we loathed trumpery because he is a child rapist conman stealing our tax money while destabilizing the world to increase profit for the people sacrificing the ecosystems of the planet.
I do loathe America. I was taught we were something we aren’t. I thought we defended truth, and freedom. There’s none of that to be had here. We’ve been making life harder for people around the world the entire time. We don’t even give a fuck about each other. Even in this small pond of an Imgur community we can see the oozing malice of contemporary American society. This place is slave plantation with a company store. A real shit hole.
This is real patriotism. If you don't loathe your country with every fiber of your being, you still need to educate yourself on its history and current functionality.
LOL this is what projection looks like: claiming to love America while supporting a leader who daily acts in opposition to every stated value in its founding documents.
Once again, you have to run a translation algorithm on this talk. 'America' does not mean 'The United States of America' here. It means 'The People in America Who Agree With Me.' Or, as Republicans put it, "Real America."
They've been crafting this narrative for decades now, and the tree is finally mature. Only the 'right' is American now. Everything else is weakness, foreign, invasive, destructive, and hates them.
This actually all makes sense. People like the OP think Obama hated America because he admitted we had social injustice in our history. They love Trump because he denies we ever committed social injustice.
loathed america? Obama left nation at one of the highest points in history of the nation. He was respected by world leaders. Trump? he only sees profit & leaving his name on everything. Hes a joke across the world.
Imafine being confronted with evidence that you shouldn't venerate a war criminal and attempting to dismiss it as a "contrarian shitpost" like people aren't blindly defending Obama in this exact thread /gallery/EFlXlKu/comment/2503164783
I’ve never heard anyone say Obama was “scandal free”. I have, however, heard people mention that Obama wasn’t a traitor, rapist, pedophile, or felon. Boxes that the orange pedophile check quite well.
Yep. Commited horrible acts of war, but that's not much of a standout in terms of complaints about US presidents. You can point to almost every single president in the last hundred years or more and find evidence of that fallacy.
He shed tears over children being gunned down in school instead of saying "move on" or "they're a fact of life." There was at least a shred of compassion bouncing around in there instead of being filled to the brim with contempt and self obsession.
Look, I'm very on the left, and this dude is probably a racist, but I was born in 1982 and I can absolutely still hate Reagan without it being because of prejudice.
Your disapproval of Obama is probably like my disapproval of Bush senior. My disapproval of Trump is like your disapproval of Mao Zedong crossed with Bernie Madoff.
The worst part about Charlie Kirk's assassination is his wife and this kid trying to fill the idiot vacuum left with Charlie's death. Except this kid is worse than Charlie only because he's trying to be an actively worse person than Charlie could've ever dreamt of in an attempt to stand out amongst all the other racists trying to fill Charlie Kirk's spot. Man, I miss Charlie Kirk at this point, at least we could make memes about his tiny face.
Back then I had a respected veterinarian work colleague in Australia tell me straight faced that Obama was the actual antichrist. Like he truly believe it, not even American, this dude was scared. The algorithm was already doing it’s thing back then
Don't forget about the time he tried to dip a *very large* chocolate chip cookie into a glass of milk -- though, admittedly, he *did* say "Thanks, Obama!" when that didn't work.
WHAT THE FUCK?! Not like a delicious honey Dijon he didn't go as far as to commit THAT type of atrocity did he?! Speaking of which i need to go get some for my grocery brand shit turkey sandwiches since the halfway decent stuff is up 40% bc MERICAAAA
He did! Frankly I am appalled the good lord didn't strike him down on the spot for that affront!
Seriously though, it was always just racism. 100%. Never believe a word from them them when they start talking about some policy or other, that is bullshit, they were mad about the color of that man's skin. That is it. Fucking assholes.
D/L/L hate what America was and want it to be something better and more fulfilling of its' promises - land of the free, home of the brave, liberty, fraternity, equality, all those things it's historically been absolute shit at upholding. Republicans hate what it's become and becoming and want to go back to their "good old days" of legalized white supremacy, institutionalized misogyny [hello, women couldn't hold a credit card in their own name before 1974] and open bigotry.
Who wants to rewrite the entire constitution? The guy who keeps going to court for violating the constitution on the regular? The guy 22 states got a coordinated constitutional challenge organized against? That stupid MFer?
The difference is people that believe in the brand of America versus the legacy of America. Our legacy is revolution, slavery, civil war, expansionism, exceptionalism, and hegemony. Our brand is freedom, justice, welcoming the tired, hungry, and poor to our streets paved with gold. We hate that our legacy isn't living up to our branding.
Because we love the people of the country more than the government of the country, and think it’s important that we understand the mistakes of past and present so that the country can improve for as many people as possible.
Loving an imaginary version of a country isn’t real love anyhow.
People wearing flag print everything are showing their lack of patriotism. Actual patriots don't go around trying to prove their patriotism with superficial bullshit. Real patriots call Jan. 6 2021 what it was, an insurrection and attempted coup by the loser of that election. Real patriots don't want an authoritarian felon president who dodged the draft 4 times. Put. The. Kool-aid. Down!
Changing the Constitution is in the Constitution, idiot. And the Constitution itself did not comply with the requirements in the Articles of Confederation to change the structure of the government, but that was okay because self-determination means not being bound by strict limitations of whatever the current written document says is required to replace it.
1) "loving your country" doesn't mean "accepting every aspect of it and the government unconditionally". Refusing to sly the flag is a way of saying that you don't support the actions of the government. 2) "claim FF were evil" is a very weird way of saying "acknowledging that they weren't saints". Sure, they had some good ideas, but we can't keep living in the world of "what would they do?" When they were living in a world of slavery and misogyny.
The biggest and most important thing that Rapeublicans always OVER-fuckin-LOOK is that as good or bad as the Founding Fathers were and what great ideas they had (mostly taken from Natives, about "Democracy;" native Americans didn't just teach colonial invaders how to survive, but also taught them about their Democratic governing methods that were "Socially," beneficial) they ALL knew or agreed that they weren't perfect and didn't know everything, thus the ability to update through Amendments.
3) the only reason they say that blue states should secede is due to the fact that blue states are oftentimes providing the most funds for the country, have some of the highest rates of education, and anything else good while the country seems to cater to red states while villainizing blue states. It's basically commenting "so you think you could survive without us?"
All of those are symptoms of protest against the current lawless corrupt power hungry bullshit that is happening. You're a bot or your head is so far up your ass you can see your breakfast. "they"... you're gross. We're all Americans. (I historically have not voted Democrat.)
As a non-American conservative, let's be very clear here. Being somewhat conservative or traditionalist isn't bad. Social norms are changing at an unparalleled rate. It's okay not to feel like you belong. A lot of people feel that way. But that doesn't mean your should act out against anyone different. The USA was the quintessential country of freedom: oppressed in your own country? Come enjoy freedom! That's now gone, and you're now as bad as Afghanistan or Congo as far as freedom goes.
Do recognize that there are republicans calling for cession, stripping of the Bill of Rights, and execution of democrats? This isn't a 'but they do it too', I just want to establish a baseline here.
Why would anyone want to see states leave the union is an easy one: because the shittiest states are dragging the rest of us down, and we want them to have all the freedom they want to be just as dumb and horrible as they want, and then maybe, just maybe, they'll figure out they've been generarionally, institutionally scammed for more than 150 years. Or they can become a Christian Afghanistan.
The reddest red state is 40% Democrat and the bluest blue state is 40% Republican. Look up the clusterfuk the partition of India and Pakistan was and multiply it by 1000. You don’t want that.
4) the constitution was MEANT to be rewritten as society changed. It's a relic of the past and something needs to change to prevent the shit that's happening right now from continuing to happen. Of course they would call for a rewrite. 3) they sympathize because a) it's a form of protest (or are you against protesting now?) and b) they know that the government and goo supporters keep treating foreigners bad...so why wouldn't they boo the country?
The language used in both is so flowery and arcane that you could and several presidents have, driven entire armoured divisions through its loopholes.
You need a functioning document, not a page of angsty poetry using 300 year old verbage. The easiest example is the 2nd amendment, "Militia", at the time that was written the militia was an arm of the state, the governor called it up and chose its commander.
So everyone with a gun in the US has it based on a system that no longer exists and a context that will almost certainly never exist again, namely a ground invasion of the United States.
So you say you have them to defend yourself against government overreach, okay, except you dont, the government has been overreaching for decades in every arena from foreign policy to healthcare to privacy.
According to some constitutional scholars, there is no "right to privacy" in the constitution, and 2/
The kind of name you give your kid when your only goal in life is to one-up people, such as by giving your kid a ridiculous name to make sure nobody else has it
Also, I see tgat this guy has opinions so far right wing, he's about to fall out of the theater window entirely. Then I look at his photo and my heart melts "Aw, Baby Hitler is giving interviews like he's people. So adorbs!"
I was going to write a comment about how both presidents did bad things even if not equally bad and should be loathed, but the distinction is pointless here. This isn't a conversation you can have with these people. If they aren't some paid disruptor running accounts from a foreign country then they are beyond reasoning with. I'm fucking neanderthal pilled now, beat these fucks with a club until the brain damage fixes them or kills them so that civilized society can resume.
Also if you dare point out all the war crimes Obama perpetrated, and that this makes him not a good person and you shouldn't venerate him, liberals on this site get reeeeeeeally mad
Obama isn't/wasn't perfect. But he had class, intellect, an adult level of emotional regulation, a sense of humor, and accepted that criticism comes with the job. Trump is a lying, thieving, vicious, vindictive, 34X convicted felon, compulsive liar and rapist of both children and women with the emotional regulation of a 2 year old. I really don't know where you'd even begn to compare.
"If you kill a killer the number of killers remains the same!" Which is ridiculous. I would intend to kill way more than one killer, and more importantly all of the innocent people those killers would go on to kill will get to live instead. Meanwhile, MAGA wants to kill people because they think 'uncivilized' people - as defined by unchosen traits like race, orientation, and mental conditions - will ruin civilization. I want to kill MAGA because they want to kill people by choice. Very different
But you aren't actually going to kill anyone, are you? You'll just keep fantasizing about killing people, while you walk by those same people every day and do nothing.
Just like 99% of MAGAts. Unlike them however, I'm not going to take out my frustration - that I'm too much of a pussy to be a mass murderer for my ideology - by advocating for a government that will kill or otherwise remove the people that I don't like for me. At least, not outside of basic crime and punishment levels of protecting the public. Things like actually charging cops for brutality and investigating people making credible threats. The hate of the otherwise tolerant is different.
That's correct, they are already absolutely certain that the only way to exist going forward is to make choices that spite and destroy us even if it destroys themselves too. The mistake made is not matching that intensity before they got this far. It doesn't matter if we both earnestly believe the things we support are right or good within whatever context and circumstances led us to believe those things.
We beat them until the scars on history ensure nobody behaves like them again.
But you won't do that. This is a macho murder fantasy at best, but back in reality Trump will die of old age, his coalition will drift apart, and you will keep posting your school-shooter-level comments while changing nothing. What's the point?
Macho murder fantasy? school-shooter-level comments? Put away the armchair Dr. Phil.
It's venting, it's exhaustion. My fucking opener was about being "neanderthal pilled" for a stupid grug joke. Beat them in elections, beat them in social inertia, hell maybe even start organizing to uproot and change the system that has clearly failed us so utterly so we can render these people politically irrelevant. The only ones who need a reality check believe we can ever return to a past normal.
Naw, the maga/nazi/epstein crowd of predators broke the social contract first. They’ve made sure that everyone knows what they intend for anyone that isn’t one of them. It’s self-defense for pretty much everyone that isn’t them at this point. No HONEST jury’s going to find otherwise.
It would be self defense to kill 77 million people? I don’t think that would hold up in court, but I suppose you would just kill the jury if they convicted you
Wow, you are really good at gymnastics. And paranoid. Just because you think you deserve someone coming after you, doesn’t mean they will. But when you finally do what your heroes have been doing to innocent people in the streets, don’t count on your victims just recording it and hoping justice is served. They will be ready. And 77 million people might have been racist women haters a while back, but they can’t all have been pedos. You don’t have enough friends to threaten people anymore.
Except for the devastating economic impact, what's the difference between 77 and 77 million? If 77 people were threatening the existence of 8,000 people, would it be self-defense to kill them? If 7 threatened 800, same question. What about 1 threatening 80. Does morality scale?
I don't think killing our way to utopia is possible, especially if the qualifier for the death penalty is who someone voted for. But it seems you disagree. How many people are you willing to kill to make your "perfect society"?
It's not tone policing to point out that "Society would be great if I could kill all the bad people" is not a political position that fights oppression. If you think like that, you aren't a progressive.
It's incredible that I called what you're doing reductive tone policing and then you put, in quotes, a complete reduction of the point you originally responded to. Like what you're doing is, objectively, reductive tone policing.
It really isn't, but another commenter on here has already wished for my death twice so I feel pretty confident in my assertion that putting a progressive veneer on bloodlust doesn't improve the bloodlust meaningfully.
somewhatparanoidpanda
You loath Obama based on what trump says, I hate trump based on what trump says… huh, it is the same reason
B0ardski
we loathed trumpery because he is a child rapist conman stealing our tax money while destabilizing the world to increase profit for the people sacrificing the ecosystems of the planet.
BlueDsc
There are legitimate reasons to criticize Obama. I guarantee the overgrown fetus here knows absolutely none of them.
johnathanrossshoulddie
I don't know who the fuck Brylcreem Handjob is but whoever is funding him probably needs a hands-on tour of woodchipper technology
Eyeetsass
I do loathe America. I was taught we were something we aren’t. I thought we defended truth, and freedom. There’s none of that to be had here. We’ve been making life harder for people around the world the entire time. We don’t even give a fuck about each other. Even in this small pond of an Imgur community we can see the oozing malice of contemporary American society. This place is slave plantation with a company store. A real shit hole.
Margrave9000
This is real patriotism. If you don't loathe your country with every fiber of your being, you still need to educate yourself on its history and current functionality.
intaglioguy
You loathed Obama because you're a racist POS. We loathe Trump because him being a racist POS is the least of his faults.
ropetopus
LOL this is what projection looks like: claiming to love America while supporting a leader who daily acts in opposition to every stated value in its founding documents.
haileris23
Shut the fuck up, Brilyn. You Hobbit-named sack of cottage cheese.
Andunistar
Keep the hobbits out of this.
monkeyfly
Neither Hobbits nor cottage cheese did anything to be caught up in that insult. Except maybe those Sackville monsters.
SalmonMax
Once again, you have to run a translation algorithm on this talk. 'America' does not mean 'The United States of America' here. It means 'The People in America Who Agree With Me.' Or, as Republicans put it, "Real America."
They've been crafting this narrative for decades now, and the tree is finally mature. Only the 'right' is American now. Everything else is weakness, foreign, invasive, destructive, and hates them.
cdlong
Good explanation.
FreePalestineAndTheWorldFromIsrael
I loathed Obama for his actions, not his identity.
Nanananahatman
Brilyn is an idiot, but I hate Reagan and he was out of office before I was born. You CAN be aware enough to do something like that. Brilyn just isn't
SteveD31415
This actually all makes sense. People like the OP think Obama hated America because he admitted we had social injustice in our history. They love Trump because he denies we ever committed social injustice.
hotaru251
loathed america? Obama left nation at one of the highest points in history of the nation. He was respected by world leaders.
Trump? he only sees profit & leaving his name on everything. Hes a joke across the world.
urusername2
And, WHEN did he loathe America? What did he do? Racist pig!
kInADress
Nah I just don't like stupid vile pedo rapists
drduffer
I loved and continue to love Obama because he led with gravitas and dignity, rather than acting like a narcissistic and demented toddler.
CPTBRUMBL3Z
No, you loathed Obama because he was black. We loathe Trump because he's a fraud, grifter, traitor, rapist, pdfile, fascist, dictator, failure, corrupt, criminal, incompetent, liar, narcissist, coward, weak, loser, stupid, petty, vindictive, cruel, malicious, malignant, cancerous, evil, selfish, corrosive, destructive, hateful, crass, petulant, virulent, toxic, spineless, greedy, immoral, un-American, bigot, racist, xenophobe, transphobe, homophobe, deranged, delusional, demented, piece of shit.
CPTBRUMBL3Z
... and I may have missed a few.
cearn
You can probably add every negative word in the English language.
A person without a single redeemable trait; the sum of all human flaws. It's almost impressive when you think about it.
TheWombatStrikesAgain
...warmongering, blackmailing, reactionary, whining, murderous, ethnocentric, proudly ignorant, loud, bigheaded, self-centered, callous, lecherous, imperialist, thieving, hatemongering, anti-science, anti-intellectual, emotionally immature, teenage-level edgy, bloodthirsty, uncultivated, vain, boastful, arrogant, sexist...
Bizarkly
...and you both missed 'venal' -- but *close enough*! (For those who don't know the word: https://www.google.com/search?q=define+venal).
Scezumin
i assumed you ran out of characters
omgzwtfs
Tribal thinking level 100
TheWombatStrikesAgain
More like tribal reflexes. There was no thinking involved.
blaghart
Tribal thinking 102 is when people insist the war criminal who slaughtered children was "scandal free" https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2012/05/under-obama-men-killed-by-drones-are-presumed-to-be-terrorists/257749/
UmmonPrime
I've read your past comments. This is your normal contrary shit posting. Yes, all humans suck, some just like making things suck even more. Good job
blaghart
Imafine being confronted with evidence that you shouldn't venerate a war criminal and attempting to dismiss it as a "contrarian shitpost" like people aren't blindly defending Obama in this exact thread /gallery/EFlXlKu/comment/2503164783
delightfullyhardenthusiast
I’ve never heard anyone say Obama was “scandal free”. I have, however, heard people mention that Obama wasn’t a traitor, rapist, pedophile, or felon. Boxes that the orange pedophile check quite well.
BorkSamson
Yeah but repugnicunts dont consider those dealbreakers. They only consider being nonwhite a deal breaker.
First guy: scandals, but not nearly on the same league. Black.
Second guy: Massive scandals, felonies, child grape.
White
And youre mad at the first guy? Just say youre racist. Its so much faster and we can get to not giving a fuck what you have to say quicker.
GentryFriedRichFillets
Yep. Commited horrible acts of war, but that's not much of a standout in terms of complaints about US presidents. You can point to almost every single president in the last hundred years or more and find evidence of that fallacy.
He shed tears over children being gunned down in school instead of saying "move on" or "they're a fact of life." There was at least a shred of compassion bouncing around in there instead of being filled to the brim with contempt and self obsession.
thanatos777
Look, I'm very on the left, and this dude is probably a racist, but I was born in 1982 and I can absolutely still hate Reagan without it being because of prejudice.
DiracsDelta
Your disapproval of Obama is probably like my disapproval of Bush senior. My disapproval of Trump is like your disapproval of Mao Zedong crossed with Bernie Madoff.
ImmaCatImmaSexyCat
You hate Obama because he's left-wing (and black). I hate Obama because he's right-wing. We are not the same.
CrazyGingerAle
oh yes Obama who literally pulled us out of a reccession and had 8 years to destroy America if that was his plan he really messed up
doodlydoofus
The worst part about Charlie Kirk's assassination is his wife and this kid trying to fill the idiot vacuum left with Charlie's death. Except this kid is worse than Charlie only because he's trying to be an actively worse person than Charlie could've ever dreamt of in an attempt to stand out amongst all the other racists trying to fill Charlie Kirk's spot. Man, I miss Charlie Kirk at this point, at least we could make memes about his tiny face.
Arracor
Now we can make memes about his tiny neck.
BruhForScale
Back then I had a respected veterinarian work colleague in Australia tell me straight faced that Obama was the actual antichrist. Like he truly believe it, not even American, this dude was scared. The algorithm was already doing it’s thing back then
duktayp
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philmoregraves
How did obama loathe america? Ohhhh that's right. I forgot about the tan suit
ImmaCatImmaSexyCat
And the tan skin.
Bizarkly
Don't forget about the time he tried to dip a *very large* chocolate chip cookie into a glass of milk -- though, admittedly, he *did* say "Thanks, Obama!" when that didn't work.
philmoregraves
May out ancestors forgive us for the travesty of larger cookies
idiotsonfire
He was black and got elected President. That's how.
philmoregraves
WHAT?!?! THE OUTRAGE!!! Aren't black men supposed to be poster children for gang violence and the war on drugs?! How dare he /s
1eventHorizon9
He also asked for good mustard! The GALL of that man!
philmoregraves
WHAT THE FUCK?! Not like a delicious honey Dijon he didn't go as far as to commit THAT type of atrocity did he?! Speaking of which i need to go get some for my grocery brand shit turkey sandwiches since the halfway decent stuff is up 40% bc MERICAAAA
1eventHorizon9
He did! Frankly I am appalled the good lord didn't strike him down on the spot for that affront!
Seriously though, it was always just racism. 100%. Never believe a word from them them when they start talking about some policy or other, that is bullshit, they were mad about the color of that man's skin. That is it. Fucking assholes.
dogfavoriter
The whole "Democrats/liberals/leftists just hate America" thing is so fucking exhausting.
rossimus
Every accusation is a confession
hyperchondriac
They have to shorten any argument to about ten words or less, or their audience gets confused. which doesn't give them a lot of room to work.
Gotta keep it simple for the stupids.
WibblyWobblyTimeyWimeyFox
D/L/L hate what America was and want it to be something better and more fulfilling of its' promises - land of the free, home of the brave, liberty, fraternity, equality, all those things it's historically been absolute shit at upholding. Republicans hate what it's become and becoming and want to go back to their "good old days" of legalized white supremacy, institutionalized misogyny [hello, women couldn't hold a credit card in their own name before 1974] and open bigotry.
vader200031415
Actually we love America, that is why we distain Trump. Your wires are crossed. When you fix that, you won't be in a cult or exhausted.
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akafluffy
Also, didn't Texans threaten to secede from the union during Biden's presidency? I don't know how much more fuck the USA you want than "aight, we out"
akafluffy
you didn't even see FJB, you saw let's go Brandon because they're chickenshits who think they're clever enough to loophole patriotism somehow.
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akafluffy
Who wants to rewrite the entire constitution? The guy who keeps going to court for violating the constitution on the regular? The guy 22 states got a coordinated constitutional challenge organized against? That stupid MFer?
crazyspelling
The difference is people that believe in the brand of America versus the legacy of America. Our legacy is revolution, slavery, civil war, expansionism, exceptionalism, and hegemony. Our brand is freedom, justice, welcoming the tired, hungry, and poor to our streets paved with gold. We hate that our legacy isn't living up to our branding.
couldyounot123
Lol a cascade of stupid questions, impreessive
ropetopus
Because we love the people of the country more than the government of the country, and think it’s important that we understand the mistakes of past and present so that the country can improve for as many people as possible.
Loving an imaginary version of a country isn’t real love anyhow.
RevolutionOnHerLips
Right. Blindly loving a country that exploits you isn't much different from believing the stripper really likes you.
GoSibi
It's not patriotism it's nationalism which is horrible.
Lovingimpaler
People wearing flag print everything are showing their lack of patriotism. Actual patriots don't go around trying to prove their patriotism with superficial bullshit. Real patriots call Jan. 6 2021 what it was, an insurrection and attempted coup by the loser of that election. Real patriots don't want an authoritarian felon president who dodged the draft 4 times. Put. The. Kool-aid. Down!
thornus67
Changing the Constitution is in the Constitution, idiot. And the Constitution itself did not comply with the requirements in the Articles of Confederation to change the structure of the government, but that was okay because self-determination means not being bound by strict limitations of whatever the current written document says is required to replace it.
NotSomoneElse68
Don't feed the trolls
ilovetraveler
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MCNewYorkLives
1) "loving your country" doesn't mean "accepting every aspect of it and the government unconditionally". Refusing to sly the flag is a way of saying that you don't support the actions of the government.
2) "claim FF were evil" is a very weird way of saying "acknowledging that they weren't saints". Sure, they had some good ideas, but we can't keep living in the world of "what would they do?" When they were living in a world of slavery and misogyny.
ObjectivePragmatistWithHope
The biggest and most important thing that Rapeublicans always OVER-fuckin-LOOK is that as good or bad as the Founding Fathers were and what great ideas they had (mostly taken from Natives, about "Democracy;" native Americans didn't just teach colonial invaders how to survive, but also taught them about their Democratic governing methods that were "Socially," beneficial) they ALL knew or agreed that they weren't perfect and didn't know everything, thus the ability to update through Amendments.
MCNewYorkLives
3) the only reason they say that blue states should secede is due to the fact that blue states are oftentimes providing the most funds for the country, have some of the highest rates of education, and anything else good while the country seems to cater to red states while villainizing blue states. It's basically commenting "so you think you could survive without us?"
akafluffy
and honestly, if I had a nickel for every time a southern state threatened to secede from the union I could retire.
getthismanabeer
All of those are symptoms of protest against the current lawless corrupt power hungry bullshit that is happening. You're a bot or your head is so far up your ass you can see your breakfast. "they"... you're gross. We're all Americans. (I historically have not voted Democrat.)
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Bubble181
As a non-American conservative, let's be very clear here. Being somewhat conservative or traditionalist isn't bad. Social norms are changing at an unparalleled rate. It's okay not to feel like you belong. A lot of people feel that way. But that doesn't mean your should act out against anyone different. The USA was the quintessential country of freedom: oppressed in your own country? Come enjoy freedom! That's now gone, and you're now as bad as Afghanistan or Congo as far as freedom goes.
Zange0
Do recognize that there are republicans calling for cession, stripping of the Bill of Rights, and execution of democrats?
This isn't a 'but they do it too', I just want to establish a baseline here.
couldyounot123
I wouldn't waste your time on this guy
crazyspelling
Why would anyone want to see states leave the union is an easy one: because the shittiest states are dragging the rest of us down, and we want them to have all the freedom they want to be just as dumb and horrible as they want, and then maybe, just maybe, they'll figure out they've been generarionally, institutionally scammed for more than 150 years. Or they can become a Christian Afghanistan.
CRHguy
The reddest red state is 40% Democrat and the bluest blue state is 40% Republican. Look up the clusterfuk the partition of India and Pakistan was and multiply it by 1000. You don’t want that.
MCNewYorkLives
4) the constitution was MEANT to be rewritten as society changed. It's a relic of the past and something needs to change to prevent the shit that's happening right now from continuing to happen. Of course they would call for a rewrite.
3) they sympathize because a) it's a form of protest (or are you against protesting now?) and b) they know that the government and goo supporters keep treating foreigners bad...so why wouldn't they boo the country?
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FrancsTireur
You dont replace it, you update it with time.
The language used in both is so flowery and arcane that you could and several presidents have, driven entire armoured divisions through its loopholes.
You need a functioning document, not a page of angsty poetry using 300 year old verbage. The easiest example is the 2nd amendment, "Militia", at the time that was written the militia was an arm of the state, the governor called it up and chose its commander.
The national guard now fills that role 1/
FrancsTireur
So everyone with a gun in the US has it based on a system that no longer exists and a context that will almost certainly never exist again, namely a ground invasion of the United States.
So you say you have them to defend yourself against government overreach, okay, except you dont, the government has been overreaching for decades in every arena from foreign policy to healthcare to privacy.
According to some constitutional scholars, there is no "right to privacy" in the constitution, and 2/
Hexidimentional
what the fuck kind of name is Brilyn
DVSBSTrD
AI
InfocalypseRising
The kind of name you give your kid when your only goal in life is to one-up people, such as by giving your kid a ridiculous name to make sure nobody else has it
ObjectivePragmatistWithHope
Either str8 AI account, or his fuckin parents really, REALLY, fuckin wanted a girl, NOT him.
sleepinggreenidea
Unfortunately not AI. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brilyn_Hollyhand
TunnelRat13
The kind you generate as an ai bot account?
thedarktowerguy
Brilyn, a little dab'll do ya.
GenXHippie
Brilyn, you’ll look so debonaire.
kInADress
It's a bit of a tragedeigh
OneMoreLime
KKKyle was already taken.
Snooj
The kind of name a person who uses "loathe" six times in one Tweet has.
LespritDeLescalier22
To quote bobs burgers, if brilyn was a spice, he’d be flour
Wombatish
"He is the son of Leigh and Brian". Could be a goofy failed attempt at a combo name. Should have owned it and been Leian or Brigh.
1stDrunkJoe
I think his parents misspelled brilliant. "Ma boy, he gonna be brilyn I tells ya!"
Sticklebrickk
The kind of rich people who saw art films and have no regard for the future of their child
WackyWavingInflatableArmFlailingTubman
Its a cousin fucker name
jakedafish
Mormon name, sounds like.
hushpuppyextraordinaire
Named after the Capital of Germany
magus200342
Ti make things worse, it's pronounced 'brian'.
Hexidimentional
of course it is
Ruhig
"'Twas Brilyn! And they slythy toves did gyre and gimbal in the wabe."
MarkTwainsMysteriousStranger
cdlong
Is bri-lyn like rhymes with Bryan, or bril-yn like brill-in?
stabbermcshooty
Mayo
TheMindEntropic
Irrelevant. Names change a lot as humanity exists. Brilyn is a little dipshit, though.
Detacheddavid
Pretty sure it's a girls' name.
In the same way as a boy named Sue, you probably give such name to a boy, if you want your kid to be harassed.
Isorikk
Willing to bet it's Mormon
VladimirsKacs
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brilyn_Hollyhand
What kind of ten year old runs an "online political newspaper"?
Also, I see tgat this guy has opinions so far right wing, he's about to fall out of the theater window entirely. Then I look at his photo and my heart melts "Aw, Baby Hitler is giving interviews like he's people. So adorbs!"
jaggcomputing5
It is one of a group of plastics, like Nylon
onerousempire
Mormon
PallasCatgirl
Right? Brilyn Hollyhand sounds like he should be giving quests in Teldrassil, not being an insufferable shit on the internet.
DimwitF
Utahn
tirpider
Too much cinnamon on some chick's latte, I'm guessing.
DarwinsWeasel
Brilcream Hollyhand
sashasdad2
A fucken stupid one
FreePalestineAndTheWorldFromIsrael
The name you give to an inbred child
b00sk0r
A bad one.
4chanrefugee
Sorta name you'd give a kid you didn't want and certainly don't love before heading out to „get milk.“
Absolutely thrall tier name. One life on this shit planet and they decide to name him Brilyn.
Scezumin
+1 to needing to steal "thrall tier"
LanceSackless
Thrall tier name 💀
ToSisPoS
“Well they laughed at me when my first choice was Renesme”
Starlatan
Had to look it up, damn lol
MrAndaren
I will be honest, I wasn't thinking about this kind of Thrall. My first though went to Warcraft.
https://media1.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPWE1NzM3M2U1czM5M3BhbDBwOGdibmcwa2ExenJxenplN3VwanRhczdpMTZmMmRlbiZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/kHOk0z9MCkMzKjDPRY/200w.webp
Starlatan
Ah yes, the divorced dentist in an alternate universe.
couldyounot123
I'm taking thrall tier, that's gold
MadamPuddifoot
A girl's name, first of all.
Hexidimentional
dont girls names usually end in a vowel?
MadamPuddifoot
Mine doesn't.
Curiositykissedthecat
Usually, but there are Katelyn, Marilyn, Josephine, Beth, Ruth, Chantel, Mariam, Mariah, Carolyn, Molly, Skylar, Tess, etc that don't end in a vowel
Frencheeseater
Bot name ?
MyCommentsUsuallyHaveTypos
Ypipo name for sure
johnxbear
When you're parents are Brent and Krillen. https://media3.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPWE1NzM3M2U1MTVkZ3BrOHJreDJpa25remxzaXZvOHRtNmxvdHgxdjNkZmVuYXNjaiZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/6NJWp9ANuzXuf7XMwg/200w.webp
JurgenWindcallerz
Your*
johnxbear
Yure¤
JurgenWindcallerz
Yhör
Blud4BludGod
Yare yare
Starlatan
Yarr
Beartornado
I was going to write a comment about how both presidents did bad things even if not equally bad and should be loathed, but the distinction is pointless here. This isn't a conversation you can have with these people. If they aren't some paid disruptor running accounts from a foreign country then they are beyond reasoning with. I'm fucking neanderthal pilled now, beat these fucks with a club until the brain damage fixes them or kills them so that civilized society can resume.
blaghart
Also if you dare point out all the war crimes Obama perpetrated, and that this makes him not a good person and you shouldn't venerate him, liberals on this site get reeeeeeeally mad
oldguyexlurker
Brain damage is now proven to make people conservative. (Fetterman) The club must be used to the ultimate conclusion in order to effect change.
Sherpafish
Seems like some kind of Final Solution.
Thisisbullshitalready
Obama isn't/wasn't perfect. But he had class, intellect, an adult level of emotional regulation, a sense of humor, and accepted that criticism comes with the job. Trump is a lying, thieving, vicious, vindictive, 34X convicted felon, compulsive liar and rapist of both children and women with the emotional regulation of a 2 year old. I really don't know where you'd even begn to compare.
Bubble181
Well, you just compared them.
Thisisbullshitalready
Good point. But MAGA people definitely don't want to hear it.
blaghart
Yea it was so classy how he murdered children and declared they deserved it for being born with penises
Thisisbullshitalready
I mean if you're corect you can educate me, but this sounds like BS.
CloudyTime
Killing everyone you think is uncivilized actually puts you in agreement, at least values wise, with maga. So…
Navrodel
"If you kill a killer the number of killers remains the same!"
Which is ridiculous. I would intend to kill way more than one killer, and more importantly all of the innocent people those killers would go on to kill will get to live instead.
Meanwhile, MAGA wants to kill people because they think 'uncivilized' people - as defined by unchosen traits like race, orientation, and mental conditions - will ruin civilization. I want to kill MAGA because they want to kill people by choice.
Very different
CloudyTime
But you aren't actually going to kill anyone, are you? You'll just keep fantasizing about killing people, while you walk by those same people every day and do nothing.
Navrodel
Just like 99% of MAGAts. Unlike them however, I'm not going to take out my frustration - that I'm too much of a pussy to be a mass murderer for my ideology - by advocating for a government that will kill or otherwise remove the people that I don't like for me.
At least, not outside of basic crime and punishment levels of protecting the public. Things like actually charging cops for brutality and investigating people making credible threats.
The hate of the otherwise tolerant is different.
inboxmefoxes
What is it they say? Let god sort them out?
Beartornado
That's correct, they are already absolutely certain that the only way to exist going forward is to make choices that spite and destroy us even if it destroys themselves too. The mistake made is not matching that intensity before they got this far. It doesn't matter if we both earnestly believe the things we support are right or good within whatever context and circumstances led us to believe those things.
We beat them until the scars on history ensure nobody behaves like them again.
CloudyTime
But you won't do that. This is a macho murder fantasy at best, but back in reality Trump will die of old age, his coalition will drift apart, and you will keep posting your school-shooter-level comments while changing nothing. What's the point?
Beartornado
Macho murder fantasy? school-shooter-level comments? Put away the armchair Dr. Phil.
It's venting, it's exhaustion. My fucking opener was about being "neanderthal pilled" for a stupid grug joke. Beat them in elections, beat them in social inertia, hell maybe even start organizing to uproot and change the system that has clearly failed us so utterly so we can render these people politically irrelevant. The only ones who need a reality check believe we can ever return to a past normal.
johnathanrossshoulddie
"Destory nazis? That's as bad as being a nazi!"
Eat glass til you shit blood
CloudyTime
You seem unsafe to be around. I hope the people in your life stay safe.
Crosseyedcockatoo
Naw, the maga/nazi/epstein crowd of predators broke the social contract first. They’ve made sure that everyone knows what they intend for anyone that isn’t one of them.
It’s self-defense for pretty much everyone that isn’t them at this point. No HONEST jury’s going to find otherwise.
CloudyTime
It would be self defense to kill 77 million people? I don’t think that would hold up in court, but I suppose you would just kill the jury if they convicted you
Crosseyedcockatoo
Wow, you are really good at gymnastics. And paranoid. Just because you think you deserve someone coming after you, doesn’t mean they will.
But when you finally do what your heroes have been doing to innocent people in the streets, don’t count on your victims just recording it and hoping justice is served.
They will be ready.
And 77 million people might have been racist women haters a while back, but they can’t all have been pedos.
You don’t have enough friends to threaten people anymore.
crazyspelling
Except for the devastating economic impact, what's the difference between 77 and 77 million? If 77 people were threatening the existence of 8,000 people, would it be self-defense to kill them? If 7 threatened 800, same question. What about 1 threatening 80. Does morality scale?
CloudyTime
I don't think killing our way to utopia is possible, especially if the qualifier for the death penalty is who someone voted for. But it seems you disagree. How many people are you willing to kill to make your "perfect society"?
johnathanrossshoulddie
The only good you'll ever do with your life is end it. Do your first bit of good today!
CloudyTime
Oh hey, encouraging suicide! I hope that one day you abandon this hatred and evil and learn the joy in helping people instead.
LookingLikeASnack
Violence of the oppressed is not the same as the violence of the oppressor.
Civility Politics is reductive tone policing at best and serves to benefit the oppressing party at worst.
CloudyTime
It's not tone policing to point out that "Society would be great if I could kill all the bad people" is not a political position that fights oppression. If you think like that, you aren't a progressive.
LookingLikeASnack
It's incredible that I called what you're doing reductive tone policing and then you put, in quotes, a complete reduction of the point you originally responded to. Like what you're doing is, objectively, reductive tone policing.
CloudyTime
It really isn't, but another commenter on here has already wished for my death twice so I feel pretty confident in my assertion that putting a progressive veneer on bloodlust doesn't improve the bloodlust meaningfully.