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BigFuckOffAnvil64
Im in this post and im ashamed!
Wait....
TheMindEntropic
I needed this *decades ago.* Thanks, patriarchy, for keeping me, and so many others like me, beholden to a system that increases likelihood of dysfunctionality and suicide.
onemightyandstrong
Fuck the Mormon church.
ImAMomWhatsYourSuperpower
This has worked for me. It wasn´t easy, but it worked.
Leitzout2
My wife is going through this right now, it seems no matter how many times I tell her we all love her and she has nothing to ashamed of for getting laid off and not being able to find a job right now.
marquettegoldeneagles
Thanks for being her cheerleader. She might not always recognize but she needs to hear it. It helps.
TimAllenWrench
Chat gpt wrote this.
WOLFINSTRUMENTALS
I'm guessing you think it wrote a lot of things you come across.
tesuto
I can't deal with all of this now, buy i do recognise how valuable this information is. I promise, to anyone who reads this and to myself, i will come back to this.
KilroyLichking
oh i know where it comes from. My father told me REPEATEDLY that i should just be quite because it was better for people to think i'm stupid then for me to open my mouth and confirm it.
marquettegoldeneagles
Mine just beat us and belittled us, constantly saying we weren't helping enough. When I almost died at 15 he changed his tune which is why, at a distance, I can love him in my own way but we are no longer as close since 2024.
spankyouveryverymuch
I had no idea how much I needed to read this, thank you for posting
IMakeLotsOfReferencesAndRemakes
I will say shame is not necessarily bad in all contexts but no one deserves to be stuck in it. Any emotion really. But some of the biggest ones are shame, anger, and fear and they almost never come alone. I spent years in therapy for anger and one of the things I did have to do was address that I was using it to cover other feelings (like fear and shame) instead of actually taking time with the feeling, maybe find the root of the problem, and let the feeling go.
ihugpeople
Brené Brown says shame has no positives, but rather posits guilt is the one that motivates us. Shame tend to self blame and hid oneself, guilt says more "I shouldn't have done that" and let us be better.
foxpotate
PTSD and CPTSD from abuse and bullying in a nutshell.
clwnkar01
In my experience those who abuse have been abused
DamnThursdays
Hi. That's my diagnosis. 100% can confirm. Relentless bullying without reprieve led me to deal with an unhealthy amount of toxic shame during most of my adult life.
Efreeti
pfffffffffffyeah..... I'm dealing with unpacking a lot of defensiveness and shame popping up in my responses in difficult conversations with my spouse, and yeah, growing up neurodivergent with no support and being a bullying victim through the entirety of my school years did something to me.
marquettegoldeneagles
Same then I lost my twin, my closest confident and became an alcoholic. I truely believe I cannot be fixed.
SalmonMax
I think the thing I hate the most, is that knowing what it is doesn't help. After a lot of therapy, and a ton of introspection, I feel like I understand a lot about what's going on in my head...but it's not like an optical illusion where it just kind of evaporates when you know the trick of it. Understanding feels...irrelevant. I feel like I feel. Knowing WHY doesn't change anything. It's incredibly frustrating, which can feed into that spiral if I'm not mindful.
SmashySashimi
Look up EMDR Therapy. It comes in different forms, so it doesn't have to involve eye movement; the kind I tried involved holding pulsing handles that were out of sync. It didn't feel different immediately, I noticed it later when I realized that the spirals weren't as frequent and became easier to get out of.
bbrtki
bullies need to get slapped hard,.. often parents dont care, teachers dont care, or punish the wrong person.
Punish the bully - not the bullied kid who throws a punch at the bully because of an overflow of frustration.
iPez
I am triggered because my dad invalidation two days ago. was a bit hard to read because fight or flight got activated, managed to use the energy to tell my dad how he made feel. Not sure I was able to made him understand he needs to ask things politely but at least I spoke instead spend the week isolated.
marquettegoldeneagles
My therapist says i live in fight for flight mode which causes my constant an it which is true, always waiting for the next bad news. I got to get out of this cycle. Work doesn't help.
QuiMoritur
As beautiful a message as this is, I'm nearly certain the whole thing was written by ChatGPT :(
harlequin2262
It's from a psychotherapist who does a bunch of infographic content creation. It's written in a very pat way but in this case it's actually pretty efficiently put together for this sort of purpose.
ZenMonkey48
Ok, but how do we solve internalized shamelessness? Asking for a government.
LostChats
Found the unnecessary and unhelpful comment about USA politics.
-1
picklesthefirecat
Also see Rejection Sensitive Dysphoria (RSD). Closely tied to ADHD https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diseases/24099-rejection-sensitive-dysphoria-rsd
Ionlyflossbeforethedentist
This is the first legitimate advice I've ever heard on imgur. Thanks
monkeyfly
Getting called out a lot in this post.
SpecialIdiot
AH so that’s what it was. Thanks OP
70percentMiserable
This scene
SkittishLittleToaster
What movie?
70percentMiserable
KPop Demon Hunters on Netflix. This is the scene Rumi confronts the voice of her shame.
SkittishLittleToaster
Thank you
ILoveThiPlatform
This movie is such a good lesson about the burden of shame. It was dragging her down for so long.
ChelVanin
#4 oh no….
marquettegoldeneagles
Tell me about it...
HandoB4Javert
BobRossHB
Oh with all the pixels this time, yum
HandoB4Javert
The skills of @BabyFarkMcGeeZax are acknowledged
wantfastcars
#14 the problem here for me is doing this aggressively makes it worse. Showing it to ANYONE, even my closest loved ones, just drives me further into the shame spiral because I WANT them to leave and they just won't. It feels like I'm a tree with the bark being torn off, forcefully exposing the parts of me I can't protect. In practice, this turns a kind of "I'm potato" 30 minutes into hours of sobbing. It breaks me every time.
BoaHanc0ck
It must be hard to do something that feels so violent and severe. Instead of creating, a wound, try sharing a scar. Even if it's just the scar of a paper cut.
scrumbles666
Sounds like the only thing you feel sure of about yourself is that you're garbage, and so when you show that to people and they don't leave, they're effectively failing to validate you and you feel even more rejected over it. You probably do need a professional to sort that out, but this little pop-summery is right about how much of the fight is just corralling instinctual physical responses so your thinking brain can function unobstructed. 1/2
scrumbles666
For all that it feels fucking awful, it's not significant that you fall to pieces after opening up. Your emotion muscles are all weak and atrophied; it's going to feel like shit when you use them for a while. Therapy, support groups, talking to randos online about it might help by lowering the stakes, but the work is rewiring your synapses so they don't jump to meltdown mode every time you express an honest feeling. 2/2
wantfastcars
Sorry for the late reply, it's been a busy week. I think your first sentence really hit the nail on the head, and it's been fucking with me, in a not-totally-terrible way. I've been seeing a therapist on and off, but I found out after a few sessions she's using AI for at least SOME of our interactions, and for numerous reasons I can't get another. I do have some online support and my partner is absolutely amazing, but I hate dumping most of it on her. But thank you, really.
scrumbles666
What a useless fucking therapist. If what I said helped then I'm glad. I hope things keep improving, and if you need help you think some rando with no special medical, psychiatric, philosophical, or spiritual training can provide, feel free to reach out.
iusedtodream
Perhaps some time with a therapist would help? They have to be there, because you are paying them. And your secrets will stay there with them, a professional, with laws and rules and ethics and shit.
wantfastcars
I've been meeting with a therapist roughly once a month for about a year now, but it hasn't really felt like it's been helping. Plus I found out she's been using AI for some of our interactions, and for reasons I can't get a different one. Hopefully once I can move to be with my partner I'll be able to see a therapist much more regularly.
iusedtodream
I'm sorry you are stuck with a shitty therapist. Using AI? Should lose their license. Finding the right therapist is crucial for healing. You always have the right to say "this isn't working" and request someone else.
kJerAFK
Strangers can be good confidants: a barber or bartender has heard worse and is used to hearing personal admissions. I talk to my barber like this and I apologized for dumping, he laughed and told me how a previous client had admitted to murder the previous week.
wantfastcars
Language barrier with my barber (and everybody else local, for that matter) and I don't drink, but I do have some people I can talk to. It still hurts a lot to be vulnerable and open, but I have at least somewhere I can be open about this.
ILoveThiPlatform
Online communities too
ForlornFennec
Very informative, but where would one procure one of these "safe" people to open up to?
SilverStarPine
Maverickaura
Isn't this just social anxiety disorder? Or do I need a therapist even more than I thought?
marquettegoldeneagles
Therapy for all
scrumbles666
There's a lot of things in the DSM that this can apply to. It's a pop psychology summery, after all. Also therapy isn't just for broken minds anymore than a mechanic is for broken cars It's ok to go to therapy just for a mental tune-up, to get some feedback or workout some feelings you're having.
derpman4k
Lots of words to say: just dont give a fuck
As a buddhist, maybe its easier for me to let go. But the past doesnt exist, so why should i care about it.
We hold on to too much, i dont let others have the power of controlling my mind. Only i can do that.
Comet260
Christianity pushes internalized shame HARD. According to that death cult, we are "born into sin" and deserve to burn forever BY DEFAULT.
marquettegoldeneagles
Yup being forced to confirmation classes Wednesdays snd Sunday church im fucked. I really hate my parents. I truly wish they never had me. I now am also 'mourning" people who are still alive.
homoerection
Yes, I was thinking back to where shame was imparted to me and if was Definitely being raised in religion. They shame you for literally anything and everything.
Jinxer13
Luckily that kind of shame is easier to get rid of than ones coming from childhood trauma caused by your closest relation I.e narcissistic parent abuse. Not easy mind you, just easier. One is an ideological framework you can actually dispel through rationality and many have. The other seeps into your core and becomes part of your identity on a fundamental level. Of course those intertwine when parent is the one indoctrinating, but still a pathological parent "hits different"than just a Christian
johnblood616
It never ceases to amaze me that we are STILL burdened by the delusions of shit-encrusted pedophiles from a zillion years ago.
SmellingMistake
To be fair we're also burdened by the delusions of shit-encrusted pedophiles from current day.
burnsey
Hey not a Christian here but had a thought about this... Shame seems to be a common but often unacknowledged human experience. Wouldn't original sin be a (perhaps tacit) form of acknowledgement? Infernalists aside, the redemptive element that's associated with rebirth into a shared common humanity doesn't seem *terribly* awful for an early culture. That's, ofc, not to say this idea hasn't been corrupted to suit hierarchies for the most part these days.
VinchVolt
on its face, the idea behind original sin is "nobody's perfect so stop trying to act like you're high and mighty," and in turn, the idea behind confessions (to a priest in catholicism and to god directly in protestantism) is to emphasize the idea that people will continue to make mistakes. however, those who lust for power find it very easy to flip this into "you are an inherently terrible person and only through complete submission will you avoid eternal punishment for the crime of being born."
VinchVolt
i was raised in a reconciling christian environment, so my upbringing wasn't being constantly surrounded by fire and brimstone (and consequently my current perspective on christian belief is more academic fascination regarding its sociological and literary traits than adulation or revulsion), but it doesn't take too much stretching to determine how like every possible belief system, religious and secular alike, can be used for the sole purpose of attaining, preserving, and exercising power.
Ivain
And the weird thing is, that makes no sense according to their own canon. The "original sin" was supposed to be washed away for the followers of Christ, BY Christ sacrificing himself.
If not that, then at the very least baptism was meant to wash it away. Yet despite that entire sects of christianity seem to have re-adopted the idea of 'you are born guilty, spend your life atoning or it's hell for you' somewhere along the way. I've not done an in-depth study, but I'm curious where each got it.
GerhardRammelhausen
Depends on the flavour of christian. Catholics believe that you need to earn that sacrfice by being faithful to Jesus Christ and his virtues (even though they don't give a fuck about what JDawg "said" lol). Then once you die, god will judge over you and you might be awarded eternally in heaven.
scrumbles666
From the need to maintain existing power structures which have always relied on abusive methods for control. A church built around a loving god that forgives all sins out of compassion alone is a church where the rightful authority of slave owners, aristocracy, men, white people, etc. is not secure. And so the church is changed to an institution that exists to protect the powerful, be it a king or a cult leader, through their preferred methods of shame and violence.
grandfalloon
Why do I feel like Paul is to blame?
trinxter
So I want to know how many people really relate to this. I think I go the other way too far: no sense of shame or guilt about most things. A few, but I still give myself a lot of slack. I hold onto some negatives, and don't work to fix or change things because it feels like a waste of time and I would rather be wasting time on the internet. I think I am pretty similar to most of the people reading this.
Cyrilion
It depends, i don't care about most things, but that's an effect of my longterm depression.
I do feel shame about some things because I'm not able to fix them, i have done the full therapy and psych routes and I'm just a broken person now, there are hard lines preventing me from being the man i could be without my mental issues.
One of the hardest things i ever did in therapy was accept that i had to stop pushing myself to be better, it was killing me, but i would rather have burnt bright.
kiarasa
I don't relate to the post or to your comment. I don't feel much shame, but when I do, I reflect on it. If I find I'm holding onto something negative in myself, I try to improve it. I'm curious why you consider that a waste of time
Lutki
Everyone assumes they are representative of the average. I would argue the overwhelming majority of people carry shame around all the time. Like internalized shame is literally the founding principal of the abrahamic faiths. They tell you that you are bad and deserving of eternal suffering and the only way to be good is to do what the religion says; observing Halakha for Jews, confessing and repenting to Jesus for Christians, and Islam has deen according to Sharia law.
quietwalker
Not everyone assumes they're average. Some folks who have had to work hard observing people to understand when behaviors are abnormal or not may be hyper-aware of their placement on the curve.
Beyond that though, I'd go so far as to say everyone innately thinks that they are unique individuals instead, each possessing one or more traits that are if not unique, distinct in their social circles which marks them as individuals.
Then again, I'm gen x and we all tried too hard to be unique.
quietwalker
I also do not feel shame or embarrassment. Never really have.
Helped at lot when I was still in school, easy to make friends if you can just go up to someone and talk to them. Easier to get things too - just ask for them and you may be surprised how often even silly requests are granted.
I don't think this is normal though. That being said, I believe too many people have self-reinforced their sense of guilt and shame beyond reasonable levels as well, enough to give themselves anxiety about it
judyblue
I relate to the internalized shame, hardcore. And the thing is, I *know* that what the images in this post say are true and that they apply to me, and I *want* to heed them, but then I get to #14 and I'm like... welp, that person doesn't exist, and I have no idea how to ever find them, and the reason I haven't is because I'm a piece of shit, etc. etc., and the whole cycle restarts. Being self-aware about it just adds another layer of shame to beat myself up over.
It's super fun.
Tharasyn
Hard relate, and with trouble remembering the past it feels like a defining constant trait. Who am I? Someone who should be ashamed. Why is that? I don't know but I think you'd have to have been there. I must have been, to be so certain.
HereThere
That sounds like numbing to me. What makes You feel alive? Like, really?
Tesaphine
A lot of it stems from having shitty adults in our lives as kids and learning to protect ourselves from abuse by feeling bad enough about ourselves for making a mistake that the adults would believe it, and therefore not feel the need to dish out abusive punishment to us. Then other kids would see that shame as a weakness and bully us for it, hence the social isolation when we feel shame. If you had good adults in your life as a kid, you generally don't develop this kind of survival skill set.
mrmukaoy
A combination of religion telling me what a horrible person I am (& there's nothing I can do to fix that) and typical childhood experiences reinforcing that same message (that nobody has ever disagreed with) have integrated into my core view of myself. And that view is that I am "less than."
scrumbles666
I do, but a lot of it is probably do to basic emotional regulation issues that come with autism/adhd spectrum stuff. All embarrassment was equally distressing, so I held onto minor stuff and struggled to avoid major stuff because 'classmate made a light joke about my wrinkled shirt' felt just as awful as 'I told a really inappropriate joke and now no one is looking me in the eye.'
24kGoldPlatedBees
I relate a lot to this. I’ll be driving to work in the morning and suddenly I remember that time 20 years ago when I bounced a check and suddenly I feel like I’m drowning in shame like it just happened. It’s every damn day. I know logically that nothing I’ve done warrants how long and intensely I loathe myself for it, but that doesnt stop it.
quietwalker
I know what shame and embarrassment is, but I don't really experience it. I can fake it though, that makes people feel better since it's normalized and all and they feel they can relate.
Is there any good thing from shame? I mean, it's not required to see that you might have done something poorly and could do it better, for example, that's just simple self-reflection and introspection, which everyone should be doing all the time already.
scrumbles666
Yeah, it's a fundamental building-block of empathy because it's the bad feeling that comes from realizing someone else is unhappy because of you, thus providing a personal motivation to care about how you interact with the world at large. Even if we lived in a utopia where adults had weened off that sort of emotional feedback through good behavior and introspection to maintain it, it'd still be a big part of emotional development.
DeguRatface
Are there other emotions you feel you don't experience? Shame and embarrassment do have a place socially to guide us towards empathy as the other commenter said, and discourage us from poor behaviour. A lack of these feelings CAN be an indicator of psycopathy/ASPD. If you are having to fake emotions I would suggest maybe getting a proper psych review for your own safety. I'm not a doctor but I know one of the key traits is faking or practicing emotions.
quietwalker
For a long time I was angry about everything, severe behavior issues and then when I hit puberty, it all went away, bang, I just didn't get upset anymore.
I understand why people have certain emotions, it's not alien or anything - in fact, in person I find it's very easy to be well liked. I just don't see experiencing a lot of them as pleasant or efficient, so I just choose not to at the time. You can always process that later if there's reason to.
Some folks have suggested this is sociopathic
DeguRatface
Certain things do develop with puberty as well. Sociopathy I THINK is knowing the difference between right and wrong, but simply not caring. Which is why sociopaths may act recklessly/dangerously. Psychopathy is not being able to tell the difference between right and wrong. Not suggesting it's necessarily either of those things but I definitely think you should talk to someone. Instead of a 'lack of emotion' it may actually be numbness, either way, don't ignore it. Look after yourself man.
quietwalker
Hmm. I know the difference, it's not that I don't care - and in fact, I feel good when I do things for others that are good, so there's still an active reward system. However, it's just not efficient to operate on that level, and worse, a lot of the time it's counter productive. Like, why feel bad when something happens when you can start doing something about it now? Why worry about being embarrassed if it means you won't enjoy yourself?
I'm a hedonist and I want to max my pleasure!
vikingladywizard
I’m a therapist treating shame and trauma and I approve this message
PerkyPervertedPet
Well.... I was doubting this content because it came only from a "life coach" with no real degree who is making money with expensive private coaching. 350 $ for some Video-Deman-Content is a lot. Maybe she would be just telling people what they want to hear or need to hear to book a secession with her. But if a random imgurians says she is legit.... well I am still skeptical. For something between self-help-books an a real professional she seems very expensive.
amaihai
Thanks for validating it from a professional perspective!
kJerAFK
Do you recommend any books for this kind of thing?
vikingladywizard
There are many, but I’m quicker to recommend seeking out a somatic therapist. Learning about attachment styles
and parts work is also a great way to start. “What My Bones Know” by Stephanie Foo is a relatively recent release on the topic that has gotten a lot of acclaim.
PerkyPervertedPet
You are a physical therapist? But you make it seem like you are a psychological therapist given this context.
vikingladywizard
Yes, I am a licensed doctor of PT, which means that my professional education is grounded in the physical body, including the brain and the nervous system. I have post-doctoral education and experience that expands into specialized somatics and other modalities. As indicated in the post above, shame (and trauma) live in our physical body, and the process of unlearning them is a body-based process (not a cognitive one). We don’t think our way into shame, nor can we think our way out.
TheDaharMaster
Hey real quick why do I remember terrible decisions made in my youth and not awesome ones
elusivekarma
We remember more those things that 1 - are tied to strong emotions either in the moment, or resonating with prior memories tied to strong emotions, and 2 - we come back to and think about over and over. If you spent time ruminating on mistakes in the past, you reinforced those memories.
TheDaharMaster
I hate to think that my brain prioritizes shitty emotions rather than ones I enjoyed
elusivekarma
Well, shitty emotions are there to warn us of dangers, threats. Positive emotions encourage us to seek out pleasurable experiences. To survive, we often need to prioritize avoiding threats over seeking pleasure. Only once our basic needs are met and we feel safe do we more easily gravitate to pleasure seeking.
Tesaphine
Something Dr. K said that made a ton of sense is "the brain doesn't care about you being happy, it just cares about you surviving."
thotterpop
It's a lot to read, and i refuse to try an AI summary of this.
yamsonyamsonyams
It’s honestly best to do this work with a professional
Having someone to challenge your thinking is part of the process
This is a good guide, but there is a reason why people read multiple self-help books….
navyjeff
Read it all, one step at a time. It's worth it.
spinbutton3
Does it really work though? It sounds like a great way to trigger a major spiral.
TheMindEntropic
I would suggest looking up "Dialectical Behavioral Therapy" and read a little about it. I believe it would easily complement all of this.
For me, a lot of what helped me survive this long was brutal self-honesty and a willingness to admit I could be wrong about anything, while also being able to look at myself as a third person.
TheMindEntropic
Y'know. "Be who you needed when you were young," sorta. Thinking things like this as often as possible for a great amount of time can put us onto a completely different timeline, imo.
But life is still very difficult.
vikingladywizard
It works, but as it says above the healing happens *in relationship,* not in isolation. These are principles to learn and practice in skilled somatic therapy that can then translate into daily life and behavior with others. Support is crucial for success.
marquettegoldeneagles
So support like a therapist? I dont want to bug my husband anymore with it. He has his own childhood trauma.
spinbutton3
So impossible for some of us. Super
MatureDendriticCell
but we are right here, and we validate you, spinbutton3.
spinbutton3
Thanks so much :-) I extend the same to yall
vikingladywizard
Support can come in many forms, including informal settings like an exercise class, a book club, or online groups/communities. Heidi Priebe on yt and the Being Well Podcast has a lot of valuable education.
vikingladywizard
But you’re right - isolation is a problem. And it’s a systemic problem. It’s not fair, nor is it your fault.
dreikommavierzehn
hm i don't know. never felt safe enough in any kind of group for that. As far as online contacts go, I stopped relating to them like a real person, because they came and went so quickly in my life, without warning and permanently. Even though most of my life was online.
I think there is a point where one can be too far gone, from society and social contacts, to make this work again. Except for maybe some very unlikely lucky coincidences, which can happen of course.
thepicklebucket
Or just take some shrooms about it
Margrave9000
Yup. Why spend so much effort and time when a small dose of shrooms does the trick.
spittleteets
Yes!
I would add: in conjunction with talk therapy, otherwise the increased nueroplasticity could compound negative thinking if not externalized with someone acting as a mirror.
thotterpop
https://media0.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPWE1NzM3M2U1a3p6NnFqb285djVxZ3MzcGtkMXpqYTF6NHdycGc0dzJvaGY2NmxlMSZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/wsZ5Xp3nyZN0DqmX5m/200w.webp
HereThere
NO! You can’t drug your way out of inner work. Drugs are lies that you tell yourself
styxthetrashbandit
Medicine is different and people are discussing possible ways and mindsets to benefit medicinal vehicles.
Your black and white thinking are directly blatant literal lies you tell yourself instead of being honest with how complicated things are.
Or you can be Mr Mackey and I won't give two shits, mmm'ok?
MeanMisterClean
ok mom
Margrave9000
Shut up with that spiritual bullshit.
Substances work because they are chemicals and your brain works with that. It's science.
'Inner work' or whatever shit Joan from Accounting read on facebook isn't chemistry.
gingen
psilocybin has done wonders for my depression, genuinely. To the scale of like once a year and I'm good.
marquettegoldeneagles
Im so interested in this but so scared. Im an alcoholic and I think it would help that and my depression but I've never really hilucinated and it scares me. But im getting pretty desperate here. Although in therapy Im not really building good habits and practices.
gingen
So the good news is that you don't need to hallucinate or have a "trip" to feel a high. A microdose tends to be enough and depending on the strain, it may not have any visuals whatsoever. Like Golden Teacher for example is said to be more a of a spiritual high, while B+ tends to be more visual.
I need to be extremely clear that I'm speaking only from my experience and I'm not a doctor. The only times I've had a Trip is when I set out to have one.
marquettegoldeneagles
I understand how completely clear you are. I am asking for personal experience here, so I appreciate. No plans of getting of my meds and im in a much better place now.
THANKS FRIEND!
gingen
Additionally, if you're on antidepressants, mushrooms may not provide any benefit nor will anything be felt. Do NOT stop your antidepressants. Listen to your doctor. Be safe. It's not some panacea unfortunately and everyone has different experiences. If you do end up trying some, take it someplace you feel safe and if you have someone you can lean on to help if you have a bad experience, rely on that person to be around. Go into it with a good mindset.
gingen
If you're not in a mentally good place when you want to take it, don't take it. You won't get anything out of it.
marquettegoldeneagles
I agree thats ALL I've heard
marquettegoldeneagles
That's what my best friend i was going to do it with said to me said. She said we'll have some pizza and watch a funny movie. Be in a good place. I trust her.
Imtheguywhogetsawaywithit
Works for a lot, but not for everyone. Some people will be more broken by the experience.
OhIfIMust
I knew someone who tried ketamine therapy: They were so traumatized by the first trip that they won’t share the slightest detail about it.
styxthetrashbandit
Bad experiences are rare. And bad experiences on booms led to good experiences in general from the experience according to studies.
Bad trips are rare. And bad trips are good for you.
Have fun 🍄
styxthetrashbandit
Omg a wild link appeared
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC12435557/
For the lookup or be on my topic impaired
styxthetrashbandit
Lol I never said people should take it just said what the studies actually say.
Most y'all commenting psychedelics have no idea booms are not lsd and have both been studied pretty extensively to never have a linked death or permanent disability set on.
Have fun pussies
Imtheguywhogetsawaywithit
Doesn't always work that way, champ. People who are more prone to mental illness can get irreparably fucked by psychedelics. Everybody is different, and not everything is beneficial to everyone.
styxthetrashbandit
A new mild temporary hallucination is the worst I could find. Neuroplasticity is way more complicated than that, buddy. No one has ever been recorded worse off, and in no way long term, and in no was seriously disabled by any use of it ever recorded.
Your speculative "permanent chemical damage" theory has been debunked and unproven for a very very long time.
KR1570F
the paper you linked recommends doing the drugs with properly trained professionals and it also highlights the importance of set and setting. The cutting edge science suggests that psychedelics CAN be therapeutic but not that they can do no psychological harm.
Imtheguywhogetsawaywithit
A simple google search proves you wrong.