Trump had them in mid 2019 so less than Biden. Still disturbing that Biden didn't do anything with this even if 10x more democrats were in the files. I'm guessing a lot of influential democrats were also in the files or they didn't have enough evidence against trump. It's rather disturbing if either is true
Why because Biden couldn’t touch them by law,yet we know Trump is willing to do anything to cover up anything that might be against his interests and can’t destroy these files tells me that the facts are real
Maxwell did not exhaust her appeals until early this year. I don't think they could release much of anything without jeopardizing the case against her.
my game theory was that trump got fucken played by sleepy joe and now has to either sit on them and piss off a chunk of his voters or release them and effectively relinquish all political power, but now it just seems like he doesn't want people seeing him slick willie
It is not Trump or Clinton, it is people who are really important, the ones who run banks, own railroads, that sort of person. Great wealth is often held by perverts.
Knowing Biden, I assumed he believed Trump wasn’t going to run again and thought it wouldn’t help America to drag a former president’s name through the mud, no matter how much of a piece of shit he was. But, that’s because Biden is classy and by the time he realized Trump was going to run again, he knew releasing them at that time would make them suspicious to everyone due to the timing.
Plus, releasing the files during Biden's term would have required Garland to do something at all about Trump, and he clearly wasn't interested in that.
Because, the purpose of PEDO island was to get dirt on US politicians and business people to use to gain leverage for Israeli intelligence. It's embarrassing and both parties have people who will all go down together if the truth got out.
When it comes to Israel, war and pedos the country is uniparty. Everyone currently in power or pretending to fight them are linked to the case. If this actually leads to anything and it was because of people like Boebert (not saying dem votes arent as important) it is truly hilarious.
Fun fact: During Biden's term, the Epstein files were under lock-and-key due to a court order. So basically this is why they couldn't be revealed to the public.
DoJ doesn't release files while the case is under pending litigation.
Which, btw, is what's gonna happen to the case after they vote to release the files. Bondi, who has said there's nothing to see will suddenly see stuff that requires them to open an investigation...so they can then claim they'd like to release but "it's under investigation."
I know it will never happen, but I'd love to see someone on Team Tramp try saying that in front of a judge only for the judge to hit them with contempt and perjury charges.
The case was active during almost the entire Biden administration, Maxwell wasn't convicted until the 2024 election cycle was in full swing, the earliest they could have released would have been about a month before the election, and it would have been called as election interference or some shit.
There’s a big push across social media platforms to eliminate plea deals for sex offenders. The ultimate goal is to protect children so keeping them locked up is the smart move. Especially when statistically there is no cure for it.
Well, property crimes are actually way higher than sex crimes for recidivism. Car theft, burglary, larceny and such. Some people just can't stop stealing shit. Sex offenders are pretty far down the list.
Only one party is playing by the rules. The current admin is sicking the DoJ on California's redistricting even though they held a vote to allow it, unlike Texas. Even if SCOTUS decides "only for thee, and not for me", they should pull an Ohio and ignore their ruling and use the redrawn districts anyways. Biden tried his damnedest to return us to some semblance of normal. At this point I feel normal is long gone; this is the new normal, and it absolutely sucks.
Another reason is that the investigation covered tons of personal information for victims and doesn't contain sufficient incriminating evidence so there was no legal reason to make it public other than to destroy reputations.
Skinner explained it perfectly. It's unfortunate Democrats play by the rules like idiots when they are in power, otherwise these would have been reeased years ago
The problem, of course, is that if dems didn't "play by the rules" then what exactly is the point of having rules? Why even have society? One side wants everything to burn and the other side doesn't. It's easier to destroy than to maintain or create, and blame is easier to give than receive.
Agreed. I find it fascinating that many people want dems to break the rules to combat republicans breaking rules. But the thing is, if dems ultimately win this fight by breaking rules, do we really think dems will just go back to playing fair again?
One side wants to burn everything and is willing to flout rule of law to do so, bypassing timing and legal restrictions. The other side keeps going "oh, surely punishing them using the rules will work". If one side is cheating constantly, CHANGE THE FUCKING RULES AND NAIL THEM TO A FUCKING WALL. It's fucking PATHETIC. But we should have expected no less when Obama went all centrist instead of wielding his political capital with extreme prejudice to clean house.
Centrist? Obama was the best conservative president we ever had, in terms of policy. Keeping two wars going. Deporting people. Did very little to stop school shootings. Even the ACA was test-driven by Mitt Romney in Massachusetts before being adapted for national deployment. And what did he get for his trouble? Birtherism, Tan Suitism, and shit all over "Obamacare."
teddybearsucide
Trump had them in mid 2019 so less than Biden. Still disturbing that Biden didn't do anything with this even if 10x more democrats were in the files. I'm guessing a lot of influential democrats were also in the files or they didn't have enough evidence against trump. It's rather disturbing if either is true
CoarseAndSalty
Kooky idea. Why don't we find out?
paulpagz838
Why because Biden couldn’t touch them by law,yet we know Trump is willing to do anything to cover up anything that might be against his interests and can’t destroy these files tells me that the facts are real
EstoyPoopis
God, I hope there is a shitton of democrat old fucks in there, too. That party needs a serious shake up if it is going to lead la resistance.
etherbunny41
Remind them who they work for: https://blackoutthesystem.com/
BurlRavenscroft
The 3 years they had to do something was wasted and can’t be forgiven
Centroid
Because their rich donors are in it
unremarkableasterisk
Maxwell did not exhaust her appeals until early this year. I don't think they could release much of anything without jeopardizing the case against her.
G081
so these files. the ones on someone’s desk but never existed ?
michaelfire
Epstein Honey Trap-Google Maxwell's father, Israel ties https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-writer-who-broke-epstein-case-a-rumored-mossad-link-is-worth-digging-iing-into">https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-writer-who-broke-epstein-case-a-rumored-mossad-linto ">ing-into">https://www.timesofisrael.conk-is-wo">nto ">ing">m/for-wr">nk-is-wo">nto ">ing-into">https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-writer-who-broke-epstein-case-a-rumored-mossad-link-is-worth-digging-into https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/jeffrey-epstein-steven-hoffenberg-intelligence-agencies-spy-1197708/ http://www.jpost.com/israel-news/jeffrey-epstein-may-have-had-links-to-israeli-leaders-the-rolling-stone-674244 www.nytimes.com/2019/08/12/business/jeffrey-epstein-interview.html /gallery/arpNy8U
medimr
Yes, Biden sold us down the river for the same reason Trump is hiding them. Obvious corruption and guilt.
modestmeece
…the records were sealed during Biden’s term. He couldn’t release them?
dontrike
Always dumb asses like these that blame someone else for the shit Republicans do.
OriginalAndWitty
All this time Trumpers were saying Clinton was in the files... welp, they were right.
MeeseOnABeam
my game theory was that trump got fucken played by sleepy joe and now has to either sit on them and piss off a chunk of his voters or release them and effectively relinquish all political power, but now it just seems like he doesn't want people seeing him slick willie
scootwhoman
It is not Trump or Clinton, it is people who are really important, the ones who run banks, own railroads, that sort of person. Great wealth is often held by perverts.
halfabubbleoff
Because after J6, 34 felony convictions, and other legal entanglements, who would have thought trump would be president again?
meganical
Knowing Biden, I assumed he believed Trump wasn’t going to run again and thought it wouldn’t help America to drag a former president’s name through the mud, no matter how much of a piece of shit he was. But, that’s because Biden is classy and by the time he realized Trump was going to run again, he knew releasing them at that time would make them suspicious to everyone due to the timing.
medimr
And we all get to pay the price for that abject stupidity, while he's too old to care how much damage it did to the country. Fantastic.
cgt9803
Biden was pretty scrupulous over keeping hands off the DOJ as Presidents are supposed to.
EroticZombiePants
Plus, releasing the files during Biden's term would have required Garland to do something at all about Trump, and he clearly wasn't interested in that.
OmnipotentBeing
Because, the purpose of PEDO island was to get dirt on US politicians and business people to use to gain leverage for Israeli intelligence. It's embarrassing and both parties have people who will all go down together if the truth got out.
moxiefoxxy
And then women will inherit the earth
Whatdoyousaytoanicecupoftea
Its as obvious as the genocide in Gazza
PlayingInGraveyards
100
DrOsmium
Not just both sides of politics, but the rich fuckheads in business and finance who own the politicians, too.
Goblonicfart
When it comes to Israel, war and pedos the country is uniparty. Everyone currently in power or pretending to fight them are linked to the case. If this actually leads to anything and it was because of people like Boebert (not saying dem votes arent as important) it is truly hilarious.
DanForArkansas
Because they are all in them.
Niagaran
Or none of them! /s
cytherians
Fun fact: During Biden's term, the Epstein files were under lock-and-key due to a court order. So basically this is why they couldn't be revealed to the public.
B3N15
It's almost like this is demonstrating why its a really stupid idea to politicize the Justice Department and the legal system. It hurts everyone.
UnattendedDeviant
DoJ doesn't release files while the case is under pending litigation.
Which, btw, is what's gonna happen to the case after they vote to release the files. Bondi, who has said there's nothing to see will suddenly see stuff that requires them to open an investigation...so they can then claim they'd like to release but "it's under investigation."
Marikhen
I know it will never happen, but I'd love to see someone on Team Tramp try saying that in front of a judge only for the judge to hit them with contempt and perjury charges.
Evi1Gav
The case was active during almost the entire Biden administration, Maxwell wasn't convicted until the 2024 election cycle was in full swing, the earliest they could have released would have been about a month before the election, and it would have been called as election interference or some shit.
ProficientInGifs
Saving this so I can come back to it when this happens.
TanithRosenbaum
Same
TanithRosenbaum
And it just happened /gallery/trump-has-successfully-blocked-release-of-epstein-files-trumps-urging-us-justice-department-to-probe-epstein-ties-with-democrats-files-are-now-part-of-active-investigation-preventing-release-only-democrats-will-be-investigat-3CFLVXt
ProficientInGifs
Absolutely wild
cameloDancer
Let them all fry. No kid diddlers should get any leniency.
azgrak1
There’s a big push across social media platforms to eliminate plea deals for sex offenders. The ultimate goal is to protect children so keeping them locked up is the smart move. Especially when statistically there is no cure for it.
canadianreserve
Well, property crimes are actually way higher than sex crimes for recidivism. Car theft, burglary, larceny and such. Some people just can't stop stealing shit. Sex offenders are pretty far down the list.
nopo
I doubt it'll ever happen. The state likes plea deals too much to remove them as an option.
MoxieMonster
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YoureWaifuAShit
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SkinnerTBD
the files were sealed by the justice department while biden was in office. they were unsealed after trump started his second term.
WaxedApple
And as we all know the president is helpless to do anything that he really doesnt want to do
SirLantsBojangles
Did the CIA not know how to spy on Gmail accounts from 2011 to 2017?
stryhf
Only one party is playing by the rules. The current admin is sicking the DoJ on California's redistricting even though they held a vote to allow it, unlike Texas.
Even if SCOTUS decides "only for thee, and not for me", they should pull an Ohio and ignore their ruling and use the redrawn districts anyways.
Biden tried his damnedest to return us to some semblance of normal. At this point I feel normal is long gone; this is the new normal, and it absolutely sucks.
cgt9803
The Supreme Court sealed them until Trump was in office, another dirty corrupt SC deal
JoeT85
it's likely a 'Scorched Earth" thing where it'll be bad for a lot of people. Not just Trump
TerryCrews
Scorched Earth? Let if fuckin burn! https://media0.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPWE1NzM3M2U1eW5lMzRneWJ1YTY4engya3MzMzN4cjB1OGF5eWN6c3FkNmh2d3V6biZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/3o72FfM5HJydzafgUE/200w.webp
superdinglebudgie
TheSecondPiewackit
I know, but that doesn't address their disingenuous objection. This does.
blip2000004
Another reason is that the investigation covered tons of personal information for victims and doesn't contain sufficient incriminating evidence so there was no legal reason to make it public other than to destroy reputations.
Idonotbelievewehavecompany
Skinner explained it perfectly. It's unfortunate Democrats play by the rules like idiots when they are in power, otherwise these would have been reeased years ago
cuddleskunk
The problem, of course, is that if dems didn't "play by the rules" then what exactly is the point of having rules? Why even have society? One side wants everything to burn and the other side doesn't. It's easier to destroy than to maintain or create, and blame is easier to give than receive.
Poopoopeepeevagina
Agreed. I find it fascinating that many people want dems to break the rules to combat republicans breaking rules. But the thing is, if dems ultimately win this fight by breaking rules, do we really think dems will just go back to playing fair again?
wabitgirl
One side wants to burn everything and is willing to flout rule of law to do so, bypassing timing and legal restrictions. The other side keeps going "oh, surely punishing them using the rules will work". If one side is cheating constantly, CHANGE THE FUCKING RULES AND NAIL THEM TO A FUCKING WALL. It's fucking PATHETIC. But we should have expected no less when Obama went all centrist instead of wielding his political capital with extreme prejudice to clean house.
TheDirtySanchezBros
I like you. We’re gonna be internet friends.
crazyspelling
Centrist? Obama was the best conservative president we ever had, in terms of policy. Keeping two wars going. Deporting people. Did very little to stop school shootings. Even the ACA was test-driven by Mitt Romney in Massachusetts before being adapted for national deployment. And what did he get for his trouble? Birtherism, Tan Suitism, and shit all over "Obamacare."