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Sauce: ukraine_defence
Dec 12, 2023 8:18 PM
EmotionallyCrippled
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Sauce: ukraine_defence
codswallower
Do US next!
Hexidimentional
Good, russia deserves this.
reformedxile
AtaSeaParks
How is this not bigger news???
cousteau
Some googling only showed me a few minor news outlets, plus AP and Reuters who seem to be claiming a cyber attack BY Russia TO Ukraine (maybe in retaliation). So no idea. Maybe it's not been independently confirmed yet.
PerpetuityPhoto
XD Oooooooh that's.... That's a big'n. If they hit the backups too, and Russia didn't airgap a backup, they're.... Hoo damn. XD
DeadWhiteMale
Don't they keep backups isolated from the internet? You'd think so.
PerpetuityPhoto
Bold of you to assume that Russia is that smart. Everyone smart enough to airgap a backup left the country.
georgedragonslayer
"Russian Tax System" - Said the Oxymoran(sic).
trippingthelightfantastic
PotatoPirateTheThird
I'm skeptical. I feel like it's much more likely it was some random hacker group or even just basic malware that got in due to incompetence. But they can't say that so they say "big bad enemy military did it". Just like when they accidentally explode their own civilians while shooting at ukraine then claim ukraine is shooting into russia
PlausibleLies
HUR: DURRR
JaromirAzarov
RandallKavanaugh
Likely won't affect Republicans as their Russia payments are likely provided in a non-taxable form to start with.
AboveAverageJoe2019
Now do us!
captainfakeypants
Hitting Putin where it really hurts - his income.
ElvisParsly
jalexj
Use your heads people... these right wing guys are fucks... VOTE VOTE VOTE.
DamnDongels
Do Canada next!
JimmyWalkerTexasRanger
igglebotato
I can hear this gif
neonkrypton
No tape backups ?
Incognito808
Just the tax? Seems like an inside job. I've had many encounters with russian cyber trolls over the year (nearly two), and they are now more infrequent. Most have outright quit social media posting when moscow started releasing the number of losses.
cousteau
I'd say this is kinda messed up to do, but then I remembered Russia does this sort of thing with HOSPITALS
TheGreatGergsy
So...Fight Club, without blowing up buildings?
discodemo
They will get to that soon
GoldensForDayz
So when is this going to be done for student loans and Healthcare debt?
BlindGardener
When a nation with better hackers than the USA goes to war with the USA, and then only if they can cause significant damage to the usa by doing it,
AnonymousSourceOfGenitals
IIRC most of that stuff is airgapped, that is on computers not connected to the internet. And Russia not doing that for something like their tax database makes this partially their fault really
GoldensForDayz
It's not airgapped if it's tied to payment processors, user access, credit reporting agencies, etc. Off site backups are possible, but restrictive whitelisted firewall policies could allow for automated offsite backups and limit risks of data exfiltration. Most of these databases run on old versions because of downtime and incompatibilities. Also I'm curious if recent sanctions effect licensing for Splunk and Defender SIEM platforms.
wantedTwo
Man I hope they release the data. I wonder who could possibly be listed in there…
Kjasi
wouldn't that defeat the purpose of destroying the existing copy and all the backups?
DonL9
You mean like US senators and Congress members, or, like, Russians?
jinbee
You don't know how stuff works in Russia do you? Only the povvos would be in that database.
dwolvin
I feel all of the actually rich people would be missing from the database.
wadenelson
Taxes are for the little people. Leona Helmsley.
NZSheeps
I'm sure they all pay taxes like the good citizens they are ...
dwolvin
Thank you, that's the funniest thing I've read today.
TheRedBaron8
mygodhasabiggerdick
Should have drained some Oligarch's accounts into Ukraine's coffers. Paying for it's own demise and whatnot.
plushmousy
how do we get that to happen in the states?
whatdidyoureallyexpect
#1 Did it mention how much the Trumps and McConnel owe for what they’ve been paid?
SirenBrick
McConnel gets a mere $5k a month and at least 1 trip a year, from Russia apparently, and he is VERY protective of that cash (and is also one of the lowest paid as well, but the most consistent recipient)
whatdidyoureallyexpect
$5000 here, $5000 there and pretty soon you’re talking real money.
whatdidyoureallyexpect
$5000 here, $5000 there and pretty soon you’re talking real money.
whatdidyoureallyexpect
$5000 here, $5000 there and pretty soon you’re talking real money.
DrewThe3DPrinterGuy
I have a feeling if the average citizen knew how much digital warfare was being waged around them continuously, 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, it would make their heads spin.
bassbastard
Part of my job dealing with public safety related IOT and communication. It is mind blowing.
Radix865
To quote K from MIB: "and the only way these people can get on with their happy lives is that they DO NOT KNOW ABOUT IT!"
sargentrock
I think the average citizen would think "huh....I can still play cat videos, though, right?"
georgedragonslayer
Nah. That would never happen.
suwessi
A small fraction of true amount:
https://cybermap.kaspersky.com/
Scahrossar
Thats a bit misleading. You won't see much APTs there, but a wholew lot of crappy malware traffic.
Thunderchunks
We've been in world war 3 since once at least Stuxnet, but realistically earlier. It's just most of the battles have been online until recently.
sillyDad
Agreed. Stuxnet was aimed specifically to destroy hardware (in this case Irans Uranium centrifuges they used to make weapons grade material) and it was the first time the public saw this happening.
Scahrossar
Stuxnet was fun but, while far more recent, NotPetya will probably ring more bells for most people as it had far more tangible impact.
kinarism
I hadn't heard of this. So in 2017, during Trump's term in office, Russians breached the NSA and used the tech they gained to attack Ukraine's infrastructure? Nothing fishy there.
Scahrossar
Different groups. Shadow Brokers stole a lot of NSA tools and leaked them online,. I also don't believe they've been pegged as state actors. One of those exploits was used in NotPetya by (most likely) russian state actors. Besides that, Trump had nothing to do with it. He was just the idiot in office at the time.
Scahrossar
Did a bit of digging, my memory is fading in old age, and they most likely stole the tools in 2016, only releasing the password publicly in 2017.
imshapedlikeaj
There is a really good book on this called countdown to zero day
Thunderchunks
Sure, but that's not what I was trying to do, I was pinning the moment where I feel it first became obvious that there was a full fledged world war happening online. Not remind people that there are state-sanctioned cyber attacks, but to establish where I believe it was clear what has been going on out of sight (and in many cases fairly intangibly).
Scahrossar
I got that, I added my bit because NotPetya made it real for "common" people and where it tangibly affected the real world in a significant way, even if it was probably a (partial) accident.
Scahrossar
But yes, Stuxnet was probably (one of) the first succesfull cyberattacks with clear nation state actors. At least that we know about (which was also an accident :p )