn't means other's don't.
Having them disappear doesnt send a message. Doesn't have those coming in behind them realizing what can happen if they don't change the broken fucking system.
Blud4BludGod
Stories about infidelity, racism, misogyny, and a general embracement of xenophobia and bigotry are also wildly popular narratives throughout history. It's almost like just being popular doesn't automatically mean something is a good thing to do.
There's also a bit of a gradient here. It's not the "these people need to face serious consequences, up to and including execution" that makes it weird, it's the "by being literally tortured to death on live TV" part.
JaceCameron
The difference being that revenge stories are to this day more often than not portrayed as good motivations. Literally spawning sub tropes.
Its almost like. No one said that it being popular means its good. You said weird. Weird =/= good or bad. So do the world a favour and maybe don't lie?
Point to where someone said tortured to death on live TV? Maybe instead of making shit up to get mad about and then looking like an idiot for lying... you just... dont act like trump? Try it?
JaceCameron
Maybe you can point out here where you quoted me saying "these people need to face serious consequences, ip to and including execution" or "by being literally tortured to death on live tv" SURELY you wouldnt just be LYING again... riiiiiiiight? That would be acting like trump. Are you gonna taco too? Run away without being able to quote the thing you said you were quoting?
Awww failing to meet your own standards again eh coward? How saaaaaaaad of you. Do you need a tissue?
michaelfire
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michaelfire
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michaelfire
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michaelfire
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michaelfire
Eugenics? Increasing concern Right-wing oligarch US Intel contractors/ have been cutting social and health programs world-wide/ in US and Gaza as genocide/eugenics /gallery/is-us-government-its-right-wing-oligarch-intel-contractors-engaged-eugenics-increasing-concern-gkOKLwd Torture increasing globally and the political power of these German, South African immigrants huge http://imgur.com/gallery/jd-vance-peter-theil-right-wing-cia-contractor-oligarch-who-sponsored-him-arpNy8U 5
michaelfire
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