why are we still catering to this bad clown show of a country? they are completely broke, drowning in debt, selling I.O.U. US bonds to everybody to keep the lights on & paying the interest (I am not joking, that's real) - they bet their whole economy on statistical "next-word-guessing LLMs" - a factual dead end of AI research that all the godfathers of AI already abandoned - when this whole shitshow exlpodes in the next 12 months - make sure you have popcorn here in Europe - it will be hilarious
I dont generally buy into the whole tin foil hat conspiracy theory stuff, but when i saw the video of the attempt it struck me as odd how limp wristed the secret service agents were in securing trump. Like look at the response to the attempted shooting of Raegan and then look at this incident.
there is a former imgur user who posted a vid on her youtube channel; you see them lowering the flag, 'security' waving their photographers in closer right after to take pics, while everyone else is running away, and Trump has "blood" on the front of his face when it should be behind him & REALLY ignore that, 2 days later while speaking, Trump had no cut, bruise,scar or damage and Republicans didn't mention it...
While that is more likely to be a false flag than the 2020 election being rigged, it's also not a false flag. There was definitely a lot of incompetence beforehand and advantage taking afterwards, but there is no evidence that is was anything except what it was. It makes sense that an administration that traffics in lies and conspiracy theories would get accused of committing their own conspiracy, but it's all still an unfounded conspiracy theory.
I do not like that there are so many leftists who think that Biden's secret service and Biden's FBI collaborated with candidate Donald Trump to fake an assassination attempt, using a patsy known for having bad aim to go on a suicide mission to kill a Trump supporter at a rally before getting killed himself, then flawlessly covering up the whole thing leaving no evidence or leaks.
Agreed, it is disconcerting how many people believe in the absurdities you described and remain willfully ignorant to the verified, irrefutable facts. It's too close to MAGA disassociation, which is uncomfortable to see.
Seen any ear scar?? Where the scar? If Secret service was doing their real job Trump would have been quickly removed from the stage if he wanted or not. Not standing there waiving his fist! And where is the scar??
Why is everyone so desperate to believe it was faked? I hate Trump as much as everyone else, but I don't feel the need to believe every conspiracy theory about him. Thomas Cook tried to assassinate him and missed. If it was faked the Biden justice department would have had a field day with it. Were they all in on the coverup too? It just doesn't add up. More importantly, it doesn't have to. Our side doesn't win or lose points if it was real or fake.
I'd agree it was a real attempt. I do not agree that the blobs reaction was real or that the ear was caused by a bullet. It shouldn't have been hard to get the video from behind him from some person and show the whole thing from the other side, and it was never done. I believe he hit his ear on something else and it wasn't a bullet that caused the damage.
If it wasn't faked, Trump would have not shut up about it. He'd be bringing it up constantly, yet he never talks about it or the other 2 "attempts" ever.
The most likely cause was that it was cut on a Agent's belt buckle/handcuffs/walkietalkie/anything when he was thrown down and dogpiled upon. Then in typical Trump fashion lied about being shot, when the most logical reason being his 80year old thin skin ripped like tissue paper and bled like a stuck pig bc of blood thinners used to treat his hypertension
100% this was a false flag. His family was singled out due to their pro gun stance, he was recruited by the campaign to “protect Trump” and was told to target someone in the stands. When the bullets starts flying he was killed and Trump got his photo opportunity. FBI or Secret Service grabs and destroys his phone (so no evidence), and there is no investigation at all.
Nice story, here is why I don't buy it: what if the kid has a bad day and accidentally hits Trump instead of whomever he was set up to target? That is way too high a risk to take for him.
1) The sources were provided to refute the lie about there not being any investigation. 2) You really think a Republican controlled committees and FBI going to go easy on the Biden admin, especially when it pertains to outlining their failures?!
The sheer fuckup of secret service not clocking the dude AND getting to him when a non law enforcement officer is brandishing an AR. That, in my opinion, is what lends the credence to being made up. Maga mongrels are paper tigers, all sizzle but no steak, and headlines are the only hope of news they can achieve as they never want you to see past the first sentence. Pedo in chief would be constantly hyping it up if true.
We can. There is enough visual evidence to support it. But if you expect this to ever see a full investigation by the FBI and eventually in court; that wont happen for years.
A small nick with a razorblade before the event, closed off with an ice cube or bit of glue is easily opened at the right time. A trick Trump's buddy Vince McMahon could have taught him, in order to have his wife as the Secretary of Education.
But what about the kid? His head got exploded like a melon from the sniper’s return shot.
His parents are not saying anything at all, but would you accept any amount of hush money to agree to have your kid’s head exploded even if the cremation was paid for?
To be fair, I'd personally be rather scared of speaking out against an administration that happily slaughtered my son for a publicity stunt too, hush money or not. And not everyone would be willing to risk their life just to call him out, especially when calling him out has historically been shown to do jack shit.
What makes you think the parents had any foreknowledge that required them to be hushed? There would be no reason for the 'flaggers' to have more than a minimum number involved.
And/or embarrassment, shame, depression. I just read that parents were Licensed Professional Counselors, and left the profession in 2024. It's not hard to imagine how much this must have fucked them up being in mental health and failing to intervene such that they couldn't prevent their own son's death that resulted from a mental health episode.
The duration of what's considered a mental health episode varies based on the disorder and presentation of symptomology, and can be anywhere from a few seconds (e.g.: Tourettes) to a few hours (disassociation, panic attacks), people woth BPD can have a manic epsiode last a few days, commonly weeks, then enter a depressive epsiode for months, possibly a year, Substance abuse, Cyclothemia, and Persistent Depressive disorder can be years long episodes. This is by no means exhaustive but (1/2)
It's hard to explain how, if this was a real assassination attempt, Trump and the SS shuffled back up onto the stage, a crane operator lowered the flag into view, and he fist-pumped for this photo. If Trump was in danger, he would have been taken away from the stage.
When Reagan was shot at, they fucking threw him into a car. That is their one job. No pauses, no photos, nothing -- in those moments, they make the call, not POTUS or anybody. They move without hesitation.
My favorite conspiracy theory around his assassination attempts is that the secret service is all paid by Thiel to let him get killed if something happens, but he doesn't want to hire someone to take him out directly so he's relying on stochastic terrorism to do its thing. But sadly these people are all incompetent so every attempt is just failing and secret service is playing incompetent to hopefully give the shooter a second chance to get the job done. That's also why every attempt has trump
evacuated from the area after everyone else. Just look at how fast the SS moves Vance (Thiel's little puppet) away from the scene and then takes almost ten times as long to get to Trump. These priorities make no sense for either a fake assassination or if the SS was actually paid by trump to keep him safe.
If it was real, we never would have seen him after the shot. In an active shooter situation, the Secret Service should have been completely covering him with their bodies as they hustled him out. Not giving him a chance for a photo op.
You mean the same ear that the doctors notes mentioned a 2cm wound? That's 7/9 of an inch, essentially.
Nothing they tell us is the truth. That's one reason 2026 seems to be flying by. We can't keep up with all the bullshit. They're coming around to the idea that they're going to lose the midterms. And are trying to do everything they can before. And that's IF they don't try to interfere. Or not certify the results.
Which would be a coup, and would likely end in the gallows for a lot of them
lol i'll believe the fact that 2 days later, I saw with my own eyes that was no wound, no scar, no bruising, no damage & no cut, over any 'doctor' Trump uses... LOLLLL but you made me laugh. good one!
Y'all are sounding like Qanon...they threw him down and dogpiled until radio confirmed it was safe to evacuate, which is when he stood up and fist-pumped, and the flag was never lowered as confirmed by footage. https://www.wired.com/story/there-is-no-evid">were/">https://www.wired.com/story/there-is-no-evidence-the-trump-assassination-attempts-were-staged-people-still-believe-they-were/ https://x.com/Brick_Suit/status/2033629646177374290
No no, you see they false flagged an assassination attempt and had the would-be assassin be some gormless white dude who said he'd kill any politician that had an appearance close enough instead of a trans leftist for the fun of it.
I've seen too many of your comments today with you saying either dumb stuff, wrong stuff, or arguing things even after you admit you DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. "He wasn't evacuated" is literally a prime failure of his security team after he was anywhere near gun fire, let alone letting him stand back up and pose.
In those few seconds, there is no fucking way they could determine if it was safe or not. They must assume there is more than one threat. Their job is to get him to safety, not to let him pose for photos.
I've never watched the footage, just seen photos. I just watched it, and yeah you're 100% right. Dogpile, surround him when he gets up, he does his fist bump, and he's off the stage. All that happens in less than 90 seconds.
It was many minutes as the crane operator lowered the flag, they slowly allowed select photographers I to position and then took the photo. Lying doesn't help here when we all have eyes and can watch for ourselves. Quite possible you also saw an edited version, but protocol is to remove the target in case the shooter wasn't working alone. They also told police long before the shooting someone was climbing on the building and they did nothing.
I will just say this: Secret Service protocol 101 (and all protection protocol from the military to private security) is "get the protectee out of the kill zone." The SS is trained to get the President into the limo and get the limo out of the situation. See the Reagan assassination attempt for the most recent example. They are trained to literally carry the president if they need to. Leaving him onstage is not their training, at all, when they don't know if other threats exist.
...what did you think they did. Their primary objective is to provide immediate cover and shield the asset with their bodies if needed (which is what they did) at that moment they initially had no idea where the threat was and held cover piled ontop of him, they were pinned down until the spotters radioed they were clear to evacuate as one threat has been eliminated but unaware if there was more. Read the congress report. There were many failures that day, alot to do with overworked agents
Their primary objective is to get them out. You cannot shield with your body a grenade, ied, or a sufficiently high caliber rifle. This is why the protocol isn't for ss to be human shields but to get them out asap. A 50bmg, which Americans can own, will not be stopped by even 10 layers of secret service Kevlar with secret service member filling in between.
My guy, you're acting like there isnt footage or a congressional report outlining all the failures that occurred that day. One of the BIGGEST failures cited was a culture of complacency that had been slowly developing throughout the years as well as agents being overworked. Sure if any of the hypotheticals you named occurred things would have been a lot different but ultimately things played out exaclty as they did and real-world events arent textbook
I believe this was a false flag… but dude… the big difference here is Reagan was already near a limo and the gunmans location was pretty fucking obvious. When the president is in an open area and the gunmans location has not been identified and the SS limo is not nearby, they are no longer following the guidance from SS 101.
Here's the thing, the limo is always nearby. He was put inside it within a minute, meaning it was right next to the stage. They claimed the delay was "to allow Trump to get his shoes", which makes no sense because he always had his shoes on, and again, their first priority, before literally anything else, is to get the protectee to safety, meaning the limo. The fact that he was allowed to stay on stage at all, let alone do his "fight" photo op, is in my opinion incredibly suspicious.
Ss protocol 102 is if you can't get to immediate safety to hunker down until a path is identified.
They didn't run him out because they didn't know what direction was a safe direction and there was no nearby shelter.
Reports about this have already been done. The venue itself broke numerous SS guidelines because they couldn't control the area but Trump insisted on using it.
They could though. The limo was right offstage. They got him into it a minute and a half later. But why did it take that long, and the excuse "he asked to get his shoes" is not even remotely justified or sufficient. In assassination attempts, the SS is in charge, not the president, and the guy had his shoes on the entire time. The fact that the delay resulted in an "iconic" photo op while also being directly contradictory to SS protocol is, IMO, a huge issue.
Reagan was on his way to a waiting limo, and was tackled through the limo's open door by SS. They initially thought the agent broke his rib as they didnt see any blood, it was only after her coughed up blood that they realize he might have been shot. Completely different scenarios
Isn't the point that they are different? Kennedy didn't get up out the car and attempt to do a photo opp afterwards, they drove away trying to make sure he made it to a safer location. This is different than trump who was ""shot"" then allowed to walk back on stage for a 30 minute photo opp before. Its because Secret service didn't know if there was a second accomplice for kennedy, but they knew the trump assassin was alone because... reasons /conspiracy theory
So we stopped using facts and fabricating whatever we want? He didnt "walk back on stage for a 30 minute photo opp" he went down, stood up and taken off stage in 90secs. If your going to have a conversation please do so in good faith. First hand footage: https://x.com/Brick_Suit/status/2033629646177374290
I'm sure its hyperbole, but regardless, 90 seconds might as well be 30 mins when there's a potential ongoing threat to the president. The fact that at the 30 second mark he wasn't speeding away in his motorcade speaks volumes.
30m was clearly hyperbole. SS are bodyguards, when there's an immediate threat there is zero "wait and see", it's: secure the principal and remove them from the area immediately. You don't wait for /anything/ and anyone who tries to impede them would be stomped with absolute prejudice. 90 seconds is an eternity for an exfiltration for a president. Within 90 seconds the motorcade should be a quarter mile away or the president being loaded into Marine one already, not taken 10ft away.
EroticZombiePants
Just don't feel sorry for the guy that died that day. After all, he had a prime seat for a Trump rally.
ImmaCatImmaSexyCat
I don't think the shooting was fake. But I do agree it's more likely that was fake than the election results.
UnlimitedTrickPony
why are we still catering to this bad clown show of a country? they are completely broke, drowning in debt, selling I.O.U. US bonds to everybody to keep the lights on & paying the interest (I am not joking, that's real) - they bet their whole economy on statistical "next-word-guessing LLMs" - a factual dead end of AI research that all the godfathers of AI already abandoned - when this whole shitshow exlpodes in the next 12 months - make sure you have popcorn here in Europe - it will be hilarious
vintagebroad
All I care about is that the target wasn’t hit between the eyes
bigk001
Trump putting a dab of ketchup between his eyes would have made him look like a married Hindu woman, you big silly.
jridley
The 2020 election WAS rigged, but they didn't go far enough so Biden still won.
PaleChapter
All our elections are rigged. It's called the electoral college.
ArmedandOverclocked
I dont generally buy into the whole tin foil hat conspiracy theory stuff, but when i saw the video of the attempt it struck me as odd how limp wristed the secret service agents were in securing trump. Like look at the response to the attempted shooting of Raegan and then look at this incident.
bigk001
there is a former imgur user who posted a vid on her youtube channel; you see them lowering the flag, 'security' waving their photographers in closer right after to take pics, while everyone else is running away, and Trump has "blood" on the front of his face when it should be behind him & REALLY ignore that, 2 days later while speaking, Trump had no cut, bruise,scar or damage and Republicans didn't mention it...
Ryyyyyyyan
While that is more likely to be a false flag than the 2020 election being rigged, it's also not a false flag. There was definitely a lot of incompetence beforehand and advantage taking afterwards, but there is no evidence that is was anything except what it was. It makes sense that an administration that traffics in lies and conspiracy theories would get accused of committing their own conspiracy, but it's all still an unfounded conspiracy theory.
newwoolmonosta
the US has perpetrated a lot of false flags.
agiar200011
I do not like that there are so many leftists who think that Biden's secret service and Biden's FBI collaborated with candidate Donald Trump to fake an assassination attempt, using a patsy known for having bad aim to go on a suicide mission to kill a Trump supporter at a rally before getting killed himself, then flawlessly covering up the whole thing leaving no evidence or leaks.
spittleteets
Agreed, it is disconcerting how many people believe in the absurdities you described and remain willfully ignorant to the verified, irrefutable facts. It's too close to MAGA disassociation, which is uncomfortable to see.
CobraCommander1981
When there is a legitimate threat to his life, he cowers in a food truck and leaves his cabinet on the block.
ravenousj
Would anyone fist pump or have that face expression after that?
RoombaTheAssaultVacuum
Even uf it was a .22, it would have removed his ear, not left a clean hole. It would be dangling.
moecurlylarry
I always wondered how blood got on the front of his face. Maybe Keith Hernandez could explain.
bigk001
Hernandez? That dun sound like a Mexico alien commie name...
Schtaan
Seen any ear scar?? Where the scar? If Secret service was doing their real job Trump would have been quickly removed from the stage if he wanted or not. Not standing there waiving his fist! And where is the scar??
bigk001
a former imgur user posted a video oin her youtube showing how everything was staged; i will post a link if i can find it!
InfocalypseRising
I got insulted and downvote swarmed so much for saying this was fake at the time
bigk001
well, people be dum.
DocFunkenstein
Great spontaneous camera angles, too.
bigk001
well... 'security' waved 'reporters closer to take pics after the flag was lowered, but ignore that please.
ItsACrazyWorld
Sorry but I gotta, the kid looks like a alien trying to figure out how a human being is suppose to look. Also the shooting was staged.
bottledham
Why is everyone so desperate to believe it was faked? I hate Trump as much as everyone else, but I don't feel the need to believe every conspiracy theory about him. Thomas Cook tried to assassinate him and missed. If it was faked the Biden justice department would have had a field day with it. Were they all in on the coverup too? It just doesn't add up. More importantly, it doesn't have to. Our side doesn't win or lose points if it was real or fake.
fzyflynint
I'd agree it was a real attempt. I do not agree that the blobs reaction was real or that the ear was caused by a bullet. It shouldn't have been hard to get the video from behind him from some person and show the whole thing from the other side, and it was never done. I believe he hit his ear on something else and it wasn't a bullet that caused the damage.
Scahrossar
Fuck off, Dan.
wadatahmydamie
This is some serious QAnon shit
walnutbreath
The assassination attempt was faked and the 2020 election was hacked.
I'd also wager money that both Biden and Kamala knew.
walnutbreath
2024 election. Total brain fart on that one.
wandermanspacebot
Man, I would love to make some wagers with you. Easy money.
walnutbreath
I meant 2024. Complete brain fart moment
DrSchlepenstein
If it wasn't faked, Trump would have not shut up about it. He'd be bringing it up constantly, yet he never talks about it or the other 2 "attempts" ever.
thekadar81
Even Trump is smart enough not to remind people too often that taking him out is an option.
MithridateEupator
IDK about that. People shooting at him might go against the "everyone loves me" internal logic he relies on.
georgejimmydoodle
Because they were not big enough events for his diseased brain to hold onto.
spittleteets
He did today
TyrannusEquus
Because people started asking questions and lies do not hold up to scrutiny
dontrike
He just did it yesterday, first time he's ever brought it up and it's still weird.
TalkingSnake
Remember his “shot” ear?
spittleteets
The most likely cause was that it was cut on a Agent's belt buckle/handcuffs/walkietalkie/anything when he was thrown down and dogpiled upon. Then in typical Trump fashion lied about being shot, when the most logical reason being his 80year old thin skin ripped like tissue paper and bled like a stuck pig bc of blood thinners used to treat his hypertension
BesticlesTesticles
It’s shrapnel from one of the teleprompters. Crooks missed Trump with his first shot but the second bullet shattered one of his glass teleprompters.
spittleteets
OH yeaaaah, forgot about that! Thanks for reminding me, idk why I keep arguing with this BlueAnon crowd
TalkingSnake
There's not even a sign of damage after he took off the ear daiper.
BiggRanger
100% this was a false flag. His family was singled out due to their pro gun stance, he was recruited by the campaign to “protect Trump” and was told to target someone in the stands. When the bullets starts flying he was killed and Trump got his photo opportunity. FBI or Secret Service grabs and destroys his phone (so no evidence), and there is no investigation at all.
zwielichtengelchen
Nice story, here is why I don't buy it: what if the kid has a bad day and accidentally hits Trump instead of whomever he was set up to target? That is way too high a risk to take for him.
ToasterDent
You don't think they gave him actual live rounds do you ? He got blanks.
spittleteets
(1) FBI Investigation Press Page - https://www.fbi.gov/news/press-releases/butler-investigation-updates. (2) House Investigation Report - https://fallon.house.gov/uploadedfiles/tf.finalreport.pdf (3) Senate Homeland Security Report - https://www.hsgac.senate.gov/wp-content/uploads/USSS-Chairman-Report-Final-July-20254.pdf
arcontos
thankfully we investigated ourselves and found no wrongdoing on our part
spittleteets
1) The sources were provided to refute the lie about there not being any investigation. 2) You really think a Republican controlled committees and FBI going to go easy on the Biden admin, especially when it pertains to outlining their failures?!
spittleteets
You sound nuttier than a squirrel's turd...https://www.wired.com/story/there-is-no-evidence-the-trump-assassination-attempts-were-staged-people-still-believe-they-were/
BiggRanger
Fake news media… Let me see what Alex Jones has to say about it.
SilverStarPine
You are brainwashed MAGAt
spittleteets
LMAO ok flat earther
Burntpubes
The sheer fuckup of secret service not clocking the dude AND getting to him when a non law enforcement officer is brandishing an AR. That, in my opinion, is what lends the credence to being made up. Maga mongrels are paper tigers, all sizzle but no steak, and headlines are the only hope of news they can achieve as they never want you to see past the first sentence. Pedo in chief would be constantly hyping it up if true.
BrickSprickly
Well duh if evidence was suppressed and destroyed, then there's no evidence.
spittleteets
(1) FBI Investigation Press Page - https://www.fbi.gov/news/press-releases/butler-investigation-updates. (2) House Investigation Report - https://fallon.house.gov/uploadedfiles/tf.finalreport.pdf (3) Senate Homeland Security Report - https://www.hsgac.senate.gov/wp-content/uploads/USSS-Chairman-Report-Final-July-20254.pdf
wandermanspacebot
And if my mother had wheels, she'd be a bike.
spittleteets
Personally I prefer candidates who post policy, not conspiracy.
secularink
Well said.
Bojovnik84
Well, this isnt a conspiracy at this point, because way too much of it is obvious.
spittleteets
No, but it actually is. https://www.wired.com/story/there-is-no-evidence-the-trump-assassination-attempts-were-staged-people-still-believe-they-were/
wandermanspacebot
If you can't prove it, it's a conspiracy.
thedudeman519
Conspiracy theory*
Conspiracy just means people secretly working toward common goal
Bojovnik84
We can. There is enough visual evidence to support it. But if you expect this to ever see a full investigation by the FBI and eventually in court; that wont happen for years.
wandermanspacebot
Nah.
wandermanspacebot
Source: Trust me, bro
OtisTDrunk
Pentjotal
https://abc6onyourside.com/news/nation-world/anonymous-donor-paid-for-the-body-of-trumps-would-be-assassin-to-be-cremated-report-chuck-grassley-louisiana-gop
wandermanspacebot
Primary source is the New York Post, which is a ridiculous tabloid that loves conspiracy theories.
spattr
I've seen the footage & I believe Trump really was splashed with ketchup. Probably fancy ketchup. Always the best for Mary Trump's boy.
OnyxTurret
A small nick with a razorblade before the event, closed off with an ice cube or bit of glue is easily opened at the right time. A trick Trump's buddy Vince McMahon could have taught him, in order to have his wife as the Secretary of Education.
bigk001
& please ignore that his ear was 100% fine 2 days later while speaking, with no scars, bruising, cuts, trace of damage...
vtlmks
Directly from the McDonalds Ketchup pump
jjw9
But what about the kid? His head got exploded like a melon from the sniper’s return shot.
His parents are not saying anything at all, but would you accept any amount of hush money to agree to have your kid’s head exploded even if the cremation was paid for?
LiquidCorundum
To be fair, I'd personally be rather scared of speaking out against an administration that happily slaughtered my son for a publicity stunt too, hush money or not. And not everyone would be willing to risk their life just to call him out, especially when calling him out has historically been shown to do jack shit.
Niagaran
What makes you think the parents had any foreknowledge that required them to be hushed? There would be no reason for the 'flaggers' to have more than a minimum number involved.
Jamesstin
fear.
spittleteets
And/or embarrassment, shame, depression. I just read that parents were Licensed Professional Counselors, and left the profession in 2024. It's not hard to imagine how much this must have fucked them up being in mental health and failing to intervene such that they couldn't prevent their own son's death that resulted from a mental health episode.
Jamesstin
Not really sure when something like this stops/starts being a mental health episode
spittleteets
The duration of what's considered a mental health episode varies based on the disorder and presentation of symptomology, and can be anywhere from a few seconds (e.g.: Tourettes) to a few hours (disassociation, panic attacks), people woth BPD can have a manic epsiode last a few days, commonly weeks, then enter a depressive epsiode for months, possibly a year, Substance abuse, Cyclothemia, and Persistent Depressive disorder can be years long episodes. This is by no means exhaustive but (1/2)
ps238principal
It's hard to explain how, if this was a real assassination attempt, Trump and the SS shuffled back up onto the stage, a crane operator lowered the flag into view, and he fist-pumped for this photo. If Trump was in danger, he would have been taken away from the stage.
Niagaran
When Reagan was shot at, they fucking threw him into a car. That is their one job. No pauses, no photos, nothing -- in those moments, they make the call, not POTUS or anybody. They move without hesitation.
StunttheRunt
If real how come he didn't shit himself (he probably already had, pre false assassination)
neithermenoryou
My favorite conspiracy theory around his assassination attempts is that the secret service is all paid by Thiel to let him get killed if something happens, but he doesn't want to hire someone to take him out directly so he's relying on stochastic terrorism to do its thing. But sadly these people are all incompetent so every attempt is just failing and secret service is playing incompetent to hopefully give the shooter a second chance to get the job done. That's also why every attempt has trump
neithermenoryou
evacuated from the area after everyone else. Just look at how fast the SS moves Vance (Thiel's little puppet) away from the scene and then takes almost ten times as long to get to Trump. These priorities make no sense for either a fake assassination or if the SS was actually paid by trump to keep him safe.
LurkingSarcasm
They realized he missed the first time
HandoB4Javert
Sixsystems
They did tackle him pretty hard, lost his shoe lifts lol
murderdactyl
Nah he wears his shoes 3 sizes too big, the same as he ordered for all his buddies, lucky they stayed on walking up the stage
Kodan00
heh, "secret service". That *unfortunately* took a second.
Fractallergy
Hanlon's Razor. The only SS on Trump's detail are sycophants scared to manhandle Dear Leader even if its to protect his life.
ebethron
It's similar to how they're now pulling a weekend at Bernie's with Mitch McConnell...
backrideup9
I want to know more about the firefighter who actually died. I bet there's something in his past that sheds some light on the story.
akafluffy
his FIRST words after the shots were: Give me back my shoes.
ThatQuietlySmirking
If it was real, we never would have seen him after the shot. In an active shooter situation, the Secret Service should have been completely covering him with their bodies as they hustled him out. Not giving him a chance for a photo op.
Trunkmonkay
Me when I'm a schitzo who for some reason thinks that nobody on earth would want to kill the most hated man in America
freakdiablo
The SS agents looked like they were just told to play along 30 seconds beforehand. Zero time to practice or even ask WTF.
Artoris
Don't forget about the magical ear that healed perfectly on its own.
Ac1dBurn72
You mean the same ear that the doctors notes mentioned a 2cm wound? That's 7/9 of an inch, essentially.
Nothing they tell us is the truth. That's one reason 2026 seems to be flying by. We can't keep up with all the bullshit. They're coming around to the idea that they're going to lose the midterms. And are trying to do everything they can before. And that's IF they don't try to interfere. Or not certify the results.
Which would be a coup, and would likely end in the gallows for a lot of them
bigk001
lol i'll believe the fact that 2 days later, I saw with my own eyes that was no wound, no scar, no bruising, no damage & no cut, over any 'doctor' Trump uses... LOLLLL but you made me laugh. good one!
Uselesstoy
If..... he's def doing it.. if only to stay un-impeached..
This Nov we are gonna see some shit.
bigk001
i said in 2016: Trump wants to die in office & not prison... i've been right for 10+ years so far...
spittleteets
Y'all are sounding like Qanon...they threw him down and dogpiled until radio confirmed it was safe to evacuate, which is when he stood up and fist-pumped, and the flag was never lowered as confirmed by footage.
https://www.wired.com/story/there-is-no-evid">were/">https://www.wired.com/story/there-is-no-evidence-the-trump-assassination-attempts-were-staged-people-still-believe-they-were/
https://x.com/Brick_Suit/status/2033629646177374290
Kalli
No no, you see they false flagged an assassination attempt and had the would-be assassin be some gormless white dude who said he'd kill any politician that had an appearance close enough instead of a trans leftist for the fun of it.
420supercoolusername69
BlueAnon
DemSumBigAssRidges
I've seen too many of your comments today with you saying either dumb stuff, wrong stuff, or arguing things even after you admit you DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. "He wasn't evacuated" is literally a prime failure of his security team after he was anywhere near gun fire, let alone letting him stand back up and pose.
Niagaran
In those few seconds, there is no fucking way they could determine if it was safe or not. They must assume there is more than one threat. Their job is to get him to safety, not to let him pose for photos.
OSRSSailing
I've never watched the footage, just seen photos. I just watched it, and yeah you're 100% right. Dogpile, surround him when he gets up, he does his fist bump, and he's off the stage. All that happens in less than 90 seconds.
Toqom
It was many minutes as the crane operator lowered the flag, they slowly allowed select photographers I to position and then took the photo. Lying doesn't help here when we all have eyes and can watch for ourselves. Quite possible you also saw an edited version, but protocol is to remove the target in case the shooter wasn't working alone. They also told police long before the shooting someone was climbing on the building and they did nothing.
SilverStarPine
False, they allowed photographers to get pictures.
PinkyTheUnicorn2
I will just say this: Secret Service protocol 101 (and all protection protocol from the military to private security) is "get the protectee out of the kill zone." The SS is trained to get the President into the limo and get the limo out of the situation. See the Reagan assassination attempt for the most recent example. They are trained to literally carry the president if they need to. Leaving him onstage is not their training, at all, when they don't know if other threats exist.
spittleteets
...what did you think they did. Their primary objective is to provide immediate cover and shield the asset with their bodies if needed (which is what they did) at that moment they initially had no idea where the threat was and held cover piled ontop of him, they were pinned down until the spotters radioed they were clear to evacuate as one threat has been eliminated but unaware if there was more. Read the congress report. There were many failures that day, alot to do with overworked agents
Maverickaura
Their primary objective is to get them out. You cannot shield with your body a grenade, ied, or a sufficiently high caliber rifle. This is why the protocol isn't for ss to be human shields but to get them out asap. A 50bmg, which Americans can own, will not be stopped by even 10 layers of secret service Kevlar with secret service member filling in between.
spittleteets
My guy, you're acting like there isnt footage or a congressional report outlining all the failures that occurred that day. One of the BIGGEST failures cited was a culture of complacency that had been slowly developing throughout the years as well as agents being overworked. Sure if any of the hypotheticals you named occurred things would have been a lot different but ultimately things played out exaclty as they did and real-world events arent textbook
ahernandez
I believe this was a false flag… but dude… the big difference here is Reagan was already near a limo and the gunmans location was pretty fucking obvious. When the president is in an open area and the gunmans location has not been identified and the SS limo is not nearby, they are no longer following the guidance from SS 101.
PinkyTheUnicorn2
Here's the thing, the limo is always nearby. He was put inside it within a minute, meaning it was right next to the stage. They claimed the delay was "to allow Trump to get his shoes", which makes no sense because he always had his shoes on, and again, their first priority, before literally anything else, is to get the protectee to safety, meaning the limo. The fact that he was allowed to stay on stage at all, let alone do his "fight" photo op, is in my opinion incredibly suspicious.
mrthewhitee
Ss protocol 102 is if you can't get to immediate safety to hunker down until a path is identified.
They didn't run him out because they didn't know what direction was a safe direction and there was no nearby shelter.
Reports about this have already been done. The venue itself broke numerous SS guidelines because they couldn't control the area but Trump insisted on using it.
spittleteets
Omg thank you! Finally, another voice of rational thinking, logic, and reason! I was beginning to think I was alone out here!! Haha
PinkyTheUnicorn2
They could though. The limo was right offstage. They got him into it a minute and a half later. But why did it take that long, and the excuse "he asked to get his shoes" is not even remotely justified or sufficient. In assassination attempts, the SS is in charge, not the president, and the guy had his shoes on the entire time. The fact that the delay resulted in an "iconic" photo op while also being directly contradictory to SS protocol is, IMO, a huge issue.
endem1c
Yeah, I read about the assassination attempt on Regan. They got him out of there before he realized he'd actually been shot.
spittleteets
Reagan was on his way to a waiting limo, and was tackled through the limo's open door by SS. They initially thought the agent broke his rib as they didnt see any blood, it was only after her coughed up blood that they realize he might have been shot. Completely different scenarios
OnlyWantToSayOneThing
Isn't the point that they are different? Kennedy didn't get up out the car and attempt to do a photo opp afterwards, they drove away trying to make sure he made it to a safer location. This is different than trump who was ""shot"" then allowed to walk back on stage for a 30 minute photo opp before. Its because Secret service didn't know if there was a second accomplice for kennedy, but they knew the trump assassin was alone because... reasons /conspiracy theory
spittleteets
So we stopped using facts and fabricating whatever we want? He didnt "walk back on stage for a 30 minute photo opp" he went down, stood up and taken off stage in 90secs. If your going to have a conversation please do so in good faith. First hand footage: https://x.com/Brick_Suit/status/2033629646177374290
Starbolt81
I'm sure its hyperbole, but regardless, 90 seconds might as well be 30 mins when there's a potential ongoing threat to the president. The fact that at the 30 second mark he wasn't speeding away in his motorcade speaks volumes.
kershaw
Do you know how much shooting you can do in 90 seconds?
johnblood616
Using Twitter as your source. Maga trash
ActualLazyEnhancedXenos
30m was clearly hyperbole. SS are bodyguards, when there's an immediate threat there is zero "wait and see", it's: secure the principal and remove them from the area immediately. You don't wait for /anything/ and anyone who tries to impede them would be stomped with absolute prejudice. 90 seconds is an eternity for an exfiltration for a president. Within 90 seconds the motorcade should be a quarter mile away or the president being loaded into Marine one already, not taken 10ft away.