Bruh, that is LITERALLY my dayjob (digitally), and the fact these guys did that shit WITHOUT the tools I use like Ctrl+z (Undo) is just fucking baffling.
Francesco Queirolo’s Il Disinganno (The Release from Deception) took approximately seven years to complete, created between roughly 1752 and 1759. Carved from a single block of marble in Naples, Italy, the masterpiece is famous for its impossibly delicate net, which was finished by the artist himself without assistants due to its extreme fragility.
Nah. This one is prettier but the neckerchief is WAY harder. So many bumps and holes, as well as making it thin? Nah, that shit requires so much more patience and care. This piece won't shatter if the artist slips.
Nah - IMO not even close. The other has many more raised parts and holes. Lace is much harder to produce that flowing cloth. This one is great artistically, but IMO the lace is much more mind-blowing from the standpoint of how much work and skill it took.
Right. The veil is an illusion. Looks amazing, but it's still a solid piece of marble with the surface carved to look like it's a thin piece of gauze. The lace requires carving out paper thin sections of rock - and you wouldn't know the quality of that particular section until you'd uncovered it.
Reminds me of that stunning sculpture of a woman in a silk dress and this one Nazi-wannabe went all "Only a true white man could have made something like that!" only to be met with "The sculptor was an East-Asian woman. Lol. Idiot." This is the same level of absolute fucking quality on making rock look like smooth cloth. It's motherfucking art.
I think there actually was a connection, however oblique. 'Flouncy' meant an article of clothing with a lot of extra fabric that was worn bundled up - usually applied to skirts or overcoats, but it could apply to other things. That same kind of style was also equated to 'foppish' and 'dandy' from the 16th-18th century; all of which usually reflected on men overly concerned with their appearance or keeping up with fashion (Vis a vis, the video for 'Stand and Deliver' by Adam and the Ants)
I'd say that raises the difficulty of this particular work then. If it's "soft" then it's more likely to break or chip whenever they were adding the holes of the lace, especially towards the edge of the work where multiple holes would introduce multiple fragment points.
It's soft but not overly delicate. So it's easy to hand drill those holes in. It's why marble was the go-to material to make statues out of. Marble is soft in an easy to work with way.
Still pretty soft, relatively speaking. It's only a 3 on the Mohs hardness scale. That's around the same as copper. And only a little bit harder than wood.
Very true. Though as a general average, between the hardest types and the softest types it generally falls around a single point lower on the Mohs scale. Though I wouldn't be at all surprised if something like kamagong or ebony had a higher hardness.
Wood isn't measured on the Mohs scale, and are measured using the Janka hardness test. Because no woods regardless of their hardness do well with the Mohs scale because of how they are structured. So testing them using Mohs doesn't really give good indications of their hardness levels.
To be fair, I'd rather sleep on the cold wet floor than using his pillows. Those smell of fascism and bigotry, as well as pedophillia endorsement. Ick.
I have not, however, both mediums are subtractive, one more forgiving than the other. I can always add marble back. The point I am trying to make here is that you can do anything if you trust and follow the process. All these downvoters are morons who will never realize their own potential.
Otomasoteraph
That's craftmanship
udmurt
This is what women of the west fought and died for /s
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GRizz46
Shut it, clanker.
ClessAurion
Bruh, that is LITERALLY my dayjob (digitally), and the fact these guys did that shit WITHOUT the tools I use like Ctrl+z (Undo) is just fucking baffling.
zufallszahlen
straha242
The Abduction of Proserpina by Bernini, finished 1622. On display in Galleria Borghese, Rome if you want to see it yourself.
Hoiloidl
Saw it in person in 2019, it truly took my breath away.
IMustGrowUpReally
All well and good, but have you tried blowing your nose with it?
AVaguelyFamiliarUsername
Yeah... they kicked me out of the museum and I am now banned from the premises.
Nuuttiparoni
Read the instructions, man. It's for mind blowing, not nose blowing.
mushuporky
Or blowing your sack...
sowhat4
Umph! I'll bet it's not very absorbent or easy to fold.
Daanco
Pfff, try ironing it.
DOcelot1
Pales in comparison to il Disinganno.

Francesco Queirolo’s Il Disinganno (The Release from Deception) took approximately seven years to complete, created between roughly 1752 and 1759. Carved from a single block of marble in Naples, Italy, the masterpiece is famous for its impossibly delicate net, which was finished by the artist himself without assistants due to its extreme fragility.
chaylar
first time i saw this i actually cried.
PandaStonetree
I'd LOVE to get into marble sculpting. Will never be this great, but it would be a goal and dedication.
bemibet
I always took handkerchiefs for granite before.
beemarr
Oh, you.
Bammit
Just don't do nose blowing with it
chichiFregiLover
Type17
Marble is a great stone to work with, if you're skilled: https://www.heritage.nf.ca/articles/society/veiled-virgin.php
ThisIsMyUsernameThereAreManyLikeIt
It's mindboggling work. Marbleous.
pitje
I've heard..... that the ENTIRE statue is made of marble! 🫢
viila
Not even the most mindblowing marble cloth. See this:
DimwitF
"That sculpture is an act of worship before heaven, and it shows."
viila
Detail.
ImmaCatImmaSexyCat
Nah. This one is prettier but the neckerchief is WAY harder. So many bumps and holes, as well as making it thin? Nah, that shit requires so much more patience and care. This piece won't shatter if the artist slips.
AHornyRhino
not cloth but this net always blows my sack back when i see it
DrewK98
The net, yeah, but also the leg behind it, having to work through those small holes.
Scezumin
incredible example... and choice of words commenting on it
nefroye
Nah - IMO not even close. The other has many more raised parts and holes. Lace is much harder to produce that flowing cloth. This one is great artistically, but IMO the lace is much more mind-blowing from the standpoint of how much work and skill it took.
judyblue
Right. The veil is an illusion. Looks amazing, but it's still a solid piece of marble with the surface carved to look like it's a thin piece of gauze. The lace requires carving out paper thin sections of rock - and you wouldn't know the quality of that particular section until you'd uncovered it.
chevymonster
They can't be compared IMO. The veil is a different type of carving from the lace.
DrSharkbite
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mygodhasabiggerdick
Me, when she wants me to hurry up and finish.
bitemark
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MayMayz4DayzYo
Worf approves this message.
whapowpow
MayMayz4DayzYo
DO YOU SEEK GLORY?!
ILoveThiPlatform
What is the sculpture called?
MeisterKleister
Charles de Sainte-Maure statue https://academiaaesthetics.com/gallery/charles-de-sainte-maure-statue/
ILoveThiPlatform
Gracias
chichiFregiLover
mad
WarlockSniper
Reminds me of that stunning sculpture of a woman in a silk dress and this one Nazi-wannabe went all "Only a true white man could have made something like that!" only to be met with "The sculptor was an East-Asian woman. Lol. Idiot."
This is the same level of absolute fucking quality on making rock look like smooth cloth. It's motherfucking art.
beemarr
WarlockSniper
Yay, thank you. I couldn't find that for some reason
MayMayz4DayzYo
Um, that’s a neckerchief.
gronzilla
neckkercheif*
majortool
Yah, idiot.
WillemHellfire
Someone is taking cues from that dick...in a neckerchief.
TheHillsHaveNostrils
Not everyone reads 19th century literature you know. Heck, not everyone reads, period.
MayMayz4DayzYo
Haha. Too true, friend. I know it’s not a HANDkerchief cos it’s wrapped around his NECK.
gronzilla
Are you seriously defending your right to ignorance from... a pun?
TheHillsHaveNostrils
What? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neckerchief
gronzilla
Ew, I prefer German linguistics w.r.t. etymology. I did *not* see that coming. But, I stand corrected!
ThreeDimesDown
Why hello fellow pedant! You beat me to it.
CouldntCakeLess
Eiladar
Or possibly a flouncy cravat.
knotwingknot
why does this sound so offensive lol
ThatLoserTheFourth
I am 100% convinced it's an old timey euphamism for gay, nothing anyone can say can change my mind
Eiladar
I think there actually was a connection, however oblique. 'Flouncy' meant an article of clothing with a lot of extra fabric that was worn bundled up - usually applied to skirts or overcoats, but it could apply to other things. That same kind of style was also equated to 'foppish' and 'dandy' from the 16th-18th century; all of which usually reflected on men overly concerned with their appearance or keeping up with fashion (Vis a vis, the video for 'Stand and Deliver' by Adam and the Ants)
Targe0
Marble is a fairly soft stone, so with the right tools in a skilled hand, things like this are possible.
Snooj
They are still hard to do, though. And one little fuckup and it's on to the next attempt. Or improvise a smaller kerchief.
OrionJC
I'd say that raises the difficulty of this particular work then. If it's "soft" then it's more likely to break or chip whenever they were adding the holes of the lace, especially towards the edge of the work where multiple holes would introduce multiple fragment points.
Targe0
It's soft but not overly delicate.
So it's easy to hand drill those holes in.
It's why marble was the go-to material to make statues out of.
Marble is soft in an easy to work with way.
Hekatombe
Well... It is not that soft
Targe0
Soft as far as stones go that have a smooth texture.
It's not Pumice or Sandstone after all.
sf111
Always that one guy that takes pillow fights way too seriously.
VegaJuniper
It's not often you can watch an idea of a prank take shape.
MeisterKleister
Pillow fight!
beemarr
Still pretty soft, relatively speaking. It's only a 3 on the Mohs hardness scale. That's around the same as copper. And only a little bit harder than wood.
Targe0
Depending on the wood.
Australian Buloke is energy different league to say Balsa wood.
beemarr
Very true. Though as a general average, between the hardest types and the softest types it generally falls around a single point lower on the Mohs scale. Though I wouldn't be at all surprised if something like kamagong or ebony had a higher hardness.
Targe0
Wood isn't measured on the Mohs scale, and are measured using the Janka hardness test.
Because no woods regardless of their hardness do well with the Mohs scale because of how they are structured. So testing them using Mohs doesn't really give good indications of their hardness levels.
mrbadxampl
still rather sleep on that pillow than one of Mike Lindell's...
WarlockSniper
To be fair, I'd rather sleep on the cold wet floor than using his pillows.
Those smell of fascism and bigotry, as well as pedophillia endorsement.
Ick.
Targe0
Just going to hide all the Ancient Greek Marble statues carved of their Fascist leaders who enjoyed the company of young boys.
WarlockSniper
Looks like you fail to understand nuance.
mrbadxampl
I admit it's a slightly slanted comparison
McFrazzlestache
It's really not seeing as how it's over 200 years old and completely reproduceable. Try it out. You might like the results.
McFrazzlestache
Ok. Bunch of downvoting dorks who automatically discount their own abilities. I know what I'm capable of. Do you?
GRizz46
Could you do that and if you can, please show your work.
McFrazzlestache
I am a professional artist. Feel free to browse my profile.
GRizz46
But have you carved a pumpkin out of marble?
McFrazzlestache
I have not, however, both mediums are subtractive, one more forgiving than the other. I can always add marble back. The point I am trying to make here is that you can do anything if you trust and follow the process. All these downvoters are morons who will never realize their own potential.
Snooj
I'm capable of downvoting.
McFrazzlestache
Apparently, solely capable, at that.
Snooj
I am also capable of upvoting.
McFrazzlestache
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