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Pyramid of the Sun, Teotihuacan
This is the Pyramid of the Sun in Teotihuacan, located outside of Mexico City. It is NOT Aztec and it is NOT Maya. Far too common misconceptions. This is a Teotihuacano temple part of the Teotihuacan civilization that existed 625 years BEFORE the Aztec civilization even existed. This civilization shared no co existence with the Aztec, however it did share coexistence with the Maya who lived roughly 500 miles to the south of this city. The Teotihuacan civilization actually influenced the Maya civilization. In fact on January 17th year 378 A.D. Teotihuacan conquered the Maya city of Tikal, in present day Guatemala and spread their influence in the Maya world. In the year 700 A.D. Teotihuacan was abandoned, its residents and royalty fled. Recent findings suggest that a massive volcanic eruption south of the city was responsible for this, as crops failed due to high levels of ash rendering the high population, estimated to be around 125,000, of the city unsustainable. Later, when the Aztecs came upon it for the first time, it is said they believed the gods had built the city and left it alone as a sacred place.
The Aztec Capital, Tenochtitlan
These are what Aztec temples looked like in the Capital of Tenochtitlan, the center of the Aztec Empire. It was a city built in the middle of a lake in the valley of Mexico. It was founded in the year 1325, during the time of the European Middle ages, which means it's not technically "ancient" in the way we think about Egypt or Greece. The famous English University of Oxford is older than the Aztec Civilization since that was said to be founded in the 11th Century whereas the Aztec civilization was founded in the 14th Century. When Hernan Cortes arrived in this great city, some of his conquistadors thought they were dreaming. It was unlike anything Europe had ever seen. For one, the city was very very clean, no litter or waste polluted the streets. Even more astonishing were the spectacular large temple pyramids of grand size and great in number that floated in the lake on large stone plazas with canals running through the streets. Not even Venice had this splendor.
The ghost of the Templo Mayor in the Zocalo square in Mexico City.
Cortes and the Spanish eventually conquered the Aztecs, and tore down every single Aztec temple, using the stones to build much of what is now the center square in Mexico City known as the Zocalo. The faded image of the main Aztec temple is where it once stood. As you can see the vast and large Mexico City Metropolitan Cathedral was build next to it using the stones from the temple. Across from it is the National Palace of Mexico where the seat of the Executive Branch of the Mexican Government lies. The lake and the canals of Tenochtitlan were all filled in until the lake was no more. This is why today, Mexico City is notorious for sinking deeper into the ground with every passing year. It is perhaps the largest city in the world that was literally built on top of a lake.
The Sun Stone
This is NOT the Maya calendar. This is an Aztec "calendar". Though the Aztec did share some similarities in the measurements of time, it kept popping up everywhere when the 2012 panic came around, this despite the fact that it was estimated to be made at the time when the Maya civilization was already at its end. Unfortunately due to the pervasiveness of this image, and the lack of scrutiny from the public, it is ubiquitously shared everywhere as "Maya".
"The Aztec Sun Stone (or Calendar Stone) depicts the five consecutive worlds of the sun from Aztec mythology. The stone is not, therefore, in any sense a functioning calendar, but rather it is an elaborately carved solar disk, which for the Aztecs and other Mesoamerican cultures represented rulership." - Ancient.Eu
One of the 7 Wonders of the World, Chichen Itza - UNESCO World Heritage Site
This is The Temple of Kukulkan, in Chichen Itza Yucatan. It is NOT Aztec, it is Maya. Named as one of the 7 Wonders of the World, Chichen Itza is perhaps the most well known and famous of the Maya sites. "Chichen Itza" is an Abbreviation of the Mayan Phrase "At the mouth of the well of the Itza". The Itzas were a Group of Mayans who Dominated the Area, thus the City named after them. This great pyramid is known as the Temple of Kukulkan, in honor of the their god, a feathered Serpent. It has 365 steps, one for each day of the year. Twice during the year at the equinox the shadow of the sun forms the body of a serpent on the steps of the temple. Estimates have it being built around the year 750 A.D. Although the Maya were incredible astronomers, architects, builders, mathematicians, farmers, artists, and warriors, they never developed the use of metal which means the Maya civilization was technically a "stone age" one.
The temple entrance to Pyramid of the Sorcerer in Uxmal.
To the Maya, their pyramids weren't just ordinary temples. They were interdimensional portals to realms of the living and the dead. The temple pyramid would act as a conduit for them to travel into other worlds. A royal king or queen would stand atop the entrance and practice bloodletting, a practice of piercing their penis or tongue in order for their royal blood to drip out onto sheets of paper below. The soaked sheets would be burned. The combination of smoke inhalation and blood loss would cause them to have visions and travel to visit their ancestors in the underworld or the heavens with the gods above. Most Maya pyramids were specifically designed for this purpose.
The Temple of Inscriptions, Palenque - UNESCO World Heritage Site
There are more pyramids in Mesoamerica than anywhere else in the world. However unlike the famous Egyptian ones they were not built to be tombs for their Kings. However this temple, the Temple of Inscriptions is a rare exception. The most famous Maya king known today, Pakal The Great, was buried inside of it, his sarcophagus lay to rest at the bottom of the temple.
The Sarcophagus of K'inich Janaab' Pakal (Pakal the Great)
Discovered in 1948 by a Mexican archaeologist, it remains one of the most enduring and most iconic pieces of art in the Maya world. It depicts the King underneath the Sacred Tree in the afterlife.
Mural at Bonampak, Lacandon Rainforest
Although there are an abundance of temples and pyramids in Mesoamerica, due to the tropical climate very few paintings have survived. There are literally only a handful of Maya paintings in the world. Only around 3-4 have ever been discovered. The Maya nobles and kings loved to glorify war and reveled in violence. In fact many of their surviving art attests to this violent way of life as frescos, some surviving, paintings, and statues around the Maya world depict sacrifices, torture, and the brutalizing of war captives. This mural in Bonampak depicts the Maya ruler of the city and his tortured war captives, most likely the nobles from a rival city, having their fingernails being been cut out & bleeding from their hands.
Map of the Maya world.
The Maya civilization was never a Kingdom ruled by a single ruler like Teotihuacan, nor were they ever an Empire like the Aztecs who came after them. Think of the Aztecs like the Romans, who were unified in their political power and geographical reach, an actual Empire. Think of the Maya like the Greeks, a peoples who shared a geographical region with a shared language, religion, and culture, but whom lived in polisis, independent city states. Each city of the Maya was ruled by it's own king and or religious authorities. Like Game of Thrones, the Maya were a hyper violent culture, frequently engaging in war with their neighbors and engaging in wars of conquest. Though occasional alliances with other city states would occur, the ancient Maya were NEVER unified politically.
Maya book known as a Codex
The Maya language is in fact one of only a few original languages around the world to develop on its own. This means it was not an offshoot or a deviation that has its roots or was influenced by any other language that came before it. It was entirely an original dialect. The Maya were the first people in the Americas to develop a writing system meaning that recorded history in the Americas literally starts with them. Unfortunately, in an effort to wipe out Maya culture, all of the Maya books were gathered up and burned by Diego de Landa in Izamal, Yucatan in the the 16th Century. Tragically, literally only a handful ever survived, and even more tragically don't belong to the Mexican people as they currently sit in a museum in Dresden, Germany.
"The American chronicle does not begin with the landing of Columbus or the arrival of the Pilgrims, but with the lives of the Maya kings in the 2nd Century B.C.. We who live in this part of the world inherit a written history two millennia old and as important to us as the history of the ancient Egyptians or the Chinese, a history equal in longevity to that of Europe or Asia" - A Forest of Kings, Linda Schele
Machu Picchu, Peru
This is Machu Picchu in the Andes. It is NOT Aztec and it is NOT Maya. It is Inca. And though I won't be going into the Inca today it is important to distinguish this place apart from those aforementioned. The Inca were a large empire in South America, not Central America, who shared nearly nothing, save what are human commonalities, in common with the Aztec, Maya, or Teotihuacan civilizations in terms of architecture, language, culture, farming, religion, worship, war, or art. The Inca civilization was separated by over 1,000 miles from that of the Maya.
100% PURE BULLSHIT
Lastly, an end to this fucking bullshit, which is not only made up speculation in order to lure the gullible for ratings, it's actually incredibly insulting to the heritage of these great civilizations. I won't even waste my time bother explaining why but will simply say that whoever suggests that the Maya, Aztec, Teotihuacan, or Inca couldn't have built their great cities and temples by themselves and needed the help of aliens can indeed go fuck themselves.
*I AM Maya, and I have done a lot of research on it, exploring these places in person, talking to the workers of these sites, and reading up on it by archaeologists. I put this up because I was tired of seeing all of these misconceptions and errors everywhere. It's time these civilizations got the respect they deserved by having these clarifications pointed out I thought so I wanted this post to be the antidote for all of the fake "knowledge" out there. Feel free to literally fact check anything I have said and see if I am wrong ;)
My sources are "Cracking the Maya Code", "Conquistadors" PBS, "Forest of Kings" by Linda Schele, and my own travels in Meso America
Also check out these great docs:
http://www.pbs.org/wnet/secrets/teotihuacans-lost-kings-full-episode/3052
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/ancient/cracking-maya-code.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYgsN31l0hU
berlinson
Wait, what? People actually think Ancient Ailens is factual? Ohh right, of course, this is how Trump is so popular..
BllackViper
Mmm chicken pizza....
Bcrunkface
Freedom Rita's Chichen Itza Bitchin' Ass Screechin Pizza
PompatusOfLove
When Cortez landed, "Wild Yucatan man" fled north where he started a new civilization. This place is now known as Florida.
WildYucatanMan
https://media.giphy.com/media/8hSPD2Yn4PuUM/giphy.gif
HipHopBukowski
The mas you know!
warmghost
As an archaeologist...
WildYucatanMan
BlownByTheMonsignor
I just want a 40-ton Olmec head to put in the front yard and stare at the neighbors
BlownByTheMonsignor
Thank you for that last one. Erich von Daniken books are fun speculation but he spawned a generation of twats who truly believe that shit
abbreviated
"It is Dr. Daniel Jackson's theory that the Teotihuacan civilization was destroyed by the Goa'uld..."
MostIndeedlySo
And that the pyramids are actually landing platforms for space ships. You'd think it's a far out theory... But it's not.
clubmilksontoast
Wut?
PatellaMeImHumerus
Love it when I see archaeology posts here. Makes me feel better for procrastinating when I know we're all here
cogs
When I visited a friend in Mexico City, we spent a morning at the Museo Nacional de Antropologia. I could have spent weeks there.
shadowfox
Aztecs did know metalurgy, as they had intricate gold and silver pieces. They just did not know iron.
Fredfinks
That is why the business shirt never took off in SA culture.
bananafats1
Gracias, me encantó. Escribe más posts así.
WildYucatanMan
Mas para llegar
miloandelvis
I wanted to clutch my Anthropology degree and weep tears of joy as I read this.
feryooday
Do you work in the anthropology field still?
WildYucatanMan
Thanks ;)
theguyfromtheplace
Posts like this are why we need to be able to follow certain users. Great post.
PlantainSuperNova
The ancient aliens theory is all sorta of stupid, but it's mostly just racist.
FicklePickle13
And it's actually worse than the "Vikings/Ancient Europeans/Phoenicians built it" crap because it's a secret sort of racist.
fuhsmc
I hope Diego is sharing afterlife experiences with the assholes who burned down the Library of Alexandria.
eclecsys
I'm Mexican and I didn't know some bits of this. Great post!
letmeslipintosomethingmoreFreudian
Same!
Manse84
Went to Tulum on my honeymoon, got to climb to the top of one of the pyramids. Looking over the jungle and seeing other pyramids in the 1/
Manse84
2/ trees was one of the coolest memories I have of that trip. Oh, and getting down that pyramid was fucking frightening.
WildYucatanMan
Ah yes, Coba. Once I climbed it during a rainstorm, it was incredible.
Manse84
3/ can't edit for some reason, but i was wrong. It was Coba, not Tulum. I think. I may have been hungover on the bus.
themaskedhobo
Ancient Aliens says fuck you to every ones ancestry. It shouldn't be on tv let alone on The History Channel
Romale
ignore this guy, clearly a fed trying to cover up the lizard people
themaskedhobo
https://youtu.be/jEUJfEBNgmM?t=2
HoboZILLA
Cool stuff, my current archeology Proffessor is actually one of the lead dig researchers at Teotihuacan. Shes doing some cool stuff there.
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storstyggelaking
I once had my girlfriend distract an archaeologist in Tikal so I could scavenge a temple for orichalcum beads. Good times.
Lucidacide
I did the exact same thing ! But that archaeologist was a sham, stealing an artifact and disappearing behind some secret door. How rude.
ToLazyToDoSomethingAboutTheShitHappeningHere
Can she do a backflip?
Midnightwhiskey
Cool stuff you say?
tehzpoon
Easytotell
What school? Is it true they're exploring the tunnels underneath it now?
HoboZILLA
Yes it is, she's one of the leads on that project. Works at George Mason University
HoboZILLA
More specifically she's working on the Sun Temple
WildYucatanMan
ASU?
Easytotell
Thanks for this OP. Native Mexican here. Feels refreshing to see. Is that your tag in the pics up there? pretty awe-some shots
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Easytotell
No sabre hasta que vaya a buscar mis raises, pero por horita yo digo que soy del estado de Mexico.
HoboZILLA
Oh shoot I didn't check my phone for awhile sorry, George Mason University
BigFag
#1 PRAISE THE SUN
oddthought
B'antiox xaq aawe! Jwaal chaab'ilat! (Q'eqchi') ¡Muchas gracias por lo que has compartido, y espero que continues así!
WildYucatanMan
;)
WildYucatanMan
Pongo los mitos Mayas próximamente
Raider60
THANK YOU!!! For showing nothing but facts man. I love it when our culture is shared with the world. And thanks for making a clear
Raider60
Distinction between all of the civilizations that you mentioned. Unlike the other post that had Emiliano Zapata as the main man in Mexico's
Raider60
Independence... Smdh. Dude wasn't even born then. Again, thanks for showing the true history of our culture!
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Raider60
Me da tristeza su pendejes.
WildYucatanMan
Pos claro hombre, puro orgullo mexicano
Raider60
Aguevo!!
EverydayIdleness
Crazy how the Egyptians built pyramids in America too. And people say aliens didn't help them?
nattesheim
By the way fuck downvoters in advance. And may aliens f.y.m. too Mr. "Everydayshit"
tallquasi
Funny how people all over the globe discovered a way to stack stones and bricks that won't fall over for a long time.
Cainstrodamus
Aligned to true north, and to the same proportion as earth's circumference to its North Pole radius.. Not saying aliens, but intelligence.
superluminary
Pick two random numbers. Look in the vast pool of other numbers that exist. Find two more numbers that more or less correlate. Case closed.
Cainstrodamus
With numerous numeric correlations, it's tough to pass off the megalithic architecture as merely tombs or altars. They represent knowledge..
vahnn
God Bless the US of A and all its transoceanic Egyptian pyramids. Thanks, Aliens! (And God!)
nattesheim
Aliens also helped the Russians to conquer the Space before than anybody else. It's written in History for now and ever.
demonhawk
Went to chichen itza last year and it was neat, but it's really a shame that they allow all the vendors to trespass on the site
Chalybos
Went there in '96. The view from the top of the temple was astounding. I think that was just before they stopped allowing you to climb it.
WildYucatanMan
Tourism is the biggest source of revenue there, so I'm not that bothered by it, especially since many other places don't have a bazzar
WildYucatanMan
Actually, its been like that since it was a tourist site. I went for the first time in 08 and it was still like that.
Soundoftesticles
Doesnt it look obvious? http://imgur.com/mOPOTci
SwarmLord
Smoke corn everyday
WildYucatanMan
When this discovery was made it spawned the whole "Ancient Aliens" bullshit because an someone wrote the book "Chariots of the Gods?"
daguq
Yeah, Erich Von "Hits the Bong" Danikan -
WildYucatanMan
the undecuated thought he was in the control pit of a spacecraft, but those who know Maya mythology know its the Sacred Tree
FsImgur
Ok then - show us some other depictions of this 'Sacred Tree' that resemble said spaceship.
ZebraCockSandwich
what the hell kind of fuckwit looks at that and their first thought is "oh yeah. thats a spaceship" thats not just uneducated thats idiocy.
FaecalJacksonPollock
To play devil's advocate, I don't exactly think "tree" when I see that either. 'Course, I agree that "spaceship" is just taking the piss.
teeph
One of the things I find so interesting about central/South American cultures like these is just how *alien* (not "alien" alien, just
teeph
wholly "other" from other cultures) the art, writing, language, etc. is. Post says it all developed independently, which kind of explains
FicklePickle13
Yeah, one does need a bit more familiarity with typical Maya stylization of stuff to immediately see 'tree'.
Cossi499
Climbed the pyramid at Coba last month while in Mexico what an awesome history you guys have.
WildYucatanMan
Thanks. :) Coba was the very first place I ever visited. It was so exotic. Check out my link in the top comment to see others.
Fredfinks
Did you symbolically act out rolling a headless corpse down the steps? For the glory of sun god
Cossi499
Opportunities missed.
evil66gurl
I tried to get my husband to let me reenact that with him but he said no when we visited.
turbodog
And they did it all without the horse, or the wheel.
WildYucatanMan
http://www.omega-level.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/Bryan-Cranston.gif
Thethingfromtheshadows
Makes you wonder when, if left to there own devices, they may have invented it. Seeing as they'd been around so long, likely not for a while
WildYucatanMan
I think the Maya actually discovered the wheel but didn't have use for it. Wheels are useless in the rainforest
WildYucatanMan
got to double check that though
feryooday
They did have causeways though, they're awesome to see from LIDAR images
WildYucatanMan
Yes they did, I've been on some of them in Coba. They are called Sacbeob
Thethingfromtheshadows
That's pretty fascinating if so. Btw, good post. That comparison of the Mayans to the Greeks was intriguing. Wasn't aware they were so spilt
PorkFriedSquirrel
So, you're saying it was aliens?
TheOriginalMightyMax
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YskhRbGPt2k
PleaseDontRespondToMySarcasticCommentsWithASeriousReply
repostal
Yes, yes it was, at least this guy says it, so it must be true
mmike1
Well if he is onboard, I am too.
TheEBOLAS
Ancient ones.
baumbastical
I've seen stargate. It's goa'uld
gaugetx
From what i have gathered reading this, it was aliens.
Thatguyfromtheotherday
odiervr
Perhaps !
FicklePickle13
Of course aliens built the Statue of Liberty, there's no other sensible explanation.
MostIndeedlySo
Yeah, man! I mean, what did the French supposedly do? Ship it to New York by boat? Ha! Let me laugh even harder!
JeffinNC
Be careful because if it was aliens who built it then trump would want to build a wall and have them pay for it.
JDonuts
http://imgur.com/I1S1pSK
TurnpikeMFA
Stargate is a great documentary.
DildoHaeuptling
Exactly what I've read.
Bystandr
If this takes top comment (and it may) it will be funny
FsImgur
The @OP is definitely an alien. Trying to convince us this wasn't aliens, now that we know it was aliens.
DrunkenWeasel
I believe they prefer the term ancient astronauts.
CannedBread1
As some ancient alien theorists believe
EmperorLizard
Hey, there's no proof that it wasn't aliens...
polkjameskpolk
He's not saying it isn't aliens, but... It isn't aliens.
oZsh1rts
I thought the Predators built them all ? You know, for lolz.
WildYucatanMan
http://unbounce.com/photos/yoy5oht.gif
WildYucatanMan
http://www.openminds.tv/wp-content/uploads/Degrasse-not-aliens.jpg
MLGsamantha
eetsumkaus
My dad watches these. I truly think History Channel gave up on regular programs and resorted to presenting interesting history this way 1/2
eetsumkaus
2/2 Like one day they said "what's a great way to bring up obscure history facts and get people watching? Oh yeah, ALIENS!"
DarkUranium
Well, talking about stopping aliens by building a wall seems to be working for Trump.
BaNaNaNaNaNaNaNaNaNaNaNaNaNaNaNaBATMAN
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thatdudefromoregon
His only actual degree is in sports sciences. He's qualified to be a PE teacher.
DarkMaster98
DiabolicPenguin
*Bitch it might be
TyroneRogers
I prefer this one:
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WildYucatanMan
Stay tuned, next post will be about the amazing but unheard and unknown Maya mythology, its heroes, its villains, and their creation.
rbudrick
Fuck yeah, OP. Been studying Mayan language for years...so few resources compared to other languages.
ByeLittleSebastian
Just leaving my dot .
dkevox
Yes please do!!! I would love to learn about their mythology!
MJSpice
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ImLukeSkywalkerImHereToRescueYou
Thanks for this post! I lived in the Tecamac area and also near el Zocalo as a missionary, and getting to tour #1 , #2 , and #3 was awesome
ImStillFlying
Dude and/or Lady, I appreciate your dropping the knowledge bomb. I always enjoy learning more about these civilizations.
imullofmachine
Great post, btw. Looking forward to the next
ArtisticLiverfailure
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imullofmachine
Lodi dodi
sams2989
please talk more about the Incas!
h0neybunchesofg0ats
Thank you for this post! My father studied ancient Mexico extensively and taught me everything in this post, as well as a few words of 1/?
h0neybunchesofg0ats
the Aztec language, Nahuatl. I saw a repro of the Bonampak Mural at Yale when I was a child and it was amazing. My dad and I twitch when 2/?
h0neybunchesofg0ats
pop culture uses Mayan images when talking about the Aztecs and vice versa. You're doing Quetzalcoatl's work!
WildYucatanMan
Awesome , glad to hear it! What was his profession?
h0neybunchesofg0ats
Anthropologist, mostly. With a great interest in Mesoamerica and the Aztec specifically. He took my mom to Mexico City for their honeymoon!
busdriverdan
Please do! I love mythology but I haven't seen anything about mayan yet!
BallsackHippo
The only Mesoamerican deities that I know are Huitzilopochtli, Tezcatlipoca & Quetzalcoatl, because of the novel serie Everworld. :D
WarDragon1984
Tagging this to watch for next post.
imkawaiibatman
Dooot
Clitgore
And the olmecs?
ImmortalSquid
As a Mexican American who has always been in love with the native culture and mythology, thank you ♡
isthisURLtheoneeveryonesees
This is awesome man! I have some Mayan blood from my father's side, so I'm always trying to learn more about them, thanks for this post!
KingOfTheCasuals
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fatfury
ilu ty
Arothin
Where are the sources? We just went over this today in history and i would love to show up the teacher :)
WildYucatanMan
Well, most of it I wrote from memory. I've studied the Maya for years, but look up "A Forest of Kings" and "Cracking the Maya Code"
MajesticIguana
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ridoshi
Account dot
Omnislash9
oooo, like Xibalba?
WildYucatanMan
yes
404yoLife
Dot
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,
DakianDelomast
THANK YOU FOR THIS.
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Enkimesh
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cantthinkofonebutok
i need to be able to subscribe to users at times like this
SeeSnootMustBoop
YESSS!!!
downofathistle
Please feature as much of Kukulkan as possible - historically coincides with an early mediaeval Irish mythology that sounds similar
downofathistle
(Not saying the myths are the same, but there are interesting common tropes in myths, especially ones C5th-9th AD)
ojakojako
Which myth is this, please? Just curious
pyronoia
Kukulkan sounds like Cú Chulainn, the name of an Irish hero. It's a similarity of name only though.
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PhilDunphyIsMySpiritAnimal
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Cools
theneondemon
Muchas gracias por la información, aprendí más sobre mi cultura.
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isayfuckoff
I had the ancient aliens host call me an asshole once
PuppermintJerryJr
Been waiting for this in the mythology section.
zephyrbell
Mayan*
Radiohen
Gracias OP, los mexicanos de Imgur te agradecemos ????
WildYucatanMan
pos gracias
EsePelana
Muchas gracias por el esfuerzo de compartir un poco más de nuestra cultura!
popociano
Popol vuh?
WildYucatanMan
yes
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Igotyouyeah
I went to Tikal back in 2004. AMAZING. I still need to develop the photos I took.
lidiostyle
Im Chiapas! i live near zona arqueológica de Izapa!
persnickity89
As a lover of history, thank you for posting! This just made my morning.
meercatme
Very interesting, do you have sauce for more reading?
WildYucatanMan
Look at my other top post about an ancient battle
NobodyThoughtThisWouldBeAThing
Dotdotdotdotdotdotdotdot!
GeneralMiura
Awesome! You're also covering Olmec society? I saw the fantastic Olmec heads in the Museum of anthropology in Xalapa a decade ago
WildYucatanMan
in a later post, sure
SLTWWS
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kyslmao
That will be amayasing!
ThrillMurray
Kukulkan and the jaguar king!
theImigurer
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Jaykeup
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slumshoes
Tulio and Miguel! Mighty and powerful Gods!
thatscraigz
@OP thoughts on Graham Hancock?
Cainstrodamus
He has some interesting theories. OP didn't mention any evidence as to when the temple of the sun was build, only that the teo's lived there
WildYucatanMan
Yeah, he is full of IT
thatscraigz
Anything specifically you don't like though? :) super curious. I'm pretty new the scene ;)
WildYucatanMan
He is a quack, he makes it up as he goes along
thatscraigz
really?!? gahh, see everything I've heard/read from him is super consistent though! He's almost been saying the same thing for 15 years >
FriskyDing0
When you make this next post, please help explain the whole deal with "1 and 7 Hunapu", "Seven Macaw" and Mayan naming practices.
Verbodentoegang
I have seem many docu's on machu pichu, how come there are two building styles present. Can you highlight some more on that ?
WildYucatanMan
the Inca never built Pyramids, not sure why though
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80percentlegs
Wonderful post! I find these cultures fascinating. Can you discuss mesoamerican plant domestication and its impact after Euro contact?
WildYucatanMan
Elaborate
80percentlegs
Some crops thought of as staples of European countries (the tomato for Italy, the potato for Ireland and others) originated in mesoamerica
WildYucatanMan
Oh yeah, of course
80percentlegs
My sister was explaining it to me recently and I was surprised, I just took for granted that these vegetables were always eaten in Europe...
SchrodingerMil
I've learned a shit ton about Aztec from Smite. This'll be fun.
popociano
Mayan*, in smite are mayan gods (demigods some, and some heroes)
SchrodingerMil
It's been like 7 months I remembered they were one of the two.
GuiltlessBoner
Guess he didn't learn much lol
appaismyspiritanimal
I was able to study abroad in Mérida, Mexico a few years ago. We got to visit a few of these places and learn all about the Maya people. 1/
appaismyspiritanimal
2/ but you touched one a few things we didn't cover/weren't able to go in depth about. Thanks for the post, OP!
WildYucatanMan
Awesome, Merida is a lot of fun
em2holden
My professors in Aztec studies state this is inaccurate. They are currently working at this site. I'm just wondering where your facts r from
em2holden
This was about the pyramid of the sun
WildYucatanMan
Which part? When the Volcano exploded and caused them to abandon the city? That is the most recent theory
WildYucatanMan
Here is the source : http://www.pbs.org/wnet/secrets/teotihuacans-lost-kings-full-episode/3052/
WildYucatanMan
Do get back to me, I want to know what part he says is incorrect? I'm guessing its the Volcanic Eruption?
ringadingdingbaby
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/largest-mayan-tomb-discovered-belize-may-hold-remains-local-ruler-1573591 I worked on the site the previous year.
WildYucatanMan
You need to share it on here and make a post plz. I wanna know more. Are you in Maya studies from NAU?
ringadingdingbaby
I study Archaeology at the University of Edinburgh, but did fieldwork last year in Belize. If I was to send you my Facebook details (1)
ringadingdingbaby
Would you be ok with adding me? It is hard to explain things with such limited character numbers
AnykindofTacos
Have you read Graham Hancock's books?
WildYucatanMan
isn't that the quack?
oftenanidiot
As a middle school history teacher, I look foward to your next post.
WildYucatanMan
I'll make sure to add more citations so it can be used as a resource ;)
WildYucatanMan
Thanks
pickleticklee
Hey future me - come check out more Maya post from this guy
Barackrifle
You mention that the Maya temple has 365 steps; one for everyday of the year. So did they have the Julian calendar across the ocean?
WildYucatanMan
The Maya were more than intelligent enough to figure it out on there own thankyouvermuch
gnostalgia
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skydivingbigfoot
Fucking dot
ravi893
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Astaadi
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MattCantwell
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apageofthedarkhold
But with enthusiasm!
Kalid19
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WallpaperProblems
Exactly
allofthesefregginusernamesaretaken
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GoGoGadgetFoot
Thanks for your hard work @OP. I'm of Pipil descent, and I love seeing educational posts like these.
ifartedwhilewatchingyourdog
I'm gonna go ahead and dot all your posts like this. It's really cool.
TheGingerBatman
Agreed. Dot
anotherangrycephalopod
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SunriseSwivel
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Plastefuchs
How do you feel in regards to the Codex and other writings sitting in Germany? I live in Dresden and have seen the Codex myself in the SLUB.
Plastefuchs
At that point I didn't consider the possibility that I might be looking at an artifact that has not many peers form the same time and place.
Plastefuchs
It has been some time since I have seen it though, so I cannot speak to the reasons for keeping it here in Dresden as explained by the SLUB.
Plastefuchs
SLUB = Sächsische Landes- und Universitätsbibliothek = Saxon State and University Library Dresden
ThePastmaster
Sounds awesome. Re: Ancient Aliens though, I feel insulted as a human being that we attribute super natural powers aiding our ancestors 1/2
ThePastmaster
construction efforts. >:/ 2/2
onlyhalfghost
Ancient Aliens logic: "I don't understand construction engineering, so neither did the ancients. Aliens had to have done it."
ThePastmaster
As much fun as he is to watch, he's a huge crackpot.
onlyhalfghost
it's worse when you know someone in real life who thinks modern technology is aliens.
tinyoddsquid
hear hear
DeckhandAdmiral
You should talk about the sites in Georia, USA that are being linked to the Maya. And how the Creek have oral histories of being part Maya.
WildYucatanMan
Looked into it. Evidence is flimsy at best it seems. Idea looks like a rip off of this movie https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kings_of_the_Sun
WildYucatanMan
Literally have never heard of that, but would like a link plz
DeckhandAdmiral
Sure. https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/20140530122546-85722916-the-mayas-in-georgia-thing-what-you-were-never-told
DeckhandAdmiral
in todays world of academia and archeology in the western world you run into governments stone walling and spreading anti-truths.
DeckhandAdmiral
I first learned of it in my South Eastern Indians history class at Auburn in 2012 and even then it was just "stories". Pretty wild that /2
RinnelSpinel
Uneducated question, does that mean Quetzlcoatl?
WildYucatanMan
Good question. Yes and no. The Aztecs borrowed a lot from the Maya just like the Romans did to the Greeks.
WildYucatanMan
The Aztecs called him Quetzlcoatl where as the Maya called him Kukulkan, but it was the same god, which the Teotihuacanos also worshipped
walkerswolverines
Which could've been an ancient alien.
WildYucatanMan
But although he was the most prominent God of the three civilizations, little is known about him. What I will go into detail is about
WildYucatanMan
one of the surviving books known as the "Maya Bible" called the Popul Vuh, its the Maya story of creation
WildYucatanMan
too complex to sum up here, but the TL;DR version is that in Mexico the Natives Americans are treated lightyears better than in USA today
TotallyNotBorisTheSovietSpy
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ApplesdaKitty
how much is that in parsecs?
MarcoStaccato
Really? are you mexican? The only native americans mexicans respect are the dead ones (common saying here) I'm mexican.
SpaceXilonen
Que tu no las respetes es distinto. Muchos de nosotros admiramos y nos sentimos orgullosos de nuestros orígenes.
Raider60
Exactamente. No porque vez alguna gente los trata mal, significa que toda la nacion tiene los mismos sentimientos.
TheOtherTruth
My friends who are natives from Guatemala say they were treated horribly back "home".
WildYucatanMan
I can only speak on Mexico's behalf, not Guatemala's. I know the Civil War meant the death of a lot of people
WallpaperProblems
They killed an entire Etnic! (The Army did), there's like 600 Xincas left in the country really sad that there wasn't a Nuremberg
tacoforest
Delta Oscar Tango. Hit me up with the finished product id love to see it @WildYucatanMan
yesyourworshipfulness
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Raider60
You are 100% correct. It really sucks how the Native Americans in the U.S. get treated. Specially knowing that they are probably the
Raider60
Ancestors of all of the other cultures in Central and South America.
WildYucatanMan
Though there are problems, and not a perfect system, I will make a post about this specifically too,
MyUsernameIsntAvailable
Like the human sacrifices, will that be included?
Germankipp
I love you op and look forward to more. I love native American history
fulminatrix
This is a great series. I sometimes feel like not enough schools focus on pre-Euro history of the American civilizations, which is a shame.
Tuoni
You mean you want to actually teach us stuff ?
kerryxpaige
I spent last summer in Yaxhachen (very small pueblo) learning about the mayans and their culture and even learned to speak some!
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justino37
Thank you, OP. I recently went to the Cahokia Mounds in Illinois and was amazed at what they had accomplished during their time.
Sauroctonus
I'd love to know more about the Mississippians, their monuments weren't too different to those of their southern neighbours in some ways.
justino37
Check out Cahokia (like 10 mins from St Louis). Their museum/visitor center is pretty nice and Monk's Mound is huge.
TheGame364
Wait I'm confused, are the majority of Mexicans Mayans or Spanish? Or mixed blood?
DanOrtega
Vast majority mixed. Not only spanish; there is a genetic migration map, with italians, french, russians, chinese, japanese, germans...
Sakkura
Most are mixed, and genetically the overall mix is fairly evenly split between native (not just Mayan) and European.
WeAreTheNSA
http://weknowmemes.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/its-always-sunny-history-lesson.jpg
WildYucatanMan
BINGO