Political harm? Meaning it prevented him from ascending to the highest office in the land? That kind? Reminds me of his bullshit "defamation" suit against the BBC.
He's not saying he isn't a pedophile, he's saying that the truth coming out about it, was politically harmful. He's gonna give magats reasons fucking kids is ok, and they'll repeat it. This timeline fucking sucks.
I’m surprised no families have sued HIM for causing the deaths of loved ones who listened to his advice that COVID was a hoax or to take that horse medicine that basically wrecked human intestines
Trump Derangement Syndrome is what DJT suffers from, similar to Trump Dementia Syndrome, and Trump-Epstein Syndrome, Trump suffers from all 3, allegedly.
I can't remember is it was a specifically US or a UK thing, but I have some vague recollection of a legal defence that was something like "this person can't claim defamation, they're already known to be awful"
Not "what was said was provably true (so not defamation)" (again, not sure if that's specifically US or UK) and not "it was clearly stated as an opinion, not a fact" (UK thing, not sure if US as well)
Just "It's not defamation, they didn't get hurt, everyone hated them already"
NPR has been running a series on China vs US, comparing China as an engineering society, and the US as a lawyer society. Drowsy Donnie is the epitome of that view.
Discovery consist of each side producing millions of pages or documents…all from the Epstein files.
From the estate’s side, it would be proof of truthful statements and lack of malice. From Trump’s side, it would be because his incompetent lawyers submitted the wrong documents.
I saw today in the tram on my way home, in switzerland, that the orange shitstain wants to make a Maga concert along the Superbowl, because the Superbowl is too anti-Maga. The Superbowl!
Here i thought he couldnt be more delusional... (and have a tiny dick and a rice paper thin ego)
This is one of the rules that Roy Cohn thought Trump: 1) Never apologize or admit wrongdoing, ever. 2) Always counter-attack, and always with greater force than you received. 3) Use the legal system as a weapon, not a recourse for justice. 4) Manipulate the media ruthlessly. 5) Use fear as both shield and sword. 6) Build a fortress of loyalty around yourself.
BTW Roy Cohn was a powerful and controversial lawyer who became Donald Trump’s mentor during the 1970s, profoundly shaping his approach to business, media, and power. Their relationship began in 1973 when Cohn represented Trump and his father in a federal lawsuit accusing them of racial discrimination in their housing rentals.
Go for it. Discovery is going to be hilarious, cuz it would require the unredacted Epstein files to be submitted into evidence for him to make his argument and he would have to argue that they are untrue... videos of him raping kids would need to be argued against, in court.
Also, your own actions causing you 'political harm' is not a thing, anywhere.
Discovery isn't filed with the court, it's exchanged between parties. The public would never see it. And even if it's an exhibit to a public filing it could be filed under seal which would also prevent the public from seeing it.
Depositions and Discovery can become public once they are filed with the court to make motions or introduce evidence.
My point was more to him having to sit in a chair and asked direct questions where he would admit to raping children or commit perjury or be presented with pics and video and then asked questions...
This, like other trump lawsuits, is a lie... he will never go thru with it cuz he has nothing to gain and everything to lose... most of his simps don't care that he raped kids
All evidence that comes up during discovery is entered into the public record, bud. That information could potentially be sealed by a court order, but that's why the Freedom of Information Act exists.
No it isn't. Responses to RFDs RFAs Rogs etc. aren't filed with the court and the production of documents responsive to same are also not filed with the court.
Your being pedantic. The point of discovery is to find evidence to prove your side of the case. That evidence will be presented in court and made a part of the public record.
The evidence Epsteins estate will present will be to prove Trump did everything and worse than what has been aledged.
This is what everyone understand people are saying when they say "can't wait for discovery".
Not pedantic, this is literally the legal procedure. No you won't see the document productions because they are not filed with the court. Parts pertinent to the motions filed depending upon the causes of actions may be used as exhibits, which may or may not be filed under seal. You would see MAYBE less than 1% or what was produced in discovery used in public filings.
Listen I can't help that you don't know how discovery in the law works and are unwilling to listen to someone who does. Discovery is a legal term in a legal process. I'm just telling you how it works.
Bojovnik84
Says the asshole who CAMPAIGNED on it. Fuck this fucking timeline.
literallymike
Political harm? Meaning it prevented him from ascending to the highest office in the land? That kind? Reminds me of his bullshit "defamation" suit against the BBC.
Bundalicious
He's not saying he isn't a pedophile, he's saying that the truth coming out about it, was politically harmful. He's gonna give magats reasons fucking kids is ok, and they'll repeat it. This timeline fucking sucks.
Sebastopol140
What the fucking fuck???
naomiMoonBeast
Stop wasting taxpayer money and get out of the White House
meganical
I’m surprised no families have sued HIM for causing the deaths of loved ones who listened to his advice that COVID was a hoax or to take that horse medicine that basically wrecked human intestines
VulaApha
Trump Derangement Syndrome is what DJT suffers from, similar to Trump Dementia Syndrome, and Trump-Epstein Syndrome, Trump suffers from all 3, allegedly.
HonHomes
I can't remember is it was a specifically US or a UK thing, but I have some vague recollection of a legal defence that was something like "this person can't claim defamation, they're already known to be awful"
Not "what was said was provably true (so not defamation)" (again, not sure if that's specifically US or UK) and not "it was clearly stated as an opinion, not a fact" (UK thing, not sure if US as well)
Just "It's not defamation, they didn't get hurt, everyone hated them already"
Cptbluebeard7
Please do, fucking idiot would be literally saying he did it all with the evidence brought forward.
m0nkeymagic
Ugh. I only want to see this ballsack’s face again when we are all celebrating his death.
MilledGrist
There a legal thing called "Discovery" that would sink Trump.
3rdoption
Can I sue him for political harm?
areyouelonmusk
Yes, but you will probably have your life destroyed
SecurityBadger
NPR has been running a series on China vs US, comparing China as an engineering society, and the US as a lawyer society. Drowsy Donnie is the epitome of that view.
Dracology
Sounds like a real good way to end up having literally everything out in the open without FBI getting a chance to redact anything
75dmcnamara10
Well, there’s not that much pushback so…
RIxspacexCK
deny everything, admit nothing, attack
stayme
Don’t forget delay
karlfrack
Lie. Mislead. Deflect. Redirect. Lie. Delay. Attack. Lie. Repeat.
Dannyalcatraz
Discovery consist of each side producing millions of pages or documents…all from the Epstein files.
From the estate’s side, it would be proof of truthful statements and lack of malice. From Trump’s side, it would be because his incompetent lawyers submitted the wrong documents.
veesee
America should class action his ass for irreparable harm to their reputations.
He's stolen enough money for everyone y'all might be able to afford some eggs
Clayman8
I saw today in the tram on my way home, in switzerland, that the orange shitstain wants to make a Maga concert along the Superbowl, because the Superbowl is too anti-Maga. The Superbowl!
Here i thought he couldnt be more delusional... (and have a tiny dick and a rice paper thin ego)
SmashySashimi
Sorry, WHICH one of you died under unusual circumstances?
BikeTrailsAndWaggingTails
This is one of the rules that Roy Cohn thought Trump:
1) Never apologize or admit wrongdoing, ever.
2) Always counter-attack, and always with greater force than you received.
3) Use the legal system as a weapon, not a recourse for justice.
4) Manipulate the media ruthlessly.
5) Use fear as both shield and sword.
6) Build a fortress of loyalty around yourself.
BikeTrailsAndWaggingTails
BTW Roy Cohn was a powerful and controversial lawyer who became Donald Trump’s mentor during the 1970s, profoundly shaping his approach to business, media, and power. Their relationship began in 1973 when Cohn represented Trump and his father in a federal lawsuit accusing them of racial discrimination in their housing rentals.
Everyonesfavorite
10/10 title
bippityboppitybuttsex
Go for it. Discovery is going to be hilarious, cuz it would require the unredacted Epstein files to be submitted into evidence for him to make his argument and he would have to argue that they are untrue... videos of him raping kids would need to be argued against, in court.
Also, your own actions causing you 'political harm' is not a thing, anywhere.
DYLANLEE79
Discovery isn't filed with the court, it's exchanged between parties. The public would never see it. And even if it's an exhibit to a public filing it could be filed under seal which would also prevent the public from seeing it.
bippityboppitybuttsex
Depositions and Discovery can become public once they are filed with the court to make motions or introduce evidence.
My point was more to him having to sit in a chair and asked direct questions where he would admit to raping children or commit perjury or be presented with pics and video and then asked questions...
This, like other trump lawsuits, is a lie... he will never go thru with it cuz he has nothing to gain and everything to lose... most of his simps don't care that he raped kids
RalphH
Please do it, please do it.
foreverinchains
Let him try it.
I'm sure discovery will be enlightening, to say the least.
earthtokelly127001
This.
LeTourdeFrance
The only defence he knows is attack.
stukajr
Put Drumpf into an 8 hour, video recorded multi-day deposition, where he'll ramble on and incriminate himself; then crap his pants.
DesperateDunn365
How is that different from any other day?
Fendeezy
Then? He would have crap his pants 10 times over in that amount of time.
DYLANLEE79
Discovery isn't filed so the public would never see it. Discovery is exchanged between parties, it's not part of the court record.
JustLettingPeopleBeWrong
ITT: pedantic, nitpicky gobshite is pedantic, nitpicky.
foreverinchains
All evidence that comes up during discovery is entered into the public record, bud. That information could potentially be sealed by a court order, but that's why the Freedom of Information Act exists.
DYLANLEE79
No it isn't. Responses to RFDs RFAs Rogs etc. aren't filed with the court and the production of documents responsive to same are also not filed with the court.
mrthewhitee
Your being pedantic. The point of discovery is to find evidence to prove your side of the case. That evidence will be presented in court and made a part of the public record.
The evidence Epsteins estate will present will be to prove Trump did everything and worse than what has been aledged.
This is what everyone understand people are saying when they say "can't wait for discovery".
DYLANLEE79
Not pedantic, this is literally the legal procedure. No you won't see the document productions because they are not filed with the court. Parts pertinent to the motions filed depending upon the causes of actions may be used as exhibits, which may or may not be filed under seal. You would see MAYBE less than 1% or what was produced in discovery used in public filings.
foreverinchains
It really seems like you don't know what pedantic means.
DYLANLEE79
Does it mean I know how this shit actually works as opposed to arm chair experts?
mrthewhitee
It is pedantry whether you like it or not. Layman understood what the person was alluding to when they referenced discovery.
The specific legal procedures is superfluous to the conversation
That's the definition of pedantry
DYLANLEE79
Listen I can't help that you don't know how discovery in the law works and are unwilling to listen to someone who does. Discovery is a legal term in a legal process. I'm just telling you how it works.
throwaway12345432
How much more fucking evidence do we need. Take him to fucking trial and when he's found guilty, lock him up. Then take his kids to trial.
Drakesfear
Unfortunately, he needs impeached and removed first. Unlucky with GOP control. Then Vance would be in control and I would 100% see him pardon Trump in the first minute. Completely sad, and not justice. But that's how it would play out.
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Sensiblyinteresting
There are apparently videos of him doing stuff. I won't be happy til those are released and MAGA gets to watch their savior suck off a horse
throwaway12345432
Then when the kids are found guilty, execute them too. Then, after his kids have been executed for their crimes, execute him.
RipThemUpRatchet
Nah, give them prison for life and give them jail jobs cleaning toilets. They’d probably whoops themselves