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https://nationalpost.com/news/chinese-government-owned-firm-wins-6-8m-contract-to-supply-security-equipment-to-canada-embassies#:~:text=The%20government%20of%20Canada%20has,high%20commissions%20around%20the%20globe.
didja20
That's hilarious. But it can't possibly be true. No one in the Canadian government is that stupid.
Billyjimjoejohngerryjosephgeorgejames
Yuck
SenorMacaroni
What could possibly go wrong
DocHdaCook
Starhaven350
That's a bad idea
sotronics
Stupidity
CalvinMcFly
You have to admit China is all in on their worls domination and doing a heck of a job! But, fuck China.
Blackfinity
Canadian here: Fuck whomever in government approved this.
Ismellofhockey
They probably didn't have a choice. It's probably the law that government contracts have to go to the lowest bidder. Canada needs to pass...
Ismellofhockey
a law like the Trump admin is thinking of passing, barring companies that don't meet particular criteria from receiving government contracts
etherbunny41
Interesting. Also unfortunate. Sucks what "fair" laws can do when abused.
BananaShip
I hear they have good equipment too
PhoneSignUpIsCancer
That was just a very unfortunate case of auto-translation, it was supposed to say "Discreet Delivery Van".
Khatapillah
Flowers By Irene
HogFuneral
By god! China is Acme Corp.
drenix
I have more faith in Acme products not failing than chinese, tbh
AMRIV
See the trick is that it's actually an https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Execution_van
ScottaHemi
Canada's aboat to have a bad time eh?
ScroopyNoopers0
As a Canadian, what the fuck.
Siris22
Had a good morning eating waffles with syrup and I take a look at this travesty.
DougDingo
Ok, in light of all the stuff going on between canada and china right now, who the fuck thought this was a good idea?
kmikl
The purchase is under review.
mirrelle
Ah yes, definitely the government you want meddling with security
Hypnoticcow
Can we get it together and pay the extra cost to have goods made by non slave labor?
RMaybeth
Pfft, whatsa big deal - what could go wrong?
sinergy
Canada failed this one
andywei420
Like, what could go wrong?
Verociity
Wait, so Huawei is banned by the west because of possible CCP ties, yet this is fine?
buttcrackula
How in the hell did this happen?!
ironeAwardPoster
Doesn't every company in China with 50 or more employees legally have to have a CCP Representative, and even CCP branches?
JeffGodofBiscuits
Not to mention they need to have access to every file in an IT environment. Wife worked for a law firm that opened up a Shanghai branch
JeffGodofBiscuits
They actually had an entire separate infrastructure built, that could not reach any of the existing clients and their patent documents
Ghostlogicz
It’s how most companies do it , China then rest of world
KingKelloggTheWaffleHaggler
Oh man, please don't...
JeffGodofBiscuits
it's because they are soo good at system security! They know all the tricks about how to get into a system
Trimule
Apparently there is an actual law that requires any company to provide ANY information the security services deem "important to aid CCP '"
DocHdaCook
Especially the immune system
RampantRabbid
In this day and age all countries should have their own companies that deal with this stuff. Personally the last country on earth you /
RampantRabbid
Should be dealing with is a communist one. Be friendly but never that friendly. 2 meters apart people. Stop kissing china and russia asshoe.
slotheroll
ScottaHemi
alternatively
ScottaHemi
and kidneys, and eyes, and hair for some reason...
DocHdaCook
LMAO holy fuck that is terrific and terrifying
Lipwigzer
BahamutBBob
DarthGuacamole
Free Hong Kong
ramshackleackle
Why? Did we finish freeing Palestine already?
DarthGuacamole
All are important.
mcpoopymcpoopypants69
Revolution now
UpgradeCookie93
Why the fuck does the rest of the world keep fucking Chinas asshole?!
SyrusDrake
They make our cheap shit.
yhellothargoodsir
Cheap labor and loads and loads of money to be made
barnwolf
And ease of doing some types of business I bet. Some things are tough to do, like if it effects the environment or inconveniences people.
CptRobotNinja
Hey if you need human rights violated on a massive scale China is there for you
barnwolf
Was thinking of how it's almost impossible to build high speed rail in the US because of eminent domain law. While in China they just do it.
RocketNewman
NotAPervert
Well us “enlightened” countries “outlawed slavery” so we have to pay someone else to do it for us so we pay less than having jobs at home
Frostbreaker1
China buys our beef, pork, oil and timber. A lot of it. Really hard to turn your nose up at that money. It's terrible of course...
mirrelle
Honestly be nice if trading would increase between other countries bc of all this. China is already restricting australia a bit
diperdi
Let me rephrase..... Why does the rest of the world let China keep fucking their assholes?
LetMeSeeMyKids
The contract is for x-ray machines. Are we worried China is going to be spying on what we are hiding in our insides?
SteveMcCroskey
Thx for this
LetMeSeeMyKids
I think we can trust the installers that when the notification comes up and asks if the x-ray machine can have permissions for the mic,
LetMeSeeMyKids
Camera, photos, videos, contact list.. that the contractor says no. Or atleast 'no, just this once'
BigTex1
China wants X-ray dick pics. You heard it here first.
LetMeSeeMyKids
All they have to do is ask
DocHdaCook
No. No I didn't. Many of us didn't.
VirtualDeej
It's the chipset in X-ray machines. Backdoors in chipsets allow access to services like telnet to deliver payloads or remote access.
Tarmaccian
...Only if it's given that access. "Don't give stupid access" is information security lesson number 3...
VirtualDeej
This is a very widespread problem affecting not just x-ray machines but servers, surveillance cameras, wifi points, etc
LetMeSeeMyKids
The x-ray machines would need to be connected to the network. You would think the government would have seperate servers to prevent hacks
DougDingo
fun fact: USB is a networking protocol. yes, there are attacks that takeover computers by throwing bad data at their USB ports (eg BadUSB)
Rapt0rman
Ever heard of the casino that got hacked through a backdoor in their fish tank temperature gage? Doesn't matter what the actual product is.
LetMeSeeMyKids
Yes it does. The device needs to be connected to the network you are trying to hack. Input and outputs to/from a device from/to the
LetMeSeeMyKids
Servers are not invisible. Transfering information electronically is noticable and measureable.
LetMeSeeMyKids
And if the product doesn't matter, it's assumed all manufactured goods from China are spying on North America?
DougDingo
oh, fun fact from a computer eng grad: USB is technically a networking protocol! Also, for terrifying reading, look up the BadUSB attack
tlamstrike
Or the Embassy the Soviets bugged using a hunk of wood. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Thing_(listening_device)
LetMeSeeMyKids
Did it work?
Rapt0rman
For 7 years.
LetMeSeeMyKids
If even wood is susceptible to being used to spy on another nation, what is the point of the article? It should be assumed every product is
Happinessisawarmmeme
As a Canadian I can’t believe this.
CaptainMarkoRamius
Hi from USA. Welcome to the shit show, friend. Grab a seat. It's gonna be a while before it's over.
KawaiiKirei
Welcome to daily life as an American
CaldariBob
At least it's under review after the press coverage. The whole only-the-lowest-bidder requirement should also be under review.
totallynanners
I can. Your country is so focused on looking down your nose at the US you’re not focused on your own ridiculous policies.
royce101st
Calm down guys it's for x-rays, bullet proof glass, and doors.
JesusChristFightingHitlerMMAStyle
As a Canadian as well, guess were part of the shit storm now, but there's no way in hell I'm gonna sit back and turn into the US
smithosilver11
Nuts
NuclearBreakfast
You can't??? It's Trudeau and his merry band of half wits. Of course they gave China what they wanted.
royce101st
I can see you didn't read the article
LaughingInTheFaceOfDanger
Well I mean Harper did sell us out to Chinese corporations so we were kinda fucked already
Zeuski
It's almost like all politicians are corrupt assholes!
Blackfinity
Same. WTF? Are they trying to make "amends" with the Meng Wanzhou arrest/"Two Michaels" issue?
Happinessisawarmmeme
Maybe. I wish we had extradited that Wauwei CEO to the United States.
TheDogEnd
That's my guess. We're not releasing Wanzhou, but maybe if we give them some token victory we can negotiate their release. Maybe.
nolittleplans
Dear Canada. Are you morons. Jesus you can't even find a Lenovo laptop that doesn't have back doors.
Doumdidoum
Stand alone Xray machines are soooo dangerous!
waitwhat1234
Nope, not all of us. Just our black face prime minister.
leroy666
Hellooooooo! Alberta.
CrazyAceNinja
I have some lesbian friends who voted for him the first time but now regret it. They call him a corrupt liar (they are very liberal btw)
waitwhat1234
67% of voters didn't vote Liberal in the last election. It's not just Albertans whom dislike his politics and the corruption of the party.
waitwhat1234
Troll
newrecord
Just mad cause we have stronger beer
HUGHgReaction
Omg, I thought it was only Americans being retards (for not wearing masks) our gov is way more retarded
PaintedSlate
Details are way less effective as clickbait and not that sensational. Still, the ethical issue of anticompetitiveness here with the regime.
jacquescouscous
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/doctors-not-leaving-province-premier-jason-kenney-insists-despite-contrary-claims-in-legal-case-
jacquescouscous
Sometimes. Also, google link since link was too long.
DavidBrooker
Reading further, I think the bigger issues here are the political and diplomatic costs of letting state-owned enterprises compete for 1/2
DavidBrooker
public contracts, or non-democratic countries for that matter. The equipment itself, conveyor x-rays, are standalone without networking 2/3
DavidBrooker
transmission or storage capability, and intended only for guests of the missions, not staff or contractors or diplomats. 3/3
DavidBrooker
(In principle, diplomatic goods are not subject to any scrutiny whatsoever - see the concept of 'diplomatic pouch')
jtbill
Thanks for writing this out, i was about to myself. I find it interesting, but still incredibly worrying. 1/2
THEREDHO0D
How dare you give people an answer!
Ryebread91
Ok. I'm really trying to understand this but I've had a long day and my brain is fried. Can someone help?
Domehammer
Lenovo is only time I've ever had a computer just go "It is my time." and cook itself alive.
bernlack
School spent 30000 on buying new lenovo laptops, the ones that survived 2 years all naturally died within the same month.
DukeDarkwood
Wait, is Lenovo bad? I hadn't heard that one. Details?
Domehammer
Well I got Lenovo years ago. My computer broken so I needed a new one. It lasted a couple years before cooking itself. Only computer I 1/2
Domehammer
ever got that wouldn't shut itself off when overheating. It was okay for its price but the best thing was monitor that came with it. 2/2
jsprankles
I love my Lenovo
youcancallmesusanifitmakesyouhappy
Dell, hp, and asus have all done that for me
nolittleplans
Hal9000 voice "Collection complete...self destruct in 3.....2......"
barnwolf
Ah bummer, I really liked Lenovo's, at least compared to cheap dells.
SendMeDogsOrTits
The Thinkpad line of laptops aren't affected by that, they are also the only ones worth looking into.
BrokeMyFunnyBone
Don't think that's true
SendMeDogsOrTits
Well I doubt they still are since every big company uses them (Facebook, google and a few others)
BrokeMyFunnyBone
That's really not enough of a guarantee, especially since those companies you just mentioned have products that are also basically spyware
OriginalSyn
Canada is currently in a diplomatic brinkmanship with China it is trying to tread a line in order to save a couple hostages
OriginalSyn
That are being incarcerated on false charges because we have been following our extradition treaty with the USA.
NKato
A suggestion: Tell China that if they don't release the Canadian citizens, ALL trade will be terminated. If they refuse, start cutting.
defnotaplane
The trouble is America threatens Canada with treaty penalties for NOT extraditing, and is wilfully silent on Chinese retaliations
Taketheshot56
That is what the orange man wants.
NKato
If there's ONE thing China will react to, it's follow-through.
DaveTheScientist
That'd be way worse for us than it would be for China. That would be a terrible bluff, or a vastly overstated bargaining chip.
jscuster
China controls pretty much the entire worlds supplies of rare earths and medical precursors. No country can afford to stop all China trade.
KarateCanine
It's tricky. We sell virtually the same amount of stuff to china as they do to us. We have a 1.1% trade deficit with them. So, to sum up 1/