We welcome you, yet again, to another thrilling episode of (audience chants loudly together as the title appears on screen) “Why I’ll Never Ride a Motorcycle!”
Same exact thing happened to me on my bike. Old dude in a new caddy was looking at the boats in the harbor and nailed me. I smashed in the whole roof with my pelvis and did high speed backflips. When I stopped skidding I rolled to the guardrail and held on so I wouldn’t get run over by the next car. Bike was launched into the river. I didn’t feel anything until the adrenaline wore off but by then I was in the ER with an IV I’d feel good.
I tend to notice when someone is coming up behind me, I'd have definitely downshifted and been ready to move if I'd seen him, that said, dunno where he came from so maybe just wasn't enough time. Even in my car I don't let people who are on their phones stay behind me, not trying to get rear ended
That bag probably save him from a lot more serious injury. It cushions him from going directly into the hood/windshield and is actually what propells him up causing him to flip twice. That is a lot more time to (relatively) slow his body down than slamming and sticking into the hood and windshield alone. Cars have crumple zones but bodies aren't supposed to be the thing that crumples them.
I'm not saying all Audi drivers are assholes, or that all assholes drive Audis, but the venn diagram has significat overlap. Hope the biker isn't dead.
BMW and Mercedes drivers have a good portion of that overlap as well. Although Mercedes drivers tend to drive like assholes not out of aggression but entitlement and obliviousness.
Wait?.....that's attempted vehicular homicide by the silver car that rear-ended the motorcycle? he probably flipped the cam because he was being tailed by some asshole.
To all the people in the comments talking down to motorcycle riders or just being negative.. Learning to ride a bike must have been so difficult for you huh? No, it's normal to have slow reflexes and a sub-par grasp of objects in motion. Don't worry, no one can hurt you in your three-ton security blanket. : )
"Tecumseh OPP later determined that the Audi had been travelling on Manning Road when it collided with a portable toilet, then continued and struck the motorcycle from the rear. " ..... what?
Hah read my comment above. Same exact thing happens to me on my bicycle and my pelvis destroyed the whole roof of a new Cadillac. That was 14 years ago and I’m mostly better now. Ruined knees was the worst.
You're getting downvoted because a very common and lazy joke among conservatives is "haha isn't it funny that trans people identify as something different than what we think they are??" Your joke pretty clearly implied that the person was now trans because their penis shrank, which dovetails pretty closely with the above, which is the "One Joke". Just my perspective, but if you don't want to be lumped in with asshole conservatives, might want to avoid jokes of this ilk.
I understand this, but didn't take it that way. Maybe it was the "congrats" or general lack of assholery words. Though I can see where this hits the shittiness of transphobia in our culture so probably should be avoided. Thanks for pointing this out.
Yeah, but that's not the "one joke" that so-called comedians make about us trans people. It's the "I identify as an attack helicopter" or some variation of it.
I feel they are. Intention matters. When someone uses the "I identify as" joke, it's usually told nearly word for word the same everywhere you go because people recognize it as that offensive joke, and that's intentionally why it's shared. I don't get any sense of intentional mocking in this joke posted here. It's acknowledging trans people but, crucially, not making fun of them. Hell, as a trans gal who's had bottom surgery, I was going to make a similar joke until I saw one was already posted.
I watched a brand new Ford Puma make a turn at a junction so slowly I thought they had stalled. They were being so careful to avoid the truck waiting at the junction of the road they were turning into by driving so slowly, they still fucked up and clipped the kerb with the back wheel.
Worrying about their camera? What are you talking about? Of course the driver is at fault. The motorcyclist was slowing down, you can tell by the change in engine sound.
While I agree it could be a reason. Its also plausible that the driver of the car was slowing due to the cross walk and the motorcyclist ignoring the car that was obeying traffic signs.
Yeah I see it now. For some reason I thought I was seeing the bike strike the car. Now I'm home and can fully watch it... I was so wrong. Still... now I know the bike likely was slowing down and hope cross-walkers were unharmed.
You don't see the car much, but can see the biker shift gears (left hand lever) a few times and they seem to be slowing down so I'd assume the car didn't react to the change, if there's a hazard in front the car should be able to see it past the bike, and the red light on the back saying they're braking. And that's not saying anything about how the car may be able to out-brake the bike. Even if they were being a dick and brake-checking, they shouldn't hit
I've known a lot of bad drivers that won't brake based on the brake lights of the vehicle in front of them, but instead wait until their depth perception picks up on the change in speed. Incredibly dangerous, and far too common. These people are people I never allow to drive with me in the car.
Considering the intensity of the impact, I’d say the problem also was a Kala’s that likes to see how far over the speed limit he could go. “No traffic? I can do 110 in a 45! It’s only illegal if I get caught!”
There is a documented phenomenon that a lot of drivers (not all, of course, but a serious fraction) see motorcycles but do not register them in their mind as vehicles and behave as if they aren't there. This actually tends to get worse the more experienced a driver is.
We can classify any object on the road as "car" or "not car", and we do so because it is useful. But as we do this over and over again over years, people often learn to take a cognitive shortcut to not further classify anything that isn't a car, so everything "not car" gets lumped into "environment". Its a contributor to people saying that a motorcycle, bicycle, or pedestrian "came out of nowhere": they saw them, but didn't immediately recognize them as something that would interact in traffic.
Indeed, but most people expect 'the environment' to remain static, and when it doesn't remain static this can cause issues. The way human cognition works is about building a mental model of the environment. Your eyesight is actually god-awful outside of a small region of central vision, but most of your field of view isn't continuously consciously perceived as the terrible blurry mess that it actually is: this is because your cognitive model of your environment is filling in the blanks, and 1/2
Fun fact! This phenomenon gets *worse* the more familiar a place is. Which is a contributing factor to the surprisingly common event of people running over their own kids on streets near their home, or even their own driveway.
That's pretty scary there are drivers out there like that. I am even more paranoid about motorcycles when I see them on the road and give them all the room they need.
I think that's a valid conclusion. I've never ridden a motorcycle, but when I drove stick, I'd be sure to press the pedal enough to activate the brake light when coasting or when stopped. Defensive driving, give everyone else all the information you can about your actions and intentions.
It's not about being right. It's about stayin' alive. Stayin' alive. Ah. Ah. Ah. Ah. Stayin' aliiiiiiiive. Signal every turn and lane change IN ADVANCE, make sure your headlights are on, and get some brakelights lit up if you're slowing down. Please. Help me help you.
To expound on this... The car was WROOOOONG!!! Dead wrong. And the motorcycle was right, absolutely right... but he was almost DEAD right. If you want to be sure to arrive alive, give yourself your best chance... broadcast what you're doing to the world!
Not on a motorcycle, but I have been rear ended 3 times in the last 6 years. All 3 times I was at a complete stop, either because of traffic of red lights. All 3 times the person was on their phone. 2 of the 3 times was a dodge ram 1500. Both of those times my car was a right off
No. Luckily I was in full size sedans (or saloons, depending on where you live). So, both times the entire trunk (or boot) was completely caved in as well as other damage. If the cost of repairs is greater than the value of the car it's a right off. I always buy used cars because I don't like having payments, so my cars are usually worth around $10,000 when I get them
Yup. I had my eyes on my rear mirrors at all times when i was riding. Constant checks when stopping for this exact reason. Still crashed twice. Once was a buddy of mine who wasnt paying attention during a ride and rear ended me. The other was a 10mph slip on a metal sewer cover on a corner during a rainy night turn.
About 12 years ago I was driving tired after a long day and I pulled out in front of a motorcyclist and his passenger at an intersection, because I somehow didn't see them. Thankfully he was able to dodge me. I pulled to the side of the road and took a few minutes to collect myself... I could've killed two people because I was inattentive, distracted or something. Shame that it took an experience like that for me to change my perspective. So yeah, I wouldn't ride a motorcycle either.
Motorcycle blindness IS a thing. You don't see what you don't expect. I've had a woman look me directly in the eyes THEN merge right into my lane and push me off into the dirt shoulder going 70 mph. My handlebar knocked against her window! There wasn't even anyone in the right lane she needed to switch lanes FOR!
That's what I think happened to me. I looked to the left scanning for a car or a truck in the intersection as I had ten thousand times before, I didn't see one so I made my right turn. For some reason, my brain completely blanked on the motorcycle. At least that's what I think happened, I was never able to fully confirm it as the motorcyclist didn't stop to cuss me out or anything, he just carried on while I was completely unsettled and disappointed with myself.
Unfortunately, it happens a lot when you're riding. You'll deal with it at least once or twice in an hour trip with a good amount of traffic. Though it sounds contradictory, you have to ride while aggressively defensively driving.
One main reason I stopped. Had been driving on the street since I was 16. Been almost hit well over 50 times, and the ONLY reason I wasn't was because I consider everyone a threat and stay vigilant.
The new Arch motorcycles are a thing of astounding beauty and made me immediately nostalgic for when I used to ride. I wish things were different, but it's just not possible anymore. Too many people rely on me being hale and whole.
He said 20%, not 2%! It sounds like a case of poor conditioning. People are not used to seeing many motorcyclists in the UK and likely have poor response abilities as to how to behave around them or consider them. I also assume the 20% is for motor-vehicular related deaths.
I realized when my (no ex) wife got pregnant for the first time that an important part of being a dad is not risking your life needlessly. For me, that meant no motorcycle and no sky diving.
Somewhat related: my daughter pointed out to me that anybody can go skydiving. It requires training and preparation to go skydiving *twice*.
Same. A few close calls with idiots either texting or road raging. Drivers keep getting worse. I stick to off-road now. Likelihood of leaving my kids fatherless is much less.
My wife works in prosthetics and told me that the number two reason why patients would lose a leg was because of motorcycle accidents. (She doesn't want me to start riding)
I asked her, "have you ever had a patient lose a leg to a motorcycle, and then later lose their other leg to a motorcycle?"
She said yes
So I told her, "sounds like they must be worth it"
My mom had a similar story when she worked in prosthetics. Motorcyclist tore one leg off below the knee, then tore the other off above the knee. Had to learn two new ways of walking, not just one.
shakefu
This is why I have 8 motorcycles cause I’m too busy doing maintenance to actually ride anywhere
professionallazyperson
We welcome you, yet again, to another thrilling episode of (audience chants loudly together as the title appears on screen) “Why I’ll Never Ride a Motorcycle!”
drduffer
Get off your phone!
Boatsntoes
Same exact thing happened to me on my bike. Old dude in a new caddy was looking at the boats in the harbor and nailed me. I smashed in the whole roof with my pelvis and did high speed backflips. When I stopped skidding I rolled to the guardrail and held on so I wouldn’t get run over by the next car. Bike was launched into the river. I didn’t feel anything until the adrenaline wore off but by then I was in the ER with an IV I’d feel good.
jon5465
applesforjuice
I tend to notice when someone is coming up behind me, I'd have definitely downshifted and been ready to move if I'd seen him, that said, dunno where he came from so maybe just wasn't enough time. Even in my car I don't let people who are on their phones stay behind me, not trying to get rear ended
CitrusyGarlic
Holy fuck, dat image stability!
kaneinencanto
Easy to fix in post with a 360° camera.
Malinut
Methinks that may be the result of engine braking, a problem well known amongst experienced motorcyclists.
sirsmeghead
And of course it's a Audi Driver that hits the bike, figures.
MrWobblyHead
Not all Audi drivers. My dad drives an Audi and rides motorcycles. There's no one I feel safer as a passenger than when my dad is driving.
sirsmeghead
Then your dad is basically a unicorn, around here where I live, 99% of Audi, BMW and Mercedes drivers blatantly disregard of most traffic rules…. :(
sirsmeghead
Here all those drivers seems to think they’re above the law unfortunately, it’s not fun to see
tinydog
Dukenukemx
That an Audi driver?
BDD85
For a brief moment.. their eyes locked, and sparks flew.
spankeyfish
Considering the dent he put in the bonnet, there's a solid chance that he's dead.
eviljesus84
It was his saddlebag that did that
KeyMasher
RIP that man's saddlebag.
Abearinthezoo
That bag probably save him from a lot more serious injury. It cushions him from going directly into the hood/windshield and is actually what propells him up causing him to flip twice. That is a lot more time to (relatively) slow his body down than slamming and sticking into the hood and windshield alone. Cars have crumple zones but bodies aren't supposed to be the thing that crumples them.
Bex316
I'm not saying all Audi drivers are assholes, or that all assholes drive Audis, but the venn diagram has significat overlap. Hope the biker isn't dead.
ReturnWinchester
BMW and Mercedes drivers have a good portion of that overlap as well. Although Mercedes drivers tend to drive like assholes not out of aggression but entitlement and obliviousness.
JAPONfan
This is, and I cannot stress it enough, NOT what I expected.
horseman05
BandannaNinja
Hope that driver goes to prison
MelodyLightfoot
As someone who experienced this exact situation first hand, I can say it's not fun.
Pphunk77
Wait?.....that's attempted vehicular homicide by the silver car that rear-ended the motorcycle? he probably flipped the cam because he was being tailed by some asshole.
RatsLiveOnNoEvilStar
"insta360" Its a 360 cam that records in all direction. It's likely a post processing that only shows the one angle.
AllTheGoodOnesWereGone
One of many reasons I could never ride. Fatal bike accidents are a weekly occurrence around here. Other reasons include being a total klutz.
RockKickass
Thank god he at least was wearing nice gear and more importantly a nice helmet
whitey211
Chiropractors hate this one trick.
gablestout
SOUND ON
fformulaa
God damn, is that scary! Came out like a homicidal land torpedo. Completely blind
mercbrit
Pretty handy the camera was facing that way!
TheGreatAtomsk
according to the watermark the cam is a insta360 x3 - a 360º camera so the footage can be rotated in post.
fractalsphere
360 camera, I bet
MrWobblyHead
Insta360 according to the watermark in the bottom right-hand corner.
dghughes
The rider was 360 too!
MelodyLightfoot
Don't even have to bet it's litterally in the corner of the video.
VodkaReindeer
Sounds like a smart bet
Makerofroads
Terrible accident, but holy hell that phone holder did its fuckin work!
zombehtodd
To all the people in the comments talking down to motorcycle riders or just being negative.. Learning to ride a bike must have been so difficult for you huh? No, it's normal to have slow reflexes and a sub-par grasp of objects in motion. Don't worry, no one can hurt you in your three-ton security blanket. : )
JaXm
How fucking fast was that asshole going to hit him that hard??
BobaFettApproves
I’m just guessing, but it really seems close to 90mph…. At least 60mph…
AlwaysInTheshadows
The bike was slowing down but he was still going pretty quick. That dickhead behind him was hauling balls.
coprolite
DingalingTime
I love this. Thank you lol
LeftRightThere
Damn it, this is funny
myotheralt
Boioioing
Geracht
Fuck you but also upvote.
Squaba13
FarQuad
Haha...are we all going to hell?
yeahhedugit
Look at that dent in the car! How fast was that idiot going?
ballsoutflyer
Stupid fast. Emphasis on stupid.
LeftRightThere
Maybe the bike was slowing down to stop. [Obligatory] At least 3.
GendouLovesDucklings
This one, maybe? https://windsorstar.com/news/local-news/driver-charged-after-rear-ending-motorcyclist-in-tecumseh/wcm/dc893890-8f08-4db3-8c7c-0afcf75a2d1a/amp/
mercbrit
“mischief (value under $5,000)” what does that mean?
Jmat26k
Damage to the toilet or motorcycle maybe?
Minoes
that poor dude's medical bill will probably be more than that!
BobaFettApproves
WOW WHAT A GIANT SHIT BAG!!
AndNowForSomethingCompletelyDifferentdk
"Tecumseh OPP later determined that the Audi had been travelling on Manning Road when it collided with a portable toilet, then continued and struck the motorcycle from the rear. "
..... what?
Giantmutantcrab
That entire article is a fucking rollercoaster
majortool
As a cyclist, when I saw this, my penis became an innie.
JustAnotherCynicToo
*Reverse Cork Pop Noise*
SergeyPrkl
but more importantly, was it hard?
zombehtodd
laughoutloud74
I'm female and not a cyclist and my penis became an innie. Balls sucked up inside too!
AllMaktAtTengilVarBefriare
Get a plunger, should sort it out
htapoicoS
Doesn't take much though
Boatsntoes
Hah read my comment above. Same exact thing happens to me on my bicycle and my pelvis destroyed the whole roof of a new Cadillac. That was 14 years ago and I’m mostly better now. Ruined knees was the worst.
FoxyEllie
Congrats! Do you have a name you'd prefer we start calling you?
PinkyTheUnicorn2
#onejoke
FoxyEllie
wait, am I missing something? I don't mean to be offensive, so I apologize if so, could I ask what the problem with the joke is?
PinkyTheUnicorn2
You're getting downvoted because a very common and lazy joke among conservatives is "haha isn't it funny that trans people identify as something different than what we think they are??" Your joke pretty clearly implied that the person was now trans because their penis shrank, which dovetails pretty closely with the above, which is the "One Joke". Just my perspective, but if you don't want to be lumped in with asshole conservatives, might want to avoid jokes of this ilk.
areyouelonmusk
I understand this, but didn't take it that way. Maybe it was the "congrats" or general lack of assholery words. Though I can see where this hits the shittiness of transphobia in our culture so probably should be avoided. Thanks for pointing this out.
Elnauriel
Yeah, but that's not the "one joke" that so-called comedians make about us trans people. It's the "I identify as an attack helicopter" or some variation of it.
PinkyTheUnicorn2
Are those really different jokes, though? The basic premise of the joke is "x person identifies as something new haha"
Elnauriel
I feel they are. Intention matters. When someone uses the "I identify as" joke, it's usually told nearly word for word the same everywhere you go because people recognize it as that offensive joke, and that's intentionally why it's shared. I don't get any sense of intentional mocking in this joke posted here. It's acknowledging trans people but, crucially, not making fun of them. Hell, as a trans gal who's had bottom surgery, I was going to make a similar joke until I saw one was already posted.
Sigge1981
Texting and driving. I fucking guarantee it.
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custaJapeDog
I watched a brand new Ford Puma make a turn at a junction so slowly I thought they had stalled. They were being so careful to avoid the truck waiting at the junction of the road they were turning into by driving so slowly, they still fucked up and clipped the kerb with the back wheel.
AlterSack
Probably, but there are also enough idiots who are already completely overloaded with one of them and would ideally do neither.
MisterBoxes
There as also the issue of car peeps being blind to cycles just over looking then while looking out for cars
YippeeKayakOB
Texting and driving 200 mph
pak0chu
Where I'm from this is called attempted murder, or just murder depending on how he landed.
vegivamp
No, it's not.
NotSomoneElse68
Is the car driver at fault? Or was the cyclist worrying about their camera?
TychoTychoAlba
Idiot.
MrWobblyHead
Worrying about their camera? What are you talking about? Of course the driver is at fault. The motorcyclist was slowing down, you can tell by the change in engine sound.
ILike2TouchButts
While I agree it could be a reason. Its also plausible that the driver of the car was slowing due to the cross walk and the motorcyclist ignoring the car that was obeying traffic signs.
vegivamp
If the car was slowing, how the fuck would it have hit the bike?
ILike2TouchButts
Yeah I see it now. For some reason I thought I was seeing the bike strike the car. Now I'm home and can fully watch it... I was so wrong. Still... now I know the bike likely was slowing down and hope cross-walkers were unharmed.
bamcobra
Did we watch the same video?
ILike2TouchButts
Oh shit you right. For some reason I thought the bike hit the car. Shame on me.
bamcobra
Like a few others have mentioned, I had to watch it multiple times to figure out what happened. Don’t feel bad.
aducksayswhat
Even without any phone to steal attention, it's far too easy to fall into highway hypnosis in a car
MyPseudoIsAlduinSkyrimStoleItFromMe
This is no highway and the car guy is probably speeding
aducksayswhat
You don't see the car much, but can see the biker shift gears (left hand lever) a few times and they seem to be slowing down so I'd assume the car didn't react to the change, if there's a hazard in front the car should be able to see it past the bike, and the red light on the back saying they're braking. And that's not saying anything about how the car may be able to out-brake the bike. Even if they were being a dick and brake-checking, they shouldn't hit
mebe21
I've known a lot of bad drivers that won't brake based on the brake lights of the vehicle in front of them, but instead wait until their depth perception picks up on the change in speed. Incredibly dangerous, and far too common. These people are people I never allow to drive with me in the car.
VindictiveBathToaster
Considering the intensity of the impact, I’d say the problem also was a Kala’s that likes to see how far over the speed limit he could go. “No traffic? I can do 110 in a 45! It’s only illegal if I get caught!”
DavidBrooker
There is a documented phenomenon that a lot of drivers (not all, of course, but a serious fraction) see motorcycles but do not register them in their mind as vehicles and behave as if they aren't there. This actually tends to get worse the more experienced a driver is.
BullittGT
jridley
"Inattentional blindness" - There's an excellent video on YouTube about it. Look up "Invisibility Training for Motorcyclists" by FortNine
DavidBrooker
We can classify any object on the road as "car" or "not car", and we do so because it is useful. But as we do this over and over again over years, people often learn to take a cognitive shortcut to not further classify anything that isn't a car, so everything "not car" gets lumped into "environment". Its a contributor to people saying that a motorcycle, bicycle, or pedestrian "came out of nowhere": they saw them, but didn't immediately recognize them as something that would interact in traffic.
NCPBullet
So if I see environment.....I still don't fucking hit it with my car
DavidBrooker
Indeed, but most people expect 'the environment' to remain static, and when it doesn't remain static this can cause issues. The way human cognition works is about building a mental model of the environment. Your eyesight is actually god-awful outside of a small region of central vision, but most of your field of view isn't continuously consciously perceived as the terrible blurry mess that it actually is: this is because your cognitive model of your environment is filling in the blanks, and 1/2
DavidBrooker
Fun fact! This phenomenon gets *worse* the more familiar a place is. Which is a contributing factor to the surprisingly common event of people running over their own kids on streets near their home, or even their own driveway.
BullittGT
That's pretty scary there are drivers out there like that. I am even more paranoid about motorcycles when I see them on the road and give them all the room they need.
Bonnedad
I’d say it’s because he was using engine braking to slow down and idiot driver not seeing brake lights rams back of bike
UnpinionedPoplars
I think that's a valid conclusion. I've never ridden a motorcycle, but when I drove stick, I'd be sure to press the pedal enough to activate the brake light when coasting or when stopped. Defensive driving, give everyone else all the information you can about your actions and intentions.
Bonnedad
You can be in the right, but that doesn’t help when they’re inattentive and are in a vehicle that weighs 10x what you do
UnpinionedPoplars
It's not about being right. It's about stayin' alive. Stayin' alive. Ah. Ah. Ah. Ah. Stayin' aliiiiiiiive. Signal every turn and lane change IN ADVANCE, make sure your headlights are on, and get some brakelights lit up if you're slowing down. Please. Help me help you.
UnpinionedPoplars
To expound on this... The car was WROOOOONG!!! Dead wrong. And the motorcycle was right, absolutely right... but he was almost DEAD right. If you want to be sure to arrive alive, give yourself your best chance... broadcast what you're doing to the world!
vegivamp
Way too many words. It's because idiot driver. That is all.
Bonnedad
Just pointing out what you have to think about as you ride. Every time I ride I laugh and think “not today satan!” I don’t even get angry
pjm82
Not on a motorcycle, but I have been rear ended 3 times in the last 6 years. All 3 times I was at a complete stop, either because of traffic of red lights. All 3 times the person was on their phone. 2 of the 3 times was a dodge ram 1500. Both of those times my car was a right off
jesuisgur
One of those gigantic pickups ? It's not a rear-ending then, they just drive over you, no ?
pjm82
No. Luckily I was in full size sedans (or saloons, depending on where you live). So, both times the entire trunk (or boot) was completely caved in as well as other damage. If the cost of repairs is greater than the value of the car it's a right off. I always buy used cars because I don't like having payments, so my cars are usually worth around $10,000 when I get them
UnpinionedPoplars
I figured it was just a mistake and was gonna let it go, but you did it again, so i thought you might want to know... *write off.
chittychittybangbanglovesustoo
A clear dry road, only two of you in traffic and the motorcyclist still gets taken out. That's why I don't ride a motorcycle.
JohnSmithterms
Yup. I had my eyes on my rear mirrors at all times when i was riding. Constant checks when stopping for this exact reason. Still crashed twice. Once was a buddy of mine who wasnt paying attention during a ride and rear ended me. The other was a 10mph slip on a metal sewer cover on a corner during a rainy night turn.
techymonkey
It's not called a "donorcycle" for nothin
Ibringchocolate
I would love to ride a motorcycle but around here there are tons and tons of huge SUVs with people who can't drive safely. :-/
SindarElla
I drive a Nissan sentra and even that feels SO tiny compared to some of those monster SUVs and trucks. It's absurd.
djzapz
About 12 years ago I was driving tired after a long day and I pulled out in front of a motorcyclist and his passenger at an intersection, because I somehow didn't see them. Thankfully he was able to dodge me. I pulled to the side of the road and took a few minutes to collect myself... I could've killed two people because I was inattentive, distracted or something. Shame that it took an experience like that for me to change my perspective. So yeah, I wouldn't ride a motorcycle either.
quietwalker
Motorcycle blindness IS a thing. You don't see what you don't expect. I've had a woman look me directly in the eyes THEN merge right into my lane and push me off into the dirt shoulder going 70 mph. My handlebar knocked against her window! There wasn't even anyone in the right lane she needed to switch lanes FOR!
djzapz
That's what I think happened to me. I looked to the left scanning for a car or a truck in the intersection as I had ten thousand times before, I didn't see one so I made my right turn. For some reason, my brain completely blanked on the motorcycle. At least that's what I think happened, I was never able to fully confirm it as the motorcyclist didn't stop to cuss me out or anything, he just carried on while I was completely unsettled and disappointed with myself.
quietwalker
Unfortunately, it happens a lot when you're riding. You'll deal with it at least once or twice in an hour trip with a good amount of traffic. Though it sounds contradictory, you have to ride while aggressively defensively driving.
ravenousj
I've been riding motorcycles since I was very young. Because of this, I'm thinking of giving up on riding street. Maybe I'll get back into dirt bikes.
Pacifistmonkey
I still do even with this. It may happen some day but it is that or me, going insane. A bike is a nice therapist.
joble
I'm just thinking of getting motorcycle and this actually did get me thinking. Wow amazing how internet videos and few comments can alter your mind.
spiffylookingnerfherder
Probably found at fault too, because reasons. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
CloakedFigure
People are so goddamn stupid that I look both ways twice on a one-way road before crossing it.
DocWino
That’s why I stopped.
MeatPopsicleMultiPass
One main reason I stopped. Had been driving on the street since I was 16. Been almost hit well over 50 times, and the ONLY reason I wasn't was because I consider everyone a threat and stay vigilant.
blwoodcock
After 50 years of riding I had to give up. It's just too damned dangerous on the road.
DiracsDelta
I only ride where cars are rare.
Fatbird
The new Arch motorcycles are a thing of astounding beauty and made me immediately nostalgic for when I used to ride. I wish things were different, but it's just not possible anymore. Too many people rely on me being hale and whole.
dashers
In the UK, which is pretty good for road safety (top 10), motorcyles take up 1% of our traffic, yet account for 20% of our deaths.
terifrastus
i do not like that no sir
Geracht
Damn, gotta get me a motorbike in the UK clearly
pianostacatto
He said 20%, not 2%! It sounds like a case of poor conditioning. People are not used to seeing many motorcyclists in the UK and likely have poor response abilities as to how to behave around them or consider them. I also assume the 20% is for motor-vehicular related deaths.
HighFunctioningAlcoholic
I think you missed the death-wish joke.
Kyrorayne
Charles Bronson?
monkeyfly
Which is why I ride a bike.
dudeinjapan
My dad rode for years in the UK - even worked for a motorcycle company - but took one glance at how people drove in the US and never rode again
putcleverusernamehere
Yup. After years of good luck sold mine after a close call when kids were little and never looked back
mmmerf1
I realized when my (no ex) wife got pregnant for the first time that an important part of being a dad is not risking your life needlessly. For me, that meant no motorcycle and no sky diving.
Somewhat related: my daughter pointed out to me that anybody can go skydiving. It requires training and preparation to go skydiving *twice*.
HotCarle
Same. A few close calls with idiots either texting or road raging. Drivers keep getting worse. I stick to off-road now. Likelihood of leaving my kids fatherless is much less.
westPAguy
Nah, I'll never stop riding. Too much fun.
cardsox
Thank you. Shit is better and cheaper than therapy too.
gonergoner22
I hope you're a donor.
textilelover
So long as you don't have dependent children, that's cool.
TheSuicider
Hell yeah. I know I'm vulnerable out there but no one's gonna take my summer therapy from me
UnknownTongue
Summer therapy haha, come down to Arizona. We ride all day, every day, all year round here, and it's fantastic.
TheSuicider
Two words: "Finland" and "winter" :'(
Merdock
My wife works in prosthetics and told me that the number two reason why patients would lose a leg was because of motorcycle accidents. (She doesn't want me to start riding)
I asked her, "have you ever had a patient lose a leg to a motorcycle, and then later lose their other leg to a motorcycle?"
She said yes
So I told her, "sounds like they must be worth it"
Camelspotting
So is meth apparently.
Heavenissize17socks
Well said; you are aware of both risk and rewards. Just dress for the slide.
wodensday
My mom had a similar story when she worked in prosthetics. Motorcyclist tore one leg off below the knee, then tore the other off above the knee. Had to learn two new ways of walking, not just one.
SirRichardOfHead
To be honest if I lost a leg in a motorcycle accident I'd consider giving up riding. Until I'd get a suitable prosthetic to ride again.
green110
what was the number 1 reason ?
SpoilsburyToastMan
Probably diabetes.
westPAguy
Merdock
Yep, diabetes.