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DoublevBomb
"I'm sure they died for a good cause." - probably no one
jtuttle821325
It’s not, “Happy Memorial Day “. Memorial Day, is a day of remembrance for those who didn’t come home.
Opswain
BlindYokai
“I like people that weren’t captured”, happy Memorial Day indeed
NonRacialPanda
"And all the wounds that are ever gonna scar me for all the ghosts that are never gonna..."
fencer1964
Not To disparage those left behind, but… Is it just me, or does this reek of virtue signaling? Who’s taking these carefully staged pictures?
SmugandFurry
How do you know they're carefully staged?
CureForHomoSapiens
'THIS is why you don’t say “Happy Memorial Day.” it’s a solemn day to remember our country’s bravest sons and daughters.' by @alllthethings
GeneralWho
https://terminallance.com/2013/05/28/terminal-lance-unexpected-guest-ii-memorial-day/
Svartlebee
What did they die for? Who was invading the US at the time of their death exactly?
VelvetWarhol
TheTimesTheyAreAChangin
Agreed. Stop sending us to war!
PoorSucker
terrablesepller
it’s a terrible day for rain
ChrisHemsworthsBulge
Like tears in rain.
OmnesMundiLardum
It's been raining all weekend.
Svartlebee
Probably not a good pic to use as his character was literally bred for war and combat and had no qualms about killing, even innocents.
aquameanie
These people died needlessly
PhilMcAvity
Unpopular opinion - To me the whole veteran glorification is a bit too obsessive in the US. Almost as if it is a religion.
Svartlebee
2/ it's not an unpopular opinion... outside the US. America fetishizes their military in a way that even military dictatorships wish for.
Svartlebee
It's scary, it also explains why America is so warlike when they venerate any soldier regardless of whatever fucked up shit they did.
SmugandFurry
They venerate the idea, not the veterans.
1coyote
For me Memorial Day is a sad day. It’s not to celebrate, it’s to remember ALL those that gave their life!
TheDoktorWillSeeYouNow
The people who start wars are never the ones who feel the cost of them. Remember that today. 1/
SS2000Ali
Old men, send the young one to die...??
TheDoktorWillSeeYouNow
/ your enemy is not the man on the other side of the battlefield, it's the man who sent you there. /end
NKato
At least the dumbfuck in the White House hasn't gotten us into a new war yet...but the jury is still out on that.
oilassedfiddler
https://supportourtroops.org/care-packages send a care package to a soilder
TheDoktorWillSeeYouNow
Thanks man
Gantzz321
stop voting for war machine politicians and you won't need to say good bye to you loved ones, you might also loose the world terrorist title
disagreeable
You don’t take photographs of people mourning, you fucking savages.
oilassedfiddler
folk die for there country and there are families now without a father, you need to see this
disagreeable
I disagree. I know what happens when someone dies. There are many other ways to convey the significance of the situation.
Gaverus
I could be wrong but it looks like they are posing for this
disagreeable
You might be right
Ilovestormswolvesbees
dreadpiratekhan
timmy26
Lock it in a box and don’t acknowledge it like the rest of us
ComoSeIguana
mystery1airship
Fuck war
oilassedfiddler
https://supportourtroops.org/care-packages support a soilder
elgrapadura
marvinister
That’s what happens when you voluntarily go to wars
oilassedfiddler
https://supportourtroops.org/care-packages send a care package to a soilder edgy man
SmugandFurry
Don't cut yourself on that edge, pal.
wadatahmydamie
If not for the electoral college, these cemeteries would be a lot emptier.
ChallengerDeep
"When I was younger,they said if I voted for Goldwater I'd get sent to Vietnam.I voted for Goldwater and sure enough, I got sent to Vietnam"
Ksmommy3
This breaks my heart. My husband was USMC and I was scared to death every time he was deployed. I my heart bleeds for these women. ?
Poopywaterengineer
We routinely talk about how our men and women in uniform are our best and brightest and them send them off to die or refuse to take 1/2
Poopywaterengineer
2/2 care of them when there service is over. It is an absolute shame.
oilassedfiddler
https://supportourtroops.org/care-packages send a care package to a soilder
privacylost
My care package was part of my tax money being spent. For every tax dollar taken, 24 cents go to “defense”.
privacylost
And only 4.8 of those 24 cents go to the troops. Get that changed.
privacylost
https://www.nationalpriorities.org/analysis/2019/tax-day-2019/where-your-tax-dollar-was-spent-2018/
Poopywaterengineer
I would upvote this comment alone to the fp
joelataupe
None of these people die to defend your country. They were killed while invading others.
dollars78
Spend a year in Afghanistan and then read your comment to see why you are an ass.
Svartlebee
And what about Iraq?
chrisclarins
As a German I can tell. Doing the dirty job for particular interests is for no good. Still I respect the individual suffering.
Wilhod
As an Finn I can't understand this "war veteran" hype in the US. Here we actually defended our country from the russians.
abacab87
Like when we invaded Europe, North Africa, and the South Pacific.
wadatahmydamie
oilassedfiddler
your edgy guy
DonaldJTrump
OrRo77
Thing is, you don't sign up knowing where and when you'll serve. Could be in your own state or another country.
buttonguy3
"None of these firefighters died in a fire. They died invading others homes." That's pretty much how you sound.
Svartlebee
2/ still allied to an obviously hostile power (hint: it begins with o and ends with il).
Svartlebee
Iraq had no part in the 9/11 attacks and America is still allied to Saudi Arabia who armed and backed the men behind it. Why is America
likeumreal
No that isn't the correct. Firefighters defend lives. Sadly we use soldiers' lives to guarantee cheaper oil, shipping lanes, etc. for us.
buttonguy3
Lemme guess, just out of high school or starting college?
oilassedfiddler
what I was thinking
likeumreal
No, lots of life experiences and well aware that condescending patriots like you usually don't know how to counter that argument.
buttonguy3
It's not an argument. It's a baseless accusation not founded on anything but what you see at face value.
Svartlebee
So, who did these soldiers die to exactly? Who was attacking America? Because it certainly wasn't Iraq.
buttonguy3
That entire region was letting people build the means to attack us, so in came the troops to make damn sure it didnt happen again.
likeumreal
(@buttonguy3 may not be answering your actual question anytime soon)
gmreml132
Thank you for keeping our gas prices so low... could be lower though.
Eskim0J0e
buttonguy3
You can always live without using gas.
sambaah05
Get your point, but there aren't monthly ISIS attacks anymore because ISIS got bored and moved onto something else. Soldiers died for that.
Svartlebee
Isis only exists because America destabilised the region and caused a fuck ton of resentment.
Mclovin1524
You are a fool my friend.
sambaah05
Fighting for oil or power is bad. Fighting terrorism is good. Not sure what's wrong with that statement.
gmreml132
When were there ever monthly ISIS attacks? When was it ever about protecting people and not interests?
sambaah05
I conceded military action isn't always good. Especially when it's for oil or power. But I can at least admit sometimes it is needed.
sambaah05
2017-2018. I watch the news daily, apparently not everyone else does. Check wiki page for ISIS attacks.
Blockedbutimback
Yeah keyboard warrior, go tell a Vet that.
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Blockedbutimback
A lot of anger in that post, a Vet sleep with your old lady or something
Svartlebee
And how does that change whether US troops are used as strategic tools to ensure the US remains global dominant power? The myth that US
Svartlebee
2/ troops are heroically fighting for freedom everyday is a lie that needs to stop.
gmreml132
The country doesn’t even support its own vets. You think I’m scared of some dumbass that goes to fight without even knowing why?
gmreml132
Fuckin high school drop outs
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Svartlebee
2/ people behind the attacks? Or are you just trying to find an excuse for supporting an unjust war?
Svartlebee
Like a large portion of soldiers, you mean. Why exactly did those American troops die in Iraq when it was Saudi Arabia who backed the
Blockedbutimback
Lol, I'm sure your not afraid behind your computer hero, but find a Vet and let them know how you feel ?
trashthecan
HatinS8N
This doesn’t look happy
MatrimsCauffin
Can’t tell if the symbolism here is dark or just right
Rehjee
If its dark it is probably right.
HatinS8N
I feel like I could help these ladies pick up the pieces. If you know what I mean. No worries about husband coming home. Oh.That sounds dark
scottMFcrane
Ironic you show a picture of a veteran getting shot.
hdjdjdhdhjdjdjdjdhi9
Who took the pictures?
tjperez371911
What makes it more sad is if you look at the empty square on the blanket. That was probably supposed to be a pic of dad and baby.
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Buckman1988
Some people can’t make it to the grave site because it’s far from them. Posting might be somewhere they can visit mentally. 1/2
Buckman1988
Don’t judge other’s actions too quickly. You don’t have the full story and you aren’t in their shoes.
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brisca66
It looks like a picture is there already. A beach scene and the T-shirt is covering the people in the photograph.
NJAFO
Happy really doesnt fit this day.
GeneralWho
https://terminallance.com/2013/05/28/terminal-lance-unexpected-guest-ii-memorial-day/
TheBoyScout
I dunno. Having lost friends, and knowing them, they’d probably be telling me “drink more ya pussy!” And I choose to smile at that.
ooMikeAoo
Trump in 2019 wished “happy Memorial Day” to US service members aboard an American ship docked in Japan. https://vote.gov/ Register to vote
martiniolives2
He did it this year, too. Clearly, he is a fool. Vote 2020.
mrwthisusernameisavailble
I read that it is most appropriate to tell folks to have a "meaningful day" whatever that is for them.
breothskin
Televise every coffin, every body bag, every funeral. All of it. Americans don’t understand the cost of war.
reaper8891
--ONLY-- SHOW IT IN AMERICA. The rest of the world is tired of watching your people march to death then spend months being sad. 1/
reaper8891
/2 i highly doubt americans hear about the rest of the worlds problems. They dont care. But everyones gotta hear about murican loss.
jbilly90
I do i live with my vet every damn day. Years of screaming in the middle in the night. PTSD fucking sucks. Stop generalizing by nation
OptimismBias
Some of us do.
TapToRetry
I'm pretty sure we do. What exactly would you like us to do about it?
Kopar
That's true, but it can always create a destructive pacifism that would betray actual fights worth having. I'm for showing all of them, but
Kopar
2) context and vigorous discussion is always needed to vet, no pun intended, the wars we wage to test their purpose and necessity. All wars
Kopar
3) are unfortunate and destructive, but that does NOT mean there aren't wars WORTH fighting.
ThisNeedsMoreBoobs
What you are INCREDIBLY MISSING is that many Americans, like me, understand the cost of NECESSARY WAR vs UNNECESSARY, BS WAR.
breothskin
Define your terms.
ThisNeedsMoreBoobs
USA military is 100% voluntary. There has been no draft, no requirement for over 40 years. THAT tells you the importance of "wars" since...
ThisNeedsMoreBoobs
I support soldiers who enlist for legit wars. Many living today enlisted by CHOICE, for a PAID JOB, to support FINANCIAL AGGRESSION.
PunishMentor
Televise the Covid deaths while you're at it. Way more than 9/11, Iraq, Afghanistan, and Vietnam combined.
ThrownClub
What about the cost of COVID? 100,000 vs 7,000 in 19 years.
Grankotte
Most Covid deaths are still ppl that where near death in the first place. Also over 1milion dead in Iraq alone.
Svartlebee
Yeah, civlians.
preaction
We haven't even understood the cost of COVID-19... How will we understand wars half-way around the globe?
Gantzz321
stop voting for war machine politicians and you won't need to say good bye to you loved ones, you might also loose the world terrorist title
idrinkcheapbeer
Televise every drug overdose, televise every suicide, televise every vet struggling to get and keep a job.
shlogan
Actually, reporting on suicides increases suicides. It's called the Werther Effect.
DogmeatIsAGoodDog
When the Joker gave his “all part of the plan” speech to Harvey, it was true.
MrOne2
"But we're winning on the fox everything news"
END3RW1GGIN
No one not in war understands the cost of war. This has ever been the problem.
cyllan
No one would watch. Most of the time people know what they want to know
PunnyTiger
I feel that wars should take place in an arena, and only the people pushing for war should be involved. just top brass and CICs.
skruttet
I think the problem is that Americans don't understand the profits of war, and that those profits will end up in already very rich pockets.
Extremefear
We have people who are pro-military, but would never send their own family members into war.
Northernwest
We got sick of watching men go to the moon after a few trips. We know lots of people die in war but as a society we are sadly OK with this.
hattbillies3
Maybe they do, they just don’t think they’ll have to pay it and therefore don’t care
CharlesPerrault1987
They never will. We never will. No words can convey the loss or the sorrow. War is war. It is horrid and should be avoided at all costs.
Ermahgerdness
Doesn’t it usually make the news now when soldiers die?
CityYeti
Our politicians don't understand the cost of war. We pump their budget full so much, we barely give any to those coming home
ThisNeedsMoreBoobs
There is a HUGE FUCKING DIFFERENCE between those who HAD to go to war and the IMBECILES who signed up for it.
eddbrowne
If enough don't sign up, then you get drafted.
ThisNeedsMoreBoobs
I know. It's true. You are right. My goal is not anti-soldier. Not at all. it's anti-war-for-politician-profit-or-unnecessary-sake.
RecurringNightmare
whut? that is already done, mile-long car parades behind every hearse, gun salutes, jets flying overhead, flag folding, all this shit is >
RecurringNightmare
> part of the big propaganda machine telling young guys how awesome it is to 'serve your country' (lol) and die a 'hero', so they get many >
RecurringNightmare
> new recruits to send into senseless wars while the weapons industry keeps earning billions of dollars...its the glorification that has to>
RecurringNightmare
>stop...show the surviving vets who have lost bodyparts, maybe that woudl help...<<<
Ambeam
Dead soldiers are a fraction of the cost of war. Burned towns, starvation, disease, dead children... the cost of war is borne by civilians.
IReapatHighNoon
We understand. Politicians and companies who manufacture weapons dont. They only see profit.
oilassedfiddler
https://supportourtroops.org/care-packages support your local soilder
Muzzledreaper
I think it's the american government that don't understand. The vast majority of Americans I meet are 100% against and involvement.
DeltaLaw
I'd say desensitization may be more the problem. But who knows
ImNotActuallyEvilAfterAll
Perhaps the people who decide who where and when to fight should understand first.
Ornado
We understand, but we just don't care.
SaItyEuropean
the cost of anything really
artisviolent
But that would be unpatriotic. The brass and command can't have people feeling for soldiers
pvtwestbrook86
Thats not an exclusively American problem.
nonamejanie
Thank you
HipHopmadeMEdoit2
Very true. I think in this case they're speaking about Americans because of the pic.
TsubakiTragic
Aussie... very true.
oilassedfiddler
agreed
gregg8888
The US military casualties have consistently gone done with each conflict. The US VALUES it’s military members!
leroy666
*down*
breothskin
Oh really? ask anyone who’s had to fight the VA on anything.
oilassedfiddler
says a person that probably never served
ThisNeedsMoreBoobs
You think "service" to country is only military your fucking twit?
oilassedfiddler
its the ultimate form of service to your country but not the only one
ThisNeedsMoreBoobs
I disagree. I don't think it's "ultimate" UNLESS it is required. My family were drafted... Though, I don't have an "ultimate" replacement ?
ZachariasWolfe
And that changes something about this?
oilassedfiddler
civilians dont know what military life is like actually serve then you can comment about war and military
MacNero00
No. In this country we can comment on whatever the fuck we please. Get outta here with that nonsense.
oilassedfiddler
then your comments are invalid because instead of just helping you would rather complain do you have nothing else to do then say Muh SpeaCh
likeumreal
We understand the cost but we treat it like we treat credit cards - only getting upset when the bill begins to affect our own lives.
PriestofThor
"America is at the mall. The Marines are at war"
GoodNewsCigaretteJuice
We don’t make the choice to send Pvt. Johnny to Iraq, though
breothskin
We elected people who did.
GoodNewsCigaretteJuice
I have never voted red in my life
insomniac24x7
THIS!!!!!
kinkyreggae
Everyone forgot 9-11 already and get pissed cuz a face mask.
korkyo67
Sadly, I know high schoolers that thought 911 was a meme
likeumreal
Covid-19 is not a brown skinned Muslim.
oilassedfiddler
disagreed if you never served you dont know anything and should just send a care package to a soilder
leroy666
Well “solider”. I assume you weren't a clerk, and probably not a “solider”
leroy666
Sorry. I can’t spell illiteracies. “soilder”.
AlexjoneswatchingTporn
Shut the fuck up you cunt that's the nicest way to say that
oilassedfiddler
https://supportourtroops.org/care-packages
JonathanMidwatch
Got a CP of 300 knit booties in the middle of Paktia. CPs are meant for the folks at home to feel better about the things that are1/2
breothskin
I am not a US military veteran. I chose to serve my fellow countrymen in other ways. What makes one service greater than another? Propaganda
oilassedfiddler
didnt say one was above the other
JonathanMidwatch
Hey Private, if you could do those of us who’ve done our time a favor & keep your ideas to yourself, that’d be great.
oilassedfiddler
I bet you were a pog and dont even have a combat badge
JonathanMidwatch
One, it’s a medal in the Navy, because we aren’t really supposed to see groundwork. We typically float along. As EOD though, yeah,1/
likeumreal
So, you served?
oilassedfiddler
graduated OSUT as an 11c from fort Benning last year
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TheArtistFormerlyKnownAsTheBabyAteMyDingo
But have you actually seen action? If not, don't act like it!
likeumreal
I hope our government puts you In harm's way only when it is truly to defend our safety.
TheDayTheBrainStoodStill
An excellent way to put it. I suppose the warmongering politicians are the credit card companies in this metaphor...
Svartlebee
"Warmongering politicians" the voting American public supports every war declaration by default.
TheDayTheBrainStoodStill
THEORETICALLY it should be the job of a country's leaders to educate the public-not to exploit the angry mob to more easily start more wars.
Someshithead241
They are the people who own and use the card. Soldiers are the credit. This is the bill
dreadlordkaplan
In college I posted in my FB feed a bio page every time one of our solders died. It was hard to keep up. People did not want to see it.
cattywumpus
at work we fly the flag at half-mast. It's been years since we went a full week all the way up.
dreadlordkaplan
I did it for a year and it only made me feel like shit looking back. If I lost a son or daughter would I want some punk kid posting about it
Muzzledreaper
Yea, to be honest you probably just pissed people off more than anything. Good intention that just came across bad.
BecauseImboredThatsWhy
In Fire fighter academy we read a list of every Fire fighter that died and how they died every morning. Really impressed the importance of
BecauseImboredThatsWhy
Training
newsguycraigevans
But we build such nice memorials. Seriously though, pisses me off to see new memorials knowing vets aren't getting adequate care.
Svartlebee
American hero worship of soldiers allows soldiers to be msitreated at home due to being "heroes" they can endure whatever shit is thrown at
Svartlebee
2/ thrown at them.
oilassedfiddler
send a soilder a care package or your argument is invalid
ZachariasWolfe
No. We pay taxes for a reason. When they aren't used the way they should be, we shouldn't have to pay extra.
Chinavirus
Same argument for teachers pay, postal workers pay, etc.
oilassedfiddler
you dont actually care then, you want to push an agenda on others rather then helping a soilder good job buddy your a real cool guy
Svartlebee
"I sent a some socks and a bar of chocolate, that really helps with the suicide of returning vets". Fuck off.
AngryPanda66
I don't want a fuckin box mailed to me with beef jerky and wet wipes, i want my fellow vets to stop blowing their god damned brains out.
NoQuestionMarksInDeclarativeSentences
Sending a care package doesn't stop them from dying.
likeumreal
Right? Or the same patriots demanding we show respect at a ceremony call us traitors when we question politicians sendin them In harm's way.
djrubixcube
I’m a combat vet and my wife was told she looks like a terrorist for wearing a mask at the grocery store. Lucky for him I wasn’t with her.
PhilMcAvity
I fail to see what you being a veteran has to do with the rest of your story.
djrubixcube
It’s alright.
likeumreal
Have you seen that NRA spokesman talk on camera about how he didn't serve but wishes he did (now that it's too late for him to join)?
bloodtaker3
Have you seen the guy who said he always wanted a purple heart? Never served because bone spurs
djrubixcube
No, but I’ve met the type. “Thanks for your service, I would have joined but.. my job, my girl, my parents would have killed me” blah blah
oilassedfiddler
https://supportourtroops.org/care-packages
lupinic
You understand these are two completely separate arguments?
NoQuestionMarksInDeclarativeSentences
Or support them by not throwing them overseas as corporate security.
bloodtaker3
But OIL!
oilassedfiddler
if you were part of a minority muslim group that was being raided by terrorist groups you wouldnt say that
NoQuestionMarksInDeclarativeSentences
Depends on how many of my family members they accidentally blew up as 'acceptable losses'
youcancallmesusanifitmakesyouhappy
*politicians, the people dont get to decide. Never have, never will
Svartlebee
In a representative system, you get what you vote for.
SurlyTemple
This.
GCRust
More then just that - politicians need to start leading troops into battle again. Its easy to order people to die when your ass isn't hangin
rowingrowingrowing
And a universal service draft. You don't have to join the military, but you sure as shit better go serve someone.
Svartlebee
That's a fantastuc way to get a dictatorship.
GCRust
I'd see it more as a good incentive for our Presidents to stop getting us entangled in meaningless proxy wars if they had to go there too.
programmar27
They televise ~100k of your citizens dying over the last few months but half the country don’t give a fuck! They don’t understand anything
menshi
Yup, add up every American that’s died in a war al the way back to the Korean War and thats how many have died since Feb 29th (US 1st death)
PaladinWiggles
They televise a statistic. With the occasional short clip of the mass graves.
Jusmar
You mean the one for unclaimed corpses?
Internetlegend
No, a lot of the country actually gives a fuck, you're just hearing about the loud ignorant dumbass fucks
ACSwineburne
Pareto Principle; 80 percent of the effects made by 20 percent of the agents of cause so we wrongly assume a minority is larger than it is.
maugriman
Then you need more loud, educated smart people. Drown them out
Mentok
We're at home, man, I'm not getting anywhere near those lunatics.
maugriman
Oh yeah no dont do it now, thet those moronic fucks kill themselves off as much as possible first.
jonesin
https://imgur.com/4oc3Pv3
NoQuestionMarksInDeclarativeSentences
WW1 wasn't about freedom. Those men died for warmongers & egos.
Svartlebee
So, how was Vietnam or Iraq about defending the US?
jonesin
Memorial Day is NOT about the United States or her policies, It is about her fallen soldiers, sailors, airmen/women, and marines.
Svartlebee
2/ valid or justified. And if the day is for remembrance, perhaps people should remember all the fucked up things US soldiers have done as
Svartlebee
3/ well as the good. But no, every soldier is a hero and we must never challenge that view.
Svartlebee
Who carried out those policies. US Soldiers don't get a free pass just because they're dead and yes, we should examine if why they died was
jonesin
P.S. I am a Canadian veteran. I still hold respect for the fallen.
jonesin
As for those policies? You are unable for some reason to question them each and every other day of the year?
ThisNeedsMoreBoobs
I WILL be downvoted... Soldiers and military fams don't understand this was VOLUNTARY. Avoidable. VOLUNTARY STUPIDITY.
SirPuffins
So is being a firefighter, police officer, or any job that puts people's lives before your own. If people didn't voluntarily sign up for
SirPuffins
Those jobs then people would be forced into, like the draft. Now just imagine an America where all first responders are drafted to do the
SirPuffins
Job that no one wants to do. How well do you think it would turn out? So maybe don't hate on the people who volunteer to do jobs that you
SirPuffins
won't do yourself. Just appreciate that someone else is doing it, and you don't have to.
Svartlebee
Okay, how does that justify cases like Vietnam or Iraq?
SirPuffins
Here is the problem. A lot of people don't separate the people of the military, versus what the government has the military do. In any war
SirPuffins
What has a single, or group of any military personal ever done to start it one? We as the service members don't get to choose or say if we
Svartlebee
I frankly don't see why I should. "I was just following orders" should not be a shield.
redfish225
This should never be photographed.
OptimisticSchrodinger
Absolutely wrong
RatherRagged
Surely it further cements the horror and impacts of war.
voldemortified
That’s the point isn’t it?
FakeDaVinci
I'm 50/50 on it. These images are powerful and evoke strong emotions that change public opinions. Vietnam war photoraphs were crucial.
mrwthisusernameisavailble
As long as it's factual and subjects consent to it.
OneMoreDanceAndImLikeYEAHhowthehellamisupposedtoleave
I know some gold star wives that hire photographers for this. These are their family portraits, especially for the young ones.
MayaMacabre
Theres a difference between bringing attention to reality and to yourself. One is for awareness, the other for vanity.
diesel01
People are coming to a place they feel close to a departed loved one. Why do you object?
BewilderedOne
If those in the photo consent then yes. Although some of those seem staged so they seem to be doing it for personal reasons.
nitehaBeast
Fuck you! Staged?? How dare you?
BewilderedOne
How dare I say a photo is setup and taken by a professional photographer?? Take a Xanax
couchcaster
Hopefully they consented. But Americans need to know the real human cost of these "wars."
Ryang256
I disagree. This needs to be seen. These men aren't faceless grunts. They're sons, husbands, and fathers.
leroy666
I'd say it should always be photographed. Every memorial day. You need to be reminded what your oil costs.
Bossy22
And we should never say “Happy, Memorial Day“ It’s not a happy occasion
Bystandr
With permission in the proper context, I think some people can benefit from realizing what it costs families.
MasonHess
Actually, it NEEDS to be photographed. And I'm speaking as a veteran here. This needs to be seen so people know the price of war
ThatOneAwkwardPotatoGuy
On the one hand, yes. The reality of the loss and devestation war causes needs to be understood. But I think the commenter is referring to
ThatOneAwkwardPotatoGuy
The potential invasion of these people's privacy and grieving. That particular aspect probably shouldn't be publicized without consent
ThatOneAwkwardPotatoGuy
Though I'm pretty sure consent was given in the cases of these specific pictures
ehosca
Can't understand the purpose of the custom print blanket. Is this grieving a loss? Lying comfortably, posing for pictures?
HUGHgReaction
I disagree, it makes it real and puts it in our face. Maybe one day we will stand up to the war mongers and end this.
Lulabel73
If you mean photographing someone in a private moment without their knowledge, I agree but showing people the real cost of war is important.
generalbone
I mean this in all respect it's the first images I've seen depicting US military wives not cheating, and I'm less ignorant b/c of it.
Someshithead241
But then how would they get the sympathy points for Facebook?
wheresmybanana
Agreed, wholeheartedly.
SoraPonyBoyVersetti
Shouldn't be photographed for "likes" online, SHOULD be photographed so we know the price of these endless wars
SVTbuckeye
At least not photographed for insta likes and internet points
SadToSay
I'm going to accept it here because it's Memorial day and what we should be remembering.
TheWhiteJonJones
Having no military family this is the first time I've known what's up. I'm glad for it, yet damn. So many family members. War is too costly
twofoureight
Seriously, you might be bit sheltered if imgur is your introduction to people die in wars.
TheWhiteJonJones
First time to know on Memorial Day. Don't be pretentious or petty by feigning ignorance. You know what I meant.
oilassedfiddler
agreed
IbecomeaSchnitzelplease
This must be photographed. Whats the Matter? You live in denile? Got a Problem with seeing the people who pay for this shit?
AllyMo
I find it extremely soothing, as long as there has been consent to the photographing
cakeycakes
This is what photography as an art is about. Capturing a moment. Capturing an emotion. It doesn't always have to be a happy one.
cakeycakes
This is very real and it's important for all of us to have empathy and to feel it, imo. It makes us human.
SavageBlood
I agree so strongly. Some are posed, but those that aren't? Disgraceful.
TheTimesTheyAreAChangin
Completely disagree
TheTimesTheyAreAChangin
You won't know the suffering
Lysergian
In a country that is nearly constantly at war, it is a disservice to all of us to overlook the cost in real human terms. If allowed this
privacylost
U.S. chooses to be in wars. It’s not being invaded.
Lysergian
Which is why it's so important, the government chooses to be in wars, the people permit it.
Lysergian
So should always be photographed.
Mustakraken
Should never be photographed... Does the human cost of war cause you that much discomfort? Good. Look at it jackass.
Mustakraken
They signed up to protect their homes, their ideals, their country. They died for you, unasked, in wars they didn't choose and lately wars
Mustakraken
with no clear goals, ends, or justification. Might not be so many of them dead if more of us saw the price paid... You wonder sometimes
Mustakraken
Why so many veterans commit suicide, but we never talk about it or help them? Guess it was too hard to look eh?
sambaah05
I'm guessing there is consent, especially for the largest picture. This shouldn't be hidden just so some people aren't uncomfortable.
oilassedfiddler
agreed
chasingthevarmintaroundtheglobe
Not comfort, it is a respect thing.
Onlymadethistocommentoneday
If they consent, they are being respected.
DOWNVOTEALLEMOJIS
It’s not because it makes me uncomfortable. It’s because the scenario deserves some reverence and this doesn’t honor that.
sambaah05
I feel like that's their decision. Not yours.
twofoureight
Let’s be honest, if your taking blanket with a blown up picture out to graveyard with a photographer, it’s probably not to keep it personal.
thatsmyfetish69
Yes it should. YOU need to see it.
patismaximus
STFU
backrideup9
If someone photos me cry/grieving at a gravesite and I see it posted for the general public, there will be words. Then there will be worse.
TheAngriestBeardman
This. We hide the human cost of wars from the public. The widows, the disfigured, the traumatized, etc.
behning82
I working on my 2nd branch. If any s.o. wants 2 share that pvt moment that's their choice. But don't ever say ppl NEED to see that.
oilassedfiddler
disagreed folk need to see how good they have it especially in US
OriginalNameDoNotSteal
This should be a private moment. Someone will use this image for their own gains
lortieguy4
No we don't
oilassedfiddler
disagreed they be dying and you just want to neglect it
lortieguy4
They choose to be soldiers. Do you want to speak to the manager?
breothskin
It’s easy to let wars go on forever when you don’t see the actual impact. We should be televising every coffin every body bag coming back.
Svartlebee
America did once and it was called Black Hawk Down. America quickly exited and it all fell apart.
breothskin
Kinda my point.
bladderinfection
If she consents...absolutely should be shared. Her private moment, her decision.
ThisNeedsMoreBoobs
Idiot. There is NO PRIVACY in PUBLIC places. Why is that so hard to understand? The context DOESN'T MATTER.
ThisNeedsMoreBoobs
Yes, I seem harsh. But...One person's freedom (to publicly mourn) doesn't mean another person's captivity (to not photograph).
tcdriver
Your momma raised you right.....+1
ThisNeedsMoreBoobs
Fuck her consent. Step outside your home then you've consented. This is America.
Doc070
Her freedom. To make that choice!
ThisNeedsMoreBoobs
No, it's not. Public space
darkadept
I'm not American.. Are these cemeteries considered public spaces? Are there laws about photographing in public?
ThisNeedsMoreBoobs
In the USA once you are outside of your home then nearly everything is public. Freedom to DO means freedom to BE... photographed.
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darkadept
Oh I agree with the permission bit, absolutley. I just wasn't sure about american laws.
astraIvoid
It's more the intruding on someone's private moment with a loved one than the law of it. People should be face with the reality of wars, but
astraIvoid
These women really should have had their grief to themselves. It's uncertain whether these images were taken with their consent or not
bladderinfection
Federal government public space, no laws barring photography. I am just speaking on behalf of civilized society, IMHO.
OldManEli
Hahah BladderInfection speaks on behalf of hahahah
IAkuTheShapeShiftingMasterofDarkness
Public spaces tend to be that. Public. I wouldn't be speaking on behalf of an entire society.