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Divided we fall.
Mar 26, 2017 8:50 PM
FlashBambi
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Divided we fall.
RickDyball
They need to do more, much more.
Photi
Who will they side with when push comes to shove? Not the Westerners.
ImSaltyWalty
So many comments to downvote
Undroid19
Reasons I'm going to hell: Look! They lined up for the next attack!
xerxes1xerxes2
how stylish
TheAmbiguityShows
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taqiya
Sadist90
You read my mind :)
ilikemostcats
but OP, this doesn't fit the narrative, what were you thinking.
idontevenknowsillymonkey
Somebody's gonna get pissed for not being able to get a good photo on that bridge and blame Muslim 'protests' for ruining England. Sad/true
TheNippleHunter
*sees controversial topic* ..... *scrolls to bad comments*
TheBengalKatLady
Whats sad is they have to do this to remind ppl they arent the enemy.
sarahisacommieandprude
Now all together, 1...2...3... jump!
TristanVIII
I love how abhorrent is in quotes. XD
Mediathug
Why? That is the actual word they put out in a statement. So it's quoted.
TristanVIII
It makes me laugh because sometimes people use quotes to denote that something is facetious, or wasn't actually said.
rezpawner
Quotationmarks have two meanings. One makes this look absolutely terrible.
Brasswhale
It does make it look like an "air quotes" sarcasm thing.
SprinklesMckitten
Holy shit! These comments. It's like a woman flashed her ankles and wanted to own property
Kayback
Ah nice.
pshawn
Cool
CatBugg
Scum of Imgur, out in force below.
secretlibby
The best part is how people who routinely troll the entire female half of the species suddenly care how Islam oppresses women.
CatBugg
BigErnsDaycare
Well then....guess I'll just be scrolling down to the bag comments section... Can't be that ba....Holy shit wtf is wrong with some of you
Justkillmealready
Bad Replies are my lifeblood
Megarith
Reporting for duty.
yesigetitivape
"Isn't Islam opressed women " "all muslim are the same" "religion of peace, yeah right" well dude islam is just a religion chill Islamphobe
yesigetitivape
I just don't understand why some imgur are so hatred against Islam so much like they expert about it
TheEightfoldPath
Many hate islam as much as they hate judaism and christianity. Me included. Fuck them all. Inb4 "muh fedora"
ShadowBannedForMakingMemes
Your trilby is showing
aDefenseless9yearOldGirl
it's probably because most of the Islamic world is believes things that we find horrifying and barbaric.
MyPalmsSpaghettiKneesWeakArmsSpaghettiTheresVomitOnMySpaghetti
The women pictured above are in the UK, not "the Islamic world," cupcake
aDefenseless9yearOldGirl
FloodingWaters
yeah, but the word islamic is barely necessary and easily replaced in that sentence.
FloodingWaters
potential replacements:"religious" "political" "christian" "western" "eastern" "living" "new" "old" -all work just about as well as the rest
aDefenseless9yearOldGirl
No, you can't.
apercent
Yeah I see your point, the problem is that they believe the same things. Gay stoning, anti-feminism, etc. I think it's just xenophobia
aDefenseless9yearOldGirl
I grew up in the rural south and have never met anyone who wants to kill gays outside of Pakistan and Afghanistan. Donald trump got a 1/2
aDefenseless9yearOldGirl
Standing ovation when he talked about gay rights. 'Anti feminism' basically isn't real in the west. Don't equate the west with Islamism. 2/2
apercent
Not that I'm saying it's the same but they relate to people who believe what they do to the extreme, by all rights Islam should fit in
cazdude
And we're stoned to death by Muslim men 5 minutes later. Lol
rezpawner
It's not very surprising that you can't spell for shit, given your political views.
cazdude
Kukiniloa
Who let them out of the house unescorted?
iseeyoushiverwithantici
Who let you on the internet without parental consent?
Kukiniloa
How many Muslim nations have you been to or lived in? Educate yourself.
EtidorhpaGanesh
This takes place in London.
Kukiniloa
I understand that. Does that make this religious oppression of womens' rights acceptable? Just because Islamic law does not prevail?
iseeyoushiverwithantici
I need to "educate myself" in order to be empathetic to women of another religion? Fuck off with that shit. They made their own decisions.
ADMNtek
nice gesture but considering how little value woman have to Muslims near pointless.
JosephVissarionovichStalin
Everybody's got a mom.
iseeyoushiverwithantici
If you don't think women have value then obviously you're head is too far up your ass to get the point. This isn't for those people.
CaptStabbin804
Liberals will criticize "white" theocracy. Like Christianity, but they don't let you talk shit about Islam. Which is easily the most 1/2
CaptStabbin804
Destructive religion of our time. Islam needs reform. It isnt just radical terrorist muslims that are wrong. 78% of British Muslims 2/3
CaptStabbin804
Thought the Dutch cartoonist that drew Muhammad should have been legally punished. It's bullshit and quite frankly I'm sick of being 3/4
CaptStabbin804
Labeled an Islamaphobic for voicing how much bullshit that religion is. Why is it so exempt from criticism?
airen
I am glad you made 4 comments, I got to downvote you 4 times without expending extra effort.
CaptStabbin804
Right well if you knew anything about Islam you'd know it's extremely close minded and doesn't need extremists to be dangerous.
airen
If you knew anything bout republicans youd find they are exetremly dangerous and dont need extremists to take away our abortions
airen
If u knew anything about christianity you'd know its extremely close minded and doesnt need extremists to be dangerous
airen
If u knew anything about judaism youd know its exetremely closed minded and doesnt need exetremists to be dangerous -jesus
airen
If you knew anything about liberals youd find they are exetremely closed minded and dont need extremists to destroy our lifestyle
airen
If u knew anything about x religion youd know otd exetremely closed minded bout x thing i think n doesnt need extremists to be dangerous
airen
If you knew anything about captstabbin804 youd find he is exetremely closed minded and doesnt need to try and get to know the people he
airen
Or she hates without even considering they all have a different way of thinking and doesnt need facts to be toxic
airen
If you knew anything bout gay culture youd know its exetremely closed minded and doesnt need exetremists to turn my son gay
nomad546
This is what religious Islam looks like. The attack, and those who perpetrate and support such attacks are political Islam. Big difference.
statuatorycrepe
you have to be really deluded to believe that.
TheAmbiguityShows
Isnt that a "no true scotsman". Or something like that?
nomad546
The former practises their religion within a society. The latter wants the society to conform to their religious beliefs.
itsthevoiceman
No. Because these are actual Muslims who do not condone the acts. No one is speaking on their imagined behalf via the "Scotsman" fallacy.
GreaterDog
I think this is what Islam in the West looks like. In many countries, Islam is inseparable from politics, and often the most repressive
apercent
I think the truth is, Islam doesn't really reflect as much as country politics do. Oppressive countries will be oppressive wether they are
apercent
Muslims in the middle East or Christians in eastern europe
GreaterDog
states are theocratic. It's not representative to use the minority snapshot in Western countries for all groups/beliefs under the ~2 billion
GreaterDog
person umbrella.
FloodingWaters
that's exactly what is meant by the use of the term political islam. that islam which is inseparable from politics.
FloodingWaters
that said, a person may live in a region of political islam and yet practice personal/private, spiritual/religious islam. shit's complex, yo
aDefenseless9yearOldGirl
No, they are both religious Islam. Regardless it's a religious & political ideology by design.
RandomActsOfDrunkenness
Terrorism is always politically motivated, even when it piggybacks off religion. ISIS aren't proselytizers for anything but their own cause
aDefenseless9yearOldGirl
I don't understand what that has to do with this, but yes, that is accurate
RandomActsOfDrunkenness
I feel like it's an important distinction to make, as some people seem to think that ISIS members are all imams or something.
aDefenseless9yearOldGirl
Yes, but 'mainstream' Islam is still supportive of what we in the west would consider extremism.
boopmonger
I'm sorry. But If my religion had a chronic terrorism problem. I'd leave it.
TurtleOnTheRocks
http://time.com/3934980/right-wing-extremists-white-terrorism-islamist-jihadi-dangerous/
EricFromAccounts
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airen
If it's christianity it DOES. It was called the crusades & you know the whole thing where it was genocidal against native americans....
CertifiedTintinologist
Your entire life is a chronic retard problem. Maybe you should leave that. Make your parents happier at least.
ASuspiciousHouseplant
Anyone remember the Crusades?
OlympicLlama
Again I stated this the crusades were wars of defense stop miss attributing facts to suit your arguments. Do it right or not at all
browsib
I'd say the cause of the problem is turmoil in home countries which are mostly Muslim, and the rise in islamophobia, more than the religion.
EricFromAccounts
I hate Islam-bashers, buuuut I would put it ENTIRELY on home oppression. Saudi and Iraq are failed states that are "exporting" their 1/3
EricFromAccounts
people's rage to the rest of the world. The Arab Spring saw Egyptians telling reporters their excitement at the prospect of toppling the 2/3
EricFromAccounts
the regime + replacing it w/an open meritocracy. Suicide bombing is psychologically just a diff way to seize control of their destiny :( 3/3
ImNotDoneYet
I'm glad their husbands allowed them to leave the house.
uboat57
Savage
residentolive
I feel the same way about Christian women every day
iseeyoushiverwithantici
ImNotDoneYet
This only offends you because it's true. Muslim women who follow the tenets of their faith are subservient to their husbands.
iseeyoushiverwithantici
Who said I was offended? I just find it annoying you try to speak for every Muslim woman everywhere without talking to her first.
ImNotDoneYet
You may not like that someone pointed it out, but it is true. I'm sorry if your sensibilities have been offended.
ImNotDoneYet
It offends me that woman are treated like property. It offends me that those woman had to ask permission to stand on that bridge.
residentolive
Well fyi, Christianity says the same thing. Where is your outrage now?
ImNotDoneYet
Are there Christian woman on the bridge? I thought this post was about Muslim women.
MacPhailia
So are Christian women
zz22bb
Terrorism is a political issue, not a religious one. This is something that must be acknowledged.
ItsMeKabbage
The problem most people confuse is Religion and Ideology, Islams Ideology can have such Vast meaning, 1/3
ItsMeKabbage
and people who read into these ideologies may find them selves turning towards Terrorism. 2/3
ItsMeKabbage
There is little we can do to stop how people take the words of their God, so Countries need to set priorities. There is another 3/4.
ItsMeKabbage
Sadly the easiest and most efficient way is to put up a guard around people who follow the islamic Faith 4/4
Notme68
Much of Islam is in Church States so the two are intertwined, though.
itsthevoiceman
Christianity used to be in the US. Many wish to bring it back. Just because they are intertwined doesn't mean they are inherently the same.
Notme68
Of course not, but it does mean they are hard to separate.
Pocketwing
Holy fucking crap, imgur. This comment section looks worse than 9gag. You idiots act like women showing solidarity are worse than terrorists
Pocketwing
Just cause they're muslim. Dafuq is wrong with you!?
Ellimem
To be fair, a lot of Imgurians have problems with women of all colors! Wait, that isn't a good thing.
Pocketwing
Islam isn't a race tho. I have friends (i'm german) who converted from christianity to islam cause they felt more accepted in this community
apercent
They're getting downvoted so we got that going for us
RandoCalrizzian
D7ve
Wouldn't that be 4chan?
Squirglez
It's pointless virtue signalling feeding the liberal circlejerk.
stabbedintheface
So, anything they do you'd say that
Stinkybutt123
You're not a nice person. Change your attitude or shut the fuck up.
Squirglez
Fuck off!
Stinkybutt123
Hahaha no. You deserve it.
mmurrbles
This is worse those women aren't escorted by their family is one isent even hearing a headscarf. They should be stoned.
Pocketwing
Feels ridiculous to point out that not all muslim women wear headscarfs. For the majority of muslim women in europe this is optional
mmurrbles
Ah so for the minority it is forced?
Pocketwing
Yes!? Thats part of my point.
iseeyoushiverwithantici
apercent
HamptonianPirate
"Why don't Muslims speak out against the terrorists??!?!!?"
yesigetitivape
Ssshh don't said it, it will triggered them
km9v
Their husbands won't let them
ChrisTallant
They have. The problem is, most US news sources fail to see a monetary value in promoting peace.
MissingImage
You dont have to speak out against radical islam if youre a radical muslim.
Rodvitner
My biggest issue is when the Muslims who hold positions of power don't speak out, I know most don't support terrorist attacks.
BalfMalark
Sadiq Khan, the mayor of london spoke out. He is a muslim.
EmilioThePanda
As did the Muslim Council of Great Britain
BalfMalark
They want Allah himself to come down and condemn it. Whatever muslims do to condemn it wont be enough because they hate them. Simple as that
Mewmus
this happens to be the first coverage i've actually seen of them speaking out against the terrorists. like...ever
EmilioThePanda
https://www.theguardian.com/world/shortcuts/2017/mar/26/muslims-condemn-terrorism-stats
MyPalmsSpaghettiKneesWeakArmsSpaghettiTheresVomitOnMySpaghetti
Because they don't get coverage. If you were to look, I promise you'd find it
mossysabertoothtiger
That racist line is said on FOX news more often than "Why don't Blacks speak out against black on black violence ??!?!!?"
JiggleNutz
Lol. How is that statement racist? You are what's wrong with the world today. Please get educated.
BattloidKouji
GET WOKE, SHEEPLE!!!!
rubbarz
They do, they just dont listen or care... And it doesnt get as many views.
aDefenseless9yearOldGirl
Islam isn't a race, it's an ideology and 2/3s of its followers and Britain say they wouldn't report someone who was involved with jihadis.
MyPalmsSpaghettiKneesWeakArmsSpaghettiTheresVomitOnMySpaghetti
http://www.sbs.com.au/comedy/article/2016/07/21/yes-islam-not-race-you-are-still-racist
aDefenseless9yearOldGirl
Not approving of an ideology because of its abhorrent beliefs and practices isn't bigotry. No one calls you a bigot for disliking Maoism.
aDefenseless9yearOldGirl
Sorry 'followers in britain'
mossysabertoothtiger
Islam is a religion not an ideology, you call it an ideology because you're a racist, you forgot because you're stupid
DrYoloMcSwagmasterIIIEsq
Religions are idologies...
aDefenseless9yearOldGirl
Islam is both a religious and political ideology with a doctrine that lays out proper protocols for most aspects of life and government. 1/2
aDefenseless9yearOldGirl
It is not however a race of people.
triagepony
Religion isn't a skin color you fucking pillock
JiggleNutz
When I don't agree with someone I just scream RACIST! ....oh shit you beat me to it.
The2020ElectionWasStolen
I bet you call yourself an atheist so how would you know?
Aardvarksneedlove
Not the best survey, http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/the-big-problem-with-that-poll-of-british-muslims-a6980411.html
jag07
That seems like the areas you should do the survey, no? Where they are in numbers and ideals are stronger?
Aardvarksneedlove
So shall we interview Britain First members to get a general feeling of what all British people think? Fuck no. They don't speak for me.
aDefenseless9yearOldGirl
Please show me
aDefenseless9yearOldGirl
Every time there's some study about what Muslims think, there's some reason that we shouldn't believe it
EricFromAccounts
Yes. It's called critical thinking. It's what people who aren't dipshits possess. That's weird, you show no signs of it at all.
Aardvarksneedlove
They were pretty selective in which Muslims they asked rather than a cross section of Uk Muslims. This will always give 'headline' results
SendMeAllTheMemes
Some do, the ones that are against it in the middle east fear death by isis if they speak openly against them.
PHUCKO
HamptonianPirate
I know. Notice the quotes ;-)
SendMeAllTheMemes
Oh, my bad I haven't slept all night so I'm kinda tired and didn't notice :(
HamptonianPirate
No worries
IAmASillyGoose
Look at y'all, a little misunderstanding, some information thrown about, a good resolution, y'all adorable.
Atomic2
Its more common now, but after 9/11 there were muslim communities even in the US who made death threats to those who spoke out against 9/11.
corneliusgansevoort
Do you have any articles that support this other than Breitbart or InfoWars?
Atomic2
Unfortunately there isn't much from that long ago, but one notable one I recall was Dr Jasser who went on to help fund the Center for 1/2
Atomic2
Islamic Pluralism. Here is one of his articles http://www.islamicpluralism.org/500/death-threats-against-moderate-muslims 2/2
AStegosaurus
Unpopular fact: While the people willing to actually strap on a suicide vest are the fringe, a frighteningly large number of Muslims believe
AStegosaurus
that suicide bombing is justified. Indonesia is the largest muslim-majority country in the world and is a republic with an elected president
AStegosaurus
just like the USA. Only 76% of those polled responded with "Never" to the question "Suicide bombing can ____ be justified against civilian
Pocketwing
I pretend these numbers are true for a quick calculation; indonesia has about 250million people (2013), 76% are 190 million. 19 million!!(1)
Pocketwing
Oops missed a digit... anyways, you're gonna act like 190 million people in one nation alone don't matter!? These people are on our side
caboops
If you will notice, they aren't doing these events in Iran.
Ajitus
they are doing them in the uk because the attack happened there
caboops
And terrorism never happens in or from Iran? *rolls eyes*
Ajitus
from Iran??
caboops
The Iranian government funds terrorism. That is a fact.
CephalopodLodge4
Here is a good way, stop supporting a religion of hate.
itsthevoiceman
For every "hateful" passage people espouse about Islam, one can easily be found in the bible. Don't feed the machine of ignorance.
CephalopodLodge4
No one is killing people because of the bible!
itsthevoiceman
The world isn't in a bubble. Time is a continuum. People did it before, they MIGHT do it in the future. Blame the people, not the religion.
CephalopodLodge4
No blame both, the religion for telling them to, and the people for doing it.
thesmelge
Islam has problems. Most religions have problems, when it comes to it. However, the way to do it isn't by being dicks to Muslims.
thesmelge
People are brought up in the faith, they're indoctrinated from birth to their beliefs.
thesmelge
Calling them names or persecuting them isn't going to make them go "you know, I never saw how bad it was before you called me a 'Mudslime'".
thesmelge
That creates more division and plays into the narrative of ISIS and other extremists. There's no easy solution, but abusive isn't it.
CephalopodLodge4
They chose to support it
EmilioThePanda
The Guardian bright this website to my attention today for when people say this www.muslimscondemn.com hope you find it useful
RampagingBanana
That's pretty well done actually
EmilioThePanda
The article that brought it to my attention is here https://www.theguardian.com/world/shortcuts/2017/mar/26/muslims-condemn-terrorism-stats
reijitamashii
Why doesn't the white community stand up against school shooters?
JackVanFrost
Ah, the inevitable person who thinks Muslim is a race...
reijitamashii
I didn't say it was a race...I was drawing a comparison the inane "Muslim community", "black community", etc comments that always come up.
JackVanFrost
The difference is that by definition, Muslims all share a core set of beliefs. The same cannot be said about all people of one race.
JackVanFrost
"Muslim" is a label they keep despite the shitheads using the same label. That's their right, but it isn't unreasonable for them to 2/
The2020ElectionWasStolen
False flag. Never happened. 2nd Amendment is your friend.
residentolive
Hahahaha
reijitamashii
I hope you're joking. Are you actually saying that a white person never carried out a school shooting? Holy shit...
aDefenseless9yearOldGirl
2/3 of British Muslims say they wouldn't report someone they know who'd gotten involved with jihadis.
azmdmf87
Yeah I'm gonna need a solid source for that
aDefenseless9yearOldGirl
azmdmf87
This is from a neoconservative right-wing network who use biased information as a base for their posts. They shouldn't be trusted
watsisface1
Hey, pm me when he responds pls. Or don't, I'm not a cop
caboops
So since you can not refute the claim or disprove the evidence given, you grasp at condemning the source.
aDefenseless9yearOldGirl
Yeah, those right wing nut jobs at the BBC.
The2020ElectionWasStolen
That neocon is bandied about too frequently. Its good enough for me that CAIR dislikes it to recommend it to me. Also has Moslem writers.