Saw a recent comparison with some colonizer saying his family had been here for 4 generations! And the graphic compared that with lawn grass that went 4" deep and showed native plants like this to show how indigenous peoples roots go soooo much deeper than that.
Kinda disingenuous. Native plants are better for many reasons, but this is only why you don't have to water *MOST* native plants, it doesn't cover them all under all circumstances. The idea that no native plant anywhere could ever be benefited by a watering just isn't accurate.
Exactly. All of the environmental factors that contribute to what makes the native plants thrive. They still get the water they need in their native regions.
Thats another reason why many people are starting to do No Till gardening. On top of erosion control by leaving dead roots your leaving food for worms to turn into castings and nutrients for the new plants.
US top soil ~100 years ago could get upwards of 15 feet deep of mixed soil & native root structures. US top soil today is on average 5-10 inches and of extreme concern.
I've been a landcare service provider for over 20 years. Installed and managed dozens of meadows. Studied plant ecology etc. with other practitioners with more experience than me. This is quite oversimplified. Yes, generally native plants growing in conditions to which they are adapted won't need supplemental watering after they are established, but will often need help (water) to get started. And, not all plants have roots that deep. And deep roots' main purpose may not be absorbing water.
Also why you don't make living grass roofs out of them. Would have looked cool, but no... So we are going with the short meadow grass and flowers thing.
Not quite accurate. Long root systems are more indicative of the life cycle of the plant (e.g. annual vs perennial) than they are of whether or not the plant is invasive to wherever this image is supposed to be from.
Professional horticulturalist here. Native plants still need water. Those are buffalo and bluegrass specimens, they are prairie grasses, they have big roots. Native plants are by design made for their environment, not just their roots and watering resource consumption.
My great grandma as a teen just before her parents abandoned their North Dakota farm and relocated to Oregon due to the Dust Bowl. Starting over from scratch. Their car was like the Clampetts, and they left their cattle and horses behind as well.
This is a fave of her parents. My great great grandma was named Clementine. <3 I even love the damage to the photo. There's so much character and story here.
Not many digitized, but my grandparents have an enormous family photos collection dating back a few generations that i can't wait to digitally archive. This was her as a toddler "hollering so as to make the gobblers, gobble."
Well, until you have fucked enough with the natural water ways, drained the swamp and changed the climate. Then suddenly watering native plants comes into the picture.
This is a really bizarre graphic. It should focus on keeping soil alive instead of nuking it with pesticides, herbicides, and fertilizer. Living soil, regenerative farming, holds a hell of a lot more water
There's a neat book called Beaverland that talks a little about how different our waterways were before we hunted/trapped beavers down to their current population.
Well yes, but still no. Plenty of plants have been selectively bred to the point they have almost no similarity left to the original plant that was definitely native to somewhere. Others, like invasive weeds, have evolved in their new environments to be quite different from the original plant that was also definitely native to somewhere.
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phylax1
Chrysopogon zizanioides...?
Niagaran
Saw a recent comparison with some colonizer saying his family had been here for 4 generations! And the graphic compared that with lawn grass that went 4" deep and showed native plants like this to show how indigenous peoples roots go soooo much deeper than that.
duktayp
Great, now I have to pee
Escapist83
Imgur being Imgur. Completely innocuous joke being downvoted en masse because of Monkey-See, Monkey-Do mentality.
CitrusyGarlic
Kinda disingenuous. Native plants are better for many reasons, but this is only why you don't have to water *MOST* native plants, it doesn't cover them all under all circumstances. The idea that no native plant anywhere could ever be benefited by a watering just isn't accurate.
inthenameofthemoooon
Exactly. All of the environmental factors that contribute to what makes the native plants thrive. They still get the water they need in their native regions.
Onlyhereforthelaughs
Don't forget erosion control. Dirt doesn't flow so easily when it's bound like that.
TheOneAndOnlyButtStabber
Thats another reason why many people are starting to do No Till gardening. On top of erosion control by leaving dead roots your leaving food for worms to turn into castings and nutrients for the new plants.
fallenpenguin82
Can someone post a video of this at work?
DeadWhiteMale
Not only that, but they're sequestering carbon. They're carbon sinks.
Habtor
Won't grow like that here unless they are really good at going through hard packed clay.
OneBabyOneHamburgerBun
US top soil ~100 years ago could get upwards of 15 feet deep of mixed soil & native root structures. US top soil today is on average 5-10 inches and of extreme concern.
hwatL4bloopy
Native to where?
pixelsauras
I've been a landcare service provider for over 20 years. Installed and managed dozens of meadows. Studied plant ecology etc. with other practitioners with more experience than me. This is quite oversimplified. Yes, generally native plants growing in conditions to which they are adapted won't need supplemental watering after they are established, but will often need help (water) to get started. And, not all plants have roots that deep. And deep roots' main purpose may not be absorbing water.
pixelsauras
Re. the last point, see: https://prairieecologist.com/2019/09/17/a-deep-rooted-prairie-myth/
HandicappedShoes
"It's what plants crave!"
MyusernameisLostOne
interesting, so I don't need to water them like my rocks?
yesyoucancancan
Well, obviously those things have to go. Unsightly.
KleptoKea
Native to which country?
dixxienormus
I'll let Gilgamesh and Noah know about this theory of flood control.
ArandomDane
Also why you don't make living grass roofs out of them. Would have looked cool, but no... So we are going with the short meadow grass and flowers thing.
KodiakDDS
Yuss
hoopyhoop
Yeah, but rain follows the plough.
eadanke
https://www.usbg.gov/visit/exhibits/exposed-secret-life-roots
RhinoNaut
Chernozem soil, baby
QuartzPoker
Not quite accurate. Long root systems are more indicative of the life cycle of the plant (e.g. annual vs perennial) than they are of whether or not the plant is invasive to wherever this image is supposed to be from.
pomax
Unfortunately, it's also why you don't have to water invasive species.
mrsdowneyjr
I recently heard that native prairie grass has 8 foot roots. I want to replant my yard now
Muffinburgler
They did, and that's why the dust bowl happened. We replaced those plants with corn and wheat, shallow rooted plants that did nothing.
mrsdowneyjr
I mean I want to replace my fescue or whatever and eastern grasses with native
twatburglar
Professional horticulturalist here. Native plants still need water. Those are buffalo and bluegrass specimens, they are prairie grasses, they have big roots. Native plants are by design made for their environment, not just their roots and watering resource consumption.
OhIfIMust
:cries in Dust Bowl:
elevengoldfish
My great grandma as a teen just before her parents abandoned their North Dakota farm and relocated to Oregon due to the Dust Bowl. Starting over from scratch. Their car was like the Clampetts, and they left their cattle and horses behind as well.
dippadowchowchow
This is so cool! How many pics do you have of her life?
elevengoldfish
This is a fave of her parents. My great great grandma was named Clementine. <3 I even love the damage to the photo. There's so much character and story here.
elevengoldfish
Not many digitized, but my grandparents have an enormous family photos collection dating back a few generations that i can't wait to digitally archive. This was her as a toddler "hollering so as to make the gobblers, gobble."
elvem
Well, until you have fucked enough with the natural water ways, drained the swamp and changed the climate. Then suddenly watering native plants comes into the picture.
CongratsYouAreHereNow
This is a really bizarre graphic. It should focus on keeping soil alive instead of nuking it with pesticides, herbicides, and fertilizer. Living soil, regenerative farming, holds a hell of a lot more water
TooDrunkTooSail
There's a neat book called Beaverland that talks a little about how different our waterways were before we hunted/trapped beavers down to their current population.
ShimmerinStrider
Water? Like out tha toilet?
seesgetdegrees
Oh wow, splendid, top comment!
ScaredSpitless
I could really go for a Starbucks
ShimmerinStrider
Concentrate on shitposts man. We all could go for a handie right now.
AtaSeaParks
I'm pretty sure this guy, Not Sure, is the smartest man alive, and he's gonna fix all our prolems, in one weeeeek.
hiyesthisissatan
It doesn't have electrolytes!
R100GSPD
Cows don't crave it!
SpoilsburyToastMan
It's what plants crave.
TheUnstoppableWampas
IGotLordVoldemortsNose
It's got what plants crave
UncleGhanseau
Came for this, got it.
tokerator
Welcome to Costco. +1
TimmyTosser
I went to law school there. Couldn’t believe it myself. My dad was an alumnus. Pulled some strings…
TheMemeRecycler
I love you
OldFriendForDinner
apLundell
Native to where?
kodiak931155
Just native bro. All plants that are native have those roots. Move em and they dont.
Stop asking so many question and just upvote already
ProphetofEntropy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Plains
rainehdaze
all i can assume from this image is that plants that need watering must have come from space
GigiDundas
Or wetland environments like a swamp.
beeeeeeerkaaaaa
Or the tropics
timtams
good question - and I was going to say, well, all plants are native to somewhere right?
GigiDundas
Well yes, but still no. Plenty of plants have been selectively bred to the point they have almost no similarity left to the original plant that was definitely native to somewhere. Others, like invasive weeds, have evolved in their new environments to be quite different from the original plant that was also definitely native to somewhere.
scarabrae
What are folks using to generate this style of caption+pic combo?
Hurro
BlueBeam
spamjam
You can do it in PowerPoint or the open equivalent
Onlyhereforthelaughs
I usually use my image editor.
ilhares
I use MS Paint. It's easy to throw a white box atop an image.
BrokenMeat
Computers
GuysJustWannaFish
RichardHardley
hAy-I. i'll see myself out.
laserfrog
paint
RoyWolfe
To anyone using MS paint, I can cordially recommend paint.net -- it's basically a drop-in replacement that adds some features I dearly miss in paint (mostly: layers), without making it so complex that it's impossible to use. Is also free.
Escapist83
Paint?
TinyVanLife
No, I’m pretty sure they do it on the computer.
RhymingEverything
Good question, you see a lot of this type of thing
ClarkLWilliamson
Loose morals
itstheendoftheworldasweknowitandifeelfine
*morels
JadeNB1729
Rarely is the question asked, is our morals loose enough?