Yeah, except Idle and Pesci are entertainers whose decisions don't have a significant impact on public policy, foreign relations, climate change, economic stability, and every other aspect of the lives of millions of people. I'll be voting for Biden, but he has absolutely no business staying in office. I would be more convinced if the OOP was promoting Harris more often ahead of the next term, but there's been nothing. It's like these people think they'll live forever.
I've seen people point out Google is about to get slapped with a huge online ad antitrust lawsuit in the US and Europe. So that stick and ad revenue might not be around in 6 months, better get people to sign up
Biden is old there's no disputing that fact, we'd all like a younger candidate in the future, but there's no denying that Biden's age and experience is what turned this country around like he has when he started his presidency with a country in the state left by trump and republicans. Give the man his props.
Exactly! I'm tired of reading all this apathy when it comes to voting for him. It's like no one is paying attention to the land mark acts he's doing. His foreign policy alone should have people proud to vote for him....He stood on the picket line, strengthened NATO, got Japan and South Korea to form a alliance, etc..
It's all hive minded bullcrap, "Oh Biden is soo old"....If they for once looked at what he's accomplished they'd think otherwise but it's the weakest argument they have to make against Biden.
Exactly. And it's not just the opposition, alot of d's have this sort of sigh when talking about him. It's like they don't realize he's doing historic thing and don't know how to rally behind it
The problem is that you would need to live to be about 200 years old to learn enough how to run a country. But you can learn how to accumulate wealth and political power over a much shorter time frame. And those are completely different things.
Yes, some old guys can rock. Even so, they shouldn't make up a majority of the government and they shouldn't be making decisions where they won't even be around to experience the repercussions. That said, Biden has exceeded my expectations. If he is the nominee for 2024, he has my vote. But FFS, let's continue trying for much younger folk who are also sane and actually care about other humans.
He continued pretty much all of Trump's policies. Downplay the pandemic, put people in concentration camps for the crime of seeking asylum, increase funding for cops and the military, give out loads of drilling permits, throw money at corporations, and just recently it came out that his administration plans to work on building a border wall.
Biden could have a stroke, be catatonic, inches from deaths door, and I'd still vote for him over that orange clown. That said, I'm not sure I want anyone on that list for president, except maybe Bully Connoly, just to see the press pool try to keep up with the accent.
Biden is clearly a better option than Trump - but letās not pretend heās a young, fit, able leader of the āfree worldā. His best days are well behind him. Heāll get my vote - but a more palatable turd is still a turd.
Of course he's not young, but he is unquestionably ABLE. He's made an impressive amount of improvement, and the potential for more. He has a real mess to fix after No.45 wrecked everything he touched. "A more palatable turd?" NO President is ever perfect, young or old. As Americans, we must adjust to each, and plan accordingly for the next election. Biden produces good results. That's worth focusing on.
'His best days' of doing what? We want our President to be educated, capable, personable and in tune with the common 'man'. Not to be able to run a marathon or play sports. Implying that age is the most important quality is demeaning to his many accomplishments...
He supports better positions than he used to. I think these are his best days. And he's period that old people can change with the times even if they can't change enough to be "perfect"
Well it's generally agreed that the more rare something is, the more valuable it is. And I have to assume Biden has given far fewer handjobs, so I'm going with Biden. I'll just close my eyes and think of something patriotic.
What do people like you want? I've seen enough debates, interviews, and speeches of Biden to know he's mentally fit. His presidency has been a non-stop weathering the storm of the last president. Beyond that, he's confirming lower court judges, fighting for LGBT, and does some amazing work with moving towards renewable energy. I'd argue he's doing a better job than any other politician could (minus Bernie Sanders).
While there's definitely an issue with politicians insisting on staying in power far longer than they should, age-wise, it's really not a major issue with Biden, and is instead used as a proxy for other, less publicly acceptable complaints by many. The media mostly harps on it because they have a stupid inclination to try and cater to right wing "controversies" even when they clearly aren't anything of substance.
THIS!!!!!!! Biden is kicking ass as president. He turned out to be a great president but all people talk about is his age and how anything is better than trump, but here's the thing he's doing better than most presidents do
Technically, yes. Functionally... not really. If the Democrats ever actually chose someone other than Biden in a primary, it would give Republicans free reign to claim that Biden ran the country so horribly that Dems had to do something about it. They would practically hand the election to the Republicans on a silver platter.
Not much really. But nothing would be gained either. I don't know if there is a named theorem for this already but I call it the law of large group management. Getting one person to do something is fairly manageable. Getting ten to do it is harder, but doable. Getting 1000+ is basically impossible. It can be mitigated with different things like money, help, etc. But trying to get enough people to vote against an incumbent president in the primary to change who is on the main ticket won't happen
Im not voting for biden, I'm voting against the current crop of republicans. He's not the worst person for the job, i just want a more pro-labor, pro-climate change action president. I settle for his centrism because every republican is a fucking ghoul.
The thing to remember is that the President isn't so much a leader as a follower. The real power to change shit lies with Congress in the US system. The President can give speeches all he/she wants, but if Congress doesn't pass something, it means squat. Right now, pretty much any bill a Democratic Congress can pass, Biden will sign.
Funny, cause Biden has gotten some serious shit done despite/ with Congress approval. The man leads and because he leads he's accomplished a lot in a few short years.
Oh, don't get me wrong, I'm not deriding what he's gotten done. But consider what Pelosi got passed through the House in 2021-22 that died in the Senate due to filibustering and Manchin/Sinema, and Biden could've gotten so much more passed. But the problem wasn't Biden, it was the Senate. And now it's the House because the Republicans got control there (and are proceeding to burn the place down, sadly). People fixate on the President, and it's a mistake. Get Biden the laws and he'll sign them.
But even with "control" of the House and I use the term loosely because they are an inept mess, they have failed to rein Biden in and he has still managed to get stuff done.
As much of a centrist as he is, his policy is surprisingly progressive and incredibly pro union. But like you, the environment is probably the most important issue in my mind. And unless we get a president like Gore, who will fight tooth and nail on that issue, we are screwed.
He's been more of those things than I expected, like pressuring rail companies to get rail workers the sick time they were asking for after preventing them from striking, but my expectations weren't all that high to start with. He's got that boring old white guy vibe that makes him seem more conservative.
Wish we had that option. But for this next election, It has to be Biden. Otherwise the Fascist win and we won't have to worry about elections anymore. We desperately need viable 3rd and 4th, even 5th party candidates.
1/ Biden got the biggest investment in transitioning to a green economy and fighting climate change ever passed with paper thin majorities in both houses of Congress. Bidenās administration has pumped a gajillion dollars into creating more manufacturing jobs - union jobs - helped the railroad workers get a better deal after everyone chose to believe he ābetrayedā them, and stood on a picket line with striking UAW workers recently. I look in vain for the possible candidate who could accomplish
2/ any more than he has with the same slim margins of support and the same political realities heās facing. It always seems as if people imagine thereās some fantasy president who could just force things to be better than they are. It makes me wonder if people arenāt wishing for a different leader when what they really want is a different country. I am frickinā AMAZED at the amount of stuff that old guy & his staff have gotten done in just over 2 years!
Do you honestly believe that anyone at all could have gotten more progressive legislation passed than Biden has in the past 3 years? In the real world, not fantasy "AOC is every member of the house, senate, and judiciary" world.
Yes. Bernie or Warren would have sway more voters during the midterm and gotten a bluer congress to work with. Biden is progressive for the approval rating, and that's better than any republican we could have gotten. But he hasn't the best pick for the job at any point in his career.
Its a real chicken/egg kinda problem. Need a progressive in office to get progressive votes, but we can get progressive votes until we get a progressive in office.
DrunkBobRoss
Me neither. We're old.
thefinglongerer
Biden is clearly a better option than Harrison Ford.
TooSoonOldTooLateSmart
Patrick Stewart is 83. He finally looks 70.
Direkt4
Perhaps an unpopular opinion, but it pained me to see him in Picard. He needs to stay home.
HeyArabella
I saw Harrison Ford in person last year, he looked pretty old tbh
EllisTomago
They all seem old to me.
MissSiesta
They are.
Psychobeanz
If we're considering felons like Trump, I can vote for Dogg/Stewart 2028
DianNaoChong
Harrison Ford showing up in Star wars to fund a third plane crash is not a great example for letting old dudes run the world.
Direkt4
Uhm, the Star Wars sequels are widely regarded as the best movies in the entire IP. Thank you.
CaptainBlacklung
Ah the old photoshopped white sign bullshit. I'm tired of the internet.
superdinglebudgie
Bidennisnthe democrats palate cleanser before trotting out someone more centrist. Can't shock the voting public too quickly.
Specifically1NakedMolerat
While I agree with the sentiment, it's shopped, poorly at that.
leodavinci1
Apparently ageism is alive and well on Imgur.
Genericusername002
Yeah, except Idle and Pesci are entertainers whose decisions don't have a significant impact on public policy, foreign relations, climate change, economic stability, and every other aspect of the lives of millions of people. I'll be voting for Biden, but he has absolutely no business staying in office. I would be more convinced if the OOP was promoting Harris more often ahead of the next term, but there's been nothing. It's like these people think they'll live forever.
T0go
I've seen people point out Google is about to get slapped with a huge online ad antitrust lawsuit in the US and Europe. So that stick and ad revenue might not be around in 6 months, better get people to sign up
LargeAlbatross
Also totally valid considering we let our TV entertainers run our government on a pretty regular basis because we are so fucking broken as a society.
Perturaboss
thats not a recent photo of harrison ford. he looks his age these days.
Iblamemyparentstoo
Biden is old there's no disputing that fact, we'd all like a younger candidate in the future, but there's no denying that Biden's age and experience is what turned this country around like he has when he started his presidency with a country in the state left by trump and republicans. Give the man his props.
JustHereForTheMemes0321
Exactly! I'm tired of reading all this apathy when it comes to voting for him. It's like no one is paying attention to the land mark acts he's doing. His foreign policy alone should have people proud to vote for him....He stood on the picket line, strengthened NATO, got Japan and South Korea to form a alliance, etc..
Iblamemyparentstoo
It's all hive minded bullcrap, "Oh Biden is soo old"....If they for once looked at what he's accomplished they'd think otherwise but it's the weakest argument they have to make against Biden.
JustHereForTheMemes0321
Exactly. And it's not just the opposition, alot of d's have this sort of sigh when talking about him. It's like they don't realize he's doing historic thing and don't know how to rally behind it
Iblamemyparentstoo
Oh of course, it's really sad
Willk95
And the same age as my dad!
Willk95
and Paul McCartney, and Carole King, and Ian McShane, and Mike Bloomberg
TheMeatWhisperer
And they are all too old to be president. The age of retirement should be the limit.
fuckthisusernamebullshit
Hate causes aging
Danack
The problem is that you would need to live to be about 200 years old to learn enough how to run a country. But you can learn how to accumulate wealth and political power over a much shorter time frame. And those are completely different things.
spinbutton3
Billy Connolly š
itsjustplaid
Yes, some old guys can rock. Even so, they shouldn't make up a majority of the government and they shouldn't be making decisions where they won't even be around to experience the repercussions. That said, Biden has exceeded my expectations. If he is the nominee for 2024, he has my vote. But FFS, let's continue trying for much younger folk who are also sane and actually care about other humans.
stoots24
Kurtwood Smith, you say?
Iblamemyparentstoo
Look, the Stones are touring, Ford is making movies and Biden is well kicking ass.... They're all killing it in their fields despite their age.
SleazyBijou
Iām not going to take anything away from Biden - Iām glad heās here. But cāmon⦠gimme a tan suit or something.
EroticZombiePants
And Scorsese just came out with another movie that might win him more awards.
StrandedonEarth
Yeah, and didnātFord almost land his plane on a taxiway, and also crashed his plane on a golf course?
Iblamemyparentstoo
And lived....
Direkt4
See! It's ok to fail horribly as long as you don't die doing so! Duh!
Iblamemyparentstoo
None of those guys are failing miserably especially JB so!....Duh!
Direkt4
I was talking about Harrison Ford. Idk if I'd be able to say crashing a plane is not failing.
ArchMagos
Didn't Harrison Ford have to stop flying his plane because of his age causing issues?
Direkt4
Yes.
NovaCollision
Trump is the same age as Biden.
JustUsLeagueUnlimited
Trump is 77, Biden is 80. They are of similar age, but Biden is 3 years older
Iblamemyparentstoo
I would say several more years in maturity.
NovaCollision
Biden is a lifetime's worth more mature than Trump.
NovaCollision
That is effectively the same age.
BrickShakes
Biden is old and so what? He could be dead inside the office and still be better than Trump
TheJniac
He continued pretty much all of Trump's policies. Downplay the pandemic, put people in concentration camps for the crime of seeking asylum, increase funding for cops and the military, give out loads of drilling permits, throw money at corporations, and just recently it came out that his administration plans to work on building a border wall.
Direkt4
He's handled Israel/Gaza well, right?
MarcUK
Weekend at Biden's. A story about 2 guys touring the Whitehouse only to discovered a dead President. Then proceed to pretend he isn't.
Isthe4thtimethecharm
Trump is almost as old, and if I had to choose between the two of them health, I would say biden looks healthier.
secretoaster
His ashes could do a better job in the office than any Republican president.
zHurk777
tRump Is A Alfa Male !!! - magas.
TheSmoothSayer
We could literally have a sandwich as president and itād be better than Trump
reineseele
Sandwich would have a whole character arc in 4years. Orange is just orange is just orange. ;)
aluckygrl
rubypilgrim
All of Imgur could do a better job as president than Trump. It would be weird, but better weird than Trump.
OneTheory
I vote for the sandwich!
Breadfordloaves
We can trust the sandwich.
whitefoxkei
Perturaboss
thats not a recent photo of harrison ford. he looks his age these days.
InconspicuousLampshade
Weekend at Biden's
Netskimmer
That's no too far from the truth at this point.
heywoodjabme
Trump is the walking definition of addition by subtraction.
Griztastic
Biden could be dead on the outside too and still be better than Trump.
Lampmonster
And we'd get President Harris which would be fine by me.
Direkt4
Oof.
ATLandNerdy
Biden could have a stroke, be catatonic, inches from deaths door, and I'd still vote for him over that orange clown. That said, I'm not sure I want anyone on that list for president, except maybe Bully Connoly, just to see the press pool try to keep up with the accent.
invaderjay87
Heās only like 2 years older than Trump too
freakdiablo
And in MUCH better shape, despite the "bike fall scandal" *gasp*
Neurisko
Yeah next time Trump runs, he will be older than Biden was when they complained Biden was too old. But they'll never acknowledge that bit.
Isorikk
I would vote for a broom to be president before Trump, at least the broom wouldn't be actively dissolving democracy
PutItInNeutral
A propped up, Weekend-at-Bernie's dead Trump would be a better president than Trump was when he was in office.
Pphunk77
Christopher Walken 2024, could you imagine the press conferences.
ericbres1337
Biden is clearly a better option than Trump - but letās not pretend heās a young, fit, able leader of the āfree worldā. His best days are well behind him. Heāll get my vote - but a more palatable turd is still a turd.
jonReremy9669
the āØAI⨠says that biden is young. the āØAI⨠does not lie
Telharmonius
Of course he's not young, but he is unquestionably ABLE. He's made an impressive amount of improvement, and the potential for more. He has a real mess to fix after No.45 wrecked everything he touched. "A more palatable turd?" NO President is ever perfect, young or old. As Americans, we must adjust to each, and plan accordingly for the next election. Biden produces good results. That's worth focusing on.
SwagicalYololord
Careful. Nina Turner was crucified for saying the same thing.
Munchman347
'His best days' of doing what? We want our President to be educated, capable, personable and in tune with the common 'man'. Not to be able to run a marathon or play sports. Implying that age is the most important quality is demeaning to his many accomplishments...
iosej
He supports better positions than he used to. I think these are his best days. And he's period that old people can change with the times even if they can't change enough to be "perfect"
saltreplacement
I still appreciate how any time he has to speak to 'The Chair' it isn't A Chair, and that he's obviously aware of any difference.
duoplicity
I keep bringing up Lauren Boebert and Madison Cawthorn as examples that youth is not all it's cracked up to be
zanaria
I'm pretty sure they will be douchebags when they are old too...
faeros
With any luck, we won't have to find out.
zanaria
Yeah, the world might end before then...
chunguswangus
Yeah, but who would you rather get an hj from, while a bunch of kids are around? Boebert or Biden?
duoplicity
The kid factor makes this a question with no good answer
Lampmonster
Well it's generally agreed that the more rare something is, the more valuable it is. And I have to assume Biden has given far fewer handjobs, so I'm going with Biden. I'll just close my eyes and think of something patriotic.
Darkwell
Is there anything more patriotic for an American than a handy from the President of the United States?
WeAllLiveInAUserSubmarine
Oral sex in the oval office?
JustUsLeagueUnlimited
What do people like you want? I've seen enough debates, interviews, and speeches of Biden to know he's mentally fit. His presidency has been a non-stop weathering the storm of the last president. Beyond that, he's confirming lower court judges, fighting for LGBT, and does some amazing work with moving towards renewable energy. I'd argue he's doing a better job than any other politician could (minus Bernie Sanders).
varesya
While there's definitely an issue with politicians insisting on staying in power far longer than they should, age-wise, it's really not a major issue with Biden, and is instead used as a proxy for other, less publicly acceptable complaints by many. The media mostly harps on it because they have a stupid inclination to try and cater to right wing "controversies" even when they clearly aren't anything of substance.
JustHereForTheMemes0321
THIS!!!!!!! Biden is kicking ass as president. He turned out to be a great president but all people talk about is his age and how anything is better than trump, but here's the thing he's doing better than most presidents do
RedLetterMediaReactionGifs
I'm hearing a lot of "My vote is for Biden" before we even have the fucking Primary Elections. You guys know you have options in the primary, right?
mithiwithi
Cenk Uygur is the only one of those options worth a damn, and he still wouldn't be half the president Joe Biden is.
TacticalSpoon
Technically, yes. Functionally... not really. If the Democrats ever actually chose someone other than Biden in a primary, it would give Republicans free reign to claim that Biden ran the country so horribly that Dems had to do something about it. They would practically hand the election to the Republicans on a silver platter.
RedLetterMediaReactionGifs
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/ With numbers like this, I gotta wonder what it is you really think you'd be losing by exercising your right to vote for someone who isn't Biden.
mithiwithi
Have you actually seen who else is running right now?
Badprenup
Not much really. But nothing would be gained either. I don't know if there is a named theorem for this already but I call it the law of large group management. Getting one person to do something is fairly manageable. Getting ten to do it is harder, but doable. Getting 1000+ is basically impossible. It can be mitigated with different things like money, help, etc. But trying to get enough people to vote against an incumbent president in the primary to change who is on the main ticket won't happen
Ialwayslookhungover
Im not voting for biden, I'm voting against the current crop of republicans. He's not the worst person for the job, i just want a more pro-labor, pro-climate change action president. I settle for his centrism because every republican is a fucking ghoul.
varesya
The thing to remember is that the President isn't so much a leader as a follower. The real power to change shit lies with Congress in the US system. The President can give speeches all he/she wants, but if Congress doesn't pass something, it means squat. Right now, pretty much any bill a Democratic Congress can pass, Biden will sign.
Iblamemyparentstoo
Funny, cause Biden has gotten some serious shit done despite/ with Congress approval. The man leads and because he leads he's accomplished a lot in a few short years.
varesya
Oh, don't get me wrong, I'm not deriding what he's gotten done. But consider what Pelosi got passed through the House in 2021-22 that died in the Senate due to filibustering and Manchin/Sinema, and Biden could've gotten so much more passed. But the problem wasn't Biden, it was the Senate. And now it's the House because the Republicans got control there (and are proceeding to burn the place down, sadly). People fixate on the President, and it's a mistake. Get Biden the laws and he'll sign them.
Iblamemyparentstoo
But even with "control" of the House and I use the term loosely because they are an inept mess, they have failed to rein Biden in and he has still managed to get stuff done.
Iblamemyparentstoo
I'm voting for Biden just on his record alone.
SwagicalYololord
As much of a centrist as he is, his policy is surprisingly progressive and incredibly pro union. But like you, the environment is probably the most important issue in my mind. And unless we get a president like Gore, who will fight tooth and nail on that issue, we are screwed.
SeeShark
I definitely agree, but honestly Biden's Administration has pushed more labor and climate improvements than I expected them to.
IAmTheBadW01f
He's been more of those things than I expected, like pressuring rail companies to get rail workers the sick time they were asking for after preventing them from striking, but my expectations weren't all that high to start with. He's got that boring old white guy vibe that makes him seem more conservative.
BosunMark
Wish we had that option. But for this next election, It has to be Biden. Otherwise the Fascist win and we won't have to worry about elections anymore. We desperately need viable 3rd and 4th, even 5th party candidates.
ericbres1337
Well said
Ialwayslookhungover
The problem with that is that most of this rounds ghouls with definitely be running again in 2028. Biden was meant to be a band-aid.
Datsinginguy
This
Bottledwahwah
1/ Biden got the biggest investment in transitioning to a green economy and fighting climate change ever passed with paper thin majorities in both houses of Congress. Bidenās administration has pumped a gajillion dollars into creating more manufacturing jobs - union jobs - helped the railroad workers get a better deal after everyone chose to believe he ābetrayedā them, and stood on a picket line with striking UAW workers recently. I look in vain for the possible candidate who could accomplish
Bottledwahwah
2/ any more than he has with the same slim margins of support and the same political realities heās facing. It always seems as if people imagine thereās some fantasy president who could just force things to be better than they are. It makes me wonder if people arenāt wishing for a different leader when what they really want is a different country. I am frickinā AMAZED at the amount of stuff that old guy & his staff have gotten done in just over 2 years!
Nursescroll
Donāt forget chips and sciences act and negotiating drug prices.
SavageDrums
Do you honestly believe that anyone at all could have gotten more progressive legislation passed than Biden has in the past 3 years? In the real world, not fantasy "AOC is every member of the house, senate, and judiciary" world.
Ialwayslookhungover
Yes. Bernie or Warren would have sway more voters during the midterm and gotten a bluer congress to work with. Biden is progressive for the approval rating, and that's better than any republican we could have gotten. But he hasn't the best pick for the job at any point in his career.
SavageDrums
As a huge fan of Warren, that's lunacy. If the progressive vote turned out like that Sanders or Warren would have been the nominee in the first place.
Ialwayslookhungover
Its a real chicken/egg kinda problem. Need a progressive in office to get progressive votes, but we can get progressive votes until we get a progressive in office.