I think your culinary experience in the US largely depends on the state you are from. New York has more Michelin stars than most countries do. You can get a quality slice of pizza almost anywhere in the city. Meanwhile St. Louis and Altoona style pizzas are crimes against humanity and should never be served as food.
Not only will it define us, every 4 years, the lesson learned is that there are 70+ million people who will unquestionably vote for this, no matter what. It will be our future.
You think we will forget, rest of world, what usa did to its allies and to the world? you started another pointless war that we in Europe specially will pay dearly. You are relatively safe in your continent, so you wont get the worst part of terror attacks. Europe we will pay for your fucking mess! We did not want this! but your pedoshitler and your country still did it, even all allies said "no, we dont want war". We wont forget how you ruined this planet more for all. You dont deserve allies.
I'm a UK citizen and live in a fairly affluent area, so my clients (I'm a Gardener) and the people I meet are well read, watch the news, check sources occasionally etc.
Trump is no longer a source of indignation, shock or repugnance over here. You might just as well be angry about a disposable nappy left to fester in the corner of a pub car park.
The way America is defined by the people I know is in their opinion of the people of America, who can't seem to find a pair of gloves and a bin.
You would not believe the level of contempt an ex serviceman, mutilated in Iraq, can get into the expression "weekend marchers"
You would have to be in the room to appreciate the venom in the voice of my GP when she talks about Wade vs Roe and her opinion of "every female in America" with regards to the tame acquiescence to that decision
We can believe that Trump has done the things he's done. What we can't believe is the things you haven't done. And THAT is how this time is now defined.
Jazz, barbecue, lobsters, some of the most diverse landscapes of any contiguous country in the world? Like yeah we have Trump which is a historical bad but anyone who thinks America doesn't have some great food, culture, etc. has done nothing to be curious, and that's a knock on them.
Jazz, invented by African communities in Louisiana Food exists elsewhere, Brazilian and Korean BBQ kicks American BBQs ass. America treated lobster as prison food for the longest time Landscapes, which Americans dont respect, alongside not having done anything to do with them existing.
Louisiana is in America. Anyone who knows a single thing about music will tell you it is an American art form, and having influences from other places does not change that. France didn't invent wine either. America treated lobster as prison food because it was so plentiful. Your preference in barbecue doesn't mean American barbecue isn't amazing.
We get it, you want to hate America. I hate Trump and what the country is doing politically too, but there are great things here.
I'd say it goes back to the silly document Americans call the constitution that is treated as a holy text sent from the prophets. In reality it was supposed to be a living document that would change over time but at this point it just cannot be changed even if 95% of the people would want to.
We could actually punish the people who were complicit and it wouldn't last as long, but seeing as we have the absolute weakest no spine liberals in office, nothing will happen. We'd actually need someone willing to take it to ICE and other traitors to actually come out even close to before we started, but as I said, that won't happen.
Does it? The US has been mass murdering people since before it was even an official country and it hasn't stopped to this day. They put native people and Japanese people in concentration camps in the past and it's scarcely brought up any longer.
The country is literally formed on graves of natives, which the "americans" in their greed just wanted to kill off so they get their land. usa is formed on greed, mass murder and genocide and rape. This continues to this day. They brainwash their kids from birth to think usa is the best place and so "angelic" and righteous, while being satan spawn and facist greedy fucks. I have no respect america anymore, as kid I did but back then I knew nothing. Now I know and I see the hyporcrisy of usa.
George takei brings up them camps pretty often and the youtuber historians I'm watching at least one of them wind up bumping into the native genocide at least once a fucking week. Kinda can't go strolling down any portion of American history without bumping into it. I call it the "oops I tripped over a skull" effect. And here we are with shit on repeat.
Oh I'm sure historians will talk about it, but very few people listen to them. I mean, does it have any bearing on domestic policies? I don't think very many elected representatives think about it at all.
Convo is convo. These youtubers have hundreds of thousands of viewers. Politicians are mostly trash. Most people have a choice between a fascist who is trying to erase history as it offends them and then you got the third way assholes who are paid to think and say "that was hundreds of years ago get over it" with the rise of everything left wing of progressive its back on the table to address. just sitting there next to the mashed potatoes like lovecraft's cat. Glaring you down judgementaly.
Germany owns it and they're not hiding it. Every kid has to learn in detail exactly what led up to the events in preceding years, what exactly happened during and after the war. Many go on school trips to the facilities and memorials etc. Nazi symbolism is highly illegal.
Americans on the other hand learn about their history through whitewashed and cherrypicked textbooks proving America is always the angelic hero. Heinous people still have statues and namesake public infrastructure.
American here, I've heard multiple first hand reports that in some areas of the south its so badly whitewashed kids are just being taught the revolutionary war over and over again each year.
If the heroic WW2 shit is "too woke" now, we are so far passed fucked its not even funny. if the Alamo is too sketchy to teach because conquest implies stolen land then we are in the pumice stone megastructure tofu dregs of hell.
It doesn't have to. You just have to be thorough in the clean-up. A reckoning has to occur. Every level of government will need to be cleansed; a clear message to the world that the USA is ready to sit at the adult table again.
I want to believe the American people are capable of that. But I won't hold my breath.
Even if we did that it wouldn't change the fact we allowed the circumstances to exist that necessitated a thorough clean-up; rebuilding trust won't happen quickly, if at all.
they are not capable of it. if they were, they already would have done something. They are cowards who talk tough and then go shoot kids at school. They are "alpha males" that suck pedophiles dick. Corrupted and fucked up people who have been cancer to earth too long and ruin the earth with fastening speed, since their greed know no bounds.
Do you have an example of that ? I can't find one more recent than 1848 for France but you can easily find ignored referendum and 49.3 to pass legislation without vote. The people has no more power here than anywhere else.
Nicolas Sarkozy faced multiple legal troubles and convictions regarding illegal campaign financing and corruption.Jacques Chirac was convicted of corruption tied to his time as mayor of Paris.François Fillon saw his presidential run implode over allegations of misusing public funds for family employment.Marine Le Pen and other prominent figures have faced legal convictions over the misuse of EU parliamentary funds.
he's not out of office yet jeez give us a chance. stop being such a baby all politic'rs are basterds goddamn. you asked I told smh. you guys are at the same spot on the list for all intents and purposes...
France is ranked 27th, USA 29th and Italy a whopping 52 on the corruption perceptions index. This index measure transparency as a measure of corruption.
France is behind the fucking UAE (?!) many other EU members and dropping. Don't get me wrong, I love France and wouldn't leave but we're not even close to great and the people is dumb enough to vote for the RN
djhash
Gonorrhea
BestofUwU
I think your culinary experience in the US largely depends on the state you are from. New York has more Michelin stars than most countries do. You can get a quality slice of pizza almost anywhere in the city. Meanwhile St. Louis and Altoona style pizzas are crimes against humanity and should never be served as food.
kahooki
Banned foods.
BenderSaysNeat
We are a country of mostly negative culture
Billis75
Not only will it define us, every 4 years, the lesson learned is that there are 70+ million people who will unquestionably vote for this, no matter what. It will be our future.
PapaParatrooper
What ever happened to hotdogs and hamburgers 🍔 why everything gotta be about mr hair sliders. He'e not our food...
GigantamaxHonker
greed, pedophiles, rapist, nazis, facist, backstabbers, kid killers etc etc
rossonerinho
we've got Bourbon ... just sayin'
SubTrout
Barbecue, actually. But also the rapist pedo president, unfortunately.
nikinnorway12
Barbecue is, while popular in America, definitely Carribean. It was adopted and spread by the Spanish.
SubTrout
Aw damn I should've known we stole that shit too. Okay yeah modern America brings nothing to the table.
GigantamaxHonker
You think we will forget, rest of world, what usa did to its allies and to the world? you started another pointless war that we in Europe specially will pay dearly. You are relatively safe in your continent, so you wont get the worst part of terror attacks. Europe we will pay for your fucking mess! We did not want this! but your pedoshitler and your country still did it, even all allies said "no, we dont want war". We wont forget how you ruined this planet more for all. You dont deserve allies.
NorwegianSheepknuller
We'd prefer you guys getting a new Schick. Steal one from us idk just stop doing stupid shit
VibratingNipples
biscuit and gravy
YpsilantiRomani
Corn
chiaco
Which is why we have bourbon :)
ihavethelowground
Iblamemyparentstoo
Lol
ShimmerinStrider
Fucking, ZING!
Ddenver
So, we have that going for us.
NM156
Don't forget about all the school shootings. We still going strong!
HowManyDicksWouldaDickbuttButtIfaDickbuttCouldButtDicks
I was gonna say biscuits and gravy.
PullShporttel
https://imgur.com/uVs5wSK
Exyel
School shootings
winsomecafatiere
I'm a UK citizen and live in a fairly affluent area, so my clients (I'm a Gardener) and the people I meet are well read, watch the news, check sources occasionally etc.
Trump is no longer a source of indignation, shock or repugnance over here. You might just as well be angry about a disposable nappy left to fester in the corner of a pub car park.
The way America is defined by the people I know is in their opinion of the people of America, who can't seem to find a pair of gloves and a bin.
winsomecafatiere
You would not believe the level of contempt an ex serviceman, mutilated in Iraq, can get into the expression "weekend marchers"
You would have to be in the room to appreciate the venom in the voice of my GP when she talks about Wade vs Roe and her opinion of "every female in America" with regards to the tame acquiescence to that decision
We can believe that Trump has done the things he's done. What we can't believe is the things you haven't done. And THAT is how this time is now defined.
nikinnorway12
the hamburger. it's the fucking hamburger. it's not even a question. the god damn hamburger is America's gift to the world.
SecurityBadger
Guns
TheJomsborgViking
Cyclospora.
Aranon1183
Salmonella and listeria, too!
PupShadowDMcTaggart
America is a hotel room and tRump is the black light.
SavageDrums
Damn fine analogy
OkButWhyWereTheyFilming
Jazz, barbecue, lobsters, some of the most diverse landscapes of any contiguous country in the world? Like yeah we have Trump which is a historical bad but anyone who thinks America doesn't have some great food, culture, etc. has done nothing to be curious, and that's a knock on them.
TheLastBootyBender
Jazz, invented by African communities in Louisiana
Food exists elsewhere, Brazilian and Korean BBQ kicks American BBQs ass.
America treated lobster as prison food for the longest time
Landscapes, which Americans dont respect, alongside not having done anything to do with them existing.
OkButWhyWereTheyFilming
Louisiana is in America. Anyone who knows a single thing about music will tell you it is an American art form, and having influences from other places does not change that. France didn't invent wine either. America treated lobster as prison food because it was so plentiful. Your preference in barbecue doesn't mean American barbecue isn't amazing.
We get it, you want to hate America. I hate Trump and what the country is doing politically too, but there are great things here.
PatrickDenStore
Also mass shootings about twice a day for a reason no one can figure out.
Iblamemyparentstoo
Lax gun laws by republicans
PatrickDenStore
I'd say it goes back to the silly document Americans call the constitution that is treated as a holy text sent from the prophets. In reality it was supposed to be a living document that would change over time but at this point it just cannot be changed even if 95% of the people would want to.
ImFunAtFunerals
you forgot the /s
PatrickDenStore
I really shouldn't need one for that.
ImFunAtFunerals
And schools shouldn't be shot up but here we are. Better safe than sorry eh?
foxpotate
His stench will never leave. Same as hitler with Germany. Mass murder and concentration camps kinda never wash out. Its a permanent stain.
awkungen42
We could actually punish the people who were complicit and it wouldn't last as long, but seeing as we have the absolute weakest no spine liberals in office, nothing will happen. We'd actually need someone willing to take it to ICE and other traitors to actually come out even close to before we started, but as I said, that won't happen.
jaecyk10
Does it? The US has been mass murdering people since before it was even an official country and it hasn't stopped to this day. They put native people and Japanese people in concentration camps in the past and it's scarcely brought up any longer.
GigantamaxHonker
The country is literally formed on graves of natives, which the "americans" in their greed just wanted to kill off so they get their land. usa is formed on greed, mass murder and genocide and rape. This continues to this day. They brainwash their kids from birth to think usa is the best place and so "angelic" and righteous, while being satan spawn and facist greedy fucks. I have no respect america anymore, as kid I did but back then I knew nothing. Now I know and I see the hyporcrisy of usa.
foxpotate
George takei brings up them camps pretty often and the youtuber historians I'm watching at least one of them wind up bumping into the native genocide at least once a fucking week. Kinda can't go strolling down any portion of American history without bumping into it. I call it the "oops I tripped over a skull" effect. And here we are with shit on repeat.
jaecyk10
Oh I'm sure historians will talk about it, but very few people listen to them. I mean, does it have any bearing on domestic policies? I don't think very many elected representatives think about it at all.
foxpotate
Convo is convo. These youtubers have hundreds of thousands of viewers. Politicians are mostly trash. Most people have a choice between a fascist who is trying to erase history as it offends them and then you got the third way assholes who are paid to think and say "that was hundreds of years ago get over it" with the rise of everything left wing of progressive its back on the table to address. just sitting there next to the mashed potatoes like lovecraft's cat. Glaring you down judgementaly.
UserNamesArentEasy
Then we need to handle it like Germany. Where it happened and we need to do better.
lickwidghost
Germany owns it and they're not hiding it. Every kid has to learn in detail exactly what led up to the events in preceding years, what exactly happened during and after the war. Many go on school trips to the facilities and memorials etc. Nazi symbolism is highly illegal.
Americans on the other hand learn about their history through whitewashed and cherrypicked textbooks proving America is always the angelic hero. Heinous people still have statues and namesake public infrastructure.
GroteB
And still their far-right party (AfD) is frighteningly big.
foxpotate
American here, I've heard multiple first hand reports that in some areas of the south its so badly whitewashed kids are just being taught the revolutionary war over and over again each year.
lickwidghost
Well at least they'll get a detailed, balanced understanding from all perspectives........... right?
foxpotate
If the heroic WW2 shit is "too woke" now, we are so far passed fucked its not even funny. if the Alamo is too sketchy to teach because conquest implies stolen land then we are in the pumice stone megastructure tofu dregs of hell.
Gryphonosiris
The Daughters of the Confederacy get a say in the curriculum for Civil War history that is taught in schools in the South.
Daphault1
This will follow us for a long long time.
TheAccursedHamster
Good. It should.
Sakera
As it should. We can never forget what, why, and how it happened. We have to do our best to ensure this dark stain in our history is not repeated.
Goldensands
... it's CURRENT history ffs. Save the empty, obnoxious history for -IF- you get an after
Hangonthere
Yes.
doctorId
Gonna have to leave the windows on the white house open for years to air out the shit smell
TinaEveFox
Every election from now on.
apneax3n0n
elections... lol
SleazyBijou
JFC we said that last time!
NaughtButOne
It doesn't have to. You just have to be thorough in the clean-up. A reckoning has to occur. Every level of government will need to be cleansed; a clear message to the world that the USA is ready to sit at the adult table again.
I want to believe the American people are capable of that. But I won't hold my breath.
tzahtman
Even if we did that it wouldn't change the fact we allowed the circumstances to exist that necessitated a thorough clean-up; rebuilding trust won't happen quickly, if at all.
Chowmeng
I live here, I’ve met a lot of people that live here, there honestly isn’t much hope.
TheFastpaws
I honestly live here and have zip faith in people doing what needs to be done.
NaughtButOne
You can 𝘤𝘩𝘰𝘰𝘴𝘦 to have hope. Doesn't mean it isn't misguided or won't disappoint you, but that's the nature of hope.
GigantamaxHonker
they are not capable of it. if they were, they already would have done something. They are cowards who talk tough and then go shoot kids at school. They are "alpha males" that suck pedophiles dick. Corrupted and fucked up people who have been cancer to earth too long and ruin the earth with fastening speed, since their greed know no bounds.
apneax3n0n
it Will take decades. as a european we Will not trust you anymore . you wasted your Gold Faith credit
punjabberwock
Nah, we deserve it.
JPomNomNom
Italy and France are legendary for awful politicians.
nikinnorway12
ive yet to see a country with no awful politicians
ihavethelowground
They at least know how to deal with them
JPomNomNom
Do they?
ImFunAtFunerals
Do you have an example of that ? I can't find one more recent than 1848 for France but you can easily find ignored referendum and 49.3 to pass legislation without vote.
The people has no more power here than anywhere else.
JPomNomNom
Nicolas Sarkozy faced multiple legal troubles and convictions regarding illegal campaign financing and corruption.Jacques Chirac was convicted of corruption tied to his time as mayor of Paris.François Fillon saw his presidential run implode over allegations of misusing public funds for family employment.Marine Le Pen and other prominent figures have faced legal convictions over the misuse of EU parliamentary funds.
ImFunAtFunerals
And trump is a felon, I don't see your point. Look at how the people in your examples were punished if you want a good laugh.
JPomNomNom
he's not out of office yet jeez give us a chance. stop being such a baby all politic'rs are basterds goddamn. you asked I told smh. you guys are at the same spot on the list for all intents and purposes...
JPomNomNom
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corruption_Perceptions_Index
JPomNomNom
France is ranked 27th, USA 29th and Italy a whopping 52 on the corruption perceptions index. This index measure transparency as a measure of corruption.
ImFunAtFunerals
France is behind the fucking UAE (?!) many other EU members and dropping. Don't get me wrong, I love France and wouldn't leave but we're not even close to great and the people is dumb enough to vote for the RN