Thoughts and prayers for that kid who was born on 11/11/11 whose parents named him Dovakiin so they could get free bethesda games for life. Ain't nothing wrong with him, he's just in middle school with that name rn.
I was at the grocery store the other that and there was a note for the cashiers that they could sell alcohol to anyone from 2005 and over (or under, I guess). Age limit here is 18. I can’t believe that people born in 2005 are 18. What in the world happened to time
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I know a lot of people don't like it but I generally write out month day year. Because when I say it out loud. "It's November 4th 2023" sounds more proper then saying 2023 November 4th. Though 4th of November 2023 sounds fine too.
MYD/DY\YMY, where the order of the digits lines up with the order of the letters, so the first Y is the left most digit of the year, second Y is the next digit of the year, etc. except on leap years then it's the oppsite order. today is the 120/50\213. but the same date next year (leap year) would be 145\02/012. and yes the slash and backslash also swap during leap years.
This would still not significantly increase the complexity of timekeeping. I can't find the video, but Tom Scott on YouTube did a pretty amusing piece on how complicated it is trying to reconcile all of the idiosyncrasies. "...and then the astrophysicists call..."
My workplace recently formally standardized to DD-MMM-YY and it's followed about half the time. The months having their abbreviation written out certainly helps with ambiguity
China and japan are at the top end of a normal distribution. Their date format is in the top percentile. Best. Most countries are in the middle (blue). US is bottom. The middle is the median. 1 standard deviation either side of this covers 60something percent of the population.
The graph is memeing to try and be edgy for a "dumb america" slant. The reality is that most canadians use the m/d/y format for most purposes. The only ambiguity is Y/M/D is used on government documents, but a lot of governments do that and they're categorized otherwise.
Best is YYYY/MM/DD. When you have a bunch of files/folders with dates in the filenames, DD/MM/YYYY gets everything sorted by DAY, regardless of the year or month.
As an American who regularly writes dates in both formats, I've found nothing inherently "better" about 5/9 or 9/5. 5/9 more accurately implies "May 9th" but ordering the numbers by d/m/y is more consistent. YYYY-MM-DD is the best of both worlds.
The problem is that d/m/y is a thoroughly modern view of looking at it, really most applicable for the digital age. If you got a letter or read a newspaper, they would write the date out as stylistically appropriate, then use the m/d/y as an abbreviation for internal consistency. I do also support y/m/d though; i believe it gets used in Japan or Korea or somewhere around that area.
I have a coworker that spells the month, then DD YY. Just chaos on the shared drive. I’m constantly opening the wrong year or doing the abc song to find the month. Now I just rename their crap.
Dunno why you're being downvoted. There's little chance to misread that even in print. Each unit is distinct, and decent software should be able to read properly configured dates anyway. No chance to confuse like dd/mm/yyyy vs. mm/dd/yyyy. Just less useful than yyyy mm dd if you need to do something niche like sort files and folders with the date in the name.
That's a fair point. For writing out any date on any form ever, I always use DD/MMM/YYYY. There can be zero confusion, ever, and it's saved my bacon at least once in college with a professor who hated me. You are correct that it's less efficient for digital formats, however.
I had to do monthly inventory on excel, and all files were saved in the same folder. YYYY/MM/DD is the only way to keep your folders organized alphabetically.
2020s Windows should be able to figure this stuff but here we are. Getting everyone in a company to a state of multiuser filename consistency (or remember to date them at all) can be a nightmare when things are crossfiring on the network and in emails. Which file do you need? "03 04 2022 proposal - Copy (2)" (saved on the 18th) or "march proposal for bill - latest" (saved on the 11th). What about "03 04 2022 proposal - Copy (2)" saved on the 20th? Or was it because it was moved to another drive?
I reread my comment but maybe I wasn't specific enough? Feel like I've been having to clarify some stuff. Business was one of the niches I was alluding to with yyyy mm dd, and brought up as a more functional alternative. Just in case, I wasn't trying to imply that detailed filenames or foldernames was an uncommon something just for data hobbyists, or was insignificant for the word "niche."
Er, for the purposes of filename or foldername sorting, yeah. You wouldn't use dd mmm yyyy for that. It would sort first by dd anyway. I meant for legibility, especially internationally. It does the job. Windows might confuse Aug for coming before Jan, but it'll get the information across on an expiry label. Something like a spreadsheet should be able to understand either format anyway.
MMM typically is the abbreviated _name_ of the month, (e.g. Nov). Nothing wrong with that for normal people, but I'm a computer nerd so I'm going for the month number here (e.g. 11).
MMM doesn't work for Digital naming, because you can't sort properly... APR, AUG, DEC, FEB , JAN, MAR, MAY, JUL, JUN, NOV, OCT, SEB just doesn't work lol
Science and research nerd here. Good clinical practice actually *requires* us to use abbreviated month name so the DD MM mix-ups don't happen. Not disagreeing with you about the rest tho lol
I use YYYYMMDD for log file names and similar purposes, but separators are good for humans. The human ability to subitize caps out around 4, so adding separators helps the brain pick out the year from the month and day without having to count digits.
I'd argue it's better even for logging despite adding a few characters. It makes it so much easier to fix stuff if you have to go in and check shit manually.
mocosoft
11 years ago: https://youtu.be/aqWTPFSgqb4
wazeewa
Why would you post MM/YY/DD? That's just messed up
samantharocker
I turned 30 on 10/10/10. 40 on 10/10/20. I'm still waiting for my super powers.
Imsomewhatofaboobmyself85
Is that like 11/11/11 I'm confused.
Jekerchan
At 11:11?
NicNac225
Ah, the rare platinum birthday
CloudStrife668
Fun little fact about myself, I need a girlfriend...............
keillrandor
There's at least a dozen of us, right? :P
SavageDrums
Make a wish, dude!
RunLikeAnAntelope
My son’s DOB is 2/22/22
017renegade
Should have edited to 11.11.11 for non Americans. Get it right.
SpammersAreScum
ISO standard: YYYY-MM-DD; to specify a month, YYYY-MM. It's unambiguous, logical, and makes sorting trivial.
Kitastrophe
Thoughts and prayers for that kid who was born on 11/11/11 whose parents named him Dovakiin so they could get free bethesda games for life. Ain't nothing wrong with him, he's just in middle school with that name rn.
DanielWhiffin
In China, it would be written as 11.11.11
Arracor
♫ One one ONE one one one...... dots. ♫
JockoV
On the 11th hour.
giraffpappa
I never trust dates written with slashes. Not even in this case.
pkenny72
I remember their 11th birthday, I was playing Skiyrim.
Zreen
I used to play Skyrim like you. Then I took an arrow to the knee
gyzmok
I'll turn 45 in the year 45 squared
thoushaltnotpass
So he was born on 0/0/0 am I right?
DwayneTheCrackJohnson
Yea, Nigel Tufnel Day was lit
DwayneTheCrackJohnson
All the oblivious downvoters could just google "Nigel Tufnel 11"
HOOMANGUY
Did you change your name to DOVAKIN?
CookingIsFun
That person is Skyrim years old.
Hurro
Yea but are they on their 16th iteration?
Leithoa
Oh good, you're finally awake.....
FweejTheOverseer
That’s the day I got kicked out of college.
AndThenThereWereSquirrels
could you not
curiousfoxes
That’s how my boyfriend remembers our anniversary :)
KiwiGameDev
Well he’s a keeper
ministryofpeace
Or he was until he took an arrow to the knee
KiwiGameDev
What you doing here down in the comments like this? No lollygagging
TheSwedishMoose
THISISYELLING
Skyrim +11, yes.
DustInComp
skyrim +12 next week
Psephos
That is not how time works
DustInComp
C0baltBlue
They turned 11 on Skyrim release date, so they are as old as Skyrim +11 years. Always and forever.
BythepowerofPlank
Well, now I feel old
kleinkaasje
I was at the grocery store the other that and there was a note for the cashiers that they could sell alcohol to anyone from 2005 and over (or under, I guess). Age limit here is 18. I can’t believe that people born in 2005 are 18. What in the world happened to time
BythepowerofPlank
People born in 2000 are 23
kleinkaasje
Stop it
rhinofromvenus
Stop feeling old, feel extended..
BrokenTimeMachine
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WeeemRCB
One of my cousins was born on 9/8/76
JohatoAgoto
I know a lot of people don't like it but I generally write out month day year. Because when I say it out loud. "It's November 4th 2023" sounds more proper then saying 2023 November 4th. Though 4th of November 2023 sounds fine too.
Skawomplious
Exactly right.
MrWobblyHead
Can't speak for the other countries, but here in the UK we would speak it it out as day, months year. So DMY is normal for spoken and written.
EroticZombiePants
Most of us Americans go month-day-year for casual writing.
DancesWithHippos
I'm glad OP went back to do the metric conversion.
KareemCheezItz
It’s binary
FuckmotheringxVampire
We have come to an agreement on one day out of the year, the battle rages over how to format the rest of the year.
badcode4o4
my son turned 7 on 07/07/07
witkop
But did he turn 007?
fantabuloustimewaster
Well actually, the agreement occurs on twelve days every year, one per m—— [gets ejected from party]
FuckmotheringxVampire
Shhh, let's make that Bruno and not talk about it
AyrA
Also on day 13 and up because those are not valid month numbers
holtsjoe
No, no, no, no... Even then MM/dd/yyyy is psychotic
AyrA
but it still is ambiguity free during those days
TheGoodGirth
Scrolled for this comment
NebulousToucan
ISO 8601. All other formats are inferior
lordfwahfnah
5cX469Nit9JuI1MAZG5c3AdA
This guy timestamps
SteveMND
funone77
I think we should just use the nuclear option and switch to YY/MM/DD format.
Choe8
That's actually how we do it alot if times in Sweden
RyanSamLin
Just spell out the damn month , Nov/05/23 everybody can understand that
MrWobblyHead
You're still putting them out of order though
pritolus
ISO standard date format YYYY-MM-DD, had to use it for work and now it's my favorite
Nightchime
Well it does match the descending digits of HH:MM:SS:MM
TheFishFace
If it's not iso8601 it's not a date; it's just hanging out
PostalHeathen
I prefer DD/YY/HH:mm/MM
cbillfarm
Can't we just make it easy and go with DDDDDDDDDD.....D format?
DanielWhiffin
Chinese use the YY.MM.DD format usually
TI99Kitty
Ah, so 11/11/11, then.
Weblord
They get it
escargogurt
How about DDDDDD? Today's date is 739,193. So simple!
AsidRayne1245
The OP did use your format.
ProxyPlayerHD
MYD/DY\YMY, where the order of the digits lines up with the order of the letters, so the first Y is the left most digit of the year, second Y is the next digit of the year, etc. except on leap years then it's the oppsite order. today is the 120/50\213. but the same date next year (leap year) would be 145\02/012. and yes the slash and backslash also swap during leap years.
SmoeAhsolse
This would still not significantly increase the complexity of timekeeping. I can't find the video, but Tom Scott on YouTube did a pretty amusing piece on how complicated it is trying to reconcile all of the idiosyncrasies.
"...and then the astrophysicists call..."
idonthaveanyideawhatthehelliamtalkingabout
Einstein9073
Landstreik
This made me throw up
Thekey147
It is my favorite because it can be seamlessly added to.. YYYY/MM/DD/Hr/Min
brettTvBaron
He has a clock with a millennium hand and an eon hand and when they meet it's happy land.
SilkStockingFullOfShit
YYYY-MM-DDTHH:MM
2023-11-05T10:15
SmoeAhsolse
YYYY-MM-DDTHH:MM:SS.000Z
SupernaturalReactions
/sec/milsec/micsec/nansec/picsec/femsec/attsec/....
varonicaED
So, make it 11/11/11 then?
ForlornHopeful
I'm good with big or small endian as it's normally easy to spot just by looking, it's the weird middle endian that screws it all up
IAmTheBadW01f
My workplace recently formally standardized to DD-MMM-YY and it's followed about half the time. The months having their abbreviation written out certainly helps with ambiguity
ForceKinTim
MD/DM
LjubljanaJeNajlepseMestoNaSvetu
Why not the NATO date format?
Vergenbuurg
My work now puts a date in all filenames, in the YYYYMMDD format, and it's been incredibly convenient for sorting/searching files at a glance.
JCBalance
It's helpful for sorting files with a creepy stare, too.
EroticZombiePants
That's how you are supposed to do it per ISO.
AchyBreakyArthritickyKnees
Our job tickets are numbered like that - so easy to see the oldest jobs.
JCBalance
Steve was the only one I'd ever heard of
MadamPuddifoot
I save everything I create with that date format, and I agree, it's soooo nice when you're searching for something!
MikePowers
Exactly what I use that
kinarism
Was gonna say, welcome to computer science. YYYYMMDDHHmmSS.000000000
Lachwen
DD-MMM-YYYY. There is zero confusion over what is a day, month or year in 04 NOV 2023, even if you've never used that system before.
WhereDidTheLastHourGo
Unless you work for a multi national where English abbreviation for month is not always understood
Lachwen
Honestly not a bigger issue than not knowing if 04/11 means November 4th or April 11th. DD-MMM-YYYY is less ambiguous.
WhereDidTheLastHourGo
It's less ambiguous for sure - we use it across my industry. It's just not perfect as a universal format.
HOOMANGUY
YSMYYMSY
HOOMANGUY
Year/second/Month/Year/Year/minute/Sex/WHY
areyouelonmusk
No
gerksterr
EuroCakes
Canada lost their date privileges after the incident.
tgeliot
What's the graph in the lower right supposed to be?
onemorethanme
China and japan are at the top end of a normal distribution. Their date format is in the top percentile. Best. Most countries are in the middle (blue). US is bottom. The middle is the median. 1 standard deviation either side of this covers 60something percent of the population.
ThisIsWhyIimgur
Iq chart
TI99Kitty
So Canada doesn't use ANY date format?
NachoIskerka
The graph is memeing to try and be edgy for a "dumb america" slant. The reality is that most canadians use the m/d/y format for most purposes. The only ambiguity is Y/M/D is used on government documents, but a lot of governments do that and they're categorized otherwise.
TI99Kitty
Okay. I didn't know that. I was just commenting on the N/A for Canada. Seems like it would be more accurate to say "Both [yellow] and [red]".
TheDouche
They date moose.
crazyspelling
This is how I label my files...
StevieTheAussie
Makes more sense than the American format. I admit that “May 9th” works better than “9th of May”, but 09/05 also works better than 05/09.
flyingmonkeystick
You can just drop the “of” if it’s too extra for you. 9th May is perfectly acceptable.
TheDouche
Ew
TI99Kitty
Best is YYYY/MM/DD. When you have a bunch of files/folders with dates in the filenames, DD/MM/YYYY gets everything sorted by DAY, regardless of the year or month.
ProbablyWrong524
As an American who regularly writes dates in both formats, I've found nothing inherently "better" about 5/9 or 9/5. 5/9 more accurately implies "May 9th" but ordering the numbers by d/m/y is more consistent. YYYY-MM-DD is the best of both worlds.
NachoIskerka
The problem is that d/m/y is a thoroughly modern view of looking at it, really most applicable for the digital age. If you got a letter or read a newspaper, they would write the date out as stylistically appropriate, then use the m/d/y as an abbreviation for internal consistency. I do also support y/m/d though; i believe it gets used in Japan or Korea or somewhere around that area.
KaJuN
Julian date for maximum chaos.
SilkStockingFullOfShit
YYYY-MM-DD
ISO8601 or GTFO.
... Hungarians use a . rather than a -
They can hang around the door after they GTFO.
pxlphile
This! bcs slashes are filesystem delimiters
SavageDrums
This is the way.gif
Makerofthingsmasherofstuff
YYYY/MM/DD
HanktheHeliotropeShank
This is how I date the comments I make on code.
Avsfan
I have a coworker that spells the month, then DD YY. Just chaos on the shared drive. I’m constantly opening the wrong year or doing the abc song to find the month. Now I just rename their crap.
Pphunk77
So AI will be ready for Y2.1K
Randomnessiosity
This is how I save all my files with dates in the name
KingMagenta
As a Genealogist this is how I document everything.
JerryCan7331
"Because it sorts!" -Data geek
donatoburlinger3000
ISO
AydenBeeson
8601
rmichelsen480
My computer says YES, it's so much easier to sort that way.
ToastedEggSandwich
YYYY-MM-DD-TIME to be really precise! Right now is 2023-11-05-0313GMT!
ThePhyry22
Then people would just argue about timezones
sturmhauke
That's what UTC is for.
3Davideo
Use UTC instead
kmikl
YTMND to be significantly less precise. ISO 8601 if you want to be precise.
brassmule
DD/MMM/YYYY 04 NOV 2023
PrincessWendyB
AMERICA, FUCK YEAH!
DesignatedDrinker
I do this when I have to hand write a date on a form (for clarity) but it's terrible for sorting so it shouldn't be used in any digital file system.
SupernaturalReactions
LeftRightThere
Mercenarity
Dunno why you're being downvoted. There's little chance to misread that even in print. Each unit is distinct, and decent software should be able to read properly configured dates anyway. No chance to confuse like dd/mm/yyyy vs. mm/dd/yyyy. Just less useful than yyyy mm dd if you need to do something niche like sort files and folders with the date in the name.
brassmule
That's a fair point. For writing out any date on any form ever, I always use DD/MMM/YYYY. There can be zero confusion, ever, and it's saved my bacon at least once in college with a professor who hated me. You are correct that it's less efficient for digital formats, however.
lowkeylives
I had to do monthly inventory on excel, and all files were saved in the same folder. YYYY/MM/DD is the only way to keep your folders organized alphabetically.
Mercenarity
2020s Windows should be able to figure this stuff but here we are. Getting everyone in a company to a state of multiuser filename consistency (or remember to date them at all) can be a nightmare when things are crossfiring on the network and in emails. Which file do you need? "03 04 2022 proposal - Copy (2)" (saved on the 18th) or "march proposal for bill - latest" (saved on the 11th). What about "03 04 2022 proposal - Copy (2)" saved on the 20th? Or was it because it was moved to another drive?
sturmhauke
Filenames with dates are extremely common in the corporate world, especially when sending them to remote systems.
Mercenarity
I reread my comment but maybe I wasn't specific enough? Feel like I've been having to clarify some stuff. Business was one of the niches I was alluding to with yyyy mm dd, and brought up as a more functional alternative. Just in case, I wasn't trying to imply that detailed filenames or foldernames was an uncommon something just for data hobbyists, or was insignificant for the word "niche."
ToastedEggSandwich
Yes, because we all know that August comes before January.
Mercenarity
Er, for the purposes of filename or foldername sorting, yeah. You wouldn't use dd mmm yyyy for that. It would sort first by dd anyway. I meant for legibility, especially internationally. It does the job. Windows might confuse Aug for coming before Jan, but it'll get the information across on an expiry label. Something like a spreadsheet should be able to understand either format anyway.
Trollero
Apparently, niche ppl outnumber your kind 2 to 1
Mercenarity
I'm part of the niche that uses yyyy mm dd, though. But brassmule's format works and is just an extension of dd-mm-yyyy used outside the US.
mithiwithi
YYYY-MM-DD
pritolus
Thank you! ISO standard ftw!
sturmhauke
Programmer here. ISO or GTFO.
colinardo
What does ISO mean?
madflenser
YYYY-MMM-DD
mithiwithi
MMM typically is the abbreviated _name_ of the month, (e.g. Nov). Nothing wrong with that for normal people, but I'm a computer nerd so I'm going for the month number here (e.g. 11).
druu
MMM doesn't work for Digital naming, because you can't sort properly... APR, AUG, DEC, FEB , JAN, MAR, MAY, JUL, JUN, NOV, OCT, SEB just doesn't work lol
madflenser
Science and research nerd here. Good clinical practice actually *requires* us to use abbreviated month name so the DD MM mix-ups don't happen. Not disagreeing with you about the rest tho lol
nemesisx00
YYYYMMDD. If it's always the same order and size, you don't need separators.
bot1010011010
but what about the Y10k issue?
mithiwithi
I use YYYYMMDD for log file names and similar purposes, but separators are good for humans. The human ability to subitize caps out around 4, so adding separators helps the brain pick out the year from the month and day without having to count digits.
Eldis
I'd argue it's better even for logging despite adding a few characters. It makes it so much easier to fix stuff if you have to go in and check shit manually.