I wonder if Matt would push the magic button the cured cancer of all types and also made it never happen again. However the DOW would drop by 40,000 points(as of time of this post its at 52,000). After all humans are more important.
What if the human was gay and the apes were Christian, Matt? And this respect for humans, does it include the homeless? Maybe let a few pongos and bonobos off the hook for them? Trump?
A homophobic and racist dickweed. Against gay marriage, uses racist dog whistles (and just outright racist rhetoric) and even takes a big shit on trans folk too.
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I think you and I have different understandings on what poachers do with animals though.
I'm ok with two consenting adults performing sex acts on each other. I'm also OK with sucking dick.
Typically animals can't consent, which is my main concern. Gorillas can 'speak' sign language and say yes or no. So I'm going with a firm, maybe? He would have to be a hard yes at the minimum
I understand where you are coming from. But it is important to remember a majority of the poachers are people living in an impoverished area trying anything they can to take care of their family. They don't make big checks for what they gather. The people making the money are the importers and exporters. Those are the one who need to be stopped most. Some places started giving poachers jobs catching poachers. And have seen drastic drops in the number of poached animals.
I never understood why they always burn the tusks/hides etc when they confiscate it from poachers. Why not sell them? It would make them less scarce which would bring down the black market price for said goods and they could use the proceeds to hire more ppl to protect against the poachers. Seems like a wasted opportunity to me
Some places have tried to make a move to humanly gather tusks when possible and sale them for profit. But some people in their governments are fighting it. But I agree it could be a good step in the right direction.
I imagine it's because that would financially incentivize corruption.
As a protector, you could make a lot of money by "confiscating" a lot of tusks/hides from your poacher buddies who never get caught but whose caches you keep finding. You then catch other poachers for real, to make the deal exclusive to your crew.
The simplest way to disincentivize that kind of scheme is by destroying the goods.
Because that's not how economics works. Demand only goes down when supply has fully met it. If they allowed the sale of a little contraband, then the market for it keeps going and demand remains/increases creating incentive to keep supplying. Destroying that stuff is about making sure the market stays very small, keeping demand low, and hopefully transitioning to non-existant as tastes change.
Apply that logic to drugs. It's illegal to sell them, and if you seized kilos of cocaine, selling it to flood the market and bring down prices would not be acceptable.
Sale of animal parts is illegal so even law enforcement can't do it.
If you kill every living of any species - you kill so much more humans than you can ever imagine. Most indirect way is that the humans overuse the place where the former species lived and nothing can live there for a long time.
this kind of thinking that matt is demonstrating is dangerous because as we can see in israel, it doesnt take too much of a step of logic to go from murdering all the apes, to murdering all the palestinians, listen to how they talk about them, the dehumanizing language
This kind of thinking is just fantasizing about killing, just like conservatives having elaborate scenarios about home defense or vigilante justice. Violent daydreaming and "virtue" signaling.
I would believe the white man was the attacker if presented with that argument. We're kind of known for being just a little stabby stabby. How many times in horror movies does Stabhappy Pete get his masked ripped off to reveal a white bloke?
Now now, it's a bit more complicated than that... like is one of them an off-duty police officer? Because if so, there's like a 90% chance it's that guy (if this is in America; police in many other countries tend to be less violent).
If I told you that 5 men attacked a riverboat captain for trying to move their pontoon boat out of the space assigned to the captain's boat, and then asked you to guess the race of the assailants, every single person would know the answer immediately.
I am a white man living in Mobile, AL. I go out of my way to shop at what many in my area refer to as "Ghetto Walmart". I live much closer to the Tillman's Corner Walmart. "Ghetto Walmart" patrons are polite, quiet, keep to themselves. TC Walmart patrons are, too often, loud, abusive, and drug-addled. I've never been acosted at "Ghetto Walmart" but I have been at TC more than once.
The case that he's talking about is unbelievably tragic in my case. The white kid didn't just tell him he was in the wrong seat. He was threatening him if he didn't move because he felt his school had the right to be there and the black kid didn't go to his school. The white kid and his twin brothers were known bullies. The black kid told him something like "swing on me see what happens I have a knife." Because of that it really can't be anything but murder. If he would have instead silently 1/2
just stabbed the kid, and later said he felt threatened, it would have been self defense or stand your ground. Or if the kid didn't have a knife no one would have died, or if the other kid wouldn't have been an asshole about where someone else was sitting it wouldn't have happened. An the trial... geez. The judge didn't allow the victim's past as a bully to be talked about at the trial. The whole thing is complicated and fucked up. It's not "black people are bad." Walsh is an idiot. 2/2
If they're disproportionately violent or the perception of that is there is because they've been historically disenfranchised and without accessible education or safe environments quick to anger and self defense. Esp when culture glorifies it as some form of freedom from oppression. Whether black or white anyone brought up in that environment is susceptible to that behavior
Yeah I'm flour-white and I would 100% have gone with "white dude freaks the fuck out that an uppity [slur] dares to try and tell him what to do and murders him in racism-fueled rage" as my first assumption.
Granted I'd also be open to revising that given a credible source (which Matt Walsh is not), and I'm pretty sure Walsh would not be willing to consider doing so either.
Yeah this, the “everybody knows it” but is kinda telling that its purely his own opinion and not anything fact based, because if the facts supported his claims you can be damn sure they’d be flaunting it nonstop. But so far the best argument they got is “everyone knows it”.
Its "funny" because its historical seen white men telling black people they are in the wrong seat... "See they are violent when im just trying to oppress them..."
It IS a very simple concept. It’s called speciesism. It’s another flavor of bigotry, perhaps the most pervasive bigotry of the human mind. I have seen far too much of it working animal rescue, and it is sickening. Eat me, Walsh!
The claim was that it was the next step with speciesist thinking. It's not. Most people who think human lives are more valuable than other animals lives (speciesists) will not go on to start deciding who is and isn't human. Most humans are speciesists. YOU are probably a speciesist. Are YOU about to start labelling who is and isn't human?
Ask yourself this: was he really talking about apes?
This exact line of thinking is what's used to promote racism and yes those same people are ABSOLUTELY speciest. Do you really think they find white people superior, but *only* to people of color and not animals..??
Filanwizard
I wonder if Matt would push the magic button the cured cancer of all types and also made it never happen again. However the DOW would drop by 40,000 points(as of time of this post its at 52,000). After all humans are more important.
PerthAussieMike
Even if the one human is someone like Jeffery Dhamer? I'd happily throw someone like Matt Walsh to the gorillas to prevent them from going extinct.
doctorId
I would pay to watch Matt Walsh locked in a room with an ape.
daianaaaa
I like trees more than most people
Antrobus55
What if the human was gay and the apes were Christian, Matt? And this respect for humans, does it include the homeless? Maybe let a few pongos and bonobos off the hook for them? Trump?
TheLastGreatAudit
Wierd how their hero fantasies only ever involve them committing violence
RexFury
I always see people say this about aliens and it pisses me off to no end
ansiichan
so, would he ? come on matt, you are ready to murder but not give few bj's ?
RamboGram
Two things: Fuck Matt Walsh. And, who the fuck is Matt Walsh?
Mirrormancer
A homophobic and racist dickweed. Against gay marriage, uses racist dog whistles (and just outright racist rhetoric) and even takes a big shit on trans folk too.
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FartsSmellBad
"If there are people in Haiti who need us, but we don't need them... that is the first consideration that has to be thought of." - Matt
Causeitsmadeofmeat
Humans are apes, so...
Chimaeraxxxxx
Which racist is Matt Walsh again? I can’t keep them straight
CrimsonPermanentAssurance
Another mediocre dime a dozen internet personality
Quizz25S
Same guy probably doesn't give a shit about the war in Gaza or Ukraine.
WarlockSniper
Oh he does. He wants Israel and Russia to succeed.
MadHatter69
Low effort rage bait imbecile
Iblamemyparentstoo
I would kill you just to never read another of your inane tweets
Hexrowe
No sacrifice is too great for someone else to make, I guess.
samwyze
K. Thor Jensen!? Now that's a name I haven't seen in 25 years!
Myothercarisadelorean
He must hate every ape from chimpanA to chimpanzee.. Well I guess someone really made a monkey out of him.
Neurisko
Rock me, Doctor Zaius.
FredGarvinMaleProstitute
Dicks out for Harambe
CorndogHead
But humans are apes.
SomeGeek75ygh
Humans and Apes are both Primates, technically, and while there is overlap, we are not Apes and they are not Hominids.
GravyEducation
And apes together strong
Thajurriesexcuesed
Apes with bad fur.
Lampmonster
Religious idiots like Walsh do not accept that, or most science for that matter.
bertchstudio
They suffer from authoritarian abuse. It's intentional to make them easy to manipulate against everyone else.
Religious people should not be able to hold office anywhere on Earth
And yeah, I'll probably die on that hill
illegalacorn
Religion is almost universally recognized by the common folk as true, by wise folk as false, and by the rulers as useful
WoodORama
And if I was charged with protecting apes from poachers? I wouldn't think twice about shooting a human poacher. Cuz fuck 'em, that's why.
CallMeCourierSix
Let's be real. This is Matt Walsh doing a genocide dog whistle.
"I would kill every person of color to save one white persons life." is what this translates to.
CJwhoIsKindToAllKinds
As a vegan, I love hunting accidents 😂
arikelrecords2000
Would you suck a poachers dick to stop them from shooting an ape?
MeanMisterClean
Would you suck the ape's dick to stop the poacher from sucking it?
arikelrecords2000
I think you and I have different understandings on what poachers do with animals though.
I'm ok with two consenting adults performing sex acts on each other. I'm also OK with sucking dick.
Typically animals can't consent, which is my main concern. Gorillas can 'speak' sign language and say yes or no. So I'm going with a firm, maybe? He would have to be a hard yes at the minimum
BlindGardener
Sure, but I have an uncontrollable urge to chew…
Isthe4thtimethecharm
I understand where you are coming from. But it is important to remember a majority of the poachers are people living in an impoverished area trying anything they can to take care of their family. They don't make big checks for what they gather. The people making the money are the importers and exporters. Those are the one who need to be stopped most. Some places started giving poachers jobs catching poachers. And have seen drastic drops in the number of poached animals.
WoodORama
You make a good point. So I need to shoot Art Vandalay?
MrNardtastic
I never understood why they always burn the tusks/hides etc when they confiscate it from poachers. Why not sell them? It would make them less scarce which would bring down the black market price for said goods and they could use the proceeds to hire more ppl to protect against the poachers. Seems like a wasted opportunity to me
Isthe4thtimethecharm
Some places have tried to make a move to humanly gather tusks when possible and sale them for profit. But some people in their governments are fighting it. But I agree it could be a good step in the right direction.
LoudBirb
I imagine it's because that would financially incentivize corruption.
As a protector, you could make a lot of money by "confiscating" a lot of tusks/hides from your poacher buddies who never get caught but whose caches you keep finding. You then catch other poachers for real, to make the deal exclusive to your crew.
The simplest way to disincentivize that kind of scheme is by destroying the goods.
scrumbles666
Because that's not how economics works. Demand only goes down when supply has fully met it. If they allowed the sale of a little contraband, then the market for it keeps going and demand remains/increases creating incentive to keep supplying. Destroying that stuff is about making sure the market stays very small, keeping demand low, and hopefully transitioning to non-existant as tastes change.
bestlaidmind
Apply that logic to drugs. It's illegal to sell them, and if you seized kilos of cocaine, selling it to flood the market and bring down prices would not be acceptable.
Sale of animal parts is illegal so even law enforcement can't do it.
contextisimportant
If you kill every living of any species - you kill so much more humans than you can ever imagine. Most indirect way is that the humans overuse the place where the former species lived and nothing can live there for a long time.
alcamar
We've established what you are, now we are negotiating...
PantsAreForTheWeek
Humans are apes.
dingybasement350
Based on his whole shtick I'd say chances are good that Matt Walsh is one of those dipshits that denies evolution.
AnimalRescueGuy
Shh! Don’t go confusing him with facts. He clearly prefers to work without them.
Hexidimentional
this kind of thinking that matt is demonstrating is dangerous because as we can see in israel, it doesnt take too much of a step of logic to go from murdering all the apes, to murdering all the palestinians, listen to how they talk about them, the dehumanizing language
mikeatike
Want to realize how terrible this is?
I guarantee the racist fuck Matt Walsh is talking about black people here.
BarryTheCyborg
Matt is a well known Nazi and is probably referring to black people when he says "apes".
SalmonTheWise
This kind of thinking is just fantasizing about killing, just like conservatives having elaborate scenarios about home defense or vigilante justice. Violent daydreaming and "virtue" signaling.
Terran81
And just waiting for someone to give them “permission”
pareidoliaperson
Checks all the red flags. I could bet all my pennies he´s a hate speech poster and this is one of his not-so subtle hate speeches.
SalmonTheWise
It's Matt Walsh, he's Charlie Kirk with even less charisma.
Mirrormancer
Matt Walsh is thinking about black people when he mentions apes. He's too racist for me to think otherwise.
Filanwizard
white people shoot each other all the time over parking spaces in the suburbs.
Hexidimentional
oh there it is, an example of him dehumanizing a person. Pair this statement with his statement about apes and we start going down a very dark path
RockTheBackblast
I would believe the white man was the attacker if presented with that argument. We're kind of known for being just a little stabby stabby. How many times in horror movies does Stabhappy Pete get his masked ripped off to reveal a white bloke?
DatDarthCaedus
Now now, it's a bit more complicated than that... like is one of them an off-duty police officer? Because if so, there's like a 90% chance it's that guy (if this is in America; police in many other countries tend to be less violent).
RockTheBackblast
Ok, yeah no that's a very fair point that I had not considered. In that case, yeah absolutely, first thought would be Blue.
Raileks
If I told you that 5 men attacked a riverboat captain for trying to move their pontoon boat out of the space assigned to the captain's boat, and then asked you to guess the race of the assailants, every single person would know the answer immediately.
Superchief86
Yeah, because no black person has ever faced violence from white people for sitting in the "correct" seat...
Syrioforel79
He's such a despicable piece of shit.
HarryDresdenIsMySpiritAnimal
I am a white man living in Mobile, AL. I go out of my way to shop at what many in my area refer to as "Ghetto Walmart". I live much closer to the Tillman's Corner Walmart. "Ghetto Walmart" patrons are polite, quiet, keep to themselves. TC Walmart patrons are, too often, loud, abusive, and drug-addled. I've never been acosted at "Ghetto Walmart" but I have been at TC more than once.
probablywontbearoundlong
The case that he's talking about is unbelievably tragic in my case. The white kid didn't just tell him he was in the wrong seat. He was threatening him if he didn't move because he felt his school had the right to be there and the black kid didn't go to his school. The white kid and his twin brothers were known bullies. The black kid told him something like "swing on me see what happens I have a knife." Because of that it really can't be anything but murder. If he would have instead silently 1/2
probablywontbearoundlong
just stabbed the kid, and later said he felt threatened, it would have been self defense or stand your ground. Or if the kid didn't have a knife no one would have died, or if the other kid wouldn't have been an asshole about where someone else was sitting it wouldn't have happened. An the trial... geez. The judge didn't allow the victim's past as a bully to be talked about at the trial. The whole thing is complicated and fucked up. It's not "black people are bad." Walsh is an idiot. 2/2
NozzleBozzle
What I hate about twitter is it gives a minor air of legitimacy to what is basically the ramblings of a very disturbed little man
lighterletter
If they're disproportionately violent or the perception of that is there is because they've been historically disenfranchised and without accessible education or safe environments quick to anger and self defense. Esp when culture glorifies it as some form of freedom from oppression. Whether black or white anyone brought up in that environment is susceptible to that behavior
queernosaur
That's funny because unfortunately I would think the opposite more likely
PeakExponent
But, like, sitting on the wrong seat of the bus DID get black kids lynched
Daliena06
Yeah I'm flour-white and I would 100% have gone with "white dude freaks the fuck out that an uppity [slur] dares to try and tell him what to do and murders him in racism-fueled rage" as my first assumption.
Granted I'd also be open to revising that given a credible source (which Matt Walsh is not), and I'm pretty sure Walsh would not be willing to consider doing so either.
Neurisko
"He was just standing his ground!!!!"
crazyspelling
It's not even a question in my mind tbh, of course the white kid would stab the black kid in that hypothetical scenario.
Z0op
Yeah this, the “everybody knows it” but is kinda telling that its purely his own opinion and not anything fact based, because if the facts supported his claims you can be damn sure they’d be flaunting it nonstop. But so far the best argument they got is “everyone knows it”.
OneOfTheEnemiesWithin
Sources: “trust me bro” and “I did my own research”, as per the usual MAGA’s response.
Mirrormancer
kojenk
its especially terrible because that was her neighbourhood Ice was invading.
Makerofroads
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MadHatter69
He can't be racist, he's sitting next to a black person in his profile picture! /s
Karilyn
NGL, my instant reaction was assuming the assailant was white because I know how murderous racists can be.
copperdomebodhi
LOL. "Bigots are right to be bigoted because if you ask them a hypothetical, they'll give a bigoted answer."
TripleDane
Its "funny" because its historical seen white men telling black people they are in the wrong seat...
"See they are violent when im just trying to oppress them..."
Mirrormancer
"Won't someone think of the poor racists!?"
AnimalRescueGuy
It IS a very simple concept. It’s called speciesism. It’s another flavor of bigotry, perhaps the most pervasive bigotry of the human mind. I have seen far too much of it working animal rescue, and it is sickening. Eat me, Walsh!
Hexidimentional
the next step with this kind of thinking is deciding who is and isnt human.
mikeatike
Its not even the next step, theres a reason why the right wing bigos call black people "apes". People are missing the dog whistle badly here.
Username62611
Not really. But claiming that bigotry against other humans is an escalatory step is ironically a good example of the speciesism being described.
Feralkyn
??? The fuck you mean, "not really?" The term "subhuman" has been applied to MULTIPLE groups throughout history during their persecution.
Username62611
The claim was that it was the next step with speciesist thinking. It's not. Most people who think human lives are more valuable than other animals lives (speciesists) will not go on to start deciding who is and isn't human. Most humans are speciesists. YOU are probably a speciesist. Are YOU about to start labelling who is and isn't human?
Feralkyn
Ask yourself this: was he really talking about apes?
This exact line of thinking is what's used to promote racism and yes those same people are ABSOLUTELY speciest. Do you really think they find white people superior, but *only* to people of color and not animals..??